how do you approach the assad dilemma? >> this is a very difficult question and i like how your report, i encourage you, you did a good job to weigh out the six policy options. and your second policy option which is what the current administration is focusing on will stabilizing areas that are under our orbit. i think it is one of the feasible things. adding to that is a maximum pressure campaign and i know the administration is working towards. i think that is an important thing to task on. and that is policy op shun number two. is unethical to go back and treat the assad regime as though it never happened. besides it being moral and ethical, it won't meet the interests that all three of us have laid out, the u.s. critical interests in terms of preventing he rise of extremism and i wanted to start of by going -- giving you an overview, if we were to free syria today what it would look like. so you have -- and i wrote this before. the g.d.p. has shrunk by 4/5's. the public revenues has gone .rom 23% to 3% of the country's

it's impossible to promote the -- to go back entry the assad regime -- and treat the assad regime as though the past eight years did not happen. it absolutely won't even meet the interests that all three of us have laid out, in terms of having a stable region, extremism the rise of , preventing potentially another uprising from happening. i wanted to start off by giving you an overview. if we were to leave everything, if we were to free syria today, what it would look like if we were to walk or and leave it as is. i wrote this in a piece that i published recently. the gdp has shock but for fits /5 of what it was in 2010. the little rock has depreciated -- the lira has appreciated by 459 -- depreciated by 459%. the damage is estimated to be 400 billion. we are talking about homes people cannot return to. serious business community had largely -- all of the current construction efforts we have seen, these lavish, disney world type buildings and high-rises and entertainment projects, you have a bedroom that costs half $1 million, something completely out of reach for the average syrian,

and that assad seems to have won on the ground. i'd like to ask you to start us off, what is your perspective and what is the u.s. interest in syria and what is the way forward. >> i would sigh three things, the ct element. whether you're talking about isis or other jihadists. the second is the possibility of rival in the syrian conflict. even if you don't care about syria, if syria is not an interest is not seen as an interest or threat, i think if you're interested in iraq and syria, it's related to that, especially the eastern part of syria, which is about 1/3 of syria or more. now we just heard isis just release a statement, a video showing al baghdadi for the first time since he declared the califate in 2014. he looks very healthy fp despite the report in recently over the past two years, saying and concluding from defectors and people captured by the iraqis, who said he was ailing, he's sick, slim, it wasn't like what he appeared -- how he appeared in 2014. i think he looks exactly like he appeared in 2014, except he grew a l

>> she's the presidential candidate and iraq war veteran who infamously met with syria's bashar al-assad, this week on "firing line." a soldier, a hindu, and a. ma tulsi gabbard de waves when she arrived in congress. now the millennial from hawaii has her sights set onth white house. she says her campaign is focused on war and peace. >> every one of us is paying the price for these regime-change. wa >> her critics say she can sound more like president trump than a progressive democrat. >> i believe trump said something similar when he was running. did he not? am i wrong about that? >> he may have, but the problem is has not carried through. wi and some want to know why she took that meetin a brutal dictator. >> you got some heat for meeting with bashar al-ass. do you not consider him a war criminal? why did you meet with that man?h >> ipursuit of peace. >> what does tulsi gabbard say now? >> "firing line with margaret hoover" is made possible by... corporate funding is provided by... and by... >> welcome to "firing line," tulsi gabbard, and a you are an iraq war veteran. you are a four-t

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not hack in order to acquire that now in addition to being accused of being a russian asset julian assad has been referred to as being an enemy by a number of u.s. officials the united states do something to stop mr sausage we're looking into that right now he should be treated as an enemy combatant which he really should be closed down permanently indecisively this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states the guy ought to be and i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty want to do it illegally shoot the son of a this is a man of this combo young anything i'm aware of ignorance or misplaced idealism is no longer an acceptable excuse for lionizing these demons at this point julia songes not any more in the ecuadorian embassy and london at this point he has been turned over to u.k. officials he is in their custody now the question remains will he be extradited to the united states many observers speculate that if you come to see ited states he could be facing a lot more than simply this conspiracy of computer intrusion charge that.

