that is something we saw with hillary clinton. it was the person itself who got to decide what was personal and what was significant enough to let people see. so we'll see if republicans are aggressive in going after this. but this is why the old term elections have consequences is there. now you have a democratically controlled house of representatives that may be interested in pursuing this. >> democrats would have to make a decision whether or not this should rise to the top of their level of concern, given all the other things they have to be -- >> it's on the list. >> it's on the list, but i don't know where it is in terms of the list. it reveals that perhaps the critique of hillary clinton's e-mails wasn't perhaps principal, it was simply political. but one of the things that comes to view, at least for me, is that the underlying concern about hillary clinton was a concern about the clintons generally that they thought themselves above the law. and here we have ivanka trump and the trumps giving us evidence that they themsel

republicans didn't care about hillary clinton's e-mails. they wanted to persecute her, chanting lock her up, lock her up. it was good and red meat for the base. they didn't care. now you have ivanka doing the same thing and we're going to hear complete silence. she's a high ranking -- although his daughter, a high ranking official who has a security clearance. if we're going to have an fbi investigation for hillary clinton, we need an investigation for ivanka trump. i think the saying is what's good for the goose is good for the gander. i am tired of the hypocrisy. the american people are tired of the hypocrisy. we're going to chant lock her up and investigate her from here until the cows come home or we just say that we were hypocritical and hillary clinton's matter was not that serious. >> i hope nobody chants that. it showed a disrespect for the process. what about the hypocrisy here? >> to sort of ignore the obvious differences here is, i think, a little hypocritical. hillary clinton went out and established her own server in full knowl

clinton -- diametrically opposed to hillary clinton. senator manchin is a dishonest washington liberal because all you are seeing on the issues that matter is -- [crosstalk] moderator: let us get the rebuttal from senator manchin. mr. manchin: i have voted every time to support the border as far as securing the borders. i have voted every time and will continue to vote every time. the president has used every means possible to him. i have also said that we have to tone down the rhetoric. all of us, republicans and democrats. quit acting like you belong to some tribe, start acting like you belong to the american tribe. we work things out. as governor, we came together in our differences and we never blamed anybody. we address their problems and worked together for the betterment of west virginia. now we are seeing that it is ok to divide. instead of the united states, it is ominous the divided states. moderator: senator manchin, west virginia voters are deciding whether to amend the state constitution to nullify the west virginia supreme

then it was related to hillary clinton and comey. you know, he has had all sorts of complaints about officials at the justice department. chris wray had very -- a very narrow honeymoon before he started incurring trump's frustration. but, yes, one of his frustrations, he didn't think things were being done to go after his rival. >> so where does it stand now, that relationship between the president and the fbi director? >> look, as far as we know, you know, it remains unchanged. i don't think that it is anything like the level of toxicity with what we saw with jeff sessions. but remember, that was a very specific thing related to jeff sessions' recusal from the russia probe, which literally everybody denies had to happen, except the president. this is a different issue. nothing is ever going to top that. but look, people come in and out of donald trump's favor all of the time. but you come in and out of favor because you're not using the justice department as a way to settle personal political scores. >> we remember -- at least some

i don't think it rises to the level of hillary clinton. what ivanka did, i'm disappointed that she did it. i'm sure she feels very bad about having done that. it was careless. it was not a good thing to do. it doesn't rise to the level of what mrs. clinton did. >> the problem is, none of it -- >> should there be an investigation? >> do you think there should be an investigation or no? >> unless there's some evidence here that she was dealing with a lot of information as mrs. clinton was of a sensitive nature and that was part of the discussion, again, from what the articles i read is that the majority of the discussions were about scheduling and her children and family and things like that, which i know that's what hillary clinton said, but it didn't turn out to be that way. >> it turned out to be closer than that than what you were making of it. that's the problem. put it all out there. i don't care about what these guys are using -- if you get caught, you got a problem. if you get caught by somebody else, not the u.s. government, but the

clinton, even asking don mcgahn to have doj prosecute hillary clinton. again, this is according to a source familiar with this matter, and i'm told by this source that it became so common place that the president would ask about what doj was doing to prosecute hillary clinton or investigate various matters relating to clinton, including the clinton foundation, including her alleged ties to a russian nuclear agency that has not been proven, that whenever doj officials would come over, they knew they had to be prepared with a response to tell the president to appease him that doj was looking into the matter and according to "the new york times," it wasn't just hillary clinton, erin. the president also asked don mcgahn, then white house counsel, who has now left, for doj to prosecute james comey. to look into that. in fact, according to the "times," don mcgahn pushed back and even had a team of white house lawyers draw up a memo saying it would be improper and would cross the line and there would be severe consequences for the president to ask his doj to do

