lindsey graham is a political wind sock. this is a guy who cares more about keeping his own job than the jobs of the people in south carolina. so what he has done is he has evolved. he is a chameleon. he is changing his colors just to benefit himself. he epitomizes what people hate about politics. this is somebody that i used to think had some type of moral compass, some type of background, but we have found in south carolina the question that you say you're hearing from tons of people, what happened to lindsey graham, i hear that all the time, in the grocery stores, in restaurants, walking on the street. people have said this is a guy i used to look up to, but now he has no backbone. he's just doing what's in his best interests, and that's sad. and that's why we're building an army, jaimeharrison.com to send trump back home. >> let me give you the devil's advocate of defense of the wind sock here. it's a state that the president won by 14 points. he represents the republican party in which the south carolina republicans i'm

lindsey graham is a political wind sock. this is a guy who cares more about keeping his own job than the jobs of the people in south carolina. so what he has done is he has evolved. he is a chameleon. he is changing his colors just to benefit himself. he epitomizes what people hate about politics. this is somebody that i used to think had some type of moral compass, some type of background, but we have found in south carolina the question that you say you're hearing from tons of people, what happened to lindsey graham, i hear that all the time, in the grocery stores, in restaurants, walking on the street. people have said this is a guy i used to look up to, but now he has no backbone. he's just doing what's in his best interests, and that's sad. and that's why we're building an army, jaime harrison.com to send trump back home. >> let me give you the devil's advocate of defense of the wind sock here. it's a state that the president won by 14 points. he represents the republican party in which the south carolina republicans i'

. >> lindsey graham, a man you know well, he wants to see the investigation first. the investigation into secretary acosta before deciding whether the hearing is necessary. >> it's okay that he wants to look at the background sheet before he makes the final addition. this is what he engages in. >> many times, the senate judiciary committee has been absent without leave when it came to the trump investigation, what little was done was done in the house side. so i hope that we see new life in the committee. the constitutional role is important and i hope lindsey graham will lead us forward in that regard. >> i spoke yesterday with preet bharara, the legal analyst. he believes it is significant that the public corruption unit over in new york, the southern district of new york, is on this case. how do you interpret that? >> i don't know. i have to leave it to preet. i have great respect for him. i remember when he was a staffer to then senator schumer. a very sharp fellow. i don't know about the corruption side of it. where it might delve.

. >> lindsey graham, a man you know well, he wants to see the investigation first. the investigation into secretary acosta before deciding whether the hearing is necessary. >> it's okay that he wants to look at the background sheet before he makes the final addition. this is what he engages in. >> many times, the senate judiciary committee has been absent without leave when it came to the trump investigation, what little was done was done in the house side. so i hope that we see new life in the committee. the constitutional role is important and i hope lindsey graham will lead us forward in that regard. >> i spoke yesterday with preet bharara, the legal analyst. he believes it is significant that the public corruption unit over in new york, the southern district of new york, is on this case. how do you interpret that? >> i don't know. i have to leave it to preet. i have great respect for him. i remember when he was a staffer to then senator schumer. a very sharp fellow. i don't know about the corruption side of it. where it might delve. it would be pure speculation.

>> lindsey graham went so far as calling the four freshman congresswoman communists but did say that the president shouldn't be concerning himself with the personal aspects of what those congresswomen may or may not be all about. what he should do is dictate policy and he will be on -- he should stick to policy and he'll be on safe ground. you know the president. he speaks his mind even when it seems to blow up from time to time. >> charles: how are democrats reacting? kristin fisher on capitol hill with more. >> charles, it's not just democrats. republicans too. there is bipartisan outrage on capitol hill today after president trump doubled down over what he said this weekend. let's start with one of the targets of the president's tweets, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. "hallmark language of white supremacist." trump feels comfortable leading the g.o.p. into outright racism and that should concern all americans." nancy pelosi was quick to come to her defense saying "when president trump tells four american congresswomen to go back to their countries, he reaffirms his plans t