officials who have referred to julian assad as an enemy of the united states let's review what they've said. the united states do something to stop mr sausage we're looking into that right now and he should be treated as an enemy combatant which should be closed down permanently and decisively this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states the guy ought to be and i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty want to do it illegally shoot the son of a this is a man of this comb beyond anything i am aware own ignorance or misplaced idealism is no longer an acceptable excuse for lionizing these demons now at this point we have julian assange in the hands of u.k. officials but it remains to be seen whether or not he'll be extradited to the united states now many observers say that if he comes the united states he may be facing a lot more than simply this this conspiracy to commit computer intrusion charge this possible five year sentence that that there could be a lot more waiting for him in the united states once he's in the hands of u

guys in your world if in fact julian assad did what the united states government said he did to now no one's talking about the death penalty i know it's talking even about life in prison that right now the indictment under the charges he faces it would be five years in prison the u.s. plans to step on him and to make sure that try to make sure that nobody else ever does with wiki leaks and julian assange and he's going to be punished it's not going to be five years it's going to be the rest of his life if in fact julian massage did what the united states government said he did he to now no one's talking about the death penalty and no one's talking even about life imprisonment right now the indictment under the charges he faces that would be five years in prison but they're especially upset about is the you tube of the of the people. the groaners killing people laughing about it yucking it up so much fun and then doing what they did with the mafia calls a double tap where they would kill some people then wait till the rescue was came and then they all yanked it up about killing the resc

it's important to note that essentially you know assad there is an effort to extradite him now from the u.s. department of justice we have a statement from the eastern district of virginia where they are essentially calling for for the extradition of julian assange for on charges of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion the indictment alleges that a songe coordinated with chelsea manning and together they tried to crack a password in order to get a defense department information that was classified which wiki leaks eventually published chelsea manning is in the hands of u.s. officials at this time being held and it's important to review what this information that chelsea manning was able to provide to wiki leaks actually contained let's review some of that information. i'm. not a doctor but if you're going to. does the n.s.a. collect any data the millions of new sort of. wiki leaks walks like a hostile intelligence or talks like a hot potato serve. at this point it's important to note that a number of u.s. intelligence officials have declared that wiki leaks is a basically they referr

a two thousand and twelve charge of failing to surrender to the court and right on cue proving that assad and his supporters were not conspiracy theorists or just being paranoid these last seven years the united states justice department unsealed their charges against the wiki leaks founder announcing that a songe was arrested by u.k. authorities so that he could be extradited to the united states to face a federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break. password to a classified u.s. government computer the charges you see stem from massages roll and whistleblower chelsea manning's massive leak of thousands upon thousands of iraq and afghanistan war reports along with over two hundred thousand state department cables in response to the arrest whistleblower edward snowden tweeted. critics may cheer but this is a dark moment for press freedom. i couldn't agree more with mr snowden and i'd like to add that as a taxpaying citizen of the united states i am deeply ashamed of my government's actions against mr assad who like him or not is ultimately practicing th

is the standoff began in twenty ten when assad was accused of rape and molestation by two women after a conference in sweden that same year his wiki leaks website a whistleblowing platform became a household name after it circulated footage of an american air strike in baghdad the attack killed two journalists the video appeared to show troops firing an unarmed man and washington was investigating the leaks when sweden issued an arrest warrant for the alleged sex crimes a songe surrendered to police in london and was granted bail. the following year a british court ruled he should be extradited to sweden but a songe feared this would be used as a pretext to extradite him to the us. i have not been charged with any crime in any country. despite the european arrest for its third restrictive that it prevents u.k. courts from considering the facts of a case in two thousand and twelve he applied for and was granted political asylum at the ecuadorian embassy in london on human rights grounds. i think president correia for the carriage is showing in considering ending granting political asyl

point where the astronomy of mr assad regime is unsustainable are no longer viable really kind of boils down to two different issues but it sort of came together over the past eighteen months one is that the ecuadorian authorities didn't like the fact that they said julian assange two is interfering in the international affairs in the affairs of other countries through his online activities through his activities as editor of wiki leaks but also there was this kind of domestic dispute bubbling beneath the surface as well last year julian assange was given a list of conditions that he needed to add here to you know if he wanted to stay on the good side of his the ecuadorian hosts he was told they needed to tidy up after himself clean his policy and pay for his own food to pay for his own one tree cleanup after his talents which they threaten term leave and subsequently did this will ation ship really break down and that's what led to the culmination of this situation at this boiling point this morning when the ecuadorian authorities allowed the met police to walk in and arrest julian ass

several thousand kilometers north another assad sling tact of us to sitting in jail a u.s. federal appeals court has denied chelsea manning bail after she was arrested once again in march and for what refusing to testify in court against a sandwich it seems like any connection to wiki leaks can get you in jail so if you've ever rubbed elbows with julian a songe it might be better to keep quiet about it written spy agency juicy excuse under fire after warning web users cyber security choices will be restricted to do more to take the burden of cybersecurity over the way from the individual in particular we will work closely with device manufacturers and online platform providers to build security into their products and services at the design stage certainly flemming made the comments at the first u.k. event to feature all five members of the world's largest intelligence alliance called five eyes so it up of the u.s. canada the u.k. australia and new zealand also discussed the safety of five g. technologies with washington pressing our eyes to ditch chinese participation in i