he made his bed with hillary clinton and that is better west virginia. >> hillary clinton is on the ballot. morrisey: every issue imaginable. we wouldn't have judges, we wouldn't have trump tax cuts, we wouldn't have open borders. >> moderator: we will get to that. patrick morrisey your home county is jefferson county, there's a huge fight over the rockwell plant that is under construction, supporters say the $150 million investment is a bit into the economy. opponent say the plant will hurt the environment and is not the type of developer and people want. you told me you would have an announcement prior to the election on your position. it is almost election day. please tell us now whether you as someone who has a home their support or oppose the plant. morrisey: i was clear on your show when i said we would keep looking to get to the bottom of it and we are still doing that because we still need to have meetings with the state department environmental protection. i will not use this issue to ride both sides of the fence like joe manchin does, that is what a dishonest washington liberal d

they're not just focused on hillary clinton and jim comey. they have a whole department to execute as well. this kind of distraction and this kind of unqualified individual at the helm, it is really an incredibly troubling situation. >> how do you think, phil mudd, officials at the justice department will react to all of this? >> believe it or not, wolf, it is 48 hours before thanksgiving day and i'm giving thanks. it is a rare moment, run the videotape, where i'm thankful. look, the president squeezed the former attorney general jeff sessions to step away from the sessions' recusal on russia. sessions stood up with a backbone and said, mr. president, no. the president pressed the former fbi director james comey before comey was fired, please step away from the flynn investigation, the investigation into the former national security adviser, general flynn. the former fbi director said no. the president is now apparently pressing this -- or has pressed this fbi director to begin some investigations, and this fbi director would appropriately sa

who supported hillary clinton for president. in his world, we would have amnesty, "are's and sanctuary cities. those are the things we have to talk about. that is why the president knows critical.is very moderator:. moderator: so do you support the language used by the president at times, which senator manchin says is inflammatory? mr. morrisey: nobody has an ideological twin that says the same words as everyone else i'm about this president right our we have to close borders. senator manchin is a dishonest washington liberal because all you are seeing on the issues that matter is -- [crosstalk] moderator: let us get the rebuttal from senator manchin. mr. manchin: i have voted every time to support the border as far as securing the borders. i have littered every time and will continue to vote every time. the president has used every means possible to him. i have also said that we have to tone down the rhetoric. all of us, republicans and democrats. quit acting like you belong to some tried and start acting like you belong to the

they weren't classified like hillary clinton. they weren't deleted like hillary clinton. there was no service in the basement like hillary clinton had. you're talking about a whole different -- you're talking about all fake news. so what ivanka did, it's all in the presidential records. >> the legal defense is also that ivanka said she didn't know the rules. meanwhile, donald trump in a story that has extra resonance tonight called for hillary clinton to be jailed for her e-mail use. >> here she is all screwed up with her e-mails. she doesn't know what the hell is going on. just look at how she's botched up her e-mails. >> lock her up, lock her up, lock her up! >> who would be so stupid to do what she did with her e-mails? the investigation is the biggest political scandal since watergate. i think she should be in jail for what she did with her e-mails. >> attorney richard painer, served as white house ethics chief under bush 43, also ran as a democrat for senate. back with us as well, mira tannen, clinton's campaign adviser, who lived through much of this. richard, your

., former head of -- >> hillary clinton fan excuse me, hillary clinton fan. >> who led the operations that took down saddam hussein and kaled osama bin laden says your sentiment is the greatest threat to democracy. >> he is a hillary clinton backer and an obama backer. and frankly -- >> he is a navy s.e.a.l. >> it would have been nice to get osama bin laden sooner than that. living in pakistan in what i guess i consider a nice mansion. i have seen nicer. >> that is the president this weekend on fox news. the apparent trigger the criticism of the president's attack on the press. we know the president is a counter puncher. keeping them honest, nothing the president hits back with in this case if that is what he is doing has the weight of truth behind it, just the opposite. his suggestion that admiral mccraven's operators were responsible for locating bin laden? not true. s.e.a.l. team six got orders. as for the claim that admiral mccraven is or was a hillary clinton backer? it is kind of the same thing as saying the current head of special operations is a trump backer. admiral mccraven

it just was a bogus issue about hillary clinton. and you know, i think they are acknowledging in a way that it's bogus for them too. >> what do you think the house oversight committee under democratic leadership might do with this issue? >> it's very possible they would call her in to testify or call others in to testify. i think to jeff's point he's right. i'm sure people do -- she's not the only one to do it. but at the end of the day one of the questions i have is why did it go on for so long? >> september 2017's a while. >> if it were february, the month after the inauguration, okay. but for eight months -- is it eight? eight, nine months. it's a lot. >> jeffrey toobin, anne milligram, thank you so much for being with us. appreciate it. may not be the last time we have this discussion. >>> next the white house backs down in its clash with cnn over holding the president accountable. so, let's talk about conference calls. there's always a certain amount of fumbling. a lot of times it doesn't work. we have problems. comcast busines

