-- when she opened a top-secret nsa memorandum. the highly-confidential memo revealed the united states was collaborating with britain in collecting sensitive information on united nations security council members in order to pressure them into supporting the iraq invasion. guided by her conscience, catherine -- katharine gun gun defied her g government and lead the memo to the press, setting off a chain of events that jeopardized her freedom andd safety, but also openened the dr to putting the entire iraq invasion on trial. acclaimed pentagon papers whistleblower, daniel ellsberg, described gun's action as "the most important and courageous leak i have ever seen." dan ellsberg saying -- "no one else -- including myself -- has ever done what katharine gun did: tell secret truths at personal risk, before an imminent war, in time, possibly, to avert it." well, now katharine gun's story is being told in theewew film "official secrets." isis is e trtrailer. >> katrine gun? what were you employed to do? intelligencanand reportednyththin

i -- he used to work for nsa, still does. he was there in the white house with everyone in the industry. everyone.that's good and then john bolton came and fired him. he didn't replace him at the white house. as the state department we have a small team, two small but nonetheless we had a team worrying about international norms and perhaps arms control negotiations. we really need cyber norms and international norms and control. so on paper the strategy looks good. there is little reaction going on to implement it in terms of regulation the trump administration literally says any new regulation has to identify two regulations to abolish the fourchon at one new one. i'm sure that is scientifically derived formula. but they won't regulated. regulation is an anathema to this administration and frankly to a lot of people in congress. so they say no regulation. what kind of the government does regulation and cyber all the time? it was in the book 12 different government agencies who have cyber regulations that the sect or level. t

when they tried to address security with the nsa we need to do a better job obviously. i have a proposal for that but were there can be oversight of the security by somebody else. >> and the contractors need to suffer. >> the other issue when the nsa or cia has a widely utilized system president obama decided based on recommendations of experts of which that i was one that if you discover a flaw that could be exploited in widely used software then you default the software manufacturer and you have to fix it. only in very rare occasions and very short periods of time should it be otherwise. but i'm not sure that's happening. and again the public has no way to penetrate whether or not that is happening but if that's the case then certainly the government knew about the server software and was probably using it for a couple of years and only then told microsoft about the leak anyway and that is unacceptable. because maybe that is used as an offense against the russians or somebody, the russians will see that to. they can figure out and they will go after american companies

they felt they had a trusted security in the nsa, and i think we need to do a better job obviously. the contractors need to suffer when they screw up because there is no penalty right now. the other issue though is when nsa or cia becomes aware of a vulnerability in a widely utilized system, what should they do? president obama decided based on recommendations of an outside group of experts which i was one of the default value is if you discover a flaw that could be exploited in widely used software, you told the software manufacturer and help them fix it. only in very rare occasions and for very short. of time should be otherwise. i am not sure that is happening and the public doesn't have any way of penetrating to know whether that is happening or not. but i think it is the case that certainly with one of cry that the government knew about a default in the microsoft server software and probably was using it for a couple of years and told microsoft after it was going to leak anyway. that is not acceptable and the reason it's not is wireless may be fun to use that in the offense aga

but the specifics about the cdr program i'm going to defer to nsa oh on. the three provisions i listed off are the ones that the fbi is most focused on. >> thank you. senator durbin. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. wray, welcome. i'd like to ask you a question. do you know what group was responsible20 for more homicide from 2000 to 2016, more than any other domestic extremist group? >> not sure. but i trust you're about to tell me. >> not a trick question. i raise that question because your testimony that was submitted to the committee talked about home grown violent extremist. in an unclassified fbi/dhs joint intelligence bulletin in may 2017 found that white supremacist extremism poses a persistent threate of lethal violence, went on to say white supremacists were responsible for more homicides from 2000 to 2016 than any other extremist movement. seven members of the committee joined me in writing a letter to you and attorney general barr explaining our concern about whether the fbi and department of justice were taking adequate measures to combat white

telecommunication providers that nsa was not authorized to receive. in march of this year the new york times and wall street journal both reported the nsa shut down the entire collection program in 2018 considering closing the program entirely what is the current status of the cdr program? >> really that is the nsa authority and i would defer to them for the latest and greatest on that. >> don't you think the abuse of that or the propriety of its collection has to be something we take into account in deciding in what way to reauthorize these programs? >> certainly that congress should make a thoughtful decision about reauthorization of many of those provisions of the patriot act and the questions of irregularities or even abuses are appropriate for congress that the specifics of the program i will defer to nsa. >> and those that the fbi is focused on. >> thank you mister chairman. director wray do you know what group was responsible for more homicides 2000 through 2016 more than any other domestic extremist group? >> i'm not sure but i'm sure you will

>> senator, as you alluded to in your question, that's really an nsa authority. i would defer to them for the lalte la latest and greatest on that. >> do you think abuse of that, impropriety of its collection has to be something we take into account in deciding whether or in what way to reauthorize these programs? >> certainly i think the congress should make a thoughtful decision about reauthorization of any of the provisions in the usa freedom act, and i think questions of errors or irregularities or abuses are appropriate for congress to take into account, but the specifics about the cdr program i'm going to defer to nsa on. three provisions i listed are the ones the fbi is most focused on. >> thank you. senator durbin. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. wray, welcome. i would like to ask you a question. do you know what group was responsible for more homicides from 2000 to 2016 more than any other domestic extremist group? >> not sure, but i trust you're about to tell me. >> not a trick question. i raise the question because your testimony that was submitted to

