say that baltimore is in a crisis? >> well, i would honestly say yes, you know, from the drug selling, to the killing, you know, the poverty, you know it's just crazy. >> what do you see when you see baltimore? poverty? crime >> i see poverty, crime, i see crime as a way of life >> i'm actually afraid to raise a family here and this is my home >> the crisis is not just the crime. but the crisis starts downtown with the government. >> tell me about your leaders here >> the leaders >> yeah, your elected officials. what are they doing? >> i think they sold out. >> when you look at baltimore, describe what do you see. the boarded houses, drugs. tell me what you see. >> i see something going wrong. i've been here 58 years, and it was such a pleasure to live here. and i'm almost in tierce at what it has become >> i love baltimore but baltimore is like a sewage right now. you know, the president called out and said it is rat infested. it's true >> it's been so much attention to the president. that tells you something right th

immigration has been devastating for baltimore. a lot of cities like baltimore. the last thing that we need is a lot of poor desperate people. illegal immigration drives down wages for low skilled workers nationwide. it sucks up education and health care dollars. democrats do not care about that. why? because illegal immigrants are a viable boat, and vote for them. he joins us tonight. another lecture on racism from people who clearly care very deeply about baltimore and what's happening. do you think any of the people lecturing about baltimore have been to baltimore or know anything about baltimore or were living baltimore on a million years question mexico it's the sort of place you travel through quickly. but no. i don't think that the various worthies who have been telling trump that he is a racist, and all the sympathy for baltimore, particularly care about what's happening there. the fact of the city does, as you pointed out have by far the highest murder rate in the country. there are suffering places all over the united states. i really think that a very

not baltimore , his district. the president was tweeting about his district. >> laura: you are satisfied with the situation? >> it's not about being satisfied. >> laura: you are splitting hairs. >> it's about being accurate. more educated people coming out of that district -- >> laura: are you okay? >> we haven't had anything -- >> laura: hold on, 16 years, eight years of the first african-american president. eight years of bill clinton with a call the first african-american president. we have trump in for two years, and the of the world and economy, he's looking at these inner cities, i think he's impatient maybe as much as you are for change. maybe you don't like the way he saying it, but he's telling african-americans, guess what? stick with us. we've got to turn this thing around because it's unfair. i think he cares about it. i really do. i'm sorry, i'm talking back at you. but what i think, candace, the tweets bother people. the way you say it bothers people. i'm going to say that some people take it to hear

president, do you regret baltimore? >> baltimore has been very badly mishandled for many years. as you know, congressman cummings has been there for a very long time. he has a very iron hand on it. it's a corrupt city, there's no question about it. all you have to do is look at the facts. the government has pumped in over the years billions and billions of dollars to no avail, to absolutely no avail. baltimore is an example of what corrupt government leads to. billions of dollars have been given, and i feel so sorry for the people of baltimore if they ask me, we will get involved. we're already involved from the standpoint over the years, billions and billions of dollars have been given to baltimore. it's been misspent, missing, stolen with a lot of corrupt government. as you know, cummings has been in charge i will say this. i think representative cummings should take his oversight committee and do some oversight on baltimore. he'd find out some things. >> on the fed, what should the rate cut be? >> the talks are moving very well with klein as they were with china, but china of

i'm baltimore. we're baltimore. all of us. because it's baltimore today. it will be another city tomorrow. we are baltimore baltimore, #wearebaltimore. for him to use the word -- victor, bear with me for a minute -- to talk about invested, infested. mr. president, where's your urban renewell plan for baltimore and cities like baltimore? don't talk about it, be about it. this is now the reporter hat's off because this is ridiculous. on top of that, it's infested. you're living in a house infe infested with mice. you, mr. president, are living with a house infested with mice, stink bugs and everything else. you talk about where you liv, what's running across your covers at night. if you want to get into the history of the word infested, let's talk about the word infested when it was used against our jewish brothers and sisters during the holocaust. there are awful references that this president is making. and it needs to stop. this president said last week or two weeks ago when this -- all of this squad issue came up that he enjoys this. he's enjoying it at