to hillary clinton in the first place. the fact that three years ago that this turned into a story within the media, within the elites in washington, d.c., they used it as an excuse to bludgeon hillary clinton and destroy her chances. that i argue was the original sin here. so the reaction is not, hey, let's go and treat ivanka with the same disregard and anger that we treated hillary clinton, let's go and apologize to what we did to hillary clinton three years ago. that's the more appropriate reaction. >> evan, you mentioned the hypocrisy of all of this, given how president trump just hammered hillary clinton during the campaign on her use of the e-mail server. is this more about hypocrisy or more about the substance that would be in these e-mails that ivanka trump wrote. >> we don't know what was in those e-mails. that's part of the problem. weep ne we need to find out what's there. i don't think weep shou should apologizing to hillary clinton. she set up a server in her basement to avoid having to disclose what she said

host: hillary clinton 2020. hillary this piece, clinton will run again. "get ready for hillary clinton 4.0. than 40 years in the making, this new version of hillary clinton when she runs for resident and 2020 will become full circle, back to the universal health care, true to her name, mrs. clinton will fight this out until the last dog dies. she will not let a little thing like two stunning defeats standing the way of her claims to the white house. what do you think that? let's get to your calls. mark is joining us from new york. we are hearing from democrats only right now. should she run? myler: thank you for taking call here on c-span. i do not think she should, especially after the way her and berniean schultz threw sanders out of running against drunk. -- trump. i was a registered republican for 30 years. i switched to a less bernie sanders, -- i switched to elect bernie sanders. host: thank you. we go to kay in florida. good morning. caller: [no audio] good morning. i am an old democrat, and i regret not having hillary's brainpower, but if she shou

they weren't classified like hillary clinton. they weren't deleted like hillary clinton. she wasn't doing anything to hide her e-mails. you're talking about a whole different -- you're talking about all fake news. so what ivanka did, it's all in the presidential records, everything is there. there was no deletion, no nothing. what it is is a false story. hillary clinton deleted 33,000 e-mails. she had a server in the basement. that's the real story. >> "the washington post" revealed last night when ivanka trump was questioned about her use of a personal e-mail account, she said she was not familiar with some details of the rule, according to people with knowledge of her reaction. however, she may have violated the white house preservation act. this comes as word that jared kushner also used a personal e-mail to conduct government work as well. quote, fewer than 1,000 that pertained to schedule and travel are involved." you heard the president there who made quite an issue there trying to say there is no parallel there at all between hillary clinton and ivanka. what do you

there was no deletion, unlike hillary clinton who deleted 33,000 emails. unlikely clinton who had a server in the basement. this with early on when she came in. these were not classified unlike hillary clinton's calls were classified and it is all fake news. >> pundits especially on msnbc and cnn were highly critical. >> may be ivanka trump was asleep during her father's entire campaign or never believes he would win because what is really incredible about the story isn't what sounds to me like something like a misdemeanor offense but her father having made this a central issue of the campaign for president. >> ivanka trump used the emails only for scheduling purposes. there was no classified material. the emails were preserved. it is a nonissue, partisan bickering. >> joining us from chicago is carly shimkus for fox news headlines on serious xm. it seems clear ivanka trump made a mistake in the press is being highly skeptical of her explanation. >> critics will call the president a hypocrite on this and when i saw the headline i was thinking out of all th

you know, a prince went to to e clinton foundation to try to get access to hillary clinton. when he couldn't get to her via the state department. you look at things like the international business times reporting that arms sales increased to going to foundation donors. how does none of this concern you? >> lisa, what do you and corey and i both know, all three of us now, is that if there was a wrongdoing by the clintons, it would have been headlined, front and center, all the way through every news outlet -- >> lisa: for the doj is looking into it. >> the investigation would have been the top front and center of his network and every other right-wing network you can imagine. you and i both know that. there is no there there. i think we are going to find this out. this is the last straw by the republicans will make their way through the majority and they try to raise an issue where there is no issue. >> lisa: corey, we don't know that he had, do we? the doj is looking into this. we -- >> they would have settled it by now. >> lisa: they are looking into it, antjuan. corey? >>

you know, a prince went to the clinton foundation to try to get access to hillary clinton. when he couldn't get to her via the state department. you look at things like the "international business times" reporting that arms sales increased to going to foundatioi donors. -- increased to clinton foundation donors.u? how does none of this concern you? >> lisa, what you and corey and i both know, a three of us now, is if there was an inch of wrongdoing by the clintons, it would have been headlined, front and center, all the way throughu every news outlet -- >> lisa: but the doj is looking into it. >> the investigation would have been the top front and center of his network and every other right-wing network you can imagine. o you and i both know that. is no there there. i think we are going to find this out. this is the last straw by the republicans will make their way through the majority and they try to raise an issue where there is no issue. >> lisa: corey, we don't know that yet, do we? the doj is looking into this. we -- >> they would have settled it by now. >> lisa: they

