our guests debated the situation in south africa including those comments by julius malema. his comments still i think do hold certain. underlying feelings of negativity. towards white people and i do believe that mr malema he does have to have negative intentions towards the white people in south africa who want to obliterate want to and completely this system which is constructed to do white people on top and uplifting and exploiting black people want to end up system so that to south africa is in the end of the black majority we construct a new society which take years off of black people without pushing white people in fact where people can even leave if they want to the general ideology of julius malema wherein he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points. so why don't we needed a country thirty five thousand white families only eighty percent of the land we don't own as i speak to you as a black person in south africa i owed nothing i am in fact i think a tenant white people always did everything there

the do not meet the legal threshold to qualify is hate speech julius malema is the leader of the economic freedom fighters party which are gives the black south africans continue to face systematic discrimination he was previously convicted of hate speech in twenty ten and twenty eleven and subsequently expelled from the ruling african national congress party here are some of the statements that critics have claimed amount to incitement to violence against white people. why we don't believe why not our might be why i'm not going to do you know what time i'm saying to you we're not called for the killing of wade people at least for now i can go to the future i don't want blacks to work for whites i want you to work for yourselves and white people will work for you that will be true freedom you must teach them how to carry babies on their back they must feel what our parents have been feeling we are not calling for white people to be killed before white people to be our domestic workers or the commentators we spoke to agree that malema is words are reprehensible they ultimately have mixed f

malema as controversial remarks. his comments still i think do hold certain underlying feelings of negativity towards white people just shows that you're trapped in the love and admiration of white people he has given political power to white racist but when he speaks in front of a black people who he knows. first and have to make believe years like this white people he provides it is force of militancy that simply provides some kind of force a distraction the general ideology of julius malema where in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't one that want to obliterate why. and completely this system which is constructed to do off white people on top and not getting them exploiting black people the government gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier f

malema as controversial remarks. his comments still i think do hold certain underlying feelings of negativity towards white people still shows that trapped in the love and admiration of white people he has given political power to a white racist but when he speaks in front of a black people who he knows. best and have to make believe us like this white people he provides it is forced me to see that simply provide some kind of force a distraction the general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't one that want to obliterate you want to and completely this system which is constructed to do off white people on top and placing them exploiting black people the government gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to ent

calling for white people to be killed but for white people to be our domestic work julius malema was expelled from the african national congress in two thousand and twelve for showing division within the party he went on to found the economic freedom fighters political party which follows marxist ideology and which is currently the third largest in both houses of parliament over the years national debate with his views on race and class has been found guilty twice of hate speech and incitement to violence against white people. well whites make up nine percent of south africa's population but they own more than seventy percent of private farmland efforts to reclaim much of that land without compensation have been launched by the government. our guests debate the situation in south africa including those controversial comments by julius malema. his comments still i think do hold certain underlying feelings of negativity towards white people still shows that you're trapped in their love and admiration of white people he has given political power to a white racist but when he speaks in f

or guess the debate or the situation in the country including julius malema as controversial remarks his comments still i think do hold certain. underlying feelings of negativity. towards white people and i do believe that mr malema he does have to have negative intentions towards the white people in south africa who want to obliterate want to end completely this system which is constructed to do white people on top and uplifting and exploiting black people who want to end up system so that to south africa is in the end of the black majority we construct a new society which take years off of black people will start pushing white people in fact white people can even leave if they want to the general ideology of julius malema where in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points. so why don't we needed a country thirty five thousand white families all eighty percent of the land we don't all want to speak to you as a black person in south africa i owed nothing i am in fact i think a tenant white people always did everyt

well i think you know two parts there are some parts certainly many supporters of julius malema sparty that have to say well we told you so we don't this is just the type of rhetoric we use and it certainly should not be ever taken is much more than that there's another opinion certainly from many legal people and people around issues of human rights to say i mean these type of statements are a board even though the south african human rights commission didn't find that constitutes hate speech but they did find it very offensive i have to ask yourself the question in the south african context so it's not hate speech but is offensive and offensive for a loan i think is is a very of things of turf to try and internalize even though mr malema claims not to have called for things like genocide and what have you his comments have still been quite extreme he has specifically if someone on the right wing were to say something like this about black people he would be sent to jail possibly for the comments that he's made we've seen examples of those they politically sympathize with mr malema or