baltimore is a human tragedy. 2017, baltimore named the most dangerous big city in america. that will year, more people murdered in baltimore than ever before for 2018, the sorties murder rate was higher than in the country of honduras. people are trying and dying from honduras to come here. if they come here, don't go to baltimore. it's not a good place. it'll be worse than that from which you came. and believe it or not, this year baltimore's murder rate is on the rise again. during the first half of 2019, a 16% increase in murders, 20% increase in nonfatal shootings. even as the city loses population. we're going to show you what obama bernie sanders and even the former mayor had to say about baltimore. it's coming up later in the show but they don't paint a pretty picture at all. today, nearly 17,000 abandoned and structures in the city limits. zero students. nine. now one student in 13 baltimore high schools. not a single kid. i was able to be found proficient in math. you got to be kidding me. five schools, high schools, enrolled zero students. baltimore's unemployment

meanwhile, baltimore, the actual city of baltimore, not the metaphor of baltimore, could desperately use some attention, so it'sci good news it's finally getting some. if anything, trump's tweets underplay the crisis there. last year the city of baltimore recorded 309 homicides. that's a rate of more than 50 per 100,000 people. to put in perspective, if baltimore were a country, it would have the fourth highest murder rate in the world. barely below venezuela. think of it this way, last week the left denounced president trump for reaching a deal with guatemala that declares the country a safe location forng asylum-seekers. liberals told us that guatemala has too much crime, too many gangs to be considered safe, making people stay in guatemala is a human rights violation, they told us. and yet -- here's the amazing part -- baltimore's murder rate is double that ofer guatemala. in almost any way that a city can be a disaster, baltimore is. more than 22% of the city lives in poverty, almost 65% of all children in baltimore grow up in single parent households. the schools, not surprising

. >> i love baltimore, but baltimore is like a sewage right now. the president. >> it is bringing a great attention. that tells you something right there. see two as he joins us from l.a. and new york and other cities that are in precipitous decline. our contributor, special correspondence, lawrence jones. the other direction is her office. in between, we've got drug addicts, people, all over the street. and she's worth 30-50000000 bucks. she can't get a facility built to let these people get a hot meal, maybe get a little drug counseling. what do they just walk around the other day when she goes from her house to the office so she doesn't have to see it? >> what you just described is a pattern of behavior. it is the people in baltimore. i'm standing right in front of baltimore city hall. a lot of the corrupt practices have caused this environment for many of the people involved they are looking for people with solutions. who can, and actually fix this? i've been to all the cities and saw what happens to communities. pounding the pavement to show t

. >> do you regret talking about baltimore? >> no, baltimore has been very badly mishandled for many years. i know congressman cummings has been there for a long time. he's had a very iran hand on it. all you have to do is look at facts. the government has pumped in billions and billions of dollars to no avail. to absolutely no avail. baltimore is an example of what corrupt government leads to. billions of dollars have been given. and i feel so sorry for the people of baltimore. and if they ask me, we will get involved. but we're already involved from the standpoint that over many years, billions and billions of dollars have been given to baltimore. it's been missing. it's been stolen which a lot of corrupt government. -- s you know, cummings now, i will say this, i think that representative cummings should take his oversight committee and start doing oversight on baltimore. he'd find out some real things. >> what should the rate cut be? >> the talks are moving very well with china. but they were often with china, but china alw

it's not just baltimore unfortunately. and i think they're really into just boosting themselves up and padding their own pockets. but there are people who are being forgotten and it's really sad. i didn't do any other interviews because i didn't think this is not about me. this is about west baltimore, the people who live there. this is about getting the trash picked up. and i think will it's great that people want to go and pick up the trash. i have to warn people, this is a dangerous situation. where i was, there were needles, there were dead rats, feces. this is not something -- >> laura: like l.a. or san francisco, same thing happening there. >> you can't just go and pick il up. you need people trained that can clean this up. the city officials can get that. >> laura: they're demonizing you as well. brian stealther of cnn said this. let's watch. >> fox brought in a guest named kimberly crackit. who went to impoverished parts of baltimore and made videos of trash lots and ruebed row homes. fox called her a strategist. t

the city of baltimore faces many problems and one has been there for many years west baltimore which is prone to crime and violence and with the streets are indicate. one of the last homicides happened just here a few days ago and with more than 300 people murdered last year there is no doubt that baltimore is one of the most violent cities in north america but does this make it a rap and rodent infested mess as president trump says. a series of inflammatory tweets from the y. tells its baltimore slate as problem president trump calling the city of very dangerous and filthy place worst in the usa and says no human being would want to live there president trump statements are wrong. represent a political attack and a lack of understanding regarding the dynamics of baltimore the dynamics of crime a city with a black population of more than 60 percent some feel insulted by the president's rhetoric but others say there is some truth to what he says he's right about some part as well like others like if you haven't been here you can't really say anything about it especially if you're not