officials have referred to julian assad as an enemy or the enemy let's review what u.s. officials have said about the founder of wiki leaks. the united states do something to stop mr sausage we're looking into that right now he should be treated as an enemy combatant we should be closed down permanently indecisively this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states the guy ought to be and i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty want to do it illegally shoot the son of a this is a man of this comb beyond anything i am aware on ignorance or misplaced idealism is no longer an acceptable excuse for lionizing these demons. and now at this point we have julian a songe in the hands of the u.k. officials and we have the u.s. attorney general's office the u.s. department of justice seeking his extradition to the united states on charges of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion and the person he is alleged to have conspired with chelsea manning remains in the hands of u.s. officials as well so all eyes are on britain at th

there have been a number of voices that have spoken up against the possible extradition of julian assad is warning about the impact it could have on civil liberties now among those voices was a congresswoman from a hole why a name is tossing gabbert and in addition to being a congresswoman she is also a presidential contender in twenty twenty she spoke up saying that the possible chill effect and impact on american civil liberties from this case would not be small this is a threat to journalists but it's also something that threatens every american because the message that we're getting that the american people are getting by what's happened here today is you know be quiet toed the line otherwise there will be consequences now the american civil liberties union is one of the oldest civil rights and civic freedom organizations in the united states has taken many cases to the u.s. supreme court it has represented journalists as well as activists and others who are trying to expand the level of freedom of speech and freedom of the press they have also spoken up regarding the wiki leaks cas

spoke to the former president of ecuador who granted assad's asylum. thinks the country's current leadership is out for revenge. yes you know maybe. i think marino deserves the title of the greatest traitor of history there he could compete with judas the state of ecuador cordons with international law and guided by his own national pride was simply obliged to protect the person to whom it is granted asylum and instead they simply gave him up and allowed the british police to enter our embassy just imagine for a moment if it was the ecuadorian police entering the us embassy at the head it was a decision made by him or a no no he wants revenge for having been accused of corruption or because wiki leaks released documents proving it not to mention other evidence like correspondence bills etc all now online so marina is taking revenge on a sandwich and i think the consequences will be even harder because although i don't want to look ahead to the possibility that the u.k. will not extradite julian assange to the united states it is very unlikely. the unit

it would mean that one day assad could appear before a tribunal. the russians use their veto. for those who support bashar assad cesar's photos did not prove that these crimes were committed by the baathist regime. which. suggest if you don't slow enough. you have the community fully didn't see any bullshit this is. good news i may be a fair play beloved but if you went to the old misc group or do you foresee wisco board day for the year. but you do and i forgot to say. that. you have clearly. another shot i am a sore neck and for you know and the words we make them and you will get on the whole feet will. be muscly that are danny and measure me and the most willing to you know how to hold up. your own will come and they will you know what i look like across the u.s. into connecticut and i've been with them i don't how many of those them up and they know that the my book. the international community has been powerless since the start of the conflict in syria in june twenty fourth teen the islamic state in iraq and the levant isis announced the creation of an islamic caliphate

bashar al assad's crimes were being pushed into the background. this happened in spite of the thousands of civilians who were killed by his forces in july twenty fourth two months after the russian veto the syrian opposition attempted to resurrect caesar still seeing. this time they went to the u.s. congress which opposed the military intervention in syria even after the chemical attacks and. a group of republican supported us intervention. evan mcmullan a member of the commission of foreign affairs arranged for caesar the photographer to be interviewed in front of members of congress. we knew that most people in the united states didn't know of us its mass atrocities and the idea was that if americans understood more what exactly atsic was doing if they really understood they would have much more sympathy and they would expect i believe our leaders to do more and especially the president who is our commander in chief and who leads our foreign policy to do more to act to stop assad's. trustees. caesar was in hiding afraid of being captured by the

professor of political science at zeit university in the west bank assad says the shift to the right in israeli politics is being facilitated by geo political factors. the whole israeli public is demanding more to us that i hate that i tunes out of florida sheen and the other reason which is equally important we are talking about around between seven hundred thousand two hundred thousand settlers in the west bank and those that have a huge influence on the israeli parties and all disarray to society itself so the tendency towards the right tendency for more violence against the palestinians is a quite natural thing know what days we got this with elections or not the elections but with elections it would appear more to gain the support of the right wing and set the votes so they have to show that they are tougher than even the government this is part of sometimes the hypocrisy of the international community is quite clear that when we are talking specially about europe they said it quite clearly oh what interest as europeans with the americas is far more important to us than the huma

