marcia fudge from ohio was one of the leading critics of pelosi until pelosi sat down and talked to her and promised to resurrect an old voting rights committee that was dismantled by republicans in 2013 and made marcia fudge the chairwoman next year and now marcia fudge is supporting her. that is one of the levers, one of the tools nancy pelosi has to go to these people and say what do you want? i can give you committee assignments, special assignments, office space, extra staff. i can prioritize different legislation. brian higgins from new york was another strong the tractor of -- the tractor -- detractor of pelosi. the original letter that went out with 16 signatures and pelosi got him on the phone and promised to work on medicare legislation and infrastructure things higgins wanted to focus on and now he is supporting her. there is a long time between now and january 3. that machine is not going to stop. she will continue making phone calls and having her allies make phone calls on her behalf. we will see what happens. there is a long way to go. host: mike lillis joining us, tellin

pelosi: i don't know. she was the source of many words of wisdom to those of us who served with her in the congress. this was previous to my coming to congress. but she was a friend of my family and i was talking to her in the time leading up to the democratic convention in california in 1984. in san francisco. >> on the know your power question, it goes, and then it leads right to your first ever national political effort. you said was in maryland for jerry brown. ms. pelosi: yes. >> why? what was that all about? ms. pelosi: in 1976, jerry brown, our new governor of california, new, charismatic, young governor, decided that he wanted to run for president. he was getting all kinds of attention for small is beautiful and fiscal responsibility. and he decided he wanted to run. i thought our prime area in california was -- our california primary was in june. i thought, by the time june came around, it would be all over. so, it so happened that the maryland secretary of state had declared that any candidate wh

nancy pelosi, as you know, is running unopposed. she will come out of today's internal caucus vote with the democratic nomination for speaker. of course, the tougher test will come on january 3 on the house floor where she will need exactly more than half of the 435 members of congress. that magic number for her is 218 votes. and she is saying she's very confident, but there are, as we know, a group of insurgents threatening to deny her that magic number of 218 votes. so that's sort of where we're at the moment. very interesting day and full day of voting in the internal democratic caucus. host: what has democratic leader pelosi done to solidify, particularly some of the new members coming into the 116th who expressed disapproval or lack of support for leader pelosi solidifying that number not only in the caucus but as they head to that vote you mentioned on january 3? guest: she's been holding a number of one-on-one meetings with incoming freshmen who have expressed a need for change in the upper echelons of democratic leadership,

pelosi: ok. reporter: if the election were he today on the house floor, do you have the votes elected to be speaker? ms. pelosi: yes. let me just get back to your question. [inaudible] this is what we have. we have a farm bill that we have to deal with. >> let's go live over to capitol hill now to hear from democratic congressman jim cgovern. r. mcgovern: [inaudible] eporter: [inaudible] r. mcgovern: [inaudible] we need our a-team come january 3. there is nobody more effective, better prepared to lead in the house of representatives than speaker pelosi. so i'm excited about the fact she will be our next speaker and probably good for the institution. reporter: [inaudible] r. mcgovern: [inaudible] new generation of leaders. he's already assuming the votes as caucus chair. i think he will be great. reporter: [inaudible] r. mcgovern: [inaudible] host: jim mcgovern of massachusetts, possibly the incoming chair of the rules committee. votes are continuing on capitol hill. the democratic caucus meeting.

thank you, leader pelosi! democrats are a family and i want to give another shout out to someone who has been working tirelessly in recent years, and that is the chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee. i will introduce him shortly. folks, democrats put hope on the ballot, and that's why the american people are electing democrats across the country tonight, including a majority now in the u.s. house of representatives! [applause] we campaigned on a clear message -- health care is a right, diversity is a strength, the economy should work for everyone. facts matter, science matters. when women succeed, america succeeds. when unions succeed, the middle class succeeds. folks, we did not only take over the house of representatives, our mission as the democratic national committee is to elect people from the school board to the oval office. and we have flipped the following states from red to blue at the governor level -- michigan! kansas! folks, what's the matter with kansas? they are turning democ

pelosi: i think that -- i will say this. when i was speaker and president bush was president , he treated me and the office i hold with great respect. he would jokingly call me number three. he's number one, the vice president is number two, i was number three. he never began a meeting unless the speaker was present. we worked together on many issues relating to energy, passing the biggest energy bill in the history of our country, pepfar, he wanted pepfar, we have pepfar, issues that related to tax policies that gave refundabilities toward people in our country. the list goes on and on. i would expect nothing less than that from this president of the united states. we are a co-equal branch of government. power stems from the vote of the member os they have house of representatives. i think that the president will be respectful of that. >> you've been a leader for a long time. what was different about the vote this time? ms. pelosi: this is all the same. i've always had an opponent. not always an opponent but opposition, tod