julius malema is a leader of the economic freedom fighters party which argues that black south africans continue to face systematic discrimination was previously convicted of hate speech in two thousand and ten and eleven subsequently expelled from the african national congress the country's ruling party here are some of the statements that critics have claimed amount to incitement to violence against white people. why we don't care now. why not go out there might be why not according to you know the time i'm saying to you we're not called for the killing of wade people at least for now i come together to the future i don't want blacks to work for whites i want you to work for yourselves and white people will work for you that will be true freedom you must teach them how to carry babies on their back they must feel what our parents have been feeling we are not calling for white people to be killed but for white people to be our domestic workers. also reaction to this we're joined by south african talk show host ashraf garda who is also a co-founder of the champion south africa social mo

the do not meet the legal threshold to qualify is hate speech julius malema is the leader of the economic freedom fighters party which argues that black south africans continue to face systematic discrimination he was previously convicted of hate speech in two thousand and ten and twenty eleven and subsequently expelled from the ruling african national congress party here's some of the statements that critics have claimed amount to incitement to violence against white people. why do you want to tell. me why not go out there might be why don't you do you know what. i'm saying to you we're not called for the killing off way people at least for now i can go to the future i don't want blacks to work for whites i want you to work for yourselves and white people will work for you that will be true freedom you must teach them how to carry babies on their back they must feel what our parents have been feeling we are not calling for white people to be killed but for white people to be our domestic workers. and while the commentators we spoke to agree that malema is words are reprehensible they ult

the do not meet the legal threshold to qualify is eight speech julius malema is the leader of the economic freedom fighters party which argues that black south africans continue to face systematic discrimination he was previously convicted of hate speech in two thousand and ten and twenty eleven and subsequently expelled from the ruling african national congress party here are some of the statements that critics have claimed amount to incitement to violence against white people. why do you want to tell. me why not. there might be a why not according to you know the sign i'm saying to you we're not called for the killing of wade people at least for now i can gather to the future i don't want blacks to work for whites i want you to work for yourselves and white people will work for you that will be true freedom you must teach them how to carry babies on their back they must feel what our parents have been feeling we are not calling for white people to be killed before white people to be our domestic workers. all the commentators we spoke to agree that malema is words reprehensible they ultim

well i think you know to two parts there are some parts certainly many supporters of julius malema sponsor that have to say well we told you so we don't this is just the type of rhetoric we use and it certainly should not be ever taken is much more than that there's another opinion simply from many legal people and people around issues of human rights to say i mean these type of statements are a board even though the south african human rights commission didn't find that constitutes hate speech but they did find it very offensive you have to ask yourself the question in the south african context so it's not hate speech but is offensive and offensive for lol i think is is a very of things of to to try and internalize even though mr malema claims not to have called for things like genocide and what have you his comments have still been quite extreme he has specifically said that he is not yet calling for the slaughter of all white people if someone on the right wing were to say something like this about black people he would be sent to jail possibly for the comments that he's made we've seen

malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points. so why don't we needed a country thirty five thousand white families only eighty percent of the land we don't all want to speak to you as a black person in south africa i over nothing i am in fact i think a tenant white people always did everything therefore there is to me a reason for black people to be on the hippie about white presence or white oppression the government gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the idea that they are forced into lower positions is ridiculous the system in south africa is not a white supremacist system it is not a white dominated system the government is a black majority government. this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament's members are black and this is the white. house again thinking which is denied. by the way people like

the general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't one that want to obliterate you want to and completely this system which is constructed to do off white people on top and placing them exploiting black people the government gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the system in south africa is not a white supremacist system it is not a white dominated system so definitely so why do you mean a good country thirty five thousand white families only eighty percent of the land we don't own as i speak to you as a black person in south africa i owed nothing i am in fact i think that tenant white people always think everything the government is a black majority government. this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament's m

general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't wonder that one to obliterate one to completely this system which is close terms them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the system in south africa is not a white supremacist system it is not a white dominated system so definitely so why do you mean a good country thirty five thousand white families only eighty percent of the land we don't own i speak to you as a black person in south africa i owed nothing i am in fact i think a tenant white people over everything the government is a black majority government this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament members are is black but we can't even make laws that says we must take the land even these politicians controlled by mo