to go tou willing baltimore? >> at the right time i will do this but the people of baltimore are very thankful. they have let us know by the thousands of people because of the fact that finally somebody is pointing out how corrupt baltimore is. how billions and billions of dollars have been stolen and -- african-american voters. those are the ones. inc. you. -- thank you. ♪ network with small an unusual name rolled out a big idea. let viewers make up their own minds. c-span opened the doors to washington policymaking for all to see, bringing you unfiltered content from congress and beyond. a lot has changed in 40 years but today that big idea is more relevant than ever. on television and online, c-span is your unfiltered look so you can make up your own mind. brought to you as a public service by your cable or satellite provider. >> reagan is an intellectual. he's an intellectual. he's comfortable with ideas. he understands the power of ideas. and with that kind of intellectual foundation, a political leader ca

tell us what baltimore really looks like. >> baltimore is a vibrant city. baltimore is home to some of the world's renowned institutions, john hopkins, shock trauma. we have all of our cultural events right here in baltimore. we are a city with problems like any other city but we have moved them forward. we're moving them forward without legally a lot of assistance from the federal government. hud, they're cutting programs that are hurting poor people all over this country. not just in baltimore. but in the entire country. we need for the president to send federal help to baltimore for programs to uplift people instead of tearing people down. those attacks and tweets i've never in my entire life ever heard of any president tweeting and doing these things to divide us instead of bringing us all together. like i said earlier, our allies are even shaken by some of the things this president is doing and has done. >> you're right, mayor. it has never been done before. so maybe this is an opportunity for people across this country to unite. mayor, thank you so mu

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but the people of baltimore are very thankful. they have let us know by the thousands of people because of the fact that finally somebody is pointing out how corrupt baltimore is. how billions and billions of dollars have been stolen. and the ones that like it the best what i am doing is african-american voters. those are the ones. thank you. [whirring of helicopter] -- from 17thcident to 20 third place. you'll he sees as grant makes the most dramatic rise of all of the presidents, going from a 33rd two the 22nd spot. where does your favorite president rank? learn all of that and more about the lives and leadership skills of 44 chief executives in c-span's "the presidents." it is a great vacation reading, available wherever books are or at c-span.org/aboutpresidents. announcer: here's a look at a coverage wednesday on c-span. vice president pence and misery senator josh hawley speak at a conservative student conference hosted by the young america foundation. day, the reserve chair holding news conference after his closed-door meet

i worked for baltimore sun. some of the global effects we've seen in some of these american cities, the same in baltimore. this was a proud city. manufacturing was there. it had been gutted by a lot of things that donald trump likes to talk about, right? tariffs and trade and working class. >> you know, we lose all these episodes because they come so rapidly. this is the same exact attack he launched at john lewis. the same language, same attack, same lack of truth because both those districts have median incomes above the national average. >> briefly, one other things about this, john and alisyn, what we forget here is that cities are where a lot of progress is made in the country. that's where the innovation is. that's where you have people, mayors, well connected with their communities, and take on the cities in general where so many people of color live. it just compiles not just the racism but misunderstanding of what's going on in this country. the hope of a lot of people is in our city. >> but the base of

let's start with the battle of baltimore. you can see all of the little daffodils that plafly the rinos in the senate and the house as he took on the oversight committee chair, elijah cummings criticizing baltimore. what do you think now after watching this unfold? >> i think the president is exactly right, calling out democrats who represent these districts with people in great distress, with crime rates going up, with their education system failing. and he's saying, you know what? you're so worried about the people at the border, giving free health care to illegal immigrants, why don't you focus on the people in your own district who are suffering. i lived in baltimore and my home was robbed twice. i now live in michigan near detroit. we have a mayor that's now in jail. we have blight in our city. we ar have a corrupt government that's under investigation for taking $200 million in medical funds to remove blight. we have got to start tackling the problems in the inner cities run by the democrats and go to the voters saying

i lived in baltimore. i met my husband in baltimore. my son was born in baltimore. i worked in baltimore. i met some of the finest people on the face of the earth in baltimore, and while there are challenges -- there are challenges in baltimore, but johns hopkins university is in baltimore, one of the finest medical institutions in the world. not just this country, but the world, and the suggestion that somehow it is just run into the ground -- i mean when you think about poverty, 9 out of the 10 poorest states in the country are red states. they have republican governors. why doesn't he talk about the poverty there? why is he talking about the poverty in baltimore? how about that? [ applause ] >> i want to point something out that every state in the union has issues. >> challenges. >> whether we have, you know, opioid problems, whether we have issues here or here or there, but d.c., where the big white house is -- >> yeah. >> it's right there. you know, listen. we are a nation of lots of different kinds of folks, and calling folks racist when you have no idea what

