boehner and paul ryan have the boehner had the same problem and paul ryan of course had the same problem. these guys are not newt gingrich, they're not tom delay. it's made it harder to herd all the cats. >> and reich those two leaders before him he'll still have that really quided conference in the house of representatives, the hard corps conservative tea party and the moderates, people more willing to compromise. so what tools does he have available to him? >> what he does seem to have available are the tools we were talking about in term os he believe he is should let the party go in the direction it wants to go. it's not his job to have one solid vision and push everyone along. that, you know, it may be messy, we may fall short on some votes like when they did -- they needed votes to pass a farm bill which was wild because we haven't heen -- farm bill is something everybody can get behind and pass. when he was whip at the time they fell short. it was like counting voting he argued in the end because we couldn't pads that and couldn't pass other measures, it let us negotiate for more.

>> sure, it was kevin mccarthy of paul ryan and eric cantor course. their whole plan was to retake congress for the republicans. so at the time, the tea party was coming of age, obamacare had just passed. and what they -- they credit this program, it was interesting, it was three establishment guys who were going to recruit all of these, in a lot of cases, tea party candidates. they traveled -- mccarthy just travels all over the place. and sort of works tirelessly. they came up with this program where you'd have to go through certain levels of commitment and show you've achieved certain things, you've gotten a certain base, you bring in this much money, you set up this kind of organization. as you reached each level you would get more money from the young guns p.a.c. this was a good example as i mentioned before of how mccarthy was good at building bridges between, in this case you had the big donor money which was not going to look at some of the candidates who were sort of, in some cases they may have seen them as tea party yahoos in parts of the co

very early on, even as paul ryan is publicly feuding with donald trump. so that is politically risky to have your number two guy expressing support for trump. basically, the story i heard was that mccarthy is the majority leader. he controls what's happening on the floor each week. he's calling donald trump and giving him a briefing every week saying this is what the house republicans are going to be focused on. this is what we're putting on the floor this week, just wanted to give you a heads up. they start to develop a trust with each other and kevin mccarthy obviously one of the best on capitol hill at nuturing and developing relationships is able to develop this relationship with a future president. host: they delivered for the president, president trump's signature tax bill. can you talk about kevin mccarthy's role in that? >> he played a big role in delivering that tax bill which was a very tough thing politically to do because he had a lot of members who were in districts where those tax cuts were not tax cuts for their constituents including orang

>> sure, it was kevin mccarthy and paul ryan and eric cantor of course. their whole plan was to retake congress for the republicans. so at the time, the tea party was coming of age, obamacare had just passed. and what they -- they credit this program, it was interesting, it was three establishment guys who were going to recruit all of these, in a lot of cases, tea party candidates. they traveled -- mccarthy just travels all over the place. and sort of works tirelessly. they came up with this program where you'd have to go through certain levels of commitment and show you've achieved certain things, you've gotten a certain base, you bring in this much money, you set up this kind of organization. as you reached each level you would get more money from the young guns p.a.c. this was a good example as i mentioned before of how mccarthy was good at building bridges between, in this case you had the big donor money which was not going to look at some of the candidates who were sort of, in some cases they may have seen them as tea party yahoos in parts of the co

paul ryan and mitch mcconnell have been the problems. now that he realizes for the next six years he must really understand that nobody there was going to be maneuvered into doing what is best for this country. he has to do it on his own. >> if we do not have this president, mark, the republican party would be woefully in deficit of a leader who cared about middle class, working men and women and their families, and those who aspire to the middle class. i mean, he is the only hope for the american man and woman and their families. >> outside of him, i don't know who will help us. i don't see him getting a lot of support. >> lou: he has his pin, he has the constitution on his side. >> you get a media working against them. anytime anyone says the wall is a moral, they should be questioned about it. there's a wall behind me, there is a wall over there. chuck schumer has a wall in his office, wall in his house. >> lou: now you're asking the democrats to makes sense and speak the truth. >> were okay with offense. >> when it comes to the media