i agree with lindsey graham. when we go down a different radioed road and show a difference of -- college educated high income mixed up with trump, they could get nervous about this. that's why we have to keep focused. >> you agree with lindsey graham, and i assume you meant the lindsey graham, that i prefer a policy dizzy bait. but tim alberta, he has a new book. congratulations on the book. when i was reading your book and when i was preparing for the show, i was thinking that lindsey graham is a character at the beginning of book and completely different character at the end of the book. in fact, take a listen to these two clips of lindsey graham, one from today, and one from 2015. >> no, i don't think his racist to say. i don't think a somali refugee embracing trump would not have been asked to go back. he's a rate-baiting xenophobic religious bigot. he doesn't represent my party. >> it's almost like he's been put through the machine of your book. this is the republican party before and after. are you surpris

in south carolina than, in fact, lindsey graham is. that is one reason why you saw there the senator from south carolina try to rationalize the racism. to your point, brendan boyle the democrat from pennsylvania who just happens to be white he, too, from an immigrant family tweeted the other day. he said, look. i am also from an immigrant family, also critical of the president, yet donald trump has never told me, a white man, to go back to where i came from. >> the other point you brought up which is very interesting about the political calculation for the president and his base, we have the u.s. census bureau projecting its data showing that the u.s. really as a whole as a country and in particular swing states, they're growing more diverse more quickly. obviously that raises the question, what could that mean for a president who continues to make derogatory comments and really trade in this racist rhetoric? >> it means that the 2020 race is going to make 2016 look like a stroll through the park. i mean, i think this is really only go

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no matter who it is, lindsey graham or whomever. you step in while they are a little domain is in flames you put out the fire for them by getting involved in -- >> melissa: i don't think so. >> katie: it forces nancy pelosi to put a resolution on the floor defending the extremist -- whenever they want to say -- squad. >> brian: i have a "seinfeld"-like complete circle. did you notice she didn't say anything when paul ryan in the present or battling over words in the book? >> harris: exactly. >> brian: she stayed out of it. >> harris: exactly. >> melissa: new reaction to the democrats postponing bob mueller's testimony by a week under a deal which allows lawmakers long dull knife or time to question. why a top republican says this will blow up in the democrats 'spaces. ♪ this is the couple who wanted to get away who used expedia to book the vacation rental which led to the discovery that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. expedia. everything you need to go. expedia. [music playing] jerry has a membership to this gy

lindsey graham encouraged you to go higher. >> i don't agree with him. he's a congressman, what am i supposed to do? i disagree with him. he said aim higher, shoot higher, what am i doigoing to d? these are people that hate our country. john, they hate our country. they hate it, i think with a passion. when they hear the way they talk about our country and when i hear the anti-semantic languag that they use. i do not believe this is good for the democratic party. certainly not the party i have known over the years. >> mr. president -- >> does it concern you that many people saw that tweet as racist and white nationalist groups are finding common cause with you on that pose? >> it does not concern me because many people agree with me. it does not say leave forever. it says leave. what will it says and what that says is they're not happy with the united states, if they are doing nothing but criticizing us all the time, you see these people walking down criticizing the united states, we just hit the highest stock market in history. all of these incredible m

chip roy spoke out and said he's wrong and lindsey graham said the president should aim higher. we've seen republicans criticize the president in the past when he's said racist things. charlottesville is a good example. why is it krikorians this time. >> the fact that they're largely silent speaks to the hold the president has over the republican party. we've increasingly seen republicans more and more reticent to publicly voice dissent or disagree with the administration and you're very much seeing a glaring example of that right now where it would be fairly easy to say that telling people of color much less sitting congressmen they should go home is one of the old e69 tropes in the book. there is no other interpretation but to suggest those individuals are somehow foreign when we're talking about four american citizens, two of whom are the first muslim women elected to congress. it's also worth noting some of those statements republicans have pointed out or have where they have spoken out they try to have it both ways. lindsey graham before he said that the president should ai

