frank figliuzzi, jeremy bash, our thanks. and coming up, as mueller day comes to a close, a look at where we go from here. and the next witness on the democrats' wish list. what are the chances of that? >>> the very next step either tomorrow or friday is we're going into court to enforce -- to ask for the grand jury material and to enforce the subpoena against mr. mcgahn. and that's particularly important because the excuses, and i won't call them reasons, the excuses that the white house gives for mcgahn not testifying, the nonsense about absolute immunity, et cetera, are the same excuses for all the other fact witnesses. and if we break that, we'll break the logjam. >> it's not clear whether mueller's testimony moved the needle either way on impeachment. it was interesting to hear jackie speier, fellow member of the california delegation, saying about the speaker tonight she may be softening toward impeachment. investigations sparked by the mueller report are far from over. that much we know. don mcgahn, he of former white

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frank figliuzzi, i have to start with you. we've all had countless conversations about this sdny case, what they might be doing, what they might be building. and when everyone came out and tried to assert there wasn't an underlying crime for robert mueller's investigation, you and jeremy and others pointed back to this investigation out of sdny where donald trump is named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the cohen sentencing documents. talk about the significance of today's development. >> well, in case we wineeded mo dramia attached to this, we have a federal judge saying this is of national importance. let's look at specifically what he's talking about. the probable cause that went into the affidavit and search of cohen's home and offices. what does that mean? when you write that affidavit you're convincing a judge that location or those multiple locations are likely to contain evidence of the crime that you're investigating. so what can we find out when this material is released. we know there will be some redactions. usu

frank figliuzzi, thank you for spending some time with us. we will be calling on you early and often this week, i'm sure. >>> after the break as annie was alluding to, doubling down on doubling down. donald trump and mike pence and gop throw more gasoline on the race prices they created last week. now at least they have an appropriate spokesperson. we will show you stephen miller's grilling by fox news. >>> the puerto rican crisis. as the people of puerto rico take to the streets to demand the governor step down, our friend rosie perez joins the table. with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn's, your plans can change in minutes. your head wants to do one thing, but your gut says, "not today." if your current treatment isn't working, ask your doctor about entyvio. entyvio acts specifically in the gi tract to prevent an excess of white blood cells from entering and causing damaging inflammation. entyvio has helped many patients achieve long-term relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after

frank figliuzzi, former fbi director for counterterrorism who worked for robert mueller during his career in law enforcement. we welcome you both. frank, i would like to start with you. has time given you any more, any further perspective on what our friends, the historians, will take on, the degree to which this attorney general gave the man who hired him, the president, the air cover he needed during those first crucial days before we had seen the report? >> brian, as the calendar collection by it becomes more and more apparent that this attorney general is essentially aiding and abetting concealment of what the special counsel actually found. and he is in conspiracy with this white house to disguise the findings of the special counsel. we have a special counsel who played by the rules because that's what we expect special counsels to do. and we have an attorney general who pulled those rules like a rug out from under bob mueller. it felt like a sucker punch to the american people. but now we're a nation wrestling with that question, what to do with substantial evidence of wrongdoing ag

julia ansley, nbc news national justice and national security reporter, frank figliuzzi, former assistant fbi director for counter-terrorism who worked for robert mueller during his career in law enforcement. welcome to you both. frank, has time given you any more, any further perspective on what our friends, the historians will take on, the degree to which this attorney general gave the man who hired him the president, the air cover he needed during those crucial first days before we'd seen the report? >> right. as the calendar clicks by it becomes more and more parent that this attorney general is essentially aiding and abetting concealment of what the special counsel actually found and he is in conspiracy with this white house to disguise the findings of the special counsel. we have a special counsel who played by the rules because that's what we expect special counsels to do. and we have an attorney general who pulled those rules like a rug out from under bob mueller. it felt like a sucker punch to the american people but now we're a nation wrestling with that question, what to do wit

. >> and frank figliuzzi pointed out, and i think frank is back, donald trump may have revealed and rachel maddow pointed this out as well -- i'm sorry, i have been here a long time. robert mueller may have revealed or even let it slip that there is an ongoing and open counterintelligence investigation. frank, set that up for us. >> yes, again, i want to see this clip because we only saw it live but i believe it was representative christian mirthy who asked for a response and mueller said they're looking into the multiple aspects of the investigation continue. and he said currently? and mueller said yes. if i've got that right in any way, shape or form, there's still an ongoing inquiry, in fact the original russian counterintelligence case that started this whole thing off, that andy mccabe added trump's name to and then it became the special counsel inquiry, that aspect of it may still be going on. >> let's watch the tape. we will come right back to you, frank. >> it was outside the purview of your investigation, your report did not address how flynn's false statements could pose a nation

to frank figliuzzi, to mieke eoyang, our thanks for making time to come on tonight. another break for us. and coming up, civil rights icon democratic congressman john lewis reflecting on the destructive and dangerous words spoken by the commander in chief just these past few days when we come back. >>> with all that is coming out of this white house and this president, earlier this morning, we got a chance to speak with a living icon of the civil rights movement, a 32-year veteran of the u.s. house of representatives, democratic congressman john lewis of georgia. we started with discussing the language of race that the president has deployed just this week. congressman, thank you very much for coming on our broadcast tonight. i want to talk about how this week started for this president. i'm just back from the memorial for peace and justice in montgomery, so, this is all very current, very top of mind. for a man like you, it's current and top of mind, when you wake up in the morning and get dressed. it's current and top of mind every moment that you are awake. why ar