i feel so sorry for the people of baltimore appeared millions have been given to baltimore, and so much has been stolen. the president pointing out all of this money going to baltimore. he wants to know how that is being spent. talking about an investigation into that. he is also taking on china and talking mitch mcconnell right now. so that is the latest on that. also talking the economy, the stock market at an all-time high. when we have the president's words in that video, we will play that back for you. we will be right back. write the future? can you feel calm in the eye of a storm? can you do more with less? can you raise the bar while reducing your footprint? for our 100 years we've been answering the questions of today to meet the energy needs of tomorrow. southern company let's cowboy up! exhilarating speed. woo! precision control. woo! maximum reliability. access denied. [ repeats ] access denied. if it's not xfinity xfi, it's not good enough. for wifi with super powers, get xfinity xfi. and go see, fast & furious presents, hobbs & shaw. august 2. >> i feel like we are more th

a more raw political analysis, baltimore and detroit are not comparing baltimore and salt lake city or salt lake city and miami. the attacks on baltimore are primarily about race. they're primarily about infrastructure, about health care. if you can't walk and chew gum and defend baltimore and make the larger points that what he's attacking are his own failures. the things that are happening that he is pointing out, whether it's the crime, economy, infrastructure, a big question is what are you doing about it? he is doing nothing about it. on the racist question, it's tough. i think we all know his intent or at least we know the ancillary benefit to him of that. the debate stage is going to be full of people who are to some extent jockeying for that demographic. so you have to make sure you're not overdoing it in terms of pandering to an african-american vote. especially in michigan where you saw the depressed turnout in detroit in 2016. i think overall what you want to make sure and what, you know, you said trump is not sending these by accident. someone tallied that he sent 43,000 tw

i've been to baltimore. baltimore when baltimore was burning. i know there's a lot of issues in baltimore, but i will tell you in terms of federal money, federal contract money, although mark is a lot like detroit. we have deep problems with crime, the police are underpaid. in detroit they send us a quarter billion dollars and tear down our flight and what we have for it now is a federal grand jury on public corruption who were convened today. that's this mayor. our mayor when he was running public hospital was fined $30 million for fraud and kickbacks with medicaid. we have the problems with our airport. we had it with our county jail. this is politics. this is what everybody is angry about. we do want the swamp drained. i'm not a pro-trump and i'm not anti-trump. >> sandra: what's the solution though? you see what's happening here. the president is pointed out that nearly $16 billion went into the city in one year alone and city officials are asking for more. >> here's something we should do. in detroit today we have the international media he

baltimore is well known. the taste of baltimore. how many of you know that the only place you can get a really legitimate crab cake is in baltimore city. we all know that. and the aubay seasoning. the port of baltimore, the economic heart of our state, domino sugar. under armour investing hundreds of dollars in the city because they know the future. the ngo's, able foundation, center for urban families, catholic relief services, luther immigration and refugee services. i do this in hopes that the president might be listening so he can learn a little bit about why we're so proud of baltimore city and what we do ask is very simple to the president. come and learn about our urban centers and how you can help us in meeting the problems that we have in baltimore and many urban centers -- cities around the nation. we need a federal partner that will help us with our economic growth and help us meet the challenges of the future. it's exciting to live in baltimore and it's exciting to see our city grow. i am proud to be a baltimorean and i'

liz: that was president trump talking about baltimore and elijah cummings of baltimore. >> he went on to just remind us that he cares about all americans. we all believe the same, that's something the president has said, one race, one human race. but he absolutely is not a racist. >> i don't think president trump is a bad person. he's working very hard. i asked if he was willing to work with elijah cummings to bring relief to the people of baltimore? liz: sylvester, what is your take on all of this? >> thank you for having me. the president is not a racist. i'm an african-american man who grew up in the rural south. i know what racism is. i have seen white only signs. i felt the sting of the n word. this is a man who always had close alliances with african-americans. he said this week he and reverend al sharpton used to attend boxing matches together. no racist would be seen hanging out with al sharpton. this is as man who worked hard to improve our country and he has had success. unemployment among african-americans is at an historic low during this presidency and he's worked for pri