host: he doesn't have paul ryan, he has mitch mcconnell, is that a value? guest: certainly mitch mcconnell is a value in terms of getting judges confirmed and getting his cabinet picks, since he does have turnover there. mitch mcconnell is a good legislator, but one thing he has in common with paul ryan is that he is not necessarily committed to some of the agenda items that were uniquely president trump during the primary campaign. host: so it's a difference of philosophy? guest: i think it's somewhat a difference of philosophy and a difference in strategy and tactics. president trump is the president because he won pennsylvania and michigan. i don't think some of the standard republican agenda items were the reason he was able to pull out narrow victories in that space. to thent trump's path electoral college majority really relies heavily on being able to satisfy and turn out these working-class -- white working-class voters. it's not clear that a corporate tax cut will get the job done in that department. host: this is jim antle, if you want to ask him

the president it stops somewhere else, in this case paul ryan. the president promised a free wall. that was the idea through his masterful negotiating skills he could bend the mexican president to his will or get it through remittances or something like that. that never happened, they never tried to do any of that. and the fact is republicans didn't necessarily support the wall, which is why it's taken so long and why he's having to make this end run around congress to get the more billion dollars that congress wouldn't give him. >> did he say anything problematic to his case, a.b.? >> he said it so many different ways. he said this is about 2020. he said i didn't have to do this. he said i'm doing it because congress isn't working fast enough. he called it a non-emergency, a fake emergency so many times. infuriating the lawyers he hired to defend this, and obviously to the slight of the people on the other side who are going to be working to block it. he really undermined his case in many, many different ways. basically saying explicitly this wa

paul ryan, and mike pence in the oval. a small group meeting and ryan is droning on over and over going over the same points. at some point the president stand up, walks into the room and goes into the private dining room and clicks on the tv and hangs out in there. the vice president went in there to get him to come back. that's the most of hard-core power move i have ever seen and pretty much set the stage for the trump-ryan dynamic the next couple years. jesse: you talk about how ryan miscalculated the repeal and replace of obamacare and a fire was lit under him. you had your hands in bringing the mooch on to the white house communications shop. we all remember what happened to the mooch. mooch is a fan of. "watters' world." this is an expert from the book. this is from the president. can you believe this guy? i have never seen anything like it says the guy who hosted a reality show with dennis rodman, omarosa and gary busey. tell us about the mooch coming in taking over for sean spicer. how did that go down? >> the pre

but we also have to bring into play the name paul ryan. he's the one who played games with schiff and let him drive that narrative in the face of evidence that nunes had collected that substantiated his views and positions on the president throughout. correct? >> there was an evolution at the very end of paul ryan's tenure as speaker. late in the process, i think at the beginning he thought devin nunes and mark meadows were on some goose chase. i know i talked to him by the. he told me directly for the first time. pass more and more evidence came through as his lawmakers were more determined than he to get to the truth, he finally came to that position. >> i'm a trusting and open hearted soul i think paul ryan was lying throughout. he betrayed them man my -- betrayed them and in my judgment the country. let's turn to further the idea that special counsel mueller that you reported goes back to 2002 in the way in which he was acting without integrity in permitting those with him on his team to do so in flagrant violation of the regulations f

. >> reporter: do you have a comment on andrew mccabe briefing mcconnell and paul ryan and devin nunes telling them about the investigation? >> i think andrew mccabe has made a fool out of himself over the last couple of days and he looks like a poor man's j. edgar hoover. i think he's a disaster and what he was trying to do was terrible and he was caught. i was proud to say we caught him so we'll see what happens but he is a disgraced man. he was terminated not by me. the ig report was a disaster from his standpoint. anybody reading the ig report would say how could a man like this be involved with the fbi? this man is a complete disaster. thank you all very much, thank yo you. >> thank you. thank you. >> so the president making news in a couple headlines. one, you know we've been reporting about this mueller probe coming to an end and the president was asked about bill barr, his new ag called him a tremendous man. mccabe, the former acting fbi director, talked to a lot of media outlets and anderson sa g saying -- andrew mccabe saying he believed that the president might have been a r