this is what he said for his support of nancy pelosi. get your reaction. anthony: the truth is i've always been independent. in albany i actually led the harge, you can read in the newspaper. i stood up to andrew cuomo. i said i will not vote for nancy pelosi. when i get to washington i will do what john f. kennedy said, we shouldn't be looking for the democratic answer, we shouldn't be looking for the republican answer, we need to be looking for the right answer. whether it's a republican idea or democratic idea, i don't care. if it's a good idea i'll support it. host: now, congressman-elect, how would you arm twist, how would you handle his concerns or concerns similar to that from other incoming members? mr. israel: i don't know that you do arm twist somebody like anthony. look, there are some districts that are he very, very ready -- that are very, very red. there are some like his where they tried to brand nancy pelosi, create a narrative. i think even nancy pelosi realizes in those handful of districts members need .lexibility look. telling her e of

i think nancy pelosi needs to stay in. she's not only a very effective leader for her, for the democrats, but she works well with donald trump. honestly, donald trump respects her more than he ever did with paul ryan and when you see nancy pelosi work with just about anybody on the other side of the aisle, she is very effective. she is not oeng experienced, there are a lot of experienced people, but she is very effective, she is good, she needs to stay, in democrats need someone like her, and not only democrat, republicans need someone like her, because she knows how to reach across the aisle. thank you. >> that is exactly the case that nancy pelosi and her allies are making. first of all, it is the year of the woman. we've heard that a lot. so many female candidates have been elected. i think the most ever. and in that atmosphere, her allies are saying what kind of a message will we be sending if we dispatch with the most senior female leader that this town has ever seen. also, there is no arguing with her effectiveness.

her husband, paul pelosi, also at the meetings today, with nancy pelosi. laura boehner lopez, who covers congress for the examiner, let's get some details on the election that just happened. hakeem jeffries, the caucus chair for the 116th congress, for house democrats. a reporter covering all of this. joining us by phone from his osition there on capitol hill. tell us about hakeem jeffries. what's been some of his notable legislation or efforts on the hill? reporter: well, hakeem jeffries is -- [inaudible] -- democratic caucus. i think that's really the right way to view this race between jeffries and barbara lee. both are progressive members. they have similar voting records. they're both key members of the congressional black caucus. the biggest difference is their age. barbara lee is in her 70's. i believe she's 72. hakeem jeffries is 48. and at a time when, you know, the congress really has been clamoring for generational change in their leadership, it was clear they did not want to vote for another. they already have three in the top echelons of leade

pelosi: our best friend in this debate is the public. president lincoln said public sentiment is everything. and you can accomplish almost othing without it. and h.r. 1 agenda going forward, we believe that it will have great support and that message won't be lost on the senate or on the president of the united tates. anyone want to speak to that? >> a lot of us who supported this ran in districts where we have to get republican support to be here. and i can tell you, i did not meet a single republican voter who thought it was a good idea that our laws allow say, a foreign government, to channel money through nonprofit organizations to a super pac in the united states to influence the outcome of this election. this is bipartisan when it comes to the american people. will it be bipartisan when it comes to the united states senate? and that's up to them to decide. mr. sarbanes: h.r. 1 is not being built for mitch mcconnell. it's being build as the speaker-designate said and the congressman just said, it is being built for the american peop

representative pelosi: i always have. i'm largely responsible for most of the resources that went into those campaigns. that didn't matter to me. i said just win, baby. does anyone have a question in this regard? reporter: there are 17 members who have signed the letter saying they will not support you on the floor. representative pelosi: have you seen the letter? reporter: i haven't seen the letter. representative pelosi: you haven't seen it. ok. reporter: there are more, apparently, who are willing to vote no. you expressed total confidence in the vote. representative pelosi: i do. ok. next question. reporter: is anyone else in your conference capable of taking on speaker? representative pelosi: this will be the last. reporter: republicans help win the gavel or -- representative pelosi: no, never. reporter: bottom line, madam leader -- representative pelosi: ok. reporter: if the election were held today on the house floor, do you have the votes elected to be speaker? representative pelosi: yes. let me just get back to y