well i think you don't do two parts there are some parts certainly many supporters of julius malema sponsor that have to say well we told you so we don't this is just the type of rhetoric we use and it certainly should not be ever taken is much more than that there's another opinion simply from many legal people and people around issues of human rights to say i mean these type of statements are a board even though the south african human rights commission didn't find that constitutes hate speech but they did find it very offensive i have to ask yourself the question in the south african context so it's not hate speech but is offensive and offensive for lol i think is is a very of things of to to try and internalize even though mr malema claims not to have called for things like genocide and what have you his comments have still been quite extreme he has specifically said that he is not yet calling for the slaughter of all white people if someone on the right wing were to say something like this about black people he would be sent to jail possibly for the comments that he's made we've seen e

general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't wonder that want to obliterate you want to and completely this system which is constructed to do white people on top and not getting them exploiting black people the government gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the system in south africa is not a white supremacist system it is not a white dominated system so definitely so why do you mean a good country thirty five thousand white families only eighty percent of the land we don't own i speak to you as a black person in south africa i owed nothing i am in fact i think that tenant white people always think everything the government is a black majority government this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament members

but julius malema is the leader of the economic freedom fighters a far left party which is currently the third largest political force in south africa over the years malema has stirred national debate with his views on race and class he has twice been convicted of hate speech and inciting violence against white people and he was expelled from the governing party in two thousand and twelve for sowing division within the organization the apartheid policy in south africa and it more than two decades ago but the country is still struggling with division white people make up nine percent of south africa's population but own more than seventy percent of private farmland efforts to reclaim much of that land without compensation have already been launched by the government but both the problem and efforts to solve it are causing animosity across the board. general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't wonder that one

malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of opposition we don't wonder that one to obliterate one two and. completely this system which is constructed to do white people on top and uplifting and exploiting black people the government gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the system in south africa is not a white supremacist system it is not a white dominated system so definitely so why do you mean a good country thirty five thousand white families only eighty percent of the land we don't own i speak to you as a black person in south africa i over nothing i am in fact i think the tenant white people do everything the government is a black majority government this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament members are black and this is the white. look at.

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the do not need to believe go finish will qualify as heat speech well julius malema is a leader of the economic freedom fighters party which argues that black south africans continue to face systemic discrimination he's previously been convicted of hate speech in twenty twelve he was expelled from the african national congress the country's ruling party it was some of his statements that have caused controversy. i don't want blacks to work for whites i want you to work for yourselves and white people will work for you that will be true freedom you must teach them how to carry babies on their back they must feel what our parents have been feeling we are not calling for white people to be killed but for white people to be our domestic workers why don't we want to know. why not. why not. seem to were not called for the killing off way people at least for now are going to go to the future. to discuss the court's decision we have south african political analysts tell of its thanks for joining us so good to have in the program today no indication of hate speech found according to the commiss

the general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't wonder you want to obliterate you want to end completely this system which is constructed to do white people on top and placing them exploiting black people the government gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the system in south africa is not a white supremacist system it is not a white dominated system so definitely so why do you mean a good country thirty five thousand white families only eighty percent of the land we don't own i speak to you as a black person in south africa i owed nothing i am in fact i think that tenant white people always think everything the government is a black majority government this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament members a

julius malema is the leader of the economic freedom fighters a far left party which is currently the third largest political force in south africa over the years has stirred a national debate with his views on race and class he has twice been convicted of hate speech and inciting violence against white people and he was expelled from the governing a.n.c. party in two thousand and twelve for selling division within the organization. and the apartheid policy in south africa and did more than two decades ago but the country is still struggling with division white people make up nine percent of south africa's population but own more than seventy percent of private farmland efforts to reclaim much of that land without compensation has already been launched by the government but both the problem and efforts to solve it are causing animosity across the board. general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't one that wa

well i think you know two parts there are some parts certainly many supporters of julius malema sparty that fair to say well we told you so we don't this is just the type of rhetoric we use and it certainly should not be ever taken is much more than that there's another opinion simply from many legal people and people around issues of human rights to say i mean these type of statements all aboard even though the south african human rights commission didn't find that constitutes hate speech but they did find it very offensive you have to ask yourself the question in the south african context so it's not hate speech but is offensive and offensive put lol i think is is a very of prince of term to try and internalize even though mr malema claims not to have called for things like genocide and what have you his comments have still been quite extreme he has specifically said that he is not yet to say something like this about black people he would be sent to jail possibly for the comments that he's made we've seen examples of this i am baffled as to why they came to this conclusion either it