well, come to baltimore and fix it there. target baltimore. target flint. target philadelphia, target a lot of these urban areas instead of holding your nose up and looking down at them. the issue is, it's in the news now. mr. president, what are you going to do to really be president and show that you are the leader, to help people? power means service. when are you going to serve baltimore. >> david, i only have 30 seconds left. you live in cummings district. the president is not watching this conversation oop he's only watching what he's seeing on fox. so nothing's going to change. >> well, brian, there you did a great job at the top of. >> tracking. >> he's golfing right now. he's not watching. he's golfing. the president's only hearing this distorted view on fox. >> he's watching. > he does sometimes watch cnn. he does. >> we're not going to correct him had. he's not going to change. he's so far down this road of evil, he's not going to change. we can change voters' minds for 2020. that's what we can do if we keep speaking forcefully and we talk about

can help baltimore, it can help detroit. as we continue to makethosis investments and as employers with record low unemployment across the board, as they struggle to find people the fill their jobs, wages are going to go up -- >> we're going to move on but let me ask you this. if the president is so worried as he clearly is about baltimore, why doesn't he go there and tour the neighborhoods and spend time? i know ivanka trump has done that. will he do that or continue to criticize the congressman on twitter? >> i think it's something he'll definitely continue to highlight. it's opportunity for him to go there. as we saw yesterday with just one of our colleagues from the housing and urban development agency they're talking about the amount of money going into baltimore, more money now under president trump to help than the previous administration. we need to stee that continue. >> let's talk about tonight. what's the strategy for responding to the debate tonight? >> i think right now we're going to sit there and watch the dem

it is a crime in baltimore city -- i don't like to be in baltimore city. if you look at the news today, just in the shootings, we have definite issues -- i don't think it is about racism. i think we have a problem where we are not getting our jobs done and when we are held accountable for that, people get very upset when they are being held accountable for what you have been hired to do. aboutan interesting story the idea of racism. president trump and elijah cummings from hans nichols with the atlantic, a former reporter for the wall street journal and he shares a story about the two men, elijah cummings and president trump sitting down to talk about lowering prescription drug prices in the spring of 2017. the conversation took an unexpected term and they fell into a candid give-and-take about race. during the 2016 campaign, president trump planted -- painted black neighborhoods as health caves in which there was no way out. sitting together in the oval office that day, cummings was blunt and told the conch -- the president his words were insulting. trump

the city of baltimore faces many problems and one has been there for many years west baltimore which is prone to crime and violence and where the streets are indicate one of the last homicides happened just here a few days ago with more than 300 people murdered last year there's no doubt that baltimore is one of the most violent cities in north america but does this make it a rat rodent infested mess as president trump syrus. a series of inflammatory tweets from the white tells is baltimore slee this problem president trump calling the city of very dangerous and filthy place worst in the us a and says no human being would want to live there president trump statements are wrong. represent a political attack and a lack of understanding regarding the dynamics of baltimore the dynamics of crime a city with a black population of more than 60 percent some feel insulted by the president's rhetoric but others say there is some truth to what he says he's right about some part as well like others like if you haven't been here you can't really say anything about it especially if you're not help

he attacked baltimore. these are cities that are known for their african americans. >> reporter: after mr. trumpaltg rat, rodent infested mess," the "baltimore sun's" editorial page wrote, "it's better to have some vermin living in your" andrew greene is the paper's ne editorial editor. listen, you called him a rat. >> well, that's true. he called a lot of people a lot of things. pat's not something we take lightly. >> reporter: the baltimore area's biggest names in sports, business and theater have been coming to the city's defense. baltimore's own john waters, idmous for the film "hairspray," dared president trump to "see if you have the nerve to say it in person." norah? f> o'donnell: all right, jeff pegues in baltimore, thank you. the president's choice to be the next director of national ratelligence is already drawing fire. critics are questioning the qualifications of john ratcliffe. if confirmed by the senate, he would succeed dan coats, one of d e last remaining members of the original trump cabine

ainsley: this was in baltimore? steve: baltimore at the height of riots. mick mulvaney who said this was initially this was the president counterpunching back at elijah cummings, blast congress for focusing on things like the mueller and once a great city like baltimore. >> i was in congress for 6 years, if i had poverty in my district like they had baltimore, if i had crime, homelessness like they have in san francisco, and i spent all of my time in washington, d.c. chasing down this mueller investigation, this bizarre impeachment crusade i would get fired, the president is right to raise that and absolutely zero to do with race. >> of course, they make it about race, one of the guys on the program we had earlier framed it so well, you know dan from the program, he ran for the senate in maryland because he was passionate about the conditions in baltimore and the great people of baltimore who are suffering under the policy of democrats, listen. >> liberals have destroyed the cities, pete, in 1950's baltimore was one of the wealthiest cities in america, dri