pelosi: ok. reporter: if the election were held today on the house floor, do you have the votes elected to be speaker? ms. pelosi: yes. let me just get back to your question. [inaudible] this is what we have. we have a farm bill that we have to deal with. we have #metoo legislation we are trying to get passed here. we are trying to pass an omnibus bill so we don't have any question about shutting down government. there are issues that relate to the veterans affairs and lawsuits that are happening there. we have the mueller language that we want. we have -- we're still -- i have a day job here that's different from what's happening on the political side. we are just very excited about the size of our victory. i will say to you, always, supported it. it doesn't matter if they support me. what matters is they support a emocratic agenda to make progress for america's working amilies and they all spoke out beautifully for the people, health care, health care, health care. like a jackhammer, that's wha

this is what he said about his support for nancy pelosi. get your reaction. >> the truth is that i have always been independent. in albany i led the charge, you can read about it in the "wall street journal," to oust silver from his role of speaker, i stood up to cuomo to protect teachers and students, and i said repeatedly i'm not going to support nancy pelosi for speaker. aim ge to do what john f. kennedy said. we shouldn't look for the democratic or republican answer, we should be looking for the right answer. whether it's a democratic idea or republican idea, i don't care. if it's a good idea, i'm going to support it. host: congressman elect from new how would you handle his concerns similar to that from other incoming members? guest: i don't know that you do arm twist somebody like him. there are some districts that are very, very red. there are some districts, not a will the,-not a lot, a few, where the republicans have done a good job trying to brand nancy pelosi, creating a narrative. so -- i think even nancy pelosi realizes that in

pelosi: good morning. we have great sadness in my state of california, unprecedented number of people dead, in the high 50's, and many missing. it's just -- we've had these fires again and again but these seem to be particularly deadly. prayers and the forces need to be with california at this very sad time. much discussion about fires and causes and the rest but right now our thoughts and prayers are with those who have suffered, lost their lives, lost their loved ones, lost their homes, impabble to be made whole. so again, it's a very sad time for us in that regard. on the other hand, here, we have our -- we are celebrating a great victory for the democratic party but more importantly for the american people. every place i go people say -- and not even go, just coming in and every means of communication thank you for saving america and i convey that gratitude to my colleagues, to the grass roots people who are so effective in getting out that vote and articularly to our candidates. they had the courage t

pelosi: that will be up to the committees. we need to lower health care costs raising their paychecks and giving them confidence that their voices are heard in washington d d.c. our committees will honor their responsibilities as we go forward but i'm not putting forth an agenda? yes, sir. reporter: you designated that for part of the symbolic of that and republicans on the other side and white house, how should we look at what you are doing here. is it symbolic that the democrats will do or do you think you could get republicans in the senate and president on the united states on board? ms. pelosi: our best friend in this debate is the public. president lincoln said public sentiment is everything. and you can accomplish almost nothing without it. and h.r. 1 agenda going forward, we believe that it will have great support and that message won't be lost on the senate or on the president of the united states. anyone want to speak to that? >> a lot of us who supported this ran in districts where we have to get republican support

pelosi: ok. reporter: if the election were held today on the house floor, do you have the votes elected to be speaker? ms. pelosi: yes. let me just get back to your question. [inaudible] this is what we have. we have a farm bill that we have to deal with. we have #metoo legislation we are trying to get passed here. we are trying to pass an omnibus bill so we don't have any question about shutting down government. there are issues that relate to the veterans affairs and lawsuits that are happening there. we have the mueller language that we want. we have -- we're still -- i have a day job here that's different from what's happening on the political side. we are just very excited about the size of our victory. i will say to you, always, supported it. it doesn't matter if they support me. what matters is they support a democratic agenda to make progress for america's working families and they all spoke out beautifully for the people, health care, health care, health care. like a jackhammer, that's w

nancy pelosi welcomes all challengers. whether fudge could have the backing to defeat the minority house leader and if it is fuelling more division in the party. >> i consider the speaker to be a very talented speaker and remarkable speaker. i consider her to be a friend, but i'm closer to marsha. it's time to get out of line with upmc. at upmc, living-donor transplants put you first. so you don't die waiting. upmc does more living-donor liver transplants than any other center in the nation. find out more and get out of line today. now you can, with shipsticks.com! no more lugging your clubs through the airport or risk having your clubs lost or damaged by the airlines. sending your own clubs ahead with shipsticks.com makes it fast & easy to get to your golf destination. with just a few clicks or a phone call we'll pick up and deliver your clubs on-time, guaranteed, for as low as $39.99. shipsticks.com saves you time and money. make it simple. make it ship sticks. oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (vo) people with type 2 diabetes

