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rosenstein rosenstein's remarks were not said in gest. this was unveiled in the deposition of james baker before congress. that confirms the september report from the "new york times" where they reveal that rod rosenstein had a plot to surveil his boss donald trump before we heard of a special counsel or robert mueller. it's the deputy fbi director mccabe, his attorney lisa page, they both witnessed and chronicled rod rosenstein talking about wearinga wire against the president. this is beyond troubling. we know all of rod rosenstein's other conflicks. -- conflicts. signed the final fisa warrant. we have one more piece to a disturbing puzzle. it's clear that members of our bureaucracy were trying to destroy both candidate and president trump in what they called their media leak strategy. all of this means hillary is bought and paid for phoney russian dossier that was never corroborated, used to get fisa warrants, all of these lies to influence the american people before the 2016 election and used to commit a fraud on fisa board judges to

rosenstein denies that report. here is the president this morning. >> president trump: on the plane -- i actually have a good relationship, other than there has been no collusion, folks. no collusion. no, i don't. i didn't know rod before. but i have gotten to know him, and i get along very well with him. b5 rosenstein expected meet with white house republicans on thursday. here's house committee devin nunes with his questions. >> i think it all comes down to whether or not he was willing to wear a wire or not. if he was willing to wear a wire and secretly record the president, maria, someplace of this country has never been before, i don't know if any time in the history of this country where you had people at the top levels of government conspiring to secretly record a president so that you can trap the president into doing -- into being able to go after the 25th amendment to remove the president. >> kennedy: 's meeting also comes after former tough fbi official davis baker told investigators last week that a dnc

it is unclear how much longer rod rosenstein will be in office. we had that back and forth a couple of weeks ago. recklessly everyone was reporting that rod rosenstein was on his way to the white house to potentially be fired by the president. the president has made clear on prior occasions he doesn't like the fact that special counsel bob mueller was installed at the hands of rod rosenstein, and on other occasions he has made clear he doesn't like the fact his attorney general has recused himself. he said just recently that he's not thrilled with his attorney general's performance, so it is unclear what is going on. sometimes people go to the media because they want to stand up for their own, you know, conduct and the things that they have dedicated themselves to. sometimes they want to speak to an audience of one, that audience of one being donald trump. what i can say is, you know, i think it is good that he issued that message, rod rosenstein issued that message. it is a good, strong statement that he has not wavered from the thing that he did

director mccabe and rosenstein with rosenstein and mccabe arguing over who should recuse themselves from the russia case. our source says mccabe believed rosenstein had a conflict because he wrote the memo used by the administration to justify president trump's firing of f.b.i. director james comey in may of 2017. mccabe believed rosenstein could be called as a witness to any obstruction case against mr. trump. rosenstein countered that mccabe acted unethically taking money from the hillary clinton allies to finance his wife virginia's state senate race in 2015 and mccabe played central role in the f.b.i. 2016 investigation of hillary clinton e-mails and the mishandling of classified information. all of this matters, lou, because of the connection to a former top f.b.i. lawyer james a. baker who testified behind closed doors last week. baker said mccabe told him rosenstein's comments about secretly recording the president and removing him from office were serious. president's personal attorney confirmed to fox today that earlier this week rosenstein assured the president the comments wer

rosenstein denies it. before taking off, the president diffusing the drama saying he has no plans to fire him and it will be a friendly chat. >> we will be talking on the plane. i have a good relationship other than this has been no collusion. i didn't know rod before, but i got to know him and i got along well with him. >>. >> "crime & justice" reporter is at the event site in orlando. explain, if you can, this cumbaya. >> it's certainly a surprise. no one expected for rode rosenstein to accompany the president aboard air force one to this event. those surprising remarks this morning from the president. all along, we have been told that the president and rod rosenstein do have a good relationship and they were communicating and that the "new york times" article of course concerned the president, but his lawyers, the president's lawyers and all of his attorneys who have been working on the russia investigation have been urging him not to fire rod rosenstein and it seems with this morning's announcement the

you look at rosenstein. there's some fragile sense of not knowing how long these pictures are going to be hanging on the wall and stuff is going to be on his desk. we talk about mattis as a guardrail. we talk about guardrails around our national security. it's clear from the saudi situation they're not really holding. what do you make of the fact the guard rails around the justice department arguably the most important ones are, at this moment, while there's so much other stuff in the system while we're focused on the kavanaugh fallout, khashoggi and the midterms, they seem to be crumbling. >> i tend not to look at the guardrails as individual, as people. i look at them as institutions. what we've seen is this president assaulting these institutions from the day he took the oath of office. he attacks the rule of law. he assaults the justice department. he assaults the individuals in the justice department. he assaults the intelligence community. all of it, though, all of it is an assault on objective truth.

