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because jim crow was the basis on which that piece was in fact constructed. >> you don't think joe biden -- >> that's not the point. that's not the point. you can -- and that's why i said secondary endorsement, right? what he is endorsing is the peace. but the peace is actually built on something quite horrible. and without that horrible thing, there never would have been that civility in the first place. >> the. >> it's a story of reconstruction, redemption. that extends to him having that great relationship with herman. >> it's remarkable how much there is untold or needs to be retold time and time again, which brings me to your novel, which comes out in september, which i just finished. >> are we talking about this? >> we're not talking about it. it's "water dancer" and it's remarkable and it's really a beautiful piece of work. >> thank you. >> people should check it out. ta-nehisi coates, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >>> coming up, the draconian abortion restrictions passed in georgia, and the extraordinary efforts to fight them. former gubernatorial candidate stac

the privilege is jim crow. walters sees that at times, black elites at least were not ready to robustly criticize and mobilize against that privilege. once they became ensconced in the democratic party and in leadership and economic privilege themselves, they were milquetoast at times in trying to push back against the levels of privilege and the levels of policyanimus that marked in the 1980's and 1990's. in this context i'm talking about black elected officials who voted for reagan drug laws and crime reform, black elected officials, anybody who voted for the clinton crime bill are welfare reform. these are things that will negatively impact, but at this point these folks are no longer accountable to the black electorate. so walters is a trailblazer. he doesn't have a prescription on how to win, but he is saying, here are the problems. sometimes really illustrating what the problems are becomes a huge intervention. it becomes up to another generation to try to answer those questions, but that is what walters

because jim crow was the basis on which that piece was in fact constructed. >> you don't think joe biden -- >> that's not the point. that's not the point. you can -- and that's why i said secondary endorsement, right? what he is endorsing is the peace. but the peace is actually built on something quite horrible. and without that horrible thing, there never would have been that civility in the first place. >> it's a story of reconstruction, redemption. that extends to him having that great relationship with herman. >> it's remarkable how much there is untold or needs to be retold time and time again, which brings me to your novel, which comes out in september, which i just finished. >> are we talking about this? >> we're not talking about it. it's "water dancer" and it's remarkable and it's really a beautiful piece of work. >> thank you. >> people should check it out. ta-nehisi coates, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >>> coming up, the draconian abortion restrictions passed in georgia, and the extraordinary efforts to fight them. former gubernatorial candidate stacey abram

the privilege is jim crow. walters sees that at times, black elites, at least, were not ready to robustly criticize and mobilize against that privilege. once they became ensconced in the democratic party and in leadership and economic privilege themselves, they were milquetoast at times in trying to push back against the levels of privilege and the levels of racial animus that marked policy in the 1980's and 1990's. in this context, i'm thinking about black elected officials who voted for reagan drug laws and crime reform. i'm thinking of black elected officials, anybody who voted for the clinton crime bill are welfare reform. these are things that will negatively impact, but at this point, these folks are no longer accountable to the black quotidienne. so walters is a trailblazer. he doesn't have a prescription on how to win, but he is saying, here are the problems. sometimes really illustrating what the problems are becomes a huge intervention. it becomes up to another generation to try to answer those questi

but the tragic jim crow laws affected tension in the workplace and school systems. however public policy began to shift in favor of african americans. president frank d roosevelt gave a 1941 freedom of speech talk and promise that, >> men of every creed and every race were entitled to freedom. >> freedom means the privacy of human rights everywhere. all those and those who struggle to gain those rights and keep them. our strength is our unity. he pledged to overcome dictators in countries that deny other people their freedom. he promised an end to this termination. and yet, action was slow to follow. >> in 1952 a newspaper at caught the attention of my sister, who my husband and i were living with peer the ad read, reduce your household duties and women who are not afraid to roll up their sleeves and do jobs previously filled by men, should call the langley manorial adder nautical laboratory -- langley memorial aeronautical laboratory. >> years before this would've been unthinkable by those who would not of considered a woman for work that had been performed by men.