and pelosi knew that. and she knew how to build a much bigger and a much broader coalition, a winning coalition. she made an alliance that was totally a totally at odds with her public image. she teamed up with john murtha, antithesis of a san francisco democrat. he had friends, friends you would not expect to be pelosi supporters, but that's what they became. and nancy pelosi won that election. and now maybe she is about to become, excuse me, the house speaker again. there is a new letter today from 16 democrats pledging that they will not support her on the house floor. but one thing is still missing. someone to actually step forward and run against pelosi. there is still silence on that front, and that has everything to do with how she has played the inside game all of these years. how behind the scenes she has managed the competing power centers within the democratic caucus, how she has insulated herself strategically, even at times ruthlessly, her critics like to say, from potential threats to her lea

if that's true, that puts nancy pelosi in a good position in the pelosi v. trump conversations that are now going to happen on a regular basis. >> sure. that's right. and, of course, i mean, the problem in any kind of negotiations that take place with donald trump is you don't know if he's negotiating in good faith. i talked to pelosi about that and she basically said, well, all we can do is try. when he's constantly shifting the goal post being a master negotiator doesn't do you any good when the stakes -- the terms of the negotiation are constantly being thwarted. but you're right that when pelosi says, look, i can beat you on this or i have the votes to achieve a, b, c. history suggests she knows exactly what she's talking about. you can pretty much take to the bank whatever her whip count is, that it's going to hold. >> republicans know how serious this is. "the wall street journal" on october 29th released an analysis saying in the campaign cycle more than 135,600 house and senate ads have mentioned pelosi in an entirely negative context. that's more ne

. >> that's why i won't support nancy pelosi. >> i won't support nancy pelosi. >> yet, pelosi is still the heavy favorite to become speaker and has no viable opponent. >> i think i'm worth the trouble, quite frankly. >> she's raised more than $1 21 million for her colleagues this cycle, and has the power to give member spots on key committees. if they take the house, pelosi's allies will make this argument. >> i think that will have taken away the argument that she is, you know, a drag or affecting, you know, candidates. if we won, then that really wasn't effective and then i don't understand what the case against her would be. >> here in kansas republican steve watkins, an army veteran and first-time candidate, was also vying for the open seat is trying to link davis to pelosi. >> he is saying what he thinks he has to say in order to get elected, and kansas voters aren't being fooled by that. >> a recent cnn poll showed that pelosi is not a major factor for most voters nationally. >> i don't think it's really having much of an impact. on day one of the campaign, i'm not going to suppo

of speaker pelosi. i think that pelosi would not be in this fight if she didn't believe she could get the votes. she's going to come out a stronger leader and speaker because of that. so i'm looking forward to the vote. >> i know. i feel like a lot of people are uncomfortable with the idea of trying to pit black women who have genuine ambitions. the party hasn't been good about giving black women power in the party. using that genuine desire to leverage out the woman and not the guy, i again say sandy hoyer is right there. you want a deputy that's young and new. no one's suggested that. let me ask you this, michael steele, is the idea that the ryan/moulten faction believes if you replace nancy pelosi with a midwestern more conservative speaker that suddenly republicans will vote for democrats because that was done, is that true? >> that's not true, that's id t idiotic. nancy pelosi is in the cross hairs because certain democrats remember how nancy pelosi used her power while she was speaker. she suffere

[applause] ♪ speaker pelosi: how you feeling? [applause] speaker pelosi: i am going to ask my colleagues to join us here. [crowd chanting] speaker pelosi: thank you all very much. thank you all very much. let me salute our chair of the democratic national committee, chairman perez, for all his successes tonight. i also want to salute the chair of the democratic national -- congressional campaign committee. aren't we proud of ben ray lujan? [applause] speaker pelosi: i want to acknowledge my grandsons. as they wave to their other cousins, in california, who are still campaigning up to the last minute in california, because it's all about the children. before i think all of you more fully, i want to thank my colleagues and acknowledge their leadership and their presence here. [applause] our distinguished whip from maryland, steny hoyer. the assistant leader of south carolina. assume they're all distinguished. bobby scott of virginia. california. g.k. butterfield of north carolina. barbara lee of california. henry clayor of texas. k