rosenstein came on the scene. it's very interesting that rosenstein did it recuse himself and mccabe didn't. they both stayed on and now we have this mess. it's paralyzing our government. >> lou: as catherine just reported, the smear merchant fusion gps is glenn simpson refusing to testify and will take the fifth amendment. where does this leave in your judgment, glenn simpson? >> clearly he fears legal jeopardy from lies that he is told. thus the correct implication. that's troubling. ultimately, unless the doj pursues him for perjury, nothing is going to happen as a result for refusing to testify in congress. rod rosenstein is effectively in charge of that. i think red and impassive people seem to be waiting out the clack in judiciary hoping the democrats take control. >> lou: they are trying to run out the clock, they've done pretty well. they have the special counsel going that's on his face illegitimate. it is conflicted. it is without question antithetical to the interest of the president in this governments

deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. remember, the same rod rosenstein "the new york times" had been reporting that had discussed secretly reporting the president after his firing of then-fbi director james comey back in 2017, and what the status of his employment status has been a huge question. now, he's heading down with the president to florida. let me get to the white house now. cnn's abby phillip is there. it seems like are we at a point where we can say the president is saying let bygones be bygones? >> it does seem like president trump is not talking like a man who is preparing to fire someone today. in fact, inviting him onto air force one and saying it is going to be very nice to have him there, as he goes down to florida for this police convention. now, the president, i was struck by how much he emphasized the good relationship he had with rosenstein. he noted that he didn't really know him all that well up until recently. but he said repeatedly, we have a very good relationship. he didn't answer questions abo

rod rosenstein? he signed the sba to warrant on carter page. he actually wrote the letter to give to the present, so that james comey would be fired. he laid it all out. this guy is in the middle of everything, and somebody needs to learn the truth because he is still the deputy attorney general of the united states. >> sean: by the way, to answer serious question, who is investigating the investigators, all of us have been from the beginning. starting with both of you, to be honest. lead to the number one "new york times" best seller, but this sounds like a soft coup. revengeof taken out on the president. you have two people that both reported the very same thing here, john, about what rod rosenstein instead at the time. that is mccabe. he is under criminal investigation. thinks that hillary should win 100000000-0. >> as i was coming over to the show, i bumped into an old fbi friend of mine. he said i am starting to think that if you need to rebrand itself. maybe we should call ourselves the federal

i believe rod rosenstein lied to congress. you know what, it is not going to be mueller that does the investigation, to the take a special counsel to investigate rod rosenstein. whether we do subpoena him, and let's face it he has been obstructing the investigation into what went on for a long, long time. but he and mueller, a number of them were involved in the previous russia investigation. mueller needs to be investigating himself and rod rosenstein. that does not work out so well. we need someone else to look into them. what can we do? we should hold people in contempt for reducing to reduce the things that we've been asking for, and much more than patient. as i found out when i was a felony jyo judge, you put a lawr in jail for one day in contempt of court the rest come along nicely after that. lou: improves their attitude? >> a real good attitude adjustment. that is what congress needs to do. or we'll have games played. i know, jim jordan has talked about that, they are playing a game of hoping to get beyond the election

rosenstein then released a statement saying -- president trump said he had no plans to fire rosenstein after talking with him yesterday about 45 minutes. aboard air force one. the president telling reporters this afternoon that he will intently monitor his deposition, that is rosenstein's deposition thursday before the house judiciary committee. >> well, i guess he's going before congress. we had a very good talk yesterday, and he's going before congress. we'll see how it all works out. in the meantime, as you know, senator richard burr came out recently and said there was no collusion. he saw no collusion, after a year and a half, and devin nunes, as you know, very smart people. he came out. there's no collusion, there is no collusion. that's all i care about. lou: joining me one of the reporters leading the coverage of this important story. investigative reporter, fox business contributor sarah carter joining us. sarah, good to have you with us. >> great to be with you, lou. thank you. lou: great to have you. it is an extraordinary development that the former fbi, general counsel rel

