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maria alvarez from costa rica is a refugee activist and founder of the migration hub she says we don't combat irregular migrants by letting them die while crossing borders we do it by offering safe and regulated top ways and fair migratory policies both for the country and for those migrating. works at the home both university and she's an expert on migration issues she says humanitarian rhetoric alone doesn't make humanitarian policy. u.s. and e.u. migration policies are more similar than we may think. and it's a pleasure to welcome other laming after the program he works for the daily newspaper to target spiegel and he says we will only achieve a humane european refugee policy if citizens sent europe has had to tighten its borders in order to prevent right wing populist from gaining the upper hand so let me start out by asking you about the numbers that we're seeing as i mentioned this is in fact the biggest wave of refugees worldwide on record since the 2nd world war why is that must we expect this trend in fact to continue rising it's indeed the case that the refugee influx to euro

maria alvarez from costa rica is a refugee activist and founder of the migration hub she says we don't combat irregular migrants by letting them die while crossing borders we do it by offering safe and regulated top ways and figure migratory policies both for the country and for those migrating. works the whole university and she's an expert on migration issues she says humanitarian rhetoric alone doesn't make humanitarian policy the u.s. and the e.u. migration policies are more similar than we may think. and it's a pleasure to welcome other laming back to the program he works for the daily newspaper to target and he says we will only achieve a humane european refugee policy if e.u. citizens set europe has had to tighten its borders in order to prevent right wing populist from gaining the upper hand so they let me start out by asking you about the numbers that we're seeing as i mentioned this is in fact the biggest wave of refugees worldwide on record since the 2nd world war why is that and must we expect this trend in fact to continue rising. it's indeed the case that the refugee infl

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