i can't figure out lindsey graham. i really can't. i don't know what happened to him. it's almost as if an alien has abducted him and we have some creature there who is spouting out things that lindsey graham never believed and never stood for. but the fact is i am staying in the republican party. i haven't done what david has because i will not be driven out of a party with whom i agree on important issues by a cult of people who treat the president of the united states as if he is the dear leader, as if their loyalty should be to him instead of to principle and to country. and i think he is destroying the republican party. i think what's going to happen in the next election is a lot of people are not going to vote for donald trump who voted for him last time, and a lot of people who didn't come out to vote are going to come out because they feel our democracy is threatened by this man. >> there is always this hope among certain people the fever breaks. that's a term barack obama used to use in interviews, david. and i think people think about the mccarthy moment, at

lindsey graham can subpoena, they have to come. they are former doj employees? >> laura: running out of time. but john, this may have affected the 2018 election. >> that was the goal! that was the goal! >> laura: to get them out of office or make sure the midterms when a certain way. never know how much it affected the election, but talk about meddling. >> didn't help it. >> laura: john, final thoughts. >> as you say, this was very cleverly done. i am still a big supporter of bob mueller as a person but after -- i think i might've been wrong. but you are raising very excellent points. actually, it looks like people took advantage of him and were driving the investigation, part is spew in the future of the country was at stake. that's when you better on the side of being careful on conflict checks and impartiality for the inheritance of impartiality is enough to throw you off an investigation and its your individual response believed to raise it. so they decided not to do that or bob mueller was out to lunch. i'm getting back to him my professional ethics. thank

shame on lindsey graham. shame on mitch mcconnell. call them by name like they are on the bench in church and call them to account for the spirit of refusal to side with those things that are right versus those things that are expedient. and the religious right in this country has a lot of splaining to do. you cannot stand in the name of god side by side with a man you think represents the blinkered horrible analysis of the gospel. this is not evangelical ambassador ship. this is the most truncated form of hate we've seen in this country and donald trump is the man who's done it and we are the worse as a country for it. >> it's interesting. you are the first guest i've heard today make that point. we talk about the republicans in congress. we talked about the financial backing of the republican party. we showed mr. mnuchin. but you made the ponint that fo cloth, with the religious leadership. >> that's right. >> what a night to consider where those teachings land you on speaking out on this. professor dyson, we always learn something

this is senator lindsey graham and fbi director wray. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> are the russians still trying to interfere in our election system? >> the russians are absolutely intent on trying to interfere with our elections through -- >> is it fair to say that everything we've done against russia has not deterred them enough? all the sanctions, all the talk, they're still at it? >> well, my view is until they stop, they haven't been deterred enough. >> and they're still doing it? >> yes. >> so malcolm, would that exchange -- with that exchange in mind, why has it been so tough for the president, for his loyalists for those around him to get on board with this? is it an innate kind of primal fear that the end of the story might be an ill legitimate election? >> you know, congress is going to determine whether the story ends properly, whether it's an illlegitimate election and they have the powers to do that. we haven't seen any effort for them to do that. they want to expose the information related to the mueller report

these are people that he has -- his father. >> lindsey graham is a perfect example. for lindsey graham in 2018, his approval rating at home was about 57%, something like that, 54%. a year later after he started hugging trump the way he did and not speaking out for what was right, guess what, he's at 74% now. that's what people see. they see what happened to lindsey graham and see it's a way to fend off a primary challenger. the numbers are there in many cases, actually. i don't think he's unique. >> i think also, though, felipe, when you look at this whole picture and you look, you hope they come out, i think it is the responsibility of democratic leadership to energize because one of the things that saddens me as i opened up when i woke up this morning and this is even before the baltimore tweet, is that are the democrats learning how to message in a way that would energize? trump knows thousand energize his base, but the democrats don't seem to be able to crystallize. do you understand we're talking about a head of state that's talking about american citizens, comp