rosenstein denies all of that. a chief white house correspondent john roberts' life are as of the white house with more. >> good afternoon to you, this is the first time the president and the deputy attorney general had an opportunity to spend some quality time together since all of this came out. don't forget, they were supposed to meet a couple of thursdays ago but in the second kavanaugh hearing got scheduled so the president pushed back the rosenstein meeting. 30 minutes aboard air force one as a good amount of time for the two to spend together when the president departed the plane in orlando, he was asked by the pool as he was working a rope line how their meeting and how the conversation went. he said it was great. before leaving when asked straight out by my colleague in bc if he plans to fire rosenstein, president trump said no and seemed to indicate that rosenstein's job is safe at least for now. listen here. >> i'm traveling with rod. i didn't know about before. but i've gotten to know him and i get alon

rosenstein steps down. he should do so immediately, in doing that, i think it would serve the country well, this president well. and it is time we evenly get to truth of the matter. lou: investigative journalist sarah carter will join me, and talk about latest developments. president trump on his way to moma mo -- montana. >> we're doing a rally for matt rosen dale, a fantastic man. he is doing well, we will be talking tough things about senator tester who has been a disaster. and a disaster for montana. lou: republican strategist ed rollins with me, assess the states when what appears to be likely outcome of midterm elections. >> our top story, caravan of 4,central american4-- 4,000 central americans. the leading edge of the caravan it guatemala, 1 over the border they face a journey over 1200 miles to reach brownsville, texas. the closest point to where they are right now, today mexican government dispatched additional police to the border, and warned caravan that mexico will not permit them to enter mexi

. >> harry, somebody seems irked by rod rosenstein and he said in calling for rod rosenstein, he's managed to find time for a "wall street journal" interview instead of coming before congress. he did sit down with the journal's justice department reporter and among other things he said i committed i would ensure the investigation was appropriate and independent and reached the right result, whatever it may be. i believe i have been faithful to that. i want to get your read of that interview. what did we learn about rod rosenstein's position within the justice department, within the administration, his attitude toward bob mueller's investigation? >> well, it's always what it's been. see h he sees mueller as the professional he is and will protect him as long as he can. i agree with joyce and there's one other thing. october 24th. all of this is politics and the republican the want to be in a position to slap rosenstein around when the transcript comes out but they are themselves weary of the kind of circus that attended some other people's testimony. i think they want to be able to get the

deputy attorney general rosenstein said it was sarcastic. the person who it was aimed, former fbi agent now fired for lying to fbi invey in washingto, for perjury andrew mccabe said it was serious. james baker, general councils of the fbi who was just told the house committee he believed rosenstein statement was serious was not in the room when it was said. his source is probably andrew mccabe. what did he say? we don't know what he said but congressman meadows said he, baker, contradicted what rosenstein has said under oath. lying to a congressional committee as a basis for firing, that's where we are. >> harris: those three unnamed people, we don't know if they are among the witnesses they were called. >> that is correct, this has been very frustrating and i'm a critic of the house of representatives, government in secrecy. instead of hearing the actual questions and answers, we will hear a republican spend by congressman meadows and a democratic spin. >> harris: if somebody can corroborate that the attorney general said this, and that it

question why rosenstein did not go to the hill to tell his side of the story. if the wire comment amounted to a joke. >> i was surprised at that, i would think he would. he mentioned certain things to me that, you know, are very positive about that event and i would imagine you'd want to put that down and frankly, whether you are under oath or not shouldn't matter but he mentioned things to me i would think would be fine for him to testify. so i'm a little surprised that rod wouldn't do it. >> many aides say there remains an impasse over the terms, because they say the allegations rosenstein thought to undermine the president are so serious versus our briefing or a former meeting with no paper trail. republican committee member said chairman goodlatte needs to take a firmer stance because the department has also refused to comply with the committee subpoena to provide the memos documenting the may 2017 meeting where rosenstein made the wire comments. >> we need to subpoena him because they've been stonewalling and slow walking us for a year and a half now and q

what do you think could be accomplished by rosenstein testifying? i mean he will probably say he was joking as we have been told that he was saying like, what do you want me to wire the president? or could he be confronted with what others say is that he was being completely serious? >> if you believe what he's said so far, he's going to say i did not do that at all. these are erroneous reports. put that aside. what we have coming up this week is an opportunity for at least some members of congress some answers to their questions about what he has done, how the mueller investigation that he is overseeing is going forward. donald trump has been very critical of rod rosenstein at points, more lately. he had him on air force one. he's talked to him. they almost left that conversation feeling like they were friends. so i think what you are going to have is some congressmen trying to get some answers, both on the republican and the democratic side to where this is all headed especially with a few weeks before the election of course. eric: that's a very i