crow laws affected tension in the workplace and school systems. >> however public policy began , to shift in favor of african americans. president frank d roosevelt gave a 1941 freedom of speech talk promised that men of every creed and every race were entitled to freedom. >> freedom means the supremacy of human rights everywhere. all those and those who struggle to gain those rights and keep them. our strength is our unity. he pledged to overcome dictators in countries that deny other people their freedom. for years he promised an end to , this termination. and yet, action was slow to follow. show -- follow. >> in a newspaper at caught the 1952, attention of my sister, who my husband and i were living with. the ad read, reduce your household duties and women who are not afraid to roll up their sleeves and do jobs previously filled by men, should call the langley memorial aeronautical laboratory. that is what i did. years before this would've been , unthinkable by those who would not of considered a woman for work that had been performed by men. how tragic it was that highly intelli

and extending jim crow into the present, for me the current malu is not simply the next step. it's not that we're over old school segregation and mass incarceration, but thinking how techno-skie techno-scientific fixes containment and how it's important to understanding the impact of these technologies so it's a combination of coded inequity and often more subtle than past regimes of racial hierarchy, but also the key to the new jim code, really the distinction is that it's purportedly more objective and neutral than those prior regimes and so that's where the power and problematic of this regime takes place is that we put our guard down because we are promised that it's more neutral and objective and precisely when we put our guard down is when our antennas should go up in some ways to thinking critically about this and this came up a number of times in the previous panels and so i think there is a heightening consciousness around really being aware of anything that is promised to be more objective and neutral, and so what we see here is a whole set of practices under that um

this woman known as the welfare queen were in the jim crow south. a hellacious upbringing. well documented. she landed right here in chicago and became the source of the welfare queen myth. a myth so manipulated by journalists and politicians. reverberate today. and it shows how stereotypes take hold and shape the american imagination. so in the way, the queen is a biography but also an important social history. it's a cautionary tale of the power of a single narrative to take shape and have an important, in this case distractive influence in the world. josh is the editorial director of sleep and he worked five years. and i think that's probably a minimum. it probably understating it has the research is incredible in this book. the reporting is extraordinary. found out kind no one else has looked at. he's interviewed people who have been ignored. it's just a remarkable feat. and it's an honor to speak with him about it and after the program. i hope you will go to the independent bookstore in the back and josh will find a copy. if i, thank you. [applause] - - goodbye, thank

stewart: it was very complicated, there was still a great deal of jim crow racial segregation, not just in seven states but northern places as well. aspects of racial segregation that would go unaddressed until the civil rights movement and the post-world war ii era, resulting in famous legislation like brown v. board of education. you are probably aware interviewers are aware that that battle continues today in terms of ensuring equality for all in the united states. there was a project in the 1930's that was, get it because it was radical in the sense that the federal government was paying unemployed writers to collect local histories and local culture, and ended up soliciting from them interviews from former slaves. that meant you had people from genetically different backgrounds, different racial groups, different ethnic or cultural groups, different educational backgrounds, different socioeconomic classes trying to talk to each other across these divides them about the very highly charged topic of slavery and what it meant for african american citizenship in the 1930's. >> what is

stewart: it was very complicated, there was still a great deal of jim crow racial segregation, not just in seven states but northern places as well. aspects of racial segregation that would go unaddressed until the civil rights movement and the post-world war ii era, resulting in famous legislation like brown v. board of education. you are probably aware interviewers are aware that that battle continues today in terms of ensuring equality for all in the united states. there was a project in the 1930's that was, get it because it was radical in the sense that the federal government was paying unemployed writers to collect local histories and local culture, and ended up soliciting from them interviews from former slaves. people fromou had genetically different backgrounds, different racial groups, different ethnic or cultural groups, different educational backgrounds, different socioeconomic classes trying to talk to each other across these divides them about the daily -- the very highly charged topic of slavery and what it meant for african american citizenship in the 1930's. >> what is