lindsey graham can subpoena they have to come. they are former doj employees? >> laura: running out of time. but john, this may have affected the 2018 election. >> that was the goal! that was the goal! >> laura: to get them out of office or make sure the midterms went a certain way. never know how much it affected the election, but talk about meddling. >> didn't help it. >> laura: john, final thoughts. >> as you say, this was very cleverly done. i am still a big supporter of bob mueller as a person but after that terrible performance yesterday, i think it's perfectly legitimate. i think i might have been wrong. but you are raising very excellent points. actually, it looks like people took advantage of him and were driving the investigation >> the future of the country was at stake.t that's when you better err on the side of being careful on conflict checks and impartiality for the inheritance of impartiality is enough to throw you off an investigation and its your individual response believed to raise it. so they decided not to do that or bob mueller was out to

so let me just -- one example is senator lindsey graham. let me just play for you how lindsey graham reacted. >> we all know that aoc and this crowd are a bunch of communists. they hate israel, they hate our own country. they're calling the guards along our border, the border patrol agents, concentration camp guards. they accuse people who support israel of doing it for the benjamins. they're anti-semitic, anti-america. don't get that, aim higher. >> that's basically all he has to say to the president was aim higher than that. >> i can tell you the fact that you can count on just 19 republicans to step up and say anything negative of all those who identify with the republican party of the united states just tells it all as far as i'm concerned. my friend and colleague whom i've worked with over the years, senator graham, really was off base the things he said about these four women. calling them communist, come on. that harkens back to one of the darkest periods in american history where critics of the government even if i despise or disagr

. >>> senator lindsey graham's judiciary committee hasn't done much since he took over the committee but he's pushing ahead with a gift to the biggest corporate lobbyist in this country. the business round table, the chamber of commerce, koch brothers, big tech. he's pushing ahead and doing his master's bidding all at the expense of american taxpayers and american working men and women. senate bill 386, it's already passed in the house as hr1044. it would remove green card limits on workers from other countries. what that means is that big countries like india and china, and there are no big ner terms of population, will be packing the green card lines with as many h1 brrks vis1 works visa wt they like able to take u.s. jobs at significantly lower pay. a real blow to the american dream. take a look at these top ten companies that sponsor h1b visas. of them only five are based on inkopt corporated in the united states. three others incorporated in india. and sources at u.s. citizenship and immigration services say if country caps are scrapped, as is the intent of the senate 386, india

paul ryan is not alone, to your point of lindsey graham and others. at least paul ryan will in retirement say what's really on his mind. i don't know that we'll get that from any of these other folks. that's not meant to be an ad hominem attack, it's an observational reality. you had rick perry call donald trump a cancer on conservatism. that's something we conveniently forget. ted cruz, we all know the saga. these folks who have come to jesus and made their peace with donald trump. there's a reason for it. it's because they're terrified of him. they understand that this is trump's party. that his base is fully behind him. that as unpopular as he may be with the broader electorate, with moderates and independents, he has a chokehold on the republican base. if they're on the wrong side of them, they're going to lose their jobs. >> paul ryan, rich of him to say sitting on the board of fox, is that where he's going to change the country for the better? is it fair? what is it? is it that donald trump is speaking a sort of vehement kind of racist invective

lindsey graham running to the president's side once again. he must be an exceptional caddie. he is hardly alone in his complete swoubordination to dond trump. only a handful of congressional republicans have voiced opposition at all. joining me now for more on the republican embrace of donald trump is tim alberta, chief political correspondent at politico magazine and author of new book of "american carnage." tim alberta, thanks for being here. the piece of your book that everybody's been talking about this week is paul ryan and this sort of agonized subsequent explanation of his life in politics. this is the quote. "we've gotten so numb to it all, says ryan, not in government, the way we live our lives, we have a responsibility to try to rebuild. don't call a woman a horse face. don't cheat on your wife. don't cheat on anything. be a good person. set a good example." he was probably, paul ryan, the biggest capitulator to trump of all. he would hide when donald trump would say something bad. is he the kind of patient zero of what happened to republicans? are they just scared