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marcia fudge from ohio was one of the leading critics of pelosi until pelosi sat down and talked to her and promised to resurrect an old voting rights committee that was dismantled by republicans in 2013 and made marcia fudge the chairwoman next year and now marcia fudge is supporting her. that is one of the levers, one of the tools nancy pelosi has to go to these people and say what do you want? i can give you committee assignments, special assignments, office space, extra staff. i can prioritize different legislation. brian higgins from new york was another strong the tractor of -- the tractor -- detractor of pelosi. the original letter that went out with 16 signatures and pelosi got him on the phone and promised to work on medicare legislation and infrastructure things higgins wanted to focus on and now he is supporting her. there is a long time between now and january 3. that machine is not going to stop. she will continue making phone calls and having her allies make phone calls on her behalf. we will see what happens. there is a long way to go. host: mike lillis joining us, tellin

they are strong allies of nancy pelosi. john lewis just released a letter, clearly timed politically, a couple hours ago saying he was endorsing nancy pelosi to be the next speaker so this is going to get very ugly and certainly over the next couple of weeks if not month or so. >> manu, let me play another thing that marcia fudge said. >> i also think that as i continue to hear not only her but other people talk about this is the most diverse congress we've ever had, then our leadership should be diverse as well. >> okay. not even thinly veiled there, manu, and you know, you talk about diversity. you can talk about race. you can talk about gender. you can talk about age. nancy pelosi's going to be 79 years old this spring. are a lot of members behind fudge on this point? >> well, it's unclear at the moment. i did spend the afternoon talking to a lot of members who are just uncertain about this challenge. even members from the congressional black caucus, the leadership of that caucus has pushed for one of the two top spots t

pelosi: i think that -- i will say this. when i was speaker and president bush was president, he treated me and the office i hold with great respect. he would jokingly call me number three. he's number one, the vice president is number two, i was number three. he never began a meeting unless the speaker was present. we worked together on many issues relating to energy, passing the biggest energy bill .n the history of our country he wanted pepfar, we have pepfar, issues that related to tax policies that gave refundabilities toward people in our country. the list goes on and on. i would expect nothing less than that from this president of the united states. we are a coequal branch of government. springs from the vote of members of the house of representatives. i think the president will be respectful of that. reporter: you have been a leader for a long time. what was different about the vote this time? rep. pelosi: this is all the same. i've always had an opponent. one time i did not have an opponent. not an opponent, but opp

. >> nancy pelosi was selected [indiscernible] -- rep. cummings: first of all, i am very pleased that nancy pelosi was elected as the nominee. i have said it before and i will say it again. she is a phenomenal person and leader. and then what is very important to me as maryland is one of the things i said when i was nominated. we as democrats do not have much time to show the nation true leadership. over the last two years, we have been blocked in every way. in my own committee, oversight. the republicans have basically aided and abetted our president. there are a number of things he has done that have made many of our constituents to feel pretty bad. now it is our chance to lead. i think nancy pelosi, steny hoyer, jim clyburn, will put us in that position where we can not hit the ground running, but hit the ground flying. we don't have any choice. >> what message will they send to voters? [indiscernible] rep. cummings: i guarantee you nancy pelosi will have the vote. i don't have any doubt. i don't anticipate that. , younk that -- you kn

votes for nancy pelosi. we would love to see her there, right? we would love nothing more than to see nancy pelosi regain the gavel because she is a 29% approval rating. she will become president trump's foil. unlikeable. makes gaffes like seeing you need to mow the grass to fix the border problem and armageddon to give american people tax cuts. crazy things she has said over time. we would love to see her there. >> jon: she is a very capable leader. she can twist arms and cut deals like nobody else. >> right. when you strike at the king you must kill him, right? i think it will be difficult for democrats, even though there is a lot of centrist democrats that won their seats promising not to vote for her. one thing when you make all the promises to voters, another thing when you get in there and all the arm twisting begins. so i think pelosi, she does have a challenge up against her but she is a very strong leader and really a good fundraiser, too. there is a lot of time before the vote comes up. >> sandra:

it because being with pelosi of the toxic. you look at national polling, 27%, of voters, want pelosi there. 29% approval rating. voters don't like nanc nancy pe. putting her speaker is toxic. if you don't have votes nancy will give you votes. we could not is for anything more. more. >> i think people will agree pelosi is experienced leader. but kaley brings up a fair point, she is unpopular, and polarizing, there has to be some sound side, a stale leadership recycled. >> i am very excited it of dem democratic party that saw largest number of women, most diverse members of congress come in through the midterm election. i am not concerned about, that i want her to tap people, like congressman elect presley, and omar, tap to the new voices and be looking to holding her accountable for, that but clearly, guy and kaley, she was not toxic. she -- that was a -- >> no, no. >> it was a good message try with you it failed, i would suggest to republicans, move on from something that failed, that is the definition of insanity. >> i want t