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to frank figliuzzi, to mieke eoyang, our thanks for making time to come on tonight. another break for us. and coming up, civil rights icon democratic congressman john lewis reflecting on the destructive and dangerous words spoken by the commander in chief just these past few days when we come back. >>> with all that is coming out of this white house and the president earlier this evening we got the chance to speak with a living icon of the civil rights movement. a 32 year vet of the u.s. house of representatives. democratic congressman of georgia. we started by discussing the language of race the president employed this week. >> congressman, thank you for coming on our prod cast tonight. i want to talk about how this week started from the president. i have to say, i'm just back from the national memorial for peace and justice in montgomery. this is all very current. very top of mind. for a man like you, it's current and top of mind when you wake up in the morning and get dressed. it's current every moment you are awake. why are these troeps so damaging, so destructiv

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the second was former assistant director of the fbi frank figliuzzi, and jason is the third. why aren't the directors of the fbi up on capitol hill testifying about what is being done? i mean after anti-semitic attacks anywhere in the world, i live in a city where centers of worship at jewish community centers are fortified by police presence and otherwise. two-part question, is there a concern, do you feel as concerned as frank figliuzzi and congresswoman bass and jason? and if you do, do you encourage your fellow democrats and republicans to dig in on this and understand what law enforcement is doing to protect fellow americans? >> well, i'm deeply concerned. you know, unlike presidents of the united states and cabinet members, members of congress travel throughout their district. they are not protected on an ongoing basis. they are very vulnerable as we've seen in the past. i worry that the president by inciting this -- and let's be clear, the president said he was distancing himself from the chants that were going on in greenville, north carolina, last night. but he wasn'

. >> frank figliuzzi, and mimi, let me bring both of you into this. frank, let me start with you. i want to know from your perspective, just contrast what julie laid out that today the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york basically had a wanted poster up of jeffrey epstein looking for more victims to build his criminal case where in 2008, the defense attorney, a former colleague of then u.s. attorney alex acosta met off campus, off site, outside of the u.s. attorney offices in south florida, and worked out what sounds like a non-prosecution agreement, so outside the norm that it would appear to me that u.s. attorney jeff berman rebuked it in his public statement today! yeah, nicole, i supervised one of the squads in the history of the fbi in the san francisco division. i served as the number two official in fbi miami division prior to this case coming out and i have to tell you something, as try as i might to think of any analogous plea deal where you would allow a defendant's case to go to the state, yes, maybe, that you would allow the state sentence to let you ou

. >> joining us now, frank figliuzzi, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the feb and at the table nbc news correspondent carol lee. carol, i want to ask you this question, who is this man, mr. ratcliffe, who will now be the most powerful person in our intelligence bureaucracy? >> as you pointed out, he's a strong supporter of president trump. he was elected to the house in 2014. he comes from a very, very republican district. one of the most republican in the house. he's served on the intelligence committee but he doesn't have the kind of background we have typically seen with the previous five dnis. so that's one of the criticisms he's getting. but he has criticized the fbi for being biased. he's, you know, as we saw from the clip brought into a lot of the republican -- he bought into the republican line that the president is being wrongfully investigated and he's really curried favor with the president. and obviously his questioning is in the light of what we know, they had met and discussed this job and he was going to be put forward for it really kind of casts a d

with us at the table former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi, frank figliuzzi. karine jean-pierre is back, senior adviser to moveon.org and executive editor for bloomberg opinion. tim o'brien is here. i want to start with you, joyce vance, and just leap into a parallel universe where on the day that it is unsustainable for the labor secretary to continue to serve in the trump administration, no one utterst word victim. no one says a word about a mischarge of justice. all they say is read the james patterson fictionalized version of the sex scandal. i never liked him and i and did the make acosta go. what is happening, joyce? >> trump just doesn't seem to understand that justice isn't just another deal. and this is so lard i think to watch as a prosecutor knowing that when you enter into a plea agreement in a case, you have equity that's you have to be aware of. you have a community. you have victims. you have the courts and you're trying to do the right thing. you're not just delivering a deal. the president apparently views this as purely transactional. it's an

frank figliuzzi thinks so. frank, your thoughts. >> yeah, look. i want to be sure we're accurate on this. but here's what i heard. and, nicole, you touched on this but we need to pull this thread which is i think we had a big reveal in this second session today. we had bob mueller who was reticent to answer over 100 questions kept saying something was classified or investigated methods or internal deliberations. but yet in response to a question he said the fbi is still investigating the counterintelligence aspects of trump and russia. and it got my attention. i said to myself did he just use present tense. and then the questioning member of congress do you mean currently. and mueller quickly said yes. that is a big reveal. so for counterintelligence guy like myself, this means we have not still yet answered the question as to whether or not this president is compromised vulnerable. we certainly learned today that everyone around him put themselves in a compromised position mostly for greed. but yet we've learned today the fbi case is still going