clearly wanting to talk, wanting to talk about rod rosenstein. wanting to talk about democrats and his newest supreme court justice, brett kavanaugh who will be sworn in in a ceremony later on tonight at the white house. that's where i'm headed now. in the meantime, let me give you over to craig melvin in new york. >> thank you. craig melvin here in new york. we'll start there with president trump speaking with reporters in front of the white house. he is on the way to the first of a week-long state of events. two big headlines out of that impromptu back and

rod rosenstein is the supervising -- he's the supervisor of the special prosecutor. so rod rosenstein is in effect the highest level working prosecutor in the justice department. and he's supervising the prosecutor who's investigating the president of the united states. so the justice department official has the ultimate control over the investigation of the president, met with the president today to try to convince him he was not part of a plot to use the 25th amendment to remove him from power and he didn't suggest the possibility of he himself wearing a wire to record either demented or criminal language by the president that could then be used to convince the vice president and the cabinet to remove the president from power. that is the strangest meeting that has ever occurred in the history of the united states of america between a president and a member of the justice department. here's what reporters got from the president about that meeting after air force one landed today. >> the press wants to know what did you talk about? well, we had a very good talk, i w

rosenstein backing out of the last one. joining us to discuss the key congressional hearings and the potential impact leading up to the mid-terms, sara carter, investigative reporter, fox business contributor. it's great to have you with us. >> great to be with you, lou. >> lou: baker, he is creating all sort of problems from rosenstein and not the least of which mark meadows the share of the freedom caucus for his resignation forth with. so whatever they have heard, meadows has had a bellyful. >> not only congressman meadows but a number of other congressional representatives there to hear baker's testimony feel the same way. it was explosive testimony again today. i know a little bit of what happened behind the closed doors. baker when asked over and over again the majority of the questions directed about rod rosenstein. the meeting with mccabe and lisa page, also an f.b.i. attorney who resigned since along with mccabe who was fired. they asked directly about rod rosenstein. when they asked him specifically how did you kn

for moments that matter. ♪ >> harris: a subpoena for rod rosenstein? that's what bob goodlatte says will happen if that deputy attorney general refuses to talk with congress about a "new york times" report claiming that he discussed secretly recording president trump and trying to get him kicked out of office. rosenstein was tentatively scheduled to meet with lawmakers last weekend failed to show up due to disagreements over the terms of the interview. >> it's essential that we talk to him, he knows that, he is not agreed to come for a transcribed interview on the record. he needs to agree to do that and if he does not agree to do that very soon, i will issue a subpoena for him to appear. >> harris: this comes as the house judiciary committee is also set to interview the fusion gps cofounder tomorrow. although he's expected to take the fifth, catherine herridge's live in washington with the latest. catch us up. >> thanks, harris, that afternoon. the russia investigation comes to a head with scheduled testimony from at least three witnesses and it remai

so do you know what rosenstein said? i'll give you a special counsel. and he appointed a more. >> i promise wrote job you get the last word. thank you very much. i know who gets the last word n matter what anybody says. >> up next, delusional dad. she says her disastrous dna tests will restore your faith i government. she hasn't made sense for days now. we'll have that and much more when we continue. stay with us, we will be joining us now to talk about that caravan in the latest announcement of the rosenstein classified interview of the judiciary and oversight committees has been postponed. that gates, member of the committee, congressman, great t have you with us. here we go again. what's up with this postponemen not coming from rosenstein, but from the four elders of that congress who is playing this game. >> with to you make of it. >> we make been a member of congress so much harder than it has to be all we have to do is tell the truth and hold open hearings and show the american people what's happening i'm so frustrated that we are now week after r