pelosi does not forget. and so, he may have been destined for the position in and of -- >> i think we will watch for this. eighth smart thing for nancy pelosi to do is to make her an enemy and bring them into the fold. how might she bring some of these people two are rabble rousing around here into the folds so they have no choice but to work with her? i think that's definitely a possibly, even if it looks like someone will mount a real challenge to her. >> as i jump in, does this matter, we took a poll before the election, it happens, here it is. this is overall, all americans, should nancy pelosi be the democrats? three in ten want nancy pelosi, six in ten say they want somebody else. we asked just the democrats. even divide, 44% of democrats say nancy pelosi should be speaker. vix 4 46 paris say find another speaker. does that matter? >> i think it's the base, chuck schumer getting back in his leadership post, mostly angry about a late stage confirmation of a bunch of judge nominees. the base does not hav

after the midterms nancy pelosi was blunt. after taking a third question about age on leadership. >> it is about the best person going forward. i will not answer any more questions on that subject. >> reporter: he is known as a prodigious fundraiser and skilled politician. >> she brought us to a massive victory in the house of representatives. she is strong. has the capacity, the compassion and strength of will. >> i'm not anti-pelosi. i considers the speaker to be a talented speaker, remarkable speaker, a friend but i'm close. >> reporter: in an effort to secure victory nancy pelosi has been meeting with undecided democrats one on one, won the vote of john lewis. and moveon.org. she lacks the necessary majority to win the speakers job, needing 17 democrats who are opposed to her. that is where her tough political reputation may come into play. and experienced members alexandria ocasio-cortez join the climate sit in, they find themselves with offices in the outer reaches and committee assignments no member wants. it may be rep

nancy pelosi said it herself. power is not given to you, you have to take it. that is what this effort is all about. these are not easy positions to be in, but we have to have this conversation. reporter: [inaudible] rep. rice: we'll see. my hope is we will continue the conversation, because i think the more we talk, the more productive we can be. but i for one think we have to put a focus on listening to the voters and what message they sent us in november. thank you. >> first of all, i am very pleased that nancy pelosi was elected as the nominee. and i will it before say it again. she is a phenomenal person and leader. i am also pleased that steny hoyer got selected. and then what is very important to me -- one of the things i said when i was nominated steny hoyer is that we as democrats do not have much time to show the nation true leadership. over the last two years, we have been blocked in every way. , oversight,mmittee the republicans have basically our presidentted in doing a number of things he has done that have made many of our constituents feel prett

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i like nancy pelosi. she's tough and she's smart, but she deserves to be speaker. >> those comments as the president dished out praise for two other democrats on twitter saying andrew gillum will be a strong democrat warrior long into the future and she will have a terrific political future. what's behind this shift in tone? i'll turn to you first. >> what do you make of it? >> yeah. >> is it reverence for someone who would be a great opponent? does he want to have that? is he setting her up? >> how do you see him positioning himself here or positioning her? >> in the case of nancy pelosi, she's the perfect punching bag, right? she is a woman so he's profiting on the sixism and the unconscious bias of all of us against women in leadership positions. nancy comes off as elitist even though she's passed more policies and more reforms for working class, regular americans than any other politician of this generation, but at the same time she's the perfect villain and that's yet republicans ran basically an ant

that makes a potential problem for speaker pelosi. but she is very, very good at cracking that with. she made sure that people out on the campaign trail saying i'm not going to support her didn't use the word vote so they knew she help them get through their primary, she got the riffraff out of the way, she helped them win their general. she's going to be handing out a lot of candy. the people who think it's worth it are like republicans a decade ago who would say of tom delay, nobody has to like him but he gets the job done. i think it's a mistake to go with pelosi but in the end they will because they do not have much of a force. >> bret: here is kathleen rice on how opponents would defeat pelosi. >> the first thing is we have to show that the leader cannot get to 80, i'm glad the sea marcia is thinking about it and once we show the leader cannot get to 218, you'll see other people throw their hat in the ring too. >> bret: the phrase we've been hearing around capitol hill for a while, you can't beat somebody with nobody. >> i think

could you believe it, i like nancy pelosi. she's tough and she's smart, but she deserves to be speaker. and now they're playing games with her. >> hmm. what's going on there? for more on the democratic leadership battle, let me bring in hillary rosen, and alice stewart. trump has now voiced support for pelosi a few times over the past week or so. is he trolling her? is this a strategy? what do you make of it? >> the president has done some remarkable things in politics but his ability to convince republicans to support nancy pelosi, i think, is a pipe dream. any republican that cast a vote for nancy pelosi might as well call a u-haul truck and move out of washington, dc because they won't get reelected. the young fresh faces of the democratic party have campaigned on saying they would not vote for nancy pelosi. she's right now in a full fledged battle to get her seat back, basically, playing bachelorette. taking people out to dinner, wining, dining, hoping to get the rose but it will be difficult. as a republican, it's nice to