what lindsey graham did trying to quiet her is a disgusting moment. he's lost all opportunity to try to lead morally. he should take that back. >> i think we're seeing pathetic rationalization of every republican we've seen over the last five days. lindsey graham had some moments where he's talking about the crowd and a little too over the top. the basis of what he's saying, he's there to defend the president and there to defend take crowd that is screaming send her back. the idea that if she was wearing a maga hat would be fine, another way of saying the president is engaged with his political opponents and using the power of the presidency and the ability to whip up these crowds to attack his political opponents. it's a ridiculous, pathetic argument. a sitting senator making it is one of the reasons why people are so distraught before. >> thank you both for being with us. i want to bring in from capitol hill steve cohen democrat from tennessee and member of the judiciary committee. by the way, somebody who voted against those articles of impeachment

the constitutional role is important and i hope lindsey graham will lead us forward in that regard. >> i spoke yesterday with preet bharara, the legal analyst. he believes it is significant that the public corruption unit over in new york, the southern district of new york, is on this case. how do you interpret that? >> i don't know. i have to leave it to preet. i have great respect for him. i remember when he was a staffer to then senator schumer. a very sharp fellow. i don't know about the corruption side of it. where it might delve. it would be pure speculation. >> because he's suggesting that perhaps there were some public figures who may emerge. no evidence of that but a lot of experts who know something about the southern district in northern are suggesting that. do you want more details on the nature of president trump's relationship with epstein? and bill clinton's relationship with epstein, for that matter. >> well, i don't know that that has been associated with any of the charges in florida or now in new york. his association with either of those presidents. so i wouldn't n

here is lindsey graham. >> aoc and this crowd are a bunch of communists. they hate israel, they hate our own country. they are calling the guards along our border the border patrol agents concentration camp guards. anti-semitic and anti-america. aim higher. talk about their policies. >> senator graham makes a good point. the more we hear about the four members of congress particularly alexandria ocasio-cortez views the less suburban voters like what they hear from her. her unfavorables are extremely high as we found from a leaked memo to the democratic caucus. her name i.d. is high and unfavorable views. the more we focus on their bad ideas the bert it is for the republican party. >> bill: omar over the weekend had a comment about how she feels about her level of patriotism and how it is misunderstood. watch. >> i believe, as an immigrant, i probably love this country more than anyone that is naturally born. you ask anybody in walking on the side of the street somewhere in the middle of the world they will tell you america the great. but we don't live valu

lindsey graham asked the president to aim higher while also calling the women communists. fox news senior political analyst brit hume: the comments of nativist, xenophobic, counterfactual, and politically stupid. president trump tweets the congressman are racist. if democrats were to unite around the foul language and racist hatred spewed from the mouths and actions of these very unpopular and unrepresentative congresswoman it will be interesting to seal it plays ou out. in another tweet the president demanded from them an apology. democrats have called president trumps tweets racist and divisive, the house speaker nancy pelosi calling for both parties to support a resolution that condemns what she calls his enough open tweet tweets. representative must be 13 tweeted this morning, it's important to note that the president's words telling the four women to go back to their country's hallmark language of rights of premises. he feels comfortable leading the g.o.p. and outright racism and that should concern all americans. john roberts live from the north lawn. >> good afterno

lindsey graham will try to tell you otherwise, but 2015 lindsey graham, something's very different. >> he's a race baiting xenophobic religious bigot. >> where is that lindsey graham? while the president apparently couldn't be happier about how his racist attacks are playing with his supporters, all of this presents, this is what chris and i were talking about, all of this presents a very big problem for nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house, and her party. >> the president is clearly trying to cast this broader debate as a choice between him and your more progressive members. this fight has now dominated the conversation this week. you've had your resolution. the democrats are rallying behind these members. are you concerned that the president is goading you? >> no. you know what, with all due respect, let's not waste our time on that. we're not having him set our agenda, we're setting our own agenda. >> that's exactly the problem for the speaker. more the president doubles down on this racist attack, the more democrats fight back, the more attention is taken away from their agenda.