the privilege is jim crow. one thing walters sees that at times, black elites at least were not ready to robustly criticize and mobilize against that privilege. once they became ensconced in the democratic party and in leadership and economic privilege themselves, they were milquetoast at times in trying to push back against the levels of privilege and the levels of racial animus that marked policy in the 1980's and 1990's. in this context i'm talking about black elected officials who voted for reagan drug laws and crime reform, black elected officials, anybody who voted for the clinton crime bill are or welfare reform. these are things that will negatively impact, but at this point these folks are no longer accountable to the black electorate. so walters is a trailblazer. he doesn't have a prescription on how to win, but he is saying, here are the problems. sometimes really illustrating what the problems are becomes a huge intervention. it becomes up to another generation to try to answer those questions, but

black americans have reason to become suspicious of white courts after jim crow. those that continue to inherit without a will have a very difficult time clearing that title and consolidating ownership. >> it becomes easy to lose that land. hairs' property is estimated to make up more than a third of southern black-owned land. $3.5 billion, a victim of laws and loopholes that allow speculators and developers acquire their property. they watch as ittist goes up for sale. how do you solve this? >> very difficult. on the federal level for the first time there is a proposed program to help them get their title. they haven't allocated funding. that's a first step. then smaller state levels picking up and expands heirs rights in partition cases in legal cases and there is a statute that makes it's easier to transfer through the records department instead of going to the court. >> pro publica contributing reporter lizzie presser, a freelance journalist and report are the. it is a worthwhile article. we will be back with a look at the markets after this. you're watching m

i hadn't read a story about black kids and jim crow and this particular kind of setting before. so, as an arti, there's material there. and just as a human being, living in america, trying to make sense of where we're going and where we came from. >> brown: three years ago, whitehead won both the pulitzer prize and national book award s novel "the underground railroad," set amid the horrors of the slave south, but imagining an alternative universe in which the "railroad"-- in reality, a series of escape routes and safo es-- is an actual subterranean train. his new novel, "the nickel boys," is a fictional account of the dozier school, a segregated institutat opened in 1900, touted itself as an enlightened center for wayward boys to avoid prison terms, but secretly coerced labor and mete ho-ific punishments in its called "white house," allegedly leading to the deaths of dozens, whose disapprance was unaccounted for. >> i first came across the news reports, that a lot of t survivors and the survivor groups had gotten together and were talking about what happened to them in the '50s

same jim crow with this felony disenfranchisement. and that is just another name for voter suppression. it absolutely serves no legitimate law enforcement purpose. it serves no public policy purpose or no public safety purpose. what it does serve is a sign of power and supremacy that derives from a strategy to politically marginalize communities of colour. that's what it serves as. just to make it real quick, according to united states department of justice, parole has three-fold purpose. one, it's to assist people on parole with problems concerning finances, residences. two, it protects people in society to assist incarcerated people by getting them into the community which prevents recidivism. and also parole prevents needless incarceration for those less likely to residivate. i'm told that i'm a citizen. i have all the burdens and responsibilities of a citizen. i'm a tax-paying citizen, but i don't have the same rights as a citizen. i have no say in what elected representative represents me, our district, nor do i have any say on h

i hadn't read a story about black kids and jim crow and this particular kind of setting before. so, as an artist, there's material there.st and s a human being, living in america, trying to make sense of where we're going and where we came from. >> brown: three years ago, whitehead won both the pulitzer prize and national book award for his no railroad," set amid the horrors of the slave south, but imagining an alternativeun erse in which the "railroad"-- in reality, a series of escape routes and saf- houss an actual subterranean train. his new novel, "the nickel boys," is a fictional account of the dozier school, a segregated institution that opened in 1900, touted itself as an enlightened center for wayward b avoid prison terms, but secretly erced labor and meted ou horrif punishments in its so- called "white house," allegedly leading to the deaths of dozens, whose disappearancacwas unted for. >> i first came across the news reports, that a lot of the survivors and the survivor groups had gotten together and re talking about what happened to them in the '50s and '60s were whit