ed: i think we need to mention ex-speaker paul ryan. he made a promise to the president he would get this bill through if the president would sign off on the omnibus bill. then he did nothing. it should have been h.r.1 two years ago. we'll now go through a long legal battle. but i think the president is on the right track. the country needs to win. lou: the president talked about the trade war for what it is, an undeclared trade war and the united states is only now recognizing the chinese have been waging a wash for three decades against us, not only they have been winning but they have won to this point. now he's taking on the cartels. this is the first president to have the guts to name the enemy responsible for tens of thousands of deaths, whether it's opioids or methamphetamines or fentanyl or marijuana. it is -- this president cannot be commended highly enough for his courage. ed: i totally agree. every day he'll make converts on this wall. this will be an election issue in 2020. the democrats have drawn the line on their side tha

how do you feel about paul ryan being at the white house? whatever do you imagine. >> i certainly would like to know who he is meeting with. the vice president said he was not meeting with him. his outfitter reminded me of after al gore lost and he grew a beard and disappeared for six or eight months. >> lou: we were granted that courtesy at six months. >> i think he needs to go away. >> this man betrayed this president in every way he lied, he cheated the president out of what should have been easy victories pledges to the american people, not one man refused the subpoenas he refused to back up the president. his ignorance will live in infamy forever. he has matured place in the darkest pages of our history. >> he lost 40 seats, gigantic amount. >> reporter: is a fraud in every way. >> let's turn to the border wall. he expects the deal over the weekend but he's not sure the president will accept it, were now receiving word from some appropriators that the offer will be $1.3 billion from the border wall. i personally think that's the most in

paul ryan was supposed to help with the wall. that does not happen. he is no longer there. is republicans are not serious about the wall or immigration or security enforcement, that people need to look at the republicans as well. coulture anbnn and others who criticized the president, these are not people in the trunk republican party. some of them are just looking for attention, media attention to get their faces out there. host: our guest is stephanie hamill. people can follow you on twitter at -- guest: stephmhamill. host: and also at the daily caller. we welcome viewers in london, including brendan. good morning. caller: good morning. it is a lovely day in london. host: we are glad to hear from you. sent some of the nice weather here. caller: regarding that lady, why do we need to make up stories about president trump? because the truth is enough to condemn him. parts, hebout private made a stupid mistake some years ago. your president have a lot more to answer for. your defense of him, during the war, there was a guy who defended the nazis. you have crossed the border

does he believe that paul ryan, devin nunes, richard burr and mitch mcconnell are part of the same deep state that the intelligence community is made up of? joining me now is msnbc's intelligence and national security reporter ken dilanian. ken, we have not confirmed "the new york times" reporting on this. we don't know that this actually happened. or i'm sorry, of even what andrew mccabe has said. we know that he said that to savannah guthrie but we don't know that it actually happened. >> that's an important point, ali, and first let me congratulate you for getting the intelligence oversight act of 1980 in a script. as the intelligence reporter i appreciate that deeply. but you're right. i am treating this with a little bit of skepticism because i've seen this movie before on the cia and torture where the cia claimed they briefed certain members of congress and the members said they didn't reall getting that briefing. so far none of the gang of eight have come forward and confirmed they were told this. and you'll notice in that interview with savannah andrew mccabe never explicitly sa

he's taken some of his ire out on paul ryan, who is no longer there. he was the house speaker until the gypping of this year but he blames paul ryan for promising to get money for the wall and not delivering it. last year when the republicans controlled the house, and now it's in control of nancy pelosi and democrats so the idea they were going to do something that paul ryan's republicans weren't can going to do was always a stretch. i think he's frustrated with republicans as much as he's angry with the democrats at this point. >> what is the case that will be articulated in an emergency declaration when the flow of illegal immigrants over the border wall is at a 40-year low? >> yeah, that's a good question. in fact, of course, if it's an emergency now, why wasn't it an emergency five years ago or ten years ago? the numbers don't support the idea it's something extraordinary happenli extraordinary happening now that hasn't in the past. on the other hand, there was a law passed by congress in the '70s, national emergencies act, that does give the presi