several thousand kilometers north another assad sling tact of us to sitting in jail a u.s. federal appeals court has denied chelsea manning bail after she was arrested once again in march and for what refusing to testify in court against a sarge it seems like any connection to wiki leaks can get you in jail so if you've ever rubbed elbows with julian a songe it might be better to keep quiet about it inspired c g c h q is under fire after warning web users cyber security choices will be restricted. to do more to take the burden of cybersecurity overweighed from the individual in particular we will work closely with device manufacturers and online platform providers to build security into their products and services at the design stage. jeremy fleming that made the comments of the first u.k. event to feature all five members of the world's largest intelligence alliance called five ice it's made up of the u.s. canada the u.k. australia and new zealand there's to discuss the safety of five g. technologies with washington pressing its allies to ditch chinese participation in its

really it's wrong because the french media the french journalist should have defended assad from the beginning but they don't do it because in don't remember that we was ashamed because we stopped the plane the president plane because we were sinking that is going to take your to take assad with him saw again there is as you say in some countries supposed to follow this. not only for britain but as well for france not doing anything to try to protect which is to push to be the ground of. their values but they don't live up to their own values at the same time here alex it's you're a lawyer it seems to me that video jay is there just rather jazzing how to create a legal strategy again it is this is a hostile prosecution it is not based on facts that we know i mean talk about transparency that is that synonymous with the we keep leaks transparency i don't see the same kind of transparency from the prosecution go ahead what they did exactly and one of the things that absolutely astonished me is that you see so many journalists around the world cheering this prosecution on because at the

transgression of international treaties who have led the situation to a point where the a sort of mr assad regime is unsustainable there are no longer the horrible really kind of boils down to two different issues but you sort of came together over the past eighteen months one is that the ecuadorian authorities didn't like the fact that they said julian assange once was interfering in the international affairs in the uk as of all the countries through his online activity through his activities as editor of wiki leaks but also there was this kind of domestic dispute bubbling beneath the surface as well last year julian assange was given a list of conditions that he needed to adhered to if he wanted to stay on the good side of his neck for dorrian hosts he was told they needed to tidy up offer him self between his policy and pay for his. food to pay for said norton three clean up after his talents which they threaten term leave and subsequently did this will a ship really break down and that's what led to the culmination of this situation at this boiling point this morning when the ecuadoria

that's because for years assad was at the helm of website which reveal damaging classified information about washington and its intelligence services and has more on how the rest is being perceived on the other side of the atlantic. there have been a number of voices that have spoken up against the possible extradition of julian assad is warning about the impact it could have on civil liberties now among those voices was a congresswoman from a hole why a name is tossing gabber and in addition to being a congresswoman she is also a presidential contender in twenty twenty she spoke up saying that the possible chill effect and impact on american civil liberties from this case would not be small this is a threat to journalists but it's also something that threatens every american because the message that we're getting that the american people are getting by what's happened here today is you know be quiet toed the line otherwise there will be consequences now the american civil liberties union is one of the oldest civil rights and civic freedom organizations in the united states has taken m

the moment in which racial religious and ethnic tensions are high that is a global condemnation after assad to arabia executes dozens of men more on that story after this break. join me every thursday on the alec simon show and i'll be speaking to us of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. after the previous stage of my career was over everyone wondered what i was going to do next. different clubs on one hand it is logical to go from fields where everything is familiar on the other i wanted a new challenge and a fresh perspective i'm used to surprising. one i'll tell you. i'm going to talk about football not the or else you think i was going to do. by the way what is the fly here. welcome back to the program international human rights groups have condemned a series of executions in saudi arabia this week thirty seven men mostly reportedly from muslim shia minority were killed on quote terror and violence related charges one buddy has even been strung up in public following his execution human rights watch states the killings mark an alarming escalation

various mandarins on capitol hill about years to gestate hatred or want for revenge against putin assad they say he's really wanted for hacking a computer what do you really think your face. i think that's basically the upfront charge that doesn't carry any death penalty or anything so that people could easily agree to it and then extradite him to the united states once he gets here they can add any number of charges in secret or in public against him the the point is that they have if they're talking about and saying they have classified information collected by n.s.a. or cia then they can keep that out of sight of the public and even the defense lawyers and handle it with the judge in secret and convict him in secret that way so i mean that's one of the ways to do it the other ways does it add more charges on once he gets here. whatever the appetite for bits are eventually it's going to be extremely scrutinized in the public arena as it would really go that fall within . i don't i wouldn't put anything past them this is the shadow government the secret government involved and they're