crow. >> martha: i just want to reiterate the language there because it is very strong language. he says every single institution and structure that we have in this country still reflects the legacy of slavery and segregation and jim crow. what you think about that, sir? >> that's really sad. i don't know who taught him to hate america so much. to think that all americans think that all institutions are like that, that's very sad. but look at it politically. if the majority of americans are opposed to this issue. and try taking it to battleground states like wisconsin or ohio or michigan. states that were on the union side of the civil war, thank you for winning the war and abolishing slavery, but now you're all guilty and are all part of this institutional racism. that just isn't going to fly. >> martha: i'm sure he would disagree with you that he hates america but i understand your point and looking at the fact that he says that every single institution and structure still reflects the le

stewart: it was very complicated, there was still a great deal of jim crow racial segregation, not just in seven southern states but northern places as well. aspects of racial segregation that would go unaddressed until the civil rights movement and the post-world war ii era, resulting in famous legislation like brown v. board of education. you are probably aware interviewers are aware that that battle continues today in terms of ensuring equality for all in the united states. there was a project in the 1930's that was, get it because it was radical in the sense that the federal government was paying unemployed writers to collect local histories and local culture, and ended up soliciting from them interviews from former slaves. that meant you had people from genetically different backgrounds, different racial groups, different ethnic or cultural groups, different educational backgrounds, different socioeconomic classes trying to talk to each other across these divides them about the very highly charged topic of slavery and what it meant for african american citizenship in the 1930's. >>

. >> the legacy of slavery segregation, jim crow, it's alive and well in every aspect of the economy and in the country today. as president, i will sign into law a new voting rights act. i will sign into law sheila jackson lee's reparations bill so we can have the national conversation. >> laura: is jim crow still alive and well with black employment at record levels question >> it's not. "new york post," fox publication, came out and quoted the quinnipiac poll, 51% of the country said president trump is a racist. i applaud you for saying in the previous segment trump needs to lower the temperature. he said a couple years ago what if you got to lose, give me a chance. why doesn't he go to baltimore like you were suggesting. 51% of this country right noww believes trump is a racist. what is that tell you? >> do you know why that is? >> let me finish. the only person who's been honest as laura ingraham because she said she needs to lower the temperature. >> do you know why that is? "the new york times," "washington post," all the talking heads lie about the president. they lie about th

you know, my family is based in the atlanta area originally, and many of them grew up in the jim crow south, obviously. my mother, just one generation from me, grew up in the jim crow south where her school was the first integrated school district in her area. these are very personal issues, and this president speaks with the casual racism of bull connor. okay? that's what this guy sounds like. he doesn't sound like somebody who wants to unite who wants to bring people together. you know, just from a political standpoint, usually around this time in a presidency, this is when a president is thinking about how do i reach out, if i'm barack obama, how do i want to cut deficit spending so i can reach out? if i'm george w. bush, i want to talk about hiv in africa, so on, so forth. this president has no interest in uniting and, tank frankly, m be the only modern president who has no agenda to reach out to the half of the country who didn't vote for him. >> michael, in my life, in my work, i opposed a lot of republican policies but i never heard a sitting president use this kind of language

there was still a great deal of jim crow racial segregation, not but in southern states, northern places, as well. aspects of racial segregation that would go unaddressed until the civil rights movement and the post-world war ii era, resulting in famous legislation like brown v. board of education. as you're probably aware and your viewers are aware, that's a battle that continues today in terms of ensuring equality for all in the united states. there was a project in the 1930's that was, get it because it was radical in the sense that the federal government was paying unemployed writers to collect local histories and local culture, and ended up really soliciting from them interviews from former slaves. that meant you had people from genetically different backgrounds, different racial groups, different ethnic or cultural groups, different educational backgrounds, different socioeconomic classes trying to talk to each other , trying to cross these divides about the very highly charged topic of slavery and what it meant for african american citizenship in the 1930's. >> what is the governm