>> he's very proud of baltimore and the people of baltimore. this is a great city with great people and great neighborhoods and institutions like john hopkins and the university of maryland. the fort mchenry. it is an incredible community and to hear the president of the united states talk that way about our city, it hurts. it hurts a great deal but congressman comings knows he's done a great job representing the people of baltimore in the congress of the united states, and he understands that the president's agenda isn't really about congressman cummings or baltimore but his attempt to district the american people from the proper oversight of the congress of the united states. >> that's what you think this? you think this is an effort to district? distract. >> i think it's an effort to distract. i also think as senator said, it's a pattern which the president appeals to the worst of america and to racism in an effort to try to bolster his base. it's unacceptable from anyone but particularly the president of the united states. >> senator van ho

the president went there on baltimore. i saw a headline on television, president attacks baltimore. on the list of things you never think you'll see. i guess so much for the urban and minority outreach program. will this really be a strategy for 2020? >> i think that plan had to be with asap rocky's freedom. that's still in the pipeline. when the kardashians reach out, he springs into action. but this has been a buildup for a while, before he attacks congressman cummings, on a theme of how the urban centers run by democrats are out of control, it's a war zone, this will come to your town. and it is socialism, and will lead to venezuela, and on and on. with his attacks on cummings. it crossed over. but he insinuated he needed to be investigated for some kind of graft, it was so beyond anything he's done before. i think you'll hear them talk about nancy pelosi's district to change the subject and say we talk about white liberals' districts, too. but i think generally speaking, having people that he can call racist, he's called members of the squad and congressman cummings racist. pick

in baltimore county. in 2017, the company was cited for more than 200 code violations county wide. for what? mice, mold, lack of plumbing, maggots, all the while profiting from lower-income tenants. at least $90 million a year according to "the washington post." why didn't he bring that up? let's bring in d. lemon. your take. and first of all, seriously, i'm very happy for you tomorrow night. do the people proud. >> thank you. i think we will. thank you. i appreciate it. listen, if you want words of advice you could say to this president, number one, people who live in glass towers shouldn't throw bricks, you know you live in new york city, you don't know where you're going to see those things. >> it's true. >> and i think, you know, he should clean up his own house, meaning, within his family before he says things like that. it is obvious that he was trying to insult, right, elijah cummings, but i think it's obvious that he was trying to bring up certain things to make people think, infestation, vermin,

tells its baltimore sleep problem president trump calling the city of very dangerous and filthy place worst in the usa and says no human being would want to live there president trump statements are wrong. represent a political attack and a lack of understanding regarding the dynamics of baltimore the dynamics of crime a city with a black population of more than 60 percent some feel insulted by the president's rhetoric but others say there is some truth to what he says he's right about some part as well like others like if you haven't been here you can't really say anything about it especially if you're not helping the city he's right about what he then it may be the way that it but that's the thing that i get is i think people who are insulted are absolutely justified in being insulted because he has no idea what he's talking about but that's the case of everything what does it mean what with his attack president trump is taking on some of his most vocal critics congressman elijah cummings who represents parts of baltimore in congress they are human beings. city council man leon pink

president's comments in baltimore. so there you go. joining me, former white house press secretary sean spicer. how's that for timing? >> good tv. trish: the president is going why very few republicans have gone before. to call out the elephant in the room, so to speak. the democrat policies in so many of these poor communities have failed, really, really failed this population. >> yeah. you mentioned before and the president pointed out, it's not just baltimore. most of of these major custodies, have been run largely by democratic party operatives going back decades. yesterday they continue to have problems with job creation. healthcare delivery and crime. trish: the answer is always more money. why aren't they fixing these places? >> i think part of it is once you fix the problem, this is a self-licking ice cream cone. democrats need people to rely on government to perpetuate more money to ask for more money and then they control more power. the more that people are dependent the more they continue to have a strangle

baltimore. statistically, baltimore ravens lasted almost every major category jury he has done nothing but milk baltimore.