nancy pelosi has inherited a load of unruly children. good luck to her getting anything passed by her own people. it's not a guarantee as to who will be the next speaker at this point. there is seditious talk in the democratic caucus finding an alternative to speaker pelosi. to save her gavel, nancy is playing the female card. in other words, she is trying to convince her caucus you can't maintain a majority without a woman running the show. >> you cannot have the four leaders of congress, the president of the united states, five people and not have the voice of women, especially since women were the majority of the voters, the workers in the campaign and now part of this glorious victory. >> laura: is there a dark pink cloud gathering on the horizon s victory? of the newly elected crop of women on capitol hill see things differently than speaker grand am. they do not represent the majority of democratic freshmen but they have all the jews, the energy and the excitement. the political gender card pelosi perfected has been employed in a n

pelosi: i think that -- i will say this. when i was speaker and president bush was president, he treated me and the office i hold with great respect. he would jokingly call me number three. he's number one, the vice president is number two, i was number three. he never began a meeting unless the speaker was present. we worked together on many issues relating to energy, passing the biggest energy bill in the history of our country. he wanted pepfar, we have pepfar, issues that related to tax policies that gave refundabilities toward people in our country. the list goes on and on. i would expect nothing less than that from this president of the united states. we are a coequal branch of government. my power there springs from the vote of members of the house of representatives. i think the president will be respectful of that. reporter: you have been a leader for a long time. what was different about the vote this time? rep. pelosi: this is all the same. i've always had an opponent. one time i did not have an opponent. i have a

i like nancy pelosi. she's tough and smart but she deserves to be speaker. >> those unwelcomed gifts in washington here. pelosi met face-to-face with one congresswoman marsha fudge. she emerged to say she is willing to back pelosi if she offers a timetable to younger leadership. >> basically she asked me if we could get to a point where i would be supportive. there is, yes, but it's going to take some. >> she is part of a group demanding new leadership. pelosi played hardball in response to that. >> you have to ask those people with an their motivation is. i think of the 17 it's mostly like 14 men who are on that letter. if, in fact, there is any misogyny involved in it, it's their problem and not mean. >> that last part and the pause between 14 -- men. she felt she had to do that tells you that she doesn't have the votes today. >> it does. if you take that group at their word, take a look at the list of members on that letter, if the vote were held today and those people did not say the name pelosi, she

nancy pelosi has inherited a load of unruly children. good luck to her getting anything passed by her own people. it's not even a guarantee as to who will be the next speaker at this point. there is seditious talk in the democratic caucus finding an alternative to speaker pelosi. to save her gavel, though, nancy is playing the female card. in other words, she is trying to convince her caucus you can't maintain a majority without a woman running the show. >> you cannot have the four leaders of congress, the president of the united states, these five people and not have the voice of women especially since women were the majority of the voters, the workers in campaigns and now part of this glorious victory. >> laura: is there a dark pink cloud gathering on the horizon of this glorious victory? the newly elected crop of women on capitol hill see things differently than speaker grand nan. they do not represent the majority of democratic freshmen but they have all the juice, and the excitement. the political gender card pelosi perfected has be

pelosi as the second female house speaker. she was also the first house speaker who was a woman. take a listen. >> now that we have all of these women coming into the congress, it would be a damn shame that you then replaced this fearless leader with a man. >> elijah cummings incoming chairman of the house oversight committee. do you agree? >> listen, she's powerful. she's led them to victory. she has locked up all of the powerful committee chairs. she knows what she's doing and people are scared of her. look to the fact, there are more house democrats willing to run for president than to challenge nancy pelosi for speaker. and if she is really in trouble -- a good number of republicans would vote for her, because as mary kathryn pointed out, she is still a great bogeyman, they are addicted to making ads about. >> one of the most high-profile incoming freshmen or freshwomen is alex andrea owe cosr casto c. here's what she said. oh, this is not about personality. this is not about rebuke. it's not about confrontation. it's abou

nancy pelosi has been the leader of the house democrats now since 2003. and when republicans would lose, we lost the majority in '06, dennis hastert step ad side, john boehner was forced to step aside. there tends to be some consequences when there's a perceived to be a failure in an election. when nancy pelosi and the democrats in 2012 and 2014, they may be attained the same leader. a lot of drafts were frustrated by that. >> this is from dan pfeiffer, a former obama adviser. he says i'm very something to the desire for a new generation of leaders. the main argument against pelosi seems to be the republicans like to attack her in campaign ads. >> dan pfeiffer has a point. hillary had a similar point. i agree with congressman debt that there is some restlessness on the democratic side. democrats need to ask themselves this, which model has worked better for republicans, sticking with mitch mcconnell nondescript inside player an elitist maybe who has marched the republican agenda through the senate, got kavanaugh over the hump without raising his voice, br