there was still a great deal of jim crow racial segregation, not just in southern states, but northern places, as well. aspects of racial segregation that would go unaddressed until the civil rights movement and the post-world war ii era, resulting in famous legislation like brown v. board of education. to desegregate the public school districts. as you're probably aware and your viewers are aware, that's a battle that continues today in terms of ensuring equality for ll in the united states. there was a project in the 1930's that was, get it because it was radical in the sense that the federal government was paying unemployed writers to collect local histories and local culture, and ended up really soliciting from them interviews from former slaves. that meant you had people from genetically different backgrounds, different racial groups, different ethnic or cultural groups, different educational backgrounds, different socioeconomic classes trying to talk to each other, trying to cross these divides about the very highly charged topic of slavery and what it meant for african american

. >> the legacy of slavery, segregation, jim crow, it's alive and well in every aspect of the economy and in the country today. as president, i will sign into law a new voting rights act. i will sign into law sheila jackson lee's reparations bill so we can have the national conversation. >> laura: is jim crow still alive and well with black unemployment at -- black unemployment at record levels question >> it's not. "new york post," fox publication, came out and quoted the quinnipiac poll, 51% of the country said president trump as a racist. i applaud you for saying in the previous segment trump needs to lower the temperature. he said a couple years ago what if you got to lose, give me a chance. why doesn't he go to baltimore like you were suggesting. 51% of this country right now believes trump is a racist. what is that tell you? >> do you know why that is? >> let me finish. the only person who's been honest as laura ingraham because she said she needs to lower the temperature. >> do you know why that is? "the new york times," "washington post," all the talking heads lie about the pr

from slavery to civil war and reconstruction, jim crow and segregation, to civil rights era and today, race has run through america's story like a complex thread. this week, of course, this great fault line in america's identity opened up again after president trump used twitter to blast several democratic congress well of color -- congresswomen of color for criticizing the united states and being what he called un-american. he wrote in his now-infamous tweet: why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came? well, of course, they came from parts of america. but immediately the president was attacked by democrats, the media and others as a racist. the targets -- representatives alexandria ocasio-cortez, rashida tlaib, ilhan omar and ayanna pressley -- are all, of course, american citizens, and all but omar were born in the united states. so the president's assault was a particularly controversial one, evoking racist taunts against people of non-white ethnic backgrounds that have been made throughout history. now, it's the also true

from slavery to civil war and reconstruction, jim crow and segregation, to civil rights era and today, race has run through america's story like a complex thread. this week, of course, this great fault line in america's identity opened up again after president trump used twitter to blast several democratic congress well of

. >> the legacy of slavery and segregation and jim crow, suppression is alive and well in the economy and in the country. today. as president i will sign into law a new voting rights act, i will focus on education, address health care disparities but i will also sign into law sheila jackson lee's reparations bill so that we can have a national conversation we have waited too long in this country to have. >> laura: is jim crow still alivee and well, leo, with black employment at record levels? >> no, it's not alive and well. but i want to give you some news for everyone. new york pole, if ox publicatio publication, came out and quoted the quinnipiac poll, 51% of the country said that president trump is a racist and i applaud you for saying right in the previous segment trump needs to lower the temperature. he said a couple of years ago, what you got to lose? give me a chance. why don't you go to baltimore like you are suggesting with each spell shelby steele. 51% of this country right now believe that trump is a racist. does that tell you about his messaging? >> do know why that is? >>