kept does make is that baltimore is one of the poorest states in the u.s. it's a 5th of this population live below the poverty line and it's 2 and a half times more 6 more in poverty than the rest of the states national average so is there some credibility to what he's saying and is this the way to address that. well this is a part of the strategy again i mean this is a case where the president is priming those voters he uses these cubes and this phrases that he use you know was dangerous and he used the border patrol and that resonates with voters because when they do see some of these urban areas and the term urban itself has been used as a symbolic reference to african-americans and you know if you go back to say ronald reagan who used the word welfare queen to describe you know black women who were on welfare this was a clear case where he was not making an attempt to use a term to demonize african-american females and to use this language it creates these or what ignites these cues that white voters have in their reference bands or psychological refere

same with the mayor of baltimore. you guys were elected to fix these things. >> capri: agreed. >> kennedy: every mayor and a lot of the cops and two of the police chiefs have been on the take? at two of the police chiefs have been in federal prison? to the last mayors have had to resign in baltimore? so elijah cummings owes it to the people in his district to help groom and offer new candidates. the >> capri: amen. >> kennedy: and talk about how you get these people out of office. they are good at stirring up the anger. they are horrible at coming up with actual solutions. >> harris: i we look for the results. in puerto rico i've seen the eight amount coming. let's see the results now. they've got some people out of the way we hope the same thing will happen. you know l.a. better than anyone, because you lived there. i know. you'll jump. democrats not backing down despite robert mueller's testimony, being widely seen as uneventful. now to top disintegrates senate they call for proceedings to begin. will they forced sp

to the people of baltimore, you are resilient. you are strong and you are so much better than anything that anyone ever has to say negative about you. >> baltimore is just a short train ride away from washington, d.c. joining me now with the latest is geoff bennett. we haven't heard much from the republican party condemning the president's comments. we do have some new reporting that the house republicans plan their yearly retreat in baltimore, of all places, despite the president's attacks. what more do we know about that? >> reporter: this retreat in baltimore has actually been planned for a few months. this is in no way a rebuke to the president or to make any sort of statement by republicans. we do know that house republicans have also left town for six weeks. the entire house of representatives for their august recess and so they won't have to be peppered with questions by the press on how they do respond to the president. the senate is about the come in so senate republicans will get asked but since the president started thi

love baltimore and the people it was a great city. but it is not unsurprising that this story or these videos will be used for some a political ammunition, because this is when we see, with the issues in the black community. our issues only matter what it is time for an election or people can use it as a mittal talkin--political talking point. kennedy: both sides. >> we are seeing it both sides, with democrat now with republican, issues in baltimore are so much bigger than just crime, i wrote an op-ed about this i talked about the lead poisoning issue and crisis between 1993 and 2013, 65,000 children test positive for lead, those children are now in their 20s, that is the age group we're seeing out here committing the crimes, there is scientific data shows that lead poisoning leads to violent crime. kennedy: that does not surprise me. i know that sort of heavy met will toxicity all sorts of manifestintation, you see it in flint, there are until structural issues, you see it over and over often times with education. you take places tha

baltimore city, baltimore county, suburban areas. i was appalled and offended by the comments the president made. i have been hearing that elijah cummings has been one of the staunch persons who has been inestigating him on taxes the administration and he's hast, congressman cummings , so executive experience i'm highly offended. i am a democrat, and they will be registering voters and taking people to the polls to help unseat this president, whoever is running for president is better than who we have an office right now and i hope you can hear the tension in my voice, i'm highly offended. baltimore is a conglomerate of diverse people that live in this district and this is not right. they took one section of west baltimore, took the most horrible pictures they could find, trying to blanket the whole community. that's 700,000 people that live in that district and i'm offended by what the president said. host: thank you for the call. next we are to sarah on the republican line from jackson, michigan. caller: hello. host: go ahead with

crime in baltimore. no it was work-related tax and emails on personal accounts by white house officials including ivanka and jared. do you agree? is that what is behind all of this? >> well clearly that is what gets president trump most upset and it is a really questionable strategy in the sense that it brings on all of the kinds of criticism that are not helpful in terms of him appealing to the center of the country. but he's always going after his political enemies as he sees it. >> and rick santorum, let me ask you, he does go after his political enemies, whether it is bill de blasio or adam schiff. >> i know all about that. >> as an enemy. former. >> but a lot of people say, look at the way he goes after people of color. the way he attacks them. go back where you came from. rat and rodent-infested district and no one would want to live there and not the rhetoric you use and you've been around for a long time. >> i won't condone the president's rhetoric. i know the president is upset when you go after