extradition plans have nothing to do with the strain they were supporters of assad have had protests in sydney with the australian journalists union voicing its strong support for him assad is currently being held in custody in london but he is wanted in the u.s. on charges of revealing classified information his future has ignited a fierce debate after he was arrested at the ecuadorian embassy in london where he had taken refuge in two thousand and twelve police strong armed a song out of the ecuadorian embassy in london handcuffed and protesting the bearded wiki leaks founder resisted leaving his refuge of almost seven years the arrest comes one day after wiki leaks accused the ecuadorian government of spying on a song secretly filming his meetings with lawyers and a doctor inside the embassy. ecuador had clearly had enough of the controversial guest in london accusing him of interfering in its foreign policies and violating the rules of asylum. it will be in the bottom a lot and in the next few hours the government will reveal some details of which the world is not yet aware that

looking at mr assad health pearson's you know and he's frail you know any. of us already landed on soil so i don't want to torture. will you and the rest of his team be pushing the argument that he's already you know defacto been imprisoned for more than the maximum five years he could possibly face for the charges against him. the u.n. . human arming group arbitrary detention oh i don't actually have to go on which are the opinion that mr solomon in effect in order to really change ecuador and this. you know why one key point here is you know with the u.s. government. traditionary actually acknowledge that it's already spent seven years it's hard to change and you know taking that into account. you know if you instructed us. which is more than the five years you know that it's you turks are. now back in two thousand and fifteen julian songe was asked a question about whether he would trade places with edward snowden he said he would quite clearly do you think he would have been in a better position now if he had asked russia for asylum. i mean the two choic

transgression of international treaties who have led the situation to a point where the stardom of mr assad regime is unsustainable there are no longer the horrible really kind of boils down to two different issues but you sort of came together over the past eighteen months one is that the ecuadorian authorities didn't like the fact that they said julian assange once was interfering in the international affairs in the affairs of other countries through his online activity through his activities as editor of wiki leaks but also there was this kind of domestic dispute bubbling beneath the surface as well last year julian assange was given a list of conditions that he needed to adhered to if he wanted to stay on the good side of his neck for dorrian hosts he was told they needed to tidy up offer him self between his policy and pay for his own food to pay for certain one three cleanup after his talents which they threaten term leave and subsequently did this in the relationship really broke. and that's what led to the culmination of this situation at this boiling point this morning when the ecu

for hosts but actually it's wrong because the french media the french journalist should have defended assad from the beginning but they don't do it because in don't remember that we france was ashamed because we stopped the plane the president plane because we were sinking that is going to take to take assad with him saw again there is as you say there is a u.s. umpire and payoff. we are all some countries to. to follow this. not only for britain but as well for france not doing anything to try to protect which is supposed to be the grant of western civilization is a freedom of speech and the freedom to what we're seeing it is true it's absolutely right i mean the us likes and its allies like to export their values but they don't live up to their own values at the same time here alex it's you're a lawyer it seems to me that video jay is they're just saying how to create a legal strategy again there it is this is a hostile prosecution it is not based on facts that we know i mean talk about transparency and that is that synonymous with the we keep leaks transparency i don't see the same kind

expert in cyber security and also a digital privacy advocate it was attained just hours after julian assads was arrested in the ecuadorian embassy in london many shots with hacking computer systems in the country as father told us his son's rights were violated. you didn't get to talk too slow or in the right turn and didn't get to me to call in the right and there was so many wrong things that were gone evidence is that one book of noam chomsky that he has a lot of memory sticks and her and there's not enough to arrest the person meanwhile human rights activist says there's no proof of all beings guilt of a number of celebrities activists of politicians have signed an open letter to the swedish government calling it to help free the program all quarter picks up the story. seems being friends with julian a sonship might just cost you your freedom as the wiki leaks co-founder was dragged into the back of a british police van another hacktivists shared a similar fate all of being he was arrested on the same day allegedly for working with assad inch for several years now one of the key members

constitution do you see the the rights of a free press being threatened if and when assad goes on trial in the u.s. . i think it's one aspect of it i mean in the american context where i am at the moment and there is this whole debate it's about what donald trump is delayed by attacking the media in general and i think this i don't see this is donald trump trying to attract someone to weaken leaks directly because at one point it was terribly convenient and this is the problem this is why it is so cool that the rule of law exists and why it in america the first amendment is respected and because that's the defense it's not whether the president should be allowed to see community city or journalism it's the journalists and and the right it's really important to write the journalists sometimes to break the rules even separate the law or if it's in the wider public interest and that's kind of a paradox which you know the courts are there to try and tussle out president trump was asked today about the arrest of julian a songe i'd like for you to take a listen to what he said and also to the