hillary clinton is the story. she destroyed her devices, she lied, she sent classified information on an unsecured server, which we know now based on intelligence was infiltrated by other state actors, other outside forces. china, russia, who knows who else got a hold of these emails, and 33,000 disappeared, and a few of them are trickling out here and there. judicial watch was able to get a hands on. this is a flat out joke. they keep perpetrating disinformation to the american people and they don't hold people accountable who actually broke the laws. >> sean: all right, thank you all. by the way, tara will be hosting on a 600 plus radio station, my radio show tomorrow. have fun. don't mess it up. just kidding. he's done it before. when we come back, lindsey graham weighs in on the crisis on our southern border. we will get his reaction on the situation with saudi arabia. to stay with us. a lot of breaking news. and there was a tie last week, it's my world, not there is straight ahead. presenting the internet! wh

bill clinton really has gotten a lot of criticism. so has hillary clinton, right? >> yeah. >> many people feel that they're out of touch and that he really hasn't atoned for his part in what happened with monica lewinsky. do you think they're out of touch with the mood in the country? >> well, you know, i do think that he has not responded well, effectively or, you know, even kind of as compassionately as people would like to hear him do it. he has, i think, not matched the authenticity that monica lewinsky has demonstrated in the last several months on this issue. you know, i'd be surprised if they can get through this entire tour without him having to address it more thoroughly. >> that was a very good answer, a very honest answer. what do you think, scott? final thoughts. >> you know, i think hillary is right. i think that bill clinton has fallen short on this, and he's fallen short since the moment it happened all these years ago. i think if i were hillary clinton and i were serious about the next run, i wouldn't be on a book tour with him. i'd be on a book tou

of course, hillary clinton was. that's a big difference. still, given the history, just very difficult to believe that ivanka trump's story is that she didn't know the rules. back to you. >> thanks very much. of course, the question of whether there was classified information there, arguably still an open question because hillary clinton denied there was classified information. >> and her lawyer saying there is not. but again, right, it was 110 classified hillary clinton e-mails. >> maybe there were references. we don't know. but there are two -- to be clear, let's say there is no classified information. that was one of the key issues with hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail. the presidential records act is another one here. do you need to have this stored on a private server for this to be a potential legal issue? just using the private e-mails, does that present possible legal issues for ivanka? >> so the two legal issues are the ones you identified. it is the classified information and was the presidential records act violated, rig

a lot of criticism for both bill and hillary clinton clinton. the first thing out of the gate was the elephant in the room that was addressed. people wondering if this was a tee up for hillary clinton going for 2020. here's how she responded don. >> you're on a 138 oil city tour. the two of you, president clinton. madame secretary. is that because you guys just want to hang out together? or is it because you're testing the waters for a run at being president of the united states? >> well, actually, frank, i'm thinking about standing for parliament here. >> don, it was notable that just over the midterms neither one of the clintons was called really to participate and campaign for a lot of the democrats who were trying to paint a fresh face for the party and are hoping that the clintons take a back seat. so there is kind of this struggle seeing them re-emerge now and what that means. both clintons really stressed a real emphasis, criticizing the trump administration for pulling out of the agreements, the iran be nuclear deal, the paris, a great d

there was no deleting like hillary clinton did there was no service in the basement like hillary clinton had. you are talking about a whole different -- you are talking about all fake news. >> lisa: he is not the only one coming to ivanka trump's defense. republican congressman mark meadows tweeting there are over 30,000 bleach bit reasons why hillary clinton's email scandal isn't even close to the ivanka email issue. ron johnson saying he is, quote: concerned and calling for official response by december 7th. while former assistant u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy had this to say. >> in this environment, particularly given how big an issue he made of mrs. clinton's use of private email to conduct official business, you have to wonder why anybody would do that. it's kind of an explosive thing at this point. >> lisa: congressman, should there be an investigation into this? >> sean: i don't know if there should be an investigation. i think it's foolish on behalf 6 ivanka trump to actually have a private email account when the whole race for the last presidential cycle was about hillary clinto

hillary clinton is the story. she destroyed her devices, she lied, she sent classified information on an unsecured server, which we know now based on intelligence was infiltrated by other state actors, other outside forces. china, russia, who knows who else got a hold of these emails, and 33,000 disappeared, and a few of them are trickling out here and there. judicial watch was able to get a hands on. this is a flat out joke. they keep perpetrating disinformation to the american people and they don't hold people accountable who actually broke the laws. >> sean: all right, thank you all. by the way, tara will be hosting on a 600 plus radio station, my radio show tomorrow. have fun. don't mess it up. just kidding. he's done it before. when we come back, lindsey graham weighs in on the crisis on our southern border. we will get his reaction on the situation with saudi arabia. to stay with us. a lot of breaking news. and there was a tie last week, it's my okay, if you want to catch the big one... you got to get up ear