senator lindsey graham. who according to to a reporter said quote i really do believe if you're a somalia refugee who likes trump he won't say go back to somalia. racist says it because you're somalian or muslim or whatever. mar narcissism than anything else. later saying i believe if you support him fst different than if you don't. it's not about being from somalia. it's whether you support him or not. here's the thing. you can't sweep the president's racist comments under the rug for making excuses for what he said it. because he's frustrated or he didn't support -- you can't make an excuse for something racist. this is why he said it. he said it. what he said is racist. lindsey graham will try to tell you otherwise. 2015 lindsey graham something is differently. >> he's a race baiting, religious bigot. >> where is that lindsey graham? the president couldn't be happier about how the racist attacks are playing with support ers. all of this presents -- this is what we were talking about. all of this presents

you're the best golfer. >> jimmy: lindsey graham is probably the closest donald trump will ever come to owning a dog. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] on friday another cabinet member, the secretary of labor, alex acosta, resigned for his role approving a very light sentence given to the accused pedophile billionaire jeffrey epstein. and this was nuts. after acosta resigned because of this the president brought him out on the white house lawn to try to show some kind of solidarity. someone asked trump if acosta was a democrat and trump passed that question along. >> are you a democrat? >> i'm not, no. >> i have no idea. you know what i know? you know what i know about alex? he was a great student at harvard. he's hispanic, which i -- which i so admire. >> jimmy: yes indeed. it takes a lot of guts to be hispanic. it really does. [ laughter ] one of the things i admire about you, guillermo. [ cheers and applause ] vice president pence on friday took a tour of two detention centers in texas, where he questioned a group of children who were being kept very humanely locked up in cells

people like lindsey graham, lindsey graham was dead man walking in the republican primary in south carolina when he was confronting donald trump. now that he is his best friend forever, now that he's replaced john mccain with him, he's untouchable in that republican primary. he has made a choice. so are people like marco rubio, who were offended by trump. so are people like ted cruz who said his father were part of a conspiracy against jfk and insulted ted cruz's wife, they are eating out of the palm of his hand out of fear and cowardice and complicit because they care more about their political careers than they care about this country and about american values, plain and simple. >> listen, it's a remarkable time. it's a remarkable time in the country. we'll continue to follow this, poppy and i. we'll do our best to play it down the middle. there are some things you have to call out as they happen. ana navarro, doug heye, good to have you on. part of a continuing conversation. >>> still to come, jeffrey epstein accused of sex trafficking children, set to appear in a manhattan courtroom thi

you know, lindsey graham is worried he'll get primaried so he's completely reversed himself based on what he previously had said publicly about this president and, you know, ivanka trump who wants to move in social circles and jared kushner who portrayed themselves as these deep thinkers and stuff. the fact they are standing there silently while this man just demagogues people of color or anybody who he views as different and calls them foreigners-- extraordinary to me. appreciate you. >> thank you. >>> we'll talk to a democratic congresswoman and speaking out against the president's tweets and later, the republican who also in the vast majority who are not speaking out and details on julian assange's bizarre life hiding in the london embassy. something to see as you'll only see it on these monitors from the embassy itself. we'll be right back. let's see, aleve is proven better on pain than tylenol extra strength. and last longer with fewer pills. so why am i still thinking about this? i'll take aleve. aleve. proven better on pain. whoa. travis in it made it. it's amazing. oh is that

maria: actually, senator lindsey graham last week said he is willing to add aid to central america in the bill that he is bringing down. he says he wants to get a vote by the august recess. in a few minutes i'll be talking with mark morgan, senator, the acting head of customs and border protection. what do with the cbp to be doing right now? what do you want me to say to mark morgan who is coming up on the program? >> i have a lot -- i had a chance to talk with him. clearly want the funds to go into central america. want to stop the metering process on the border. which is preventing people from seeking safety that are at the southern border. right now they are in a mexican town that is controlled by gangs and drug dealers and they are at great risk. so we want to protect that population. we want people that have been clear from the point of view of not committing any crimes and seeking asylum to be released so they do not have to stay in detention longer than one or two days. that is what we would like to see at this stage. and yes, we do want to work together to improve our immigrat