but if we come up with this new strategy of jim crow laws, we can get the distraction so we can implement policies that enrich a few folks. and that enrichment, as we know, continued on until the 1929 stock market crash. it was all an economic distraction to pit whites versus blacks. go back and research how many people of color actually served in the assembly in virginia, and how rich our heritage was. and now we fast forward, and i am so glad he took about focusing on values and thinking about being strategic, because many times, just to be honest with you, when the muslim ban came up, i don't want people to defend muslims. i want people to defend the constitution, as you talked about. our collective values. you know how in the virginia house of delegates, there is one document on the wall? guess what that is? the statute for religious freedom. it sits behind my republican friends. it it's it' it's there -- sits there is a reminder that religious freedom in the western world began in the house of delegates here in virginia. we need to make sure that we recognize distractions, push .ack

from slavery to civil war and reconstruction, jim crow and segregation, to civil rights era and today, race has run through america's story like a complex thread. this week, of course, this great fault line in america's identity opened up again after president trump used twitter to blast several democratic congress well

crow laws, we can give this distraction so we can implement these policies that enrich a few folks. and that enrichment as we know continues on until 1929 when the stock market crashes and it was all an economic distraction to pick white versus black. go back and research it. how many people of color served in the virginia assembly and how rich our heritage was and now we fast forward and i'm so glad that you talk about focusing on values and thinking about being strategic because many times i'll just be honest, when the muslim ban came up, i don't want people to defend muslims. i want people to defend the constitution as you talk about, our collective values . this is not america and in the house of delegates there is one document on the wall. guess what that is? the statute for religious freedom. and it's sits right behind my republican friends and it sits there and it's a reminder that religious freedom in the western world again in the house of delegates here in virginia. so we need to make sure we recognize these distractions. push back against them. the bigger battles within o

crow. jesse: barack obama first black president never spoke about america's founding like that. we looked at his state of the unions and july 4th messages. he spoke in uplifting ways. you have a d-lister like beto saying every institution, the military, the media, medicine is racist. how are you going to be president of the united states when the whole thing is racist? laura: this is where it all lead. this is where their world view has to lead. if you think america is fatally fraud from the outset, then of course you think the constitutional provision that talks about your right to self-defense, second amendment. that has to go. free speech. religious liberty. well, only if your religious values don't conflict with the modern world view. tearing down statues, they will be burning books next. this is where it is. they have been teaching this for a long time. now it's becoming mainstream in the democrat party. even poor old joe biden is caught up in it. i don't think we'll see beto on any mo

crow. jesse: barack obama first black president never spoke about america's founding like that. we looked at his state of the unions and july 4th messages. he spoke in uplifting ways. you have a d-lister like beto saying every institution, the military, the media, medicine is racist. how are you going to be president of the united states when the whole thing is racist? laura: this is where it all lead. this is where their world view has to lead. if you think america is fatally fraud from the outset, then of course you think the constitutional provision that talks about your right to self-defense, second amendment. that has to go. free speech. religious liberty. well, only if your religious values don't conflict with the modern world view. tearing down statues, they will be burning books next. this is where it is. they have been teaching this for a long time. now it's becoming mainstream in the democrat party. even poor old joe biden is caught up in it. i don't think we'll see beto on any mo

jim crow in the south, i had shelby steele here, he acknowledges all this, says he was horrendous, then he says, we're free. he is talking to his fellow, we're free, be free, live free. do what you to want to do, but n you watch media today, and you watch individuals, the president was talking about today, a constant drum beat, i am starting to think, i want your opinion on this when we come back, it not about racism at all. it is about progressivism, if you don't agree with progressive ideology and the agenda more centralize different and redistribution of wealth, and so forth, you must be a racist, i will be interested in your take on that, we'll be right back. booking.com offers free so bookers can book now... and ask their boss later. [do you want breakfast or no?] free cancellations! [definitely breakfast.] how good is that? be a booker at booking.com. struggling to clean tough messes with wipes? try new mr. clean magic eraser sheets. just wet, squeeze and erase icky messes in microwaves and on stovetops for an amazing clean, get the power of mr. clean magic eraser in new disposabl