hillary clinton had a server in the basement, ivanka didn't. it seems to me if that's your explanation, you're losing the argument it should have been abundantly clear to ivanka or anyone working in the trump administration or anywhere in the government, it was a bad idea to have a private e-mail system >> and yet she did it anyway it wasn't just her, jared kushner as well. early on others in the administration using their private e-mails early on donna, i mean am i reading this wrong? is there a generous way to read this you just really not know the rules or think it's okay to use a private server period? defend ivanka here. >> i'm not it's totally unbelievable that ivanka, close to the campaign, can come out or just watching television, can come out and not know the dangers of using a private e-mail and to say it's not on a private server is not entirely clear because it's on a public server, which could be worse. >> microsoft. >> yes she also said it wasn't deemed classified later until they did a review of it hillary clinton was secretary o

they weren't classified like hillary clinton, they weren't deleted like hillary clinton, who deleted -- she wasn't doing anything to hide her e-mails. i looked at it just very briefly today and the presidential records, they're all in presidential records. there was no hiding. there was no deleting like hillary clinton did, there was no service in the basement like hillary clinton had. you're talking about a whole different -- you're talking about all fake news. so what ivanka did, it's all in the presidential records, everything is there. there was no deletion, there was no nothing. what it is is a false story. hillary clinton deleted 33,000 e-mails. she had a server in the basement. that's the real story. >> reporter: sir, sir! >> the which policy? >> reporter: your asylum policy has been put on hold. >> you go to the ninth circuit and it's a disgrace. i'm going to put in a major complaint. can you not win a case if you're news the ninth circuit. it's a disgrace when every case gets filed in the ninth circuit. that's not law. every case in the ninth circuit we get beaten and then w

they were not classified like hillary clinton. they were not deleted like hillary clinton, who deleted -- she wasn't doing anything to hide her emails. i looked at it just very briefly today, and the presidential records, they are all in presidential records. there was no hiding. there was no deleting like hillary clinton did. there were no servers in the basement, like hillary clinton had. you are talking about a whole different -- you are talking about all fake news. so what ivanka did, it is all in the presidential records. everything is there. there was no deletion, there was no nothing. what it is is a false story. hillary clinton deleted 33,000 emails. she had a server in the basement. that's the real story. >> what is your reaction to the fact that your asylum policy has been put on hold? pres. trump: which policy? >> your asylum policy has been put on hold. pres. trump: well, you go to the ninth circuit and it is a disgrace. and i'm going to put in a major complaint, because you cannot win, if you are us, a case in the nin

they were not classified like hillary clinton. they were not deleted like hillary clinton, who deleted -- she wasn't doing anything to hide her emails. i looked at it just very briefly today, and the presidential records, they are all in presidential records. there was no hiding. there was no deleting like hillary clinton did. there were no servers in the basement, like hillary clinton had. him you are talking about a whole different -- you are talking about all fake news. so what ivanka did, it is all in the presidential records. everything is there. there was no deletion, there was no nothing. what it is is a false story. hillary clinton deleted 33,000 emails. she had a server in the basement. that's the real story. >> what is your reaction to the fact that your asylum policy has been put on hold? pres. trump: which policy? >> your asylum policy has been him him>> your asylum policy has been put on hold. pres. trump: well, you go to the ninth circuit and it is a disgrace. and i'm going to put in a major complaint, because you ca

to hillary clinton -- on hillary clinton. the fa ct clinton -- on hillary clinton. the fact the president didn't want the public to know, yes they had met with russians. why was the probes and in trying to hide it if there was nothing wrong with it? because of the way it looks to the american public, because it looks bad ash why was the president trying to hide it if there was nothing wrong with it? —— why was the president trying to hide it if there was nothing wrong with it? leading harvard law professor alan dershowitz has written a book arguing the case against impeaching president trump. in order to prove a crime, you have to prove a lot more than collusion. for it to be a crime, you have to prove something actually illegal, and the illegal thing would be if he had called and said, hey, glad, got a dealfor you, i want you to hack the democratic headquarters, here are the people i want you to hack. that would clearly be a crime. but elizabeth holtzman believes merely receiving damaging information on an opponent from

remember when hillary clinton did that? joining us now former white house communications director anthony scaramucci, he is the author of the new book "trump: the blue collar president." >> alisyn read it cover to cover. >> i can speak it chapter and verse. i commit it had to memory. >> right up there with the bible. >> they similar. >> okay. >> ivanka trump used personal e-mail for government business. >> yeah. >> oh, my goodness. >> look, when i read that is correct i mean, my first reaction was, okay, so it's sort of a bipartisan issue, right, both sides are using personal e-mail for different things and so you say to yourself why are they doing that? i don't know the answer, but i think that these watch dogs and people should figure out why there's a proclivity on both sides to do that. i heard what mark said about it being hypocritical, i think it will be a great campaign talking point for democrats to bring up the fact that she did do it. >> do you think it's hypocritical? >> well, certainly i think it's hypocritical.