we had senator lindsey graham on in the program two weeks ago. he said he was going to try to get a vote for his legislation that he's working on before the august recess. here's what he told me just two weeks ago, secretary. listen to this. >> i'm saying you can't apply for asylum in america anymore, you've got to do it in your home country or mexico. i'm also saying we can't process a minor claim in 20 days, give us more time to process minor claims for families. 30% of the people with small children are fake families. the word is out in central america you bring a small child to the united states, you're home free. i want to change that narrative. we're going to vote before the august recess. i am willing to spend money to help central america, democrats have mentioned that. i will do that, but we've got to change our laws, or this never stops. maria: that was two weeks ago. are the leadership in guatemala and honduras and el salvador getting the message, and tell me about that bill. i know you worked closely with senator graham on that, right

senator lindsey graham has a bill he is trying toñr push forward rightñr no that would absolutely overnight helpñr eliminate what youxd saw when we went down there with the vice president. congress needs to act. they know it and they're failing to do so. >> brennan: we're going to talk to senator dick durbin next, thank you. who is working with senator graham, who's legislation you mentioned here. senator durbin joins us from chicago. good morning to you, senator. >> good morning, margaret. >> brennan: you're in one of the cities where the i.c.e. arrests are expected to happen. what are you seein things, the third level in the community, particularly the hispanic community, have never seen it at this high level. i was handed this note by a young girl who is a high school student, ga gada loop.çó3 she couldn because she was crying so hard. she said her parents worked hard. the second thing i'm feeling sis amobile mobilization. and the families simply want a chance to be part of america's future. >> brennan: senator, you said many of these people haven't broken the law. according to i.c.e.

more narcissism than anything. >> that was senator lindsey graham there. gaby is back with us here. listen, this is obviously turning into a thing here. and you know that the president ands a allies are watching as lindsey graham is and democrats are watching as well. >> they are. it's very careful how lindsey graham chooses his words when he talks about the president, but specifically when he's been asked about this and racism. he's criticized the president a little bit. he says, you know, the president should aim higher. >> right. >> but then he's used pretty strong language in talk about the squad himself. he called them unamerican. you know, he criticized their policies pretty strongly. so he's trying to balk the president as one of his closest friends on capitol hill while also telling him to back off a little bit. >> i just think that the evolution that has happened over the last 48 hours of how republicans have tried to spin this has been so fascinating. because it really started out of the trump campaign. they saw an opportunity where the president said something that was ve

i want to play something from senator lindsey graham. he says that democrats are not consistent in their political stances with regard to this issue. let's listen. >> democrats are also advocat ing decriminalizing entry into the united states and providing free healthcare to illegal immigrants once they get here. they're becoming the part of open borders and free healthcare , and you can't deport somebody who lost their court case. this is insane, it's going to blow up in their face and it's really doing damage to our country. >> jon: so his point of view is that democrats lose on the immigration battle. how do you see it? >> what i see right now is that about as polarized a situation on immigration as we've had in years. lindsey graham, this may seem like ancient history given all that's happened in the past couple of years but lindsey graham is one of the members of the so-called gang of 8 which back in 2013 tried to gather republicans and democrats and pound out some sort of comprehensive immigration reform dealing with a lot of immig

, which lindsey graham took an oath to defend, it's your adoration of donald trump. lindsey graham is demonstrating for you daily what that supine, adjunct loyalty to trump is supposed to look like. note that for the man lindsey graham considers his boss, donald trump, love of his country and praise of the united states has not always been necessary tore a good american. >> folks, we're living in a third world country. the american dream is dead. our country is a mess. our infrastructure is falling apart. everybody knows what a mess our country is in. we are a mess. on you count our country is a mess. we have a mess of a country. of course i'm angry. who is not angry? they want me to say, no, i'm really not angry, i'm so happy. the country is a mess. i am angry. >> to review, donald trump has trashed this country for years, years, right up to the moment, the instant that he got to be president. now you have to love merkameri a america incritically because it's trump america. if you don't love america and if you don't love donald trump, you should leave. npr, adam ser