lou: two groups of folks that i think of, one an individual paul ryan. two groups that i think of are republican conference, they look at those numbers they listen to president's speech last night, they have to know what fools they were not to follow this president with joy and great energy for two years, instead of fighting under the leadership of speaker ryan. the other group is intelligence community of this country who think suddenly they have a prerogative to enter political arena with their comments and their contradictory and absolutely inappropriate public contradicttion of the president. >> yeah. lou: your thoughts about that? >> let me say, we know that the memo adam schiff did, now chairman of house intelligent committee, that memo a year ago, that was in response to chairmen no-- non memo that is the statet that was wrong. we know bruce ohr from his testimony, said sh said 3 key t, fusion gps is connected to the president, and he was desperate to stop trump, he told bruce ohr told fbi, and keep people of justice department, all that informati

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your party, whether jeff flake, mitt romney, mitch mcconnell or paul ryan, do you ever just pick up the phone and say, maybe you need to come to your senses and get with the party. >> i certainly share what i see from our base. i traveled the country all of the time. we see the letters coming into the rnc. we see the support the president has. the small dollar fundraising along has eclipsed anything republican has seen. you know why? people are saying this is a person who is going to champion us and is listening to the problems we are facing. washington is so out of touch and they have lost step with the american people to such a degree, we don't trust them to get things done. president trump comes in and says this is a crisis that is been pushed down for 30 years. it is time, once and for all, to address it. republicans and democrats will have to get on board. it's putting our safety at risk when you have drugs crossing our border at the level it is. human trafficking, think about that. people being trafficked into the country to be put in a sex slaves. that's horrific. isn't that wort

and while you can blame the radical dimms and we do, you can also thank paul ryan for making today's sort the spectical possible. >> still ahead, tonight, congresswoman caroll miller trashing michael cohen's hearing as a total waste of time. >> i am very disappointed to have you in front of this committee today. i find this hearing not in the best interest of the american people. this is another political game with the purpose of discrediting the president. lou: congresswoman miller will join us tonight. up next, we take up political effect of this eventful day with the dean himself, republican strategist ed rollins stay with us, we'll coming right back. each day justin chooses to walk. at work... and after work. he does it all with dr. scholl's. only dr. scholl's has massaging gel insoles that provide all-day comfort. to keep him feeling more energized. dr. scholl's. born to move. ♪ ♪ i can do more to lower my a1c. because my body can still make its own insulin. and i take trulicity once a week to activate my body to release it, like it's supposed to. trulicity is not insulin. i

and while you can blame the radical dimms and we do, you can also thank paul ryan for making today's sort the spectical possible. >> still ahead, tonight, congresswoman caroll miller trashing michael cohen's hearing as a total waste of time. >> i am very disappointed to have you in front of this committee today. i find this hearing not in the best interest of the american people. this is another political game with the purpose of discrediting the president. lou: congresswoman miller will join us tonight. up next, we take up political effect of this eventful day with the dean himself, republican strategist ed rollins stay with us, we'll coming right back. each day justin chooses to walk. at work... and after work. he does it all with dr. scholl's. only dr. scholl's has massaging gel insoles that provide all-day comfort. to keep him feeling more energized. dr. scholl's. born to move. ok look, if you're not the lead dog, the scenery never changes. that's why this is the view for every other full-size pickup. and this year, it's déjà vu all over again 'cuz only the ford f-150 with its