the top three democrats are expected to be pelosi as speaker, pelosi is 78, and they've heard plenty about the need for more opportunities for younger democrats. >> if i am elected today i will immediately put in place a process by which we can help younger members and new members develop the knowledge and the know-how to make themselves effective legislators here in the congress. i am always thinking about the future. >> hakeem jeffries has been elected to be the next democratic caucus chair, and he talked about the race for speaker. >> i support leader pelosi, i think every member will have to do what they feel is the best interest of their district. once we get through all of this we are going to need to come together because there are real issues we have to tackle on behalf of the american people and hopefully we will do that sooner rather than later. >> with so many democrats during the campaign cycle running against pelosi for speaker, there's been a lot of concern about whether house democrats could unify. >> harris: it's so interesting with hakeem jeffries of new york, one of

nancy pelosi has been the leader of the house democrats now since 2003. and when republicans would lose, we lost the majority in '06, dennis hastert stepped side, john boehner was forced to step aside. there tends to be some consequences when there's a perceived to be a failure in an election. when nancy pelosi and the democrats lost in 2012 and 2014, they maintained the same leader. i think a lot of democrats were frustrated about that. >> this is from dan pfeiffer, a former obama adviser. he says, "i am very sympathetic to the desire for a new generation of democratic leaders. but the main argument against pelosi seems to be that republicans like to attack her in campaign ads, which seems like a dumb thing to factor into picking a democratic leader." does he have a point? >> yeah, dan pfeiffer has a point. hilary had a similar point. i agree with congressman dent that there is some restlessness on the democratic side. democrats need to ask themselves this, which model has worked better for republicans, sticking with mitch mcconnell, nondescript inside p

"in politics, nobody's perfect, including nancy pelosi. but the basic rule is that you can't beat somebody with nobody. that's the problem with nancy's skeptics." one of the leaders, ed perlmutter, he disagrees. saying "we have a lot of great diverse candidates from all across. they would be fantastic as the next speaker. they need the opportunity to wise up and step forward." elijah cummings points to chair house oversight also backed pelosi, partly because of her gender. >> now that we have all of these women coming into the congress, it would be a shame you didn't replace this fearless leader with a man. it's her time, and, again, she is battle-tested. i'm looking for two looking with her as my speaker. >> she is battle ever tested, like one of them world war i ships. how about that. let's talk about this. there really isn't anyone bold enough who can get the votes to step forward and unseat her. why's that? >> adrienne: i think if joe crowley had been elected and won the primary come i think he would be in this strong challenge. she is

unfortunately for nancy pelosi she represents the party of -- how do i say this. i'm afraid to use the term liberalism nowadays because of samantha bee, but that kind of global elite. and that was what hillary clinton symbolized and i think that pelosi is so aligned with that -- i would say you should take a stand on this and the stand should be to have nancy pelosi go gracefully off into the sunset and move some new blood and new people into that position of leadership. >> only if they want future. i think that's why the president came out and endorsed nancy pelosi because she is the perfect foil for him. and if it goes south, and it will end it will happen quickly, she's the perfect person for him to pin all of this blame on. >> richard: i hear you but you have to give nancy pelosi lots of credit. what she did on tuesday night with leading the democratic caucus and fund-raising for tons of members is going to change the arc of history. and here's why. >> but you could still have her in the background doing fund-raising. >> you're going to treat her like hillary

pelosi, you can see from from the exchange was defiant, feisty. she is certain she will get the votes to get the speaker both to be nominated later this month by her caucus and then the full house votes in the first day in january, she believes she'll get those 218 votes on the floor from democrats alone. the question is who may run against her. there's talk from marsha fudge, who is a democrat from ohio, member of the congressional black caucus. she has said she's serious lily thinking about it, getting encouragement to do it. when pelosi was asked about the prospect of a marsha fudge candidacy, she said "come on in, the water's warm." >> is there a chance nancy pelosi would have to rely on republicans to get the vote? >> it's possible in this environment. i talked to one republic who made it clear she could support nancy pelosi if she embraced a bipartisan package of rules -- other democrats are saying they will vote for her only if she endorses this rules change. >> i've been saying the same thing for months now. i won't vote for any speaker un