>> i assume it is rod rosenstein. remember, this is the guy, think about this -- this is the guy who that joe said he wanted to wear a wire to record the president. who allegedly talked of invoking the 25th amendment. he did that in front of subordinates. whether was joking or not we will find out. he did not do that classified setting so what is he want to classified setting to answer questions about those very things? only reason is because he doesn't want the american people to know what happened. this is the same guy who will not give us the anti-mccabe memos that we have subpoenaed. he will not rest the august 2 memo he wrote that altered the scope of the mueller investigation will not give us the jim baker or bruce ohr 302 is. this is the same guy. on the occasions that the term student quizzes postponed. let's get him under the right conditions as soon as possible. lou: congressman jim jordan, as always, good to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. lou: up next it appears anti-trump cnn believes a caravan

rosenstein. we asked for the mccabe memos. we asked to see the document mr rosinstein wrote that altered the scope. we asked for specific portions of the fisa and haven't been able to see that. we asked for 302s details what he said and we haven't seen that. jon, the guy put in charge of the u.s. attorney we haven't had one report in the last six months since been on-the-job. take all of that that's what flustrates me and you and the media and those people a cross the great country that want to know what happened. we'll talk about the implications. you just rattled off a few things that need to be public. will the president declassify these.co documents? >> let's hope so, i a few weeks ago the president said he would declassify them. he altered that and said he will run it by the inspector general. i think we'll get the information. we need to because again, we have to get answers from the important questions that go to the heart of the idea that it should be equal treatment under the law. it's suppose to be the rule of law. t

so do you know what rosenstein said? i'll give you a special counsel. and he appointed a more. >> i promise wrote job you get the last word. thank you very much. i know who gets the last word n matter what anybody says. >> up next, delusional dad. she says her disastrous dna tests will restore your faith i government. she hasn't made sense for days now. we'll have that and much more when we continue. stay with us, we will be hey guys. today we're here to talk about trucks. i love trucks. what the heck is that?! whoa! what truck brand comes from the family of the most dependable, longest-lasting full-size pickups on the road? i think it's the chevy. ford. is it ford? nope, it's not ford. i think it's ram. is it ram? not ram. that's a chevy! it's chevy! that's right. from the family of the most dependable, longest-lasting full-size pickups on the road. gorgeous. chevy hit it out of the ballpark with these. get mentally prepared... could listening to audible bring out your best? i want you to own it. go after that goal. the most inspiring stories, fitness,

and on the other side of the screen is rod rosenstein. a movie maker codn't have scripted this to be more extraordinary. e>> narrator: a nearly 30 indictment laid out the details of the russian hacking of the 2016 election in granular detail. >> "unit 74455 was located at 22 kirova street, khimki, moscow, a building..." >> "the conspirators activated x-ent's keylog and screenshot functions..." >> "and, between 4:19 p.m. and 4:56 p.m., searched rtain words and phrases..." it is, by far the most extensive evidence laid out public that almost makes it irrefutable that russia did do this. >> narrator: the indictments were the work of special counsel robert mueller. >> after a year of lng to trumsay, "this is all a witch hunt, this is all fake news, nothing is real, there was no collusion," here is mueller's answer. "oh, really? look at this. look what we have." >> when we confront foreign i interferenamerican elections, it's important for us to avoid thiing politically as republicans or democrats, and instead to think patrioticallyca as ame.

rosenstein, this report had a lot of sources behind it. they have talked to a number people about it. it's very curious and even if rod rosenstein according to his own words was just out there making this in just her saying it hypothetically to the extreme wall was the underlying conversation? if congress really wanted to get to the bottom of that they would invite the other six people are so into congress. kennedy: they also need those memos from andrew mccabe which essentially documents at least some of those conversations so i think it's smart for the president to do that. if you had to make a choice between firing rod rosenstein and jeff sessions who do you fire first? >> you swing first for the current attorney general who is there in name only the very worthless jeff sessions. he is never there. kennedy: he is recused from life. >> yes. he is there in name only. he is the most ineffective attorney general i've ever heard of in the history of this country. kennedy: he makes us long for drawnout -- that we didn't know was possible or a

-- rosenstein. he made a determination that the fbi director had lost his confidence. >> the message from the ite house is, "we fired comey because he botched the hillary clinton investigation, period." >> you know, to those who say, "why now, why fire james comey now?", what do you say? >> well, i would point them to the three letters that were received today, anderson: the letter by president donaet trump, ther by attorney general sessions, and really the underlying report by deputyl attorney genod rosenstein, who the fbi director reports to. >> all of the people spinning on behalf of the white house told ine press that the comey f was based on a memo from rod rosenstein, the deputy attorneya ge which had to do with comey's performance in the hillary clinton investigation. inwell, the press wasn't b that. >> most of this letter focuses on hillary clinton's emails. this is stuff that as a candidate, donald trump praised james comey for. >> this was sort of like a, a mind-bending situation, right? b