there was no deleting like hillary clinton did. there was no service in the basement, like hillary clinton had. you're talking about a whole different, all fake news. what ivanka trump did, all in the presidential record, everything is there. there was no deletion, no nothing. what it is, is a false story. hillary clinton deleted 33,000 e-mails, she had a server in the basement, that is the real story. [talking over each other] >> the fact your asylum policy has been put on hold. president trump: which policy? you go to the ninth circuit, it is a disgrace and i will put in a major complaint because you cannot win if you are us, case in the ninth circuit. it is disgrace when people file, every case gets filed in the ninth sish circuit. that is not law, that is not what this country stands for. every case, we get beaten and end up having to go to the supreme court, like the travel ban, and we won. the ninth circuit, we'll have to look at that, every case, no matter where, they file it practically, i mean practically for all intents a

starting with hillary clinton. obviously, monica lewinsky and a lot of pain and tumult and turmoil for the country. the fascination stems from basically our society's infatuation and obsession with celebrity and the president of the united states. you've got this dramatic romantsic affair. so i think the sort of nature of that is something that has drawn in a lot of attention over the years and the 20th anniversary coming up, this documentary coming up has resparked some interest in that. >> there's another woman who also is at the center of this story. and that is linda tripp, someone who monica lewinsky decided to confide in and, obviously, that had consequences, not just for her, for bill clinton, for hillary clinton, but also historical implications as you know. but there she is. i think at the time she was 23 or 24 years old. she's in a room with fbi agents who have now been contacted by linda tripp. and she has to decide whether or not to tell them what happened. i want to play part of that interview again. >

simply because hillary clinton was secretary of state. she had a private e-mail server. she was sending classified information and she deleted 33,000 e-mails. there's not a direct correlation here, but it does create a problem for this administration right now, and my suggestion always is acknowledge where the mistake was made and vow to make sure that you make the proper corrections that it won't happen again. >> do we know the answer to the questions? hillary clinton said early on, i did not share classified information. >> and she did not. >> it turned out there were some e-mails in there, at least as identified by the intelligence community. >> post facto, but it was already shared. she was wholly innocent. i have a bone to pick with our media here. this was the most covered story of 2016. the most. the most. and so now, the most important issue in 20 -- >> i'm asking you about a separate issue, which is ivanka trump. i'm asking you if alice's defense of ivanka trump in your view, saying there's a clear distinction between what she's done with her e-mail and hillary

she will be a radical hillary clinton again. it didn't work out for bill clinton in 1994, dated? >> if she runs, even democrats, sean, will chant "lock her up, lock her up." what's her slogan going to be, still crooked? >> sean: is still crooked hillary. >> she has high negative, her husband lost his fastball. but the donors are getting alligator arms and she's got that losing standstill. the media is in love with beto o'rourke and i don't see where she's going here at all. >> jessica, if that's who -- tell me who you think. your top three or four people that would be able to challenge chump trump and do well. >> might dream ticket is kamala harris. that sounds like a nightmare, and i think al franken would have been if he hadn't been pushed out of the senate. some of these new faces are exciting and i think there is an argument to be made for someone someone -- some gubernatorial experience, it may be john hickenlooper. i know you guys are getting excited just hearing about all this. >> what about pocahontas and spartacus? i like that ticket. >> i don't really need that this eve

one attorney represented hillary clinton and the clinton foundation.ep mueller's pitbull attended hillary clinton's election night victory party in brooklyn and supported sally yates' insubordination against the president. the conflicts of interest are too unbelievable to be true. of course, you won't see this in the mainstream media. they they they are the extensid the cheerleaders for their friends on a special counsel on all things democrat, pushing no single most biggest and absurd conspiracy theories you will ever hear! but american lives tonight are being ripped apart becauset without any underlying crimein the screws were turned, you will remember on general flynn. he ran out of money. lost his family home. he had to sell it and face bankruptcy over the mounting legal bills before pleading guilty for lying to investigators but the f.b.i. never thought he lied. probably threatened to go after his son. good father falls on the sword and forced to admit something that the f.b.i. never thought he was guilty of. this is the thanks yougn a get r serving your country for 30 years. low lev

hillary clinton didn't carry the district. might need to get that a little bit higher as the votes kob s ce to come in. overall, spanberger out by a point right now. the fifth district right there in virginia. charlottesville starting to get numbers. see here the republican out in front. now what hasn't come in yet here is charlottesville itself. charlottesville the biggest city in the district. has come down here by roanoke, this is the most protrump part of the district. see trump numbers so far. still more vote to come in. the question was would there be slippage in trump country. trump country portion of this district. getting trump level support right now. that is what we're seeing in virginia right now. in terms of what we're watching and as stuff starts to come in at this point, one of the things we're keeping in mind is national exit polls. tell us a little bit about the direction overall. turnout numbers are going to be key. for example, in the race, what steve is saying in the trump parts of the district, you're gett