but paul ryan and mitch mcconnell, promised him they would get this wall funded in full in the lame duck session, if that was necessary. big shocker, that never happene happened. so after speaker "i need to spend weekends at home" ryan, handled the democrats, the president face an even higher wall of resistance. a lame old border deal was announced right before the president took to the stage in el paso last night, and by the morning, the details started trickling in. >> president trump: i have to study it. i'm not happy about it, and, it's all going to happen, we are building a wall. and now i will say we are finishing a wall. >> that won't happen though, not unless the president finds the money elsewhere. or, declares a national emergency which will immediately be challenged of course by the left in court. and tonight, after speaking to one of the republican architects, richard shelby, senator from alabama with the latest deal, the president tweeted, was just presented the concept and parameters and looking over all aspects knowing this will be hooked up with lots of money from other s

trump's advisors mentioned in passing paul ryan, then speaker of the house, had told reporters. that mr. trump had asked mr. flynn to resign. it was unclear where mr. ryan had gotten that information, but mr. trump seized on mr. ryan's words. that sounds better. mr. trump turned to sean spicer, say that, mr. trump ordered. but was that true, spicer pressed. say i asked for his resignation mr. trump repeat. betsy you've covered this administration for some time now. does that surprise you at all? >> it's not particularly surprising that trump would hear somebody say something on tv and then seize on it. what i think is pretty extraordinary about what the times has reported is that spicer then went to the podium in the white house press room and made a number of claims that the white house's own lawyers believed were not true. and that those lawyers memorialized the failure of spicer to correctly and truthfully describe the way flynn's firing played out. remember, flynn's departure from the white house is a pivotal moment in the early weeks of the trump administration. it was a hu

that was his instinct and he listened to paul ryan and that was a huge mistake. these family units are going to be crossing the border and released. huge influx into this country. today the "washington post" wrote another piece about it >>> that's absolutely correct. the asylum issue and the flores decision, the judicially created monday da torii catch and release is the core problem. we have to address that and not allow the judges to decide how we're going to secure our border. the things we're not talking about is the extent to which the car tell have literal operational support of our border. we're not allowed to travel. that's an emergency level kind of operation that we're dealing with at our border. the president is right to be focused on. that congress ought to do its job and step up in having the obligation to second cure our border. >> laura: gentlemen, thanks so much. we'll have you back as this continues to develop. after early morning criticism some gop office pushing back against me specifically as it relates to ice and the detention beds. they say

paul ryan and hisn republi majority are gone. in the audience thistime, four democrats who are running for president in 2020. as is customary, a democratic response will this year, the speech will be given by stacey abrams. she lost her bid to be georgia's first black governor but is still a rising star in the party. also in the crowd, guests that were invited by lawmakers by both sides of the aisle. a our next half hour, we'll let you know who is co what their presence is said to represent. >>> beginning today, many general motors employees will be out of a job. the automaker is cutting 4,000 white collar jobs. the company is going to begin the first round of layoffs today. gm has terminated 14,000 jobs in the u.s. and canada since . novemb the company is also closing three assembly plants, one in the ltimore area and two mor by the end of this yr. >>> the outbreak of measles in washington state is growing worse by the day. only 1 patient has been vaccinated for the virus. >> a lot of precautions of anyone entering with signs or

lou: two groups of folks i think of, one an individual whose name is paul ryan, the two groups that i think of are the republican conference. when they look at those numbers and they listen to the president's speech last night, they have to know what fools they were not to follow this president with -- >> yeah. lou: -- with joy and great energy for two years instead of fighting under the leadership of speaker ryan. the other group is the intelligence community of this country who think suddenly they have a prerogative to enter the political arena with their comments and their contradictory and just absolutely inappropriate public contradiction of the president. >> yeah. lou: your thought abouts about that. >> well -- thoughts about that. >> well, let me just say this, we now know that the memo adam schiff did a year ago, late january of last year, that was in response to chairman nuÑes' memo. he said this about bruce ohr, he said republicans mischaracterize the influence of bruce ohr and mislead on the timeline of his involvement in all this. those statements were absolutely wrong. w