lindsey graham, he's going to get re-elected in south carolina. he's not going to go against the president. they're trying to walk the fine line. >> he's not racist, just a narcissist. that makes one hell of a bumper sticker. >> reporter: everything is fine, dave. >> we have "the draw" tonight on cnn to find out who will be on what stage with whom on july 30th and 31st. any thoughts on who you would like to see with each other on the stage? maybe your dream scenario. >> i would soon er pick a perso with a past dealing with credit card companies. bernie will be interesting. is there going to be a senator harris and vice president biden rematch. the opening question is who's going to be the breakout star of this particular debate? it obviously was senator harris this last one. is there anybody else who will be able to break out of the pack because there is a top, middle, lower tier. it seems like it will be even -- when the health care issue plays out, that's what's important. >> yes. >> impeachment vote, 95 democrats voting for impeachment, at leas

just this week we heard this from senator lindsey graham. watch this. >> we all know that aoc and this crowd are a bunch of communists. they hate israel. they hate our country. >> communist. is that a term leaders should throw around especially as an attack on four women of color? >> not at all. trump is in a long line. lindsey graham is in a long line of disgraced politicians, like joseph mccarthy who basically communists baited. and what these politicians do is they tell lies. they tell falsehoods to try and demonize minorities or demonize others. whether they be dissidents, political dissidents or whether they be catholics or jews or african-americans or asian-americans or italians or irish americans. they try to demonize, make them the other. and that's what trump has done. he did it when he started out with mexican americans. he did it with muslims. and now he's doing it with black americans. it's inaccurate. his tweets. it's hypocritical. but most significantly, it's un-american. it's against our first amendment, which embraces protest

lindsey graham is now the chairman of the senate judiciary committee. i have got to say -- i have to say, jon, that tirade yesterday, that's not just a new low point for lindsey graham. that may be a new low point for the republican party under donald trump. >> and it cries out, doesn't it, for the joseph welch moment which was the turning point in 1954 after mccarthy had launched his campaign against communism on lincoln's birthday in wheeling, west virginia. in 1953 he said i have the name of 205 communists in the pocket, it turned out he didn't have any. but it was a moment of fear, a moment of anxiety. and i must say when i saw that sort of flash by yesterday, i thought it was a joke at first. because i thought surely senator graham is not actually saying that. one of the things that does tell us, doesn't it, the demographic to which trump and senator graham and the other enablers are speaking. because there hasn't been a communist as a live threat to the united states since the presidency of george herbert walker bush nearly 30 years ago. and so --

knock it down a little bit whether the president will knock it down a bit as lindsey graham has suggested it is left to speculation we may have that answer he is set to appear in the white house south lawn in the coming hours where reporters may have the opportunity to ask him more about his comments and they were talking about the changes to the asylum legislation what are they doing without. yeah well this is one of the reasons why many people are speculating peter that the president may be lashing out right now he's getting a lot of criticism for some of his immigration policies the latest is an announcement by the department of homeland security and the department of justice that it will be changing as of tuesday the way that asylum is claimed in the united states this seems to be targeting those migrants heading up from central america namely from from countries like guatemala el salvador nicaragua that they will no longer be able to claim asylum because they have traveled through a so-called safe country in this case mexico what this will do is essentially shut down those asylum cla

it's why the moment with lindsey graham was such a disgusting one on capitol hill. leaders are intentionally shifting this from center back to love it or leave it, that if you don't love the country, go home. love to them is suggesting agreement. if you don't agree with republicans, you must go home. love it or leave it is essentially a narrative of quieting dissent in the united states and it is just as scary as center back. and i do believe what we've seen from donald trump, he will embrace that. there is a certain knavist and visceral appeal to it, but it is also why those who insulate him on capitol hill, if they don't understand, they're too affordable to be in office. >> our thanks to peter baker, kimberly atkins, david jolly, for starting off our conversation on this thursday night. >>> coming up for us, what we're learning from new documents released in the hush money case involving the president's former lawyer, michael cohen. >>> later, the lineup is set with much fanfare. we'll map out the democratic candidates, how they will share the stage over two more