they had been here, hillary clinton, with hillary clinton, hillary is not there. trump's family and everybody involved in collusion, russia, everything spoke out well. do this and do this. and ignore what he is saying and doing. what is going on here? is this man controlling everybody in the united states now? this is just wrong. this is so terrible. >> the best advice i would give is don't be played by either side. both sides are throwing stuff into the air and the key is to look solely at what facts have been released in terms of criminal conduct. in fairness to donald trump there has been no finding directly linking him that i can see of a clear crime. that doesn't mean mueller can't do that. when you talk about people who may be apologists for trump or people on the other side accusing them of spin ultimately they don't matter. what matters is the special counsel and he is clearly driving hard. the last two weeks have shown mueller is trying to bag trump the only reason for these witnesses and conflict to come up is they didn't give him material on trump. you

clinton backer, he's an obama backer, a hillary clinton supporter. this nonsense he accuses him of engaging it actually does seem to work with some people. in other words, there are some in the president's orbit or base who hear mcraven is a hillary clinton backer or obama backer that diminishes him in the eyes of those supporters. this is former navy s.e.a.l. who headed the attack on bin laden that resulted in his death. >> the successful capture of osama bin laden after years of hard fought intelligence and with military tracking. this parts and parcel the president's assault on institutional forces of american society, whether it's the judiciary, congress, the media and of course the military. and i think what's unique when it comes to the military is i think career military officers and soldiers are almost willfully obedient to whoever is in the office. of course they have their own opinions, but i think they see their jobs as serving the country sometimes perhaps in a time of war. and they understand there's a chain of command they have to follo

one of the problems for hillary clinton is how hillary clinton handled this. that disastrous press conference she had, the what should i wipe it, with a cloth? and laughing about it. that's now how this should be dealt with. and the trump administration is skilled when a story erupts, basically distracting all of us and saying these are not thedroids you're looking for and going into the holiday. >> when you talk about how hillary clinton handled it, i also think it is also striking, and sarah got to this a little bit, on the excuses ivanka trump and her team offered up at least to this point, early on. the e-mails were mostly about logistics. they were all captured on government servers, and she wasn't aware of the rules. it is almost word for word what hillary clinton said early on on why she did what she did. so that does make me wonder if this wasn't a big deal, if this should not have been a big deal when hillary clinton did it, do democrats need to be careful on what they do with ivanka trump? >> democrats have lived this issue. it is over. democrats hav

they weren't classified like hillary clinton. i looked at it briefly today and the presidential records, they're all in presidential records. there was no deleting like hillary clinton did. there was no servers in the basement like hillary clinton had. you're talking all fake news. oh, ivanka can handle herself >> joining us reporter for the washington post. it seems like a lot of people are concerned about this and you think back to the way the president went after hillary clinton and the irony about that with her emalls. but ultimately in terms of legally, is ivanka trump in any kind of peril here? >> it's not clear and that's why we see people in the house interested in an investigation and why representative comings is going to move forward one if he takes over the oversight committee. we saw the president be as clear as possible what separates what his daughter did compared to his 2016 rival but the reality is we can't trust what he said is true regarding the extent of ivanka's email use. >>> and surely there are people arou

hillary clinton used it for all four years she served. according to people familiar with an internal review that began last year, trump's attorney found more than 1,000 e-mails that discussed her schedule. by comparison, clinton was determined that about 40,000 of clinton e-mails addressed official business and had to be turned over to the state department. another 31,000 e-mails after clinton determined they were pe pe personal. trump's attorney insists none of her e-mails contain classified information. on the other hand, the department concluded in some cases they were marked top secret. i want to bring in nbc's kristen welker at the white house. i'm going to start with this -- what? >> i think that's what a lot of democrats and republicans are asking, steph. bottom line, you have this group saying we need to know if there was classified information that was transmitted. they say that's the baseline. the height of this they say is this is typical. because of all the sound bites, trump lashing out at hillary clinton for using her person

there was no deleting like hillary clinton did. there was no service in the basement like hillary clinton had. >> ivanka trump's private e-mail use will face new scrutiny soon from democratic and republican leaders. they want to determine whether the president's daughter broke the law. >>> nancy pelosi's bid to reclaim the speaker's gavel just got a big boost. congresswoman marcia fudge, an ohio democrat who was weighing a potential challenge, announcing she will instead endorse pelosi. fudge says she made her decision after being assured black women will have a seat at the party's decisionmaking table. pelosi also announced plans to revive a subcommittee on election integrity and make fudge the chairwoman in the new congress. at this point pelosi has not faced a formal challenge in the speaker's race. she's encountered opposition from a small but vocal group of house democrats who want new leadership. >>> now to the cnn exclusive we told you about. after a year of apologizing for facebook's missteps, facebook ceo mark zuckerberg i