justice department and says that that charge could carry up to five years in prison if mr assad is found guilty here in the united states on that count so what is new in all of this is that mr saunders is being accused of breaking in to a computer essentially cracking the password to release that documents it's worth noting of course that normally in the united states a journalist is not prosecuted for releasing classified information but many people now are questioning mr song his role as a journalist there asking whether he's gone from being a publisher to someone who has partnered with foreign governments for example when you look at the twenty sixteen release of democratic e-mails and involvement with russia there aren't helena humphrey reporting from washington thank you very much. and turning to our other breaking news story now the army has seized power in sudan's president omar al bashir has been ousted and arrested on today's dramatic developments bring to an end thirty years of autocratic rule in a televised statement to the country's defense minister announced a two year long

extradition haring to be held on may the second debate over whether the we could weeks student assad is a criminal or a journalist is continuing to heat up in the us in fact all the americas done cohen himself had a heated exchange with some politicians he has his first hand account. well the house foreign affairs committee tweeted democrat eliot engels statement in support of julian assange just prosecutions saying he is in fact a tool of lattimer putin and the russian intelligence service know there's never been any evidence that proves let alone suggest a connection between we q leaks and the russian state or russian intelligence furthermore we can actually published embarrassing information not only about the united states and its allies but also about russia we can expose files series revealed more than two hundred documents about russian surveillance contractors so i responded with a tweet saying angle statement is an endorsement of president trump's attack on press freedom and i called it absolutely reprehensible now the house foreign affairs committee came back at me tweeting

really it's wrong because the french media the french journalist should have defended assad from the beginning but they don't do it because in don't remember that we france was ashamed because we stopped the plane the president plane because we were sinking that is going to take to take assad with him saw again there is as you say there is a u.s. umpire and payoff. we are all some countries supposed to follow this. not only for britain but for france not doing anything to try to protect which is to push to be the graunt of western civilization is the freedom of speech and the freedom to work with it's true it's absolutely right i mean the u.s. likes and its allies like to export their values but they don't live up to their own values at the same time here. it's you're a lawyer it seems to me that video jay is just radicalizing how to create a legal strategy again it is a this is a hostile prosecution it is not based on facts that we know i mean talk about transparency that is that synonymous with the we keep leaks transparency i don't see the same kind of transparency from the prosec

officials have repeatedly called for assad to be prosecuted for publishing classified material including intelligence and military files but assad has supporters say he is doing crucial work and must be protected. the mother of the feel of it it's not possible to mistreat someone this way just because he revealed by their village and powerful people and as a publisher he has revealed all kinds of human rights violations war crimes are misinformation needs to get out united states says that they're defending democracy around the world and they're not just bending democracy at all in the united states is is. trying to silence people the good of them are revealing what's happening and julian the signage is just that the person who made it possible for those people to be heard much has changed in ecuador since i was granted asylum almost seven years ago including relations with washington artie's it would be trying to go comments. thank you for the gracious welcome you have shown to be my wife sharon on our very first visit to ecuador we are huge and they should treat you nice. and what a be

advocate he is reportedly linked to wiki leaks and was detained just hours after whistleblower joined assad was arrested in the ecuadorian embassy in london earlier this month we spoke to all. father. didn't get to talk to slower in the right time and he didn't. get to me to console in the right time and there was so many wrong things that were done their evidence is that one book of noam chomsky and us that he has a lot of memory sticks and that is all that have and that is not enough to arrest the person human rights activists say there's no proof of all of beanies guilty and a number of celebrity activists and politicians have signed an open letter to the swedish government calling for help to free the programmer years artie's done a quarter. seems being friends with julian a sonship might just cost you your freedom as the wiki leaks co-founder was dragged into the back of a british police van another hacktivists shared a similar fate all of being he was arrested on the same day allegedly for working with assad and for several years now one of the key members of the week you leaks in a p

issued a formal request for extradition washington accuses assad of conspiring with the united states an indictment alleges that together with chelsea manning a former intelligence analyst in the us army cracked a government password in access classified documents if convicted he could face up to five years in prison is a look back at wiki leaks major publications over the years. ult. how much. to lose. the touch. to look. like we're going to kill. kill kill does he say collect any data from the millions of those who are multiple he walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile takeover of service. from a british m.p. george galloway. in the song face strike but also journalism as we know it. don't have to like um you don't have to like everything he's ever written or published but if you like the fact that we have the right to speak and to know often uncomfortable truths to our rulers don't want us to know then you should be here in person or at least in spirit because if julian our search is criminalized and incarcerated for revealing the truth then you might as