all of these things were happening, and paul ryan and john boehner and the republican house members who were then in the minority were screaming bloody murder and saying it was an existential threat to democracy and were passing all of these things to rein in the debt. and when they got power, suddenly everything changed and the debt was not important at all. as a tax bill just showed you, they just passed a tax bill that allowed $1.5 trillion added to the debt. host: one guy who always worried about the debt and deficits is walter jones. died yesterday. the congressman from north carolina, a 24 a veteran of capitol hill. what will your member about walter jones? guest: he was fascinating. he was really his own person. toryone up here one -- wants think they think on their own and will just represent their constituents, but walter jones truly was that guy. he was the guy, to the pain and frustration and detriment of his own leadership, he would go to the courthouse and call for the removal of troops from iraq, no explicite was congressional authorization for that at a time when it was r

joining me now here to discuss this is former top adviser to paul ryan, brendan buck, who also worked for former house speaker john boehner. now, first of all, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> great to see you out of the halls of congress. >> the circus. >> well said. you are gone now but still in touch with your former friends and colleagues. >> sure. >> what are you hearing about what the republicans strategy is to beat back this resolution? >> yeah. it's going to be fascinating vote. i certainly expect it to pass the house with democrats in charge. the question obviously is going to be whether veto proof majority. i don't expect there will be. i think you'll see a smattering of republicans support it. but far short of the 290 votes you'll need. if i know this conference know, i know they won't embarrass the president with a veto override on his signature issue. so probably pass. it will probably pass the senate but i imagine only with a handful of republicans. >> but in the house, which you know so well, you do think there will be not a veto proof, number of republ

you talk about relationships, an count coulter who the president spoke on tweeted this is not paul ryan's fault, this is not mitch mcconnell's fault, trump ran against the gop and won, responsibility is 100% his. >> what was the title of her book again? "in trump we trust?" is that what it was? i wonder what the next book will be. not to go sideways but the president acknowledging the rains he has with fox news hosts, conservative talkers who are very important inside the movement, very important inside the base, maybe not usually so important inside the oval office, how does that move forward? >> it's a big part. how much he was out thing and speaking about rush limbaugh's skills of speaking for three hours without taking a phone call and asking reporters and everybody in the audience, could you do that? it's easy to take phone calls. this is obviously something that is very important to him. you guys were reporting earlier about how trump was -- and his staff were kind of reaching out to those media and asking them to kind of help sell this and kind of rewrite the narrative much like in

remember, when republicans controlled the house, paul ryan went to extraordinary lengths to even prevent a vote on this issue that he stuck a provision in the farm bill to that end. the war supported by the united states has led to tens of thousands of deaths in yemen with millions more people including children at risk of starvation in a horrifying crisis. today the house passed a measure to withdraw u.s. military support from the war. a similar bill passed the senate previously and could pass again in this session. that would be a major rebuke to donald trump and the first time such a measure made it to the president's desk. but millions of lives on the line the bill is overdue. >>> a few weeks ago, very, very few people even knew what the green new deal was. now it sits at the center of american political conversation. so much so senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is planning a vote on it. >> i have note with great interest the green new deal, and we're going to be voting on that in the senate. it will give everybody an opportunity to go on record. and see how they feel about the

later the president did call out paul ryan by name. phillip that's the state of play this morning as the dawn almost is getting ready to rise over washington. >> mike, thank you. >>> joining me now political reporter and from business insider with politico. thank you both for joining us. first i want to listen to what may become a central piece of the legal challenges ahead for the president's declaration. >> i could do the wall over a longer period of time. i didn't need to do this. but i rather do it much faster. i didn't have to do it for the election. i already done a lot of wall for the election. 2020. and the only reason we're up here talking about this is because of the election. because they want to try to win an election, which it looks like they are not going to be able to do. >> so, how much is the president undercutting his own argument here? >> what's really interesting about president trump is that whenever he starts off with a situation he's usually in a pretty good position. in this case that was true also. the supreme