he-he-he-he. >> former head of u.s. -- >> hillary clinton fan. >> special operations. >> hillary clinton fan. >> who led the operations, commanded the operations that took down osama bin laden and th -- saddam hussein and killed bin laden. >> he is a hillary clinton backer and an obama backer, and -- >> he was a navy seal. >> he basically got osama bin laden a lot sooner than that. >> president trump is facing growing criticism after that, after suggesting real estate tired u.s. navy admiral william mccraven should have caught osama bin laden faster. >> he goes on to say i pointed out in my book just before the attack on the world trade center president clinton famously missed his shot. we paid pakistan billions of dollars, and had he never told us he was living there. fools. on sunday admiral mcraven responded to the fox interview with a statement from him that read, in part, "i did not back hillary clinton or anyone else. i am a fan of president obama and president george w. bush. both of whom i worked for. i admire all presidents, regardless of their political party, who uphold the di

they weren't classified like hillary clinton. i looked at it very briefly today and the presidential records, they're all in presidential records. there's no hiding. there was no deleting like hillary clinton did. there was no service in the basement like hillary clinton had. you talking about a whole different -- you talking about all fake news. >> we're joined by andy card, former white house chief of staff under george w. bush and msnbc political analyst. andy, i want to get to you off the top. this was the back and forth we had with the president where he acknowledged she did write e-mails from her personal account but then later he said it was fake news. no one accused her of using classified information. that information remains unclear. we don't know the answers to that right now. what do you make of the president's defense? >> first of all, i think she should comply with the law and be transparent in dealing with congress. she should make sure that privileged communication that helps the president do his job, article 1 is

was the dirt on hillary clinton forthcoming? ♪ >>> it was the email that set off a chain of events leading to the meeting. just a few sentences long, but every word subject to intense scrutiny and speculation. >> would you read it to us. >> sure. good morning. amon just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. the crown prosecutor of russia met with his father this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate hillary and her dealings with russia and would be very useful to your father. >> the father of course? then-candidate donald trump. and the email's author? an unlikely man to be in the center of what would become a political firestorm. rob goldstone sat down with nbc news' cynthia mcfadden to tell his story. >> you have been called a wide variety of names over the past year. useful idiot, dunce, clown, bonkers, puppet of the kremlin, sinister. any of that fit? >> i've been called much more than that as well

then when that was done, it became he wasn't really looking at hillary clinton's problem. again, it is the same issue of trump not understanding or not being interested in understanding what the justice department is supposed to do, and not supposed to do. and it is not about serving an individual. it is about serving institutions. >> it's fascinating to me that don mcgahn, and the former white house counsel is a key player in the drama you're revealing tonight when of course, we also learned months ago, you were part of the reporting on this, that don mcgahn testified for whaurz, what, 30 hoursing to special counsel robert mueller. >> yeah. look, i mean, and i don't know that he's got this memo, but i think that if he doesn't, i suspect that mcgahn will be called back as many witnesses have been to meet with mueller's prosecutors. and he could ask for this memo. i think that don mcgahn is going to be a central player in all of this, and i think that on issues like this, history is going to look favorably on mcgahn as trying to may be taken guardrails. >> don mcgahn is gon

clinton backer, he's an obama backer, a hillary clinton supporter. this nonsense he accuses him of engaging in actually does seem to work with some people. in other words, there are some in the president's orbit or base who hear mcraven is a hillary clinton backer or obama backer that diminishes him in the eyes of those supporters. this is former navy s.e.a.l. who headed the attack on bin laden that resulted in his death. >> the successful capture of osama bin laden after years of hard fought intelligence and with military tracking. this parts and parcel the president's assault on institutional forces of american society, whether it's the judiciary, congress, the media and of course the military. and i think what's unique when it comes to the military is i think career military officers and soldiers are almost willfully obedient to whoever is in the office. of course they have their own opinions, but i think they see their jobs as serving the country sometimes perhaps in a time of war. and they understand there's a chain of command they have to follo

why hadn't they going after hill -- hillary clinton with the e-mails and the dossier? >> mcgahn had to take it up with the d.o.j. that if he had asked to investigate hillary clinton that trump with face impeachment. do you think he was just being pressurent think just in case, i need to cover up. >> his job is to advise the president in what he can and can't do. he's putting that in place. who knows who's coming after him meaning don mcgahn when don mcgahn leaves. i think don mcgahn is just being careful and saying we're going to paper this, tell him exactly what he needs to know because we know he wanted to do the opposite, if you listened to what he was saying on those recordings. so mcgahn is just doing his job there. >> also from rudy giuliani, he said questions included what he knew about don jr.'s trump tower meeting. would those be easy for mueller to prove? >> well, they might be in a situation different from this. don jr. obviously discussed with his father what he said to the mueller investigators. so the president and his lawyers are completely aware of what