expert in cyber security and also a digital privacy advocate he was detained just hours after julian assad was arrested in the ecuadorian embassy in london being is charged with hacking computer systems in the country his father told us his son's rights were violated. you didn't get to talk too slow you were in the right turn and didn't get to me to call so in the right and there are so many wrong things that were gone the evidence is that one book of noam chomsky that he has a lot of memory sticks and hold her and there's not enough to arrest the person meanwhile the human rights activist says there's no proof of all albany's guilt and a number of celebrities activists and politicians have also signed an open letter to the swedish government calling it to help free the program one quarter picks up on the story. seems being friends with julian a sonship might just cost you your freedom as the wiki leaks co-founder was dragged into the back of a british police van another hacktivists shared a similar fate all of beanie was arrested on the same day allegedly for working with assad's for seve

charge only holds the potential for five years in prison it remains to be seen whether or not julian assad will be extradited to the united states where many speculate he could face much more serious charges than simply the computer hacking charge controller see brewing over the arrest i was doing in the studio by our correspondent for more on the case. there is a rest i should say has clearly showcased how much of a divisive figure has become he's got an army of supporters on one hand he's got an army of his own the other one but really with the like humanoid he's won multiple awards for his journalism and that's why some of the most the most vocal bunch i should say were journalists activists and the whistleblower was who have stepped forward and will boost his support to julian and one of the loudest voices in this quiet was edward snowden a fellow whistleblower who is who was granted asylum and who is still in russia who doesn't seem to be moving him anywhere anytime soon but he has been very vocal along with some other journalists and whistleblowers have a list. images of like with th

a taxpaying citizen of the united states i am deeply ashamed of my government's actions against mr assad who like him or not is ultimately practicing the art of good journalism but in these times when our most important rights like freedom of press are being threatened. we need to be watching the hawks. it looks. like i got. in time to have a while i said joining us now to discuss the arrest of mr. is the author of management of savagery max thank you for joining us good to be here wow merrick so i want to start just asking you you know this other grew up about ten million women time five this morning you know what was your reaction the moment you heard this news that the woman was drugged out and the rest of them well i just remember myself saying under my breath they finally did it and you know wiki leaks has been posting images of you know snatch and grab teams undercover outside the embassy while people were kind of you know more mainstream journalists were mocking the rest of us for saying that there was a sealed indictment over the years and at the gray zone the website i run we re

the transgression of international treaties have led the situation to a point where the asylum of mr assad regime is unsustainable are no longer viable the ecuadorian authorities didn't like the fact that they said julian assange and was interfering in the international affairs in the affairs of other countries through his online activity through his activities this editor of wiki leaks but also there was this kind of domestic disputes bubbling beneath the surface as well last year julian assange was given a list of conditions that he needed to add here to if he wanted to stay on the good side of his the ecuadorian hosts he was told they needed to tidy up after himself between his bar pay for his own food to pay for certain on three clean up after his talents which they threaten term leave and subsequently did british officials are pretty pleased about what's happened we'll welcome the news this morning that the metropolitan police have arrested judy in a sorry. mr speaker this goes to show that in the united kingdom no one is above the law but what we've shown today is that no one is abov

that could not be crossed the united states had promised to intervene if there was proof that bashar assad was using chemical weapons the following day the u.s. president spoke to the press ibrahim was convinced that the course of the war would change what we now have is evidence that chemical weapons have been used inside of syria but we don't know. how they were used when they were used who used them we don't have a chain of. custody that establishes what exactly happened. and i back in the one night or so i feel that a bit just from a metal mean keefe. but they'd been in job either less in the. name and didn't. make you feel. in the short list for the surface or. brahim was determined to reconstruct the whole incident piece by piece he went to the house of many. the only victim killed during the attack. here is that all. this is the old roach story just this gate from the sky and many of us here and here duff there also was in the journal just around here so there is the burden it's really well known about muffin and. if the shift in looking over there will work in any order a new. mode

only holds the potential for five years in prison it remains to be seen whether or not julian assad will be extradited to the united states where many speculate he could face much more serious charges than simply the computer hacking charge we discussed the whistleblowers arrest with author lou rockwell and political commentator steve malzberg. we have a country here called the united states of america he compromise sources and methods and diplomats put people at risk you can accept this as a nation you must prosecute these people and subject them to the fullest penalties the law allows the store to see that mr trump who praised him so many times during the two thousand and sixteen election is now claims he never heard of him never read so we can weeks we're not supposed to know what our government does spied on all the unbelievably evil things that the u.s. government does i'm sorry to say that that's true but the u.s. government is by the way a force not a force for good in the world anymore if it ever was have you ever worn a uniform sir let's let first what i'd like to see every sing