so, this is not an attack on baltimore. i live near baltimore. i've always felt sorry for baltimore. but you have to kind of wonder what did happen to the $2.3 billion the fed's in baltimore of the last ten years question margus hunt evident when you drive through. >> stick a wall, maxing out hero talk about what happened to the money, food and do what. i'm here to talk about how hard baltimore city residents take care of these neighborhoods, clean outcome of those kinds of things, and talk about 400 years of structural racism, not just in baltimore, all over the country, for black people. pursuant okay. that's okay. that's an interesting topic but it doesn't quite get to the key question which is, why have two mayors resign? what happened to the money? why is the murder rate higher than almost every country on the planet? what is the core problem in baltimore, do you think? >> the murder rate comes from 400 years of structural racism which leads to poverty, which leads to inadequate education, which leads to crime and now, mental health. for 400

i saw a headline on television, president attacks baltimore. on the list of things you never think you'll see. i guess so much for the urban and minority outreach program. will this really be a strategy for 2020? >> i think that plan had to be with asap rocky's freedom. that's still in the pipeline. when the kardashians reach out, he springs into action. but this has been a buildup for a while, before he attacks congressman cummings, on a theme of how the urban centers run by democrats are out of control, it's a war zone, this will come to your town. and it is socialism, and will lead to venezuela, and on and on. but he insinuated he needed to be investigated for some kind of graft, it was so beyond anything he's done before. i think you'll hear them talk about nancy pelosi's district to say we talk about white liberals' districts, too. but i think generally speaking, having people that he can call racist, he's called members of the squad and congressman cummings racist. picking fights about immigrations and things when he can get to that topic

>> he's very proud of baltimore and the people of baltimore. this is a great city with great people and great neighborhoods and institutions like john hopkins and the university of maryland. it is an incredible community and to hear the president of the united states talk that way about our city, it hurts. it hurts a great deal but congressman comings knows he's done a great job representing the people of baltimore in the congress of the united states, and he understands that the president's agenda isn't really about congressman coummings or baltimore but his attempt to district the american people from the proper oversight of the congress of the united states. >> that's what you think this? you think this is an effort to district? >> i think it's an effort to distract. i also think as senator said, it's a pattern which the president appeals to the worst of america and to racism in an effort to try to bolster his base. it's unacceptable from anyone but particularly the president of the united states. >> senator van holland, the language the pre

i saw a headline on television, president attacks baltimore. on the list of things you never think you'll see. i guess so much for the urban and minority outreach program. will this really be a strategy for 2020? >> i think that plan had to be with asap rocky's freedom. that's still in the pipeline. when the kardashians reach out, he springs into action. but this has been a buildup for a while, before he attacks congressman cummings, on a theme of how the urban centers run by democrats are out of control, it's a war zone, this will come to your town. and it is socialism, and will lead to venezuela, and on and on. but he insinuated he needed to be investigated for some kind of graft, it was so beyond anything he's done before. i think you'll hear them talk about nancy pelosi's district to say we talk about white liberals' districts, too. but i think generally speaking, having people that he can call ra racist, he's called members of the squad and congressman cummings racist. picking fights about immigrations and things when he can get to that to

i love baltimore. at my mom is from baltimore, the people from baltimore are great. it's a great city, they make the best crab cakes in the world but just because a cnn anchor sheds a few tears and talks about the revitalization of inner harbor and a few select areas doesn't mean the entire city is thriving, because it's not. >> sandra: the debate over whether or not his remarks were racist or not, let's deal with the facts, and that is -- >> the city of baltimore has gone through three mayors and four police commissioners in the last four years. they have the highest murder rate in the country, as you just said, equal to that of el salvador. >> sandra: so what is the trump administration doing about this? i want to read your tweet. you want to be quick to respond. the president tweeted back in 2015 obviously before he was president trump. he said president obama, taking him directly on on baltimore. if you have a big job to do, go to baltimore and bring both sides together with proper leadership, it can be done. do it. right now he's taking on a member of congress.

for squandering billions of dollars in baltimore. administration officials explaining the large sum that's going to the city. >> president trump has given $16 billion in 2018 alone to elijah cummings district in federal grants. my question to you guys is this. what are you actually doing with the money so that it benefits residents in the community, for once instead of politicians? >> jesse: finally, president trump is sticking to the facts. the media is ignoring them, saying they don't have data to back up their points. >> won a president says rat and rodent infested, what do you think? is that racism? >> let's talk about the word infested when it was used against our jewish brothers and sisters through the holocaust. >> there's so many stunning parallels to what hitler was doing. >> he's taken all the worst qualities of every fascist dictator. he is mimicking them. he's repeating them. >> jesse: i think, what happened is they try to play the race card, and it didn't work. they bring in the hitler card. it's idiotic. >> greg: is no