white people to be our domestic workers julius malema is the leader of the economic freedom fighters a far left party which is currently the third largest political force in south africa over the years national debate with his views on race and class he's twice been convicted of hate speech and inciting violence against white people and he was expelled from the governing party in two thousand and twelve for sowing division within the organization the apartheid policy in south africa ended more than two decades ago but the country is still struggling with racism white people make up just nine percent of south africa's population but only more than seventy percent of private farmland efforts to reclaim much about without compensation have already been launched by the government but the problem and efforts to solve it according animosity across the board. the general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't wonder

the general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't one that want to obliterate you want to and completely this system which is constructed to do white people on top and uplifting and exploiting black people in the government it gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the system in south africa is not a white supremacist system it is not a white dominated system so definitely so why do you mean a good country. thirty five thousand white families own eighty percent of the land we don't own as i speak to you as a black person in south africa i almost think i am in fact i think a tenant white people always think everything the government is a black majority government this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament memb

general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't wonder you want to obliterate you want to end completely this system which is constructed to do white people on top and not producing and exploiting black people the government gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the system in south africa is not a white supremacist system it is not a white dominated system so definitely so why do you mean a good country thirty five thousand white families only eighty percent of the land we don't own i speak to you as a black person in south africa i owed nothing i am in fact i think a tenant white people over everything the government is a black majority government this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament members are black

well i think you know to two parts there are some parts certainly many supporters of julius malema sponsor that fair to say well we told you so we don't this is just the type of rhetoric we use and it certainly should not be ever taken is much more than that there's another opinion simply from many legal people and people around issues of human rights to say i mean these type of statements all aboard even though the south african human rights commission didn't find that constitutes hate speech but they did find it very offensive you have to ask yourself the question in the south african context so it's not hate speech but is offensive and offensive for lol i think is is a very of things of to to try and internalize even though mr malema claims not to have called for things like genocide and what have you his comments have still been quite extreme he has specifically said that he is not yet calling for the slaughter of all white people if someone on the right wing were to say something like this about black people he would be sent to jail possibly for the comments that he's made we've seen

general ideology of julius malema in he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't wonder you want to obliterate you want to end completely this system which is constructed to do white people on top and not producing and exploiting black people the government gives them opportunities through the black economic empowerment it gives them opportunities it incentivizes businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the system in south africa is not a white supremacist thirty five thousand white families all eighty percent of the land we don't all want to speak to you as a black person in south africa i over nothing i am in fact i think that tenant white people always think everything the government is a black majority government this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament members are black and this is the white. thinking it is true what i meant is is black but we

the general ideology of julius malema wherein he he likes to try and create this sort of clash between races in south africa in order to gain political points he just want to replace white people in a position of oppression we don't wonder that one to obliterate one to completely this system which is constructed to do off white people on top and uplifting and exploiting black people the government gives them opportunities as businesses to hire them in higher positions it is easier for them to enter into higher education into universities the system in south africa is not a white supremacist system it is not a white dominated system so definitely so why do you mean a good country thirty five thousand white families own eighty percent of the land we don't own as i speak to you as a black person in south africa i over nothing i am in fact i think a tenant white people always think everything the government is a black majority government this is a simple fact you cannot deny that majority of parliament members are black and this is the white. thinking it is true but i meant is is black but

malema had said he was not quote calling for the slaughter of white people yet. came to the conclusion that while the ex this subject of these complaints may be quite offensive. they do not meet illegal facial qualify as hate speech. all jew is malema is the leader of the economic freedom fighters party which argues that black south africans continue to face discrimination is previously convicted of hate speech in two thousand and ten and two thousand and eleven and subsequently expelled from the ruling african national congress party here are some of the statements that critics have claimed amount to incitement to violence against white people. why you really want to tell. me why not but. it might be why not according to you know the signs seem to work for not called for the killing off way of people at least for now i can go to the future i don't want blacks to work for whites i want you to work for yourselves and white people will work for you that will be true freedom you must teach them how to carry babies on their back they must feel what our parents have b