for anyone in ecuador or elsewhere to just know mr sachs several thousand kilometers north another assad sling tactic is to sitting in jail a u.s. federal appeals court has denied chelsea manning bail after she was arrested once again in march and for what refusing to testify in court against a songe it seems like any connection to wiki leaks can get you in jail so if you've ever rubbed elbows with julian a songe it might be better to keep quiet about it. and that is for me i'll be back in about thirty one minutes with another look at your weekly you are watching international. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. want to. have two going to be close this is what before three of them or ten people that i'm interested in the waters about how. this should. be neat a political impulse needs to come. from. the normandie for. the haas been. giving guidance to the process and so basically what i'm waiting for he's an author political impulse ideally stemming from the moment you. are. going to welcome two worlds apart from twenty two months fi

the transgression of international treaties have led the situation to a point where the asylum of mr assad regime is unsustainable are no longer viable the ecuadorian authorities didn't like the fact that they said julian assange wanted to interfering in the international affairs in the affairs of other countries through his online activity through his activities this editor of wiki leaks but also there was this kind of domestic disputes bubbling beneath the surface as well last year julian assange was given a list of conditions that he needed to add here if he wanted to stay on the good side of his the ecuadorian hosts he was told they needed to tidy up after himself between his bar pay for the same food to pay for their own three clean up after is talent which they threaten term leave and subsequently did british officials are pretty pleased about what's happened we'll welcome the news this morning that the metropolitan police have arrested julian assange. mr speaker this goes to show that in the united kingdom no one is above the law but what we've shown today is that no one is above th

there have been a number of voices that have spoken up against the possible extradition of julian assad is warning about the impact it could have on civil liberties now among those voices was a congresswoman from a hole why a name is tulsi gabber and in addition to being a congresswoman she is also a presidential contender in twenty twenty she spoke up saying that the possible chill effect and impact on american civil liberties from this case would not be small this is a threat to journalists but it's also something that threatens every american because the message that we're getting that the american people are getting by what's happened here today is you know be quiet toed the line otherwise there will be consequences now the american civil liberties union is one of the oldest civil rights and civic freedom organizations in the united states has taken many cases to the u.s. supreme court it has represented journalists as well as activists and others who are trying to expand the level of freedom of speech and freedom of the press they have also spoken up regarding the wiki leaks case a

inquiry to become essential for piracy and spying that period in our history is over so just hours after assad was dragged out of the dorian embassy being he was detained in quito airport his lawyers say his rights were violated in many ways no charges no translator he was even denied bail and his parents fear for his safety it's a tough time for him when he doesn't really understand why he. or she has been accused of. and this isn't just another hacktivist we're talking about here beany worked on the advisory board for a major european commission funded project called decode the initiative involves cybersecurity experts researching data ownership and technological sovereignty human rights groups and high profile figures are calling for beanies immediate release and also in sweden the big newspaper that has been. giving out this petition or open letter to our prime minister. that he should be released and this has been signed over. about hundred very. prominent persons from rome. it shouldn't be dangerous for anyone in ecuador or has to just know mr sachs. several thousand kilometers north ano

the transgression of international treaties have led the situation to a point where the asylum of mr assad regime is unsustainable are no longer viable we need kind of boils down to two different issues but you sort of came together over the past eighteen months one is that the ecuadorian authorities didn't like the fact that they said julian assange is interfering in the international affairs in the affairs of other countries through his online activity through his activities as editor of wiki leaks but also there was this kind of domestic disputes bubbling beneath the surface as well last year julian assange was given a list of conditions that he needed to add here to if he wanted to stay on the good side of his neck for dorrian hosts he was told they needed to tidy up after himself between his policy and pay for the same food to pay for certain on three clean up after his talents which they threaten term leave and subsequently did british officials are pretty pleased about what's happened to will welcome the news this morning that the metropolitan police have arrested judy in a sorry. m

justice department and says that that charge could carry up to five years in prison if mr assad is found guilty here in the united states on that count so what is new in all of this is that mr saunders is being accused of breaking in to a computer essentially cracking the password to release that documents it is worth noting of course that normally in the united states a journalist is not prosecuted for releasing classified information but many people now are questioning mr song his role as a journalist there asking whether he's gone from being a publisher to someone who has partnered with foreign governments for example when you look at the twenty sixteen release of democratic e-mails and involvement with russia there are at helena humphrey reporting from washington thank you very much. i like to tell you now about some of the other stories making news around the world both british prime minister theresa may has addressed parliament defending her decision to the labor exit but she also urged lawmakers to come together behind a compromise exit plan with the opposition party the labor par

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