. >>> a former nsa contractor is set to spendt the nex nine years in prison. back in 2016, the fbi raided the home of harold mart uncovering a trove of classified documents inside his house, in his car and even his storage shed.e thase got a lot of attention because hacking tools used by the nsa had been published online. prosecutors never linked him to that leak but say his habit of keeping documents at his home didze jeopardi national security. >>> assault charges have been dropped against a well-known maryland high school football coach. bullis coach patrick salento's wife accusedf him o domestic violence but prosecutors discased the case saying tare was a l of evidence. he's won four conference championships at bullis. up of his former players is washington draft pick dwayne haskins. news 4 has reache out to see if he'll return to his job, and we're waiting to hear back. >>> neighbors in one prince george's county community say they will continue to fight after a 4.1 million square foot stics center was given a green light to go into their community. the p

had found that nsa employees were misusing nsa systems to listen in on the conversations of either their current spouses or former spouses or former levers. this wasn't what are two people. this was at least a dozen, and those are just the ones they can't. so i think for me, because i've been in this town for so long because i worked both in the intelligence community but also on the hill, and like sean i've been around for a lot of these surveillance battles over the last 15 years, what always concerns me is the backend process essentially for trying to keep tabs on the stuff. you can pass a law, and this is what the fort intelligence surveillance act was ostensibly designed to do when this past in 1978. 1978. it was designed to actually prevent the stuff that the foreign intelligence surveillance act is used to do today, , which is engaging and awful lot of mass spying on americans. the problem that we have and this is the point i would want to engage on is, our system as my former employer representative hold would take him our system is mostly self-correcting but my caveat to that is

we should be using that information in order to -- giving that stuff to the nsa and cia to dismantle those human smuggling rings. >> officials say that they will also collect migrants who may not be targets of these raids and conduct collateral deportations if they find people who might be near their targets. that something you approve of? >> look, i ultimately believe you should have a valid reason for being in this country and we should be using our resources in the most efficient way possible. and i think right now that's along the border. there's that hearing today in congress that talked about the detention of children. a number of ig reports and here's what's happening because i.c.e. and hhs don't have the resources to process people, that has turned border patrol into being in the detention game. that's not what they're designed for. so if we alleviate that bottleneck with i.c.e., that is going to make sure we don't have people in facilities that really shouldn't be in those facilities. >> i want to ask what you want to hear at these hearings today, and we're going to hear fro

that donald trump's nsa director lied and was indicted. that donald trump's campaign manager lied and was indicted. that donald trump's deputy campaign manager lied and was indicted. that the president's lawyer lied and was indicted. that the president's foreign policy expert lied and was not indicted. and as to the question of whether robert mueller believed that his investigation was a witch-hunt, we don't have to take his word for it. we can take the word of 60% of republicans who said in a poll two days ago that robert mueller ran a fair investigation. now, if that is a good day for the republican party in the age of trump, i'd hate to see a bad day for him. >>> coming up, the vice chairman of the senate intelligence committee, democrat mark warner is standing by. we'll get his take on yesterday's testimony next on "morning joe." on yesterday's testimony next on "morning joe." i wanted more from my copd medicine... ...that's why i've got the power of 1 2 3 medicines with trelegy. the only fda-approved 3-in-1 copd treatment . ♪trelegy

>>wearing the same wet and muddy came close in which they traveled ending the nsa it necessary detention of children. >>misty congresses. >>highest priority, but noticeably absent in the room were republicans typically hearings are held by committee is chaired by the majority republican party, democrats say the asked for a hearing on this topic and republicans were fused but texas republican senator john cornyn blamed democrats for congressional inaction i can only hope that this trip. >>that our democratic colleagues took. convince them it was time to quit playing games. >>and get serious and oklahoma republican jim inhofe says congress should work to stop migrants from coming into the us in the first place we don't have the. >>the resources to take care of unlimited people in the country president trump extended an olive branch over the weekend he tweeted that he's willing to meet with democrats to discuss what they witnessed at the border. >>in washington, i'm anna warning keep. >>9.11 survivors are one step closer to securing their compensation for decades to come. the us senate pass

clearly, they are taking longer to get flights back to normal than luftha nsa get flights back to normal than lufthansa r. —— than lufthansa are. labour has set out plans to stop private companies providing council services in england. shadow chancellorjohn mcdonnell says if the party wins the next election, outsourcing of work such as rubbish collections, would end within five years. susanna mendonca reports. who should be responsible for local services like bin collections, your local councils or the private companies they might be paying to do it for them? it is called outsourcing, a practice that was supposed to make it cheaper and more efficient to deliver local services, but labour says it's led to councils often paying a high price for a poor job and if it were in government, it would bring an end to most outsourcing in english councils within five years. to put it simply, the business model of outsourcing failed and is broken, and that's why it needs replacing. so after year upon year of failures, the public themselves have lost confidence in the privatisation of our public s

all the way to 20 miles per byron you see that 22 actually 12 into san francisco, 16 nsa phone 15 in the nevado temperatures not bad mama thursday evening and the middle of july here looking good 77 in san jose 78 in fremont cool 57 the fog in pacifica 67 just over the hill in san mateo 69 in oakland, 79 degrees in concord right now 70 to 57 degrees in tehran to 75 in san anselmo so certainly around the bay area of low clouds and march back on shore for tonight tomorrow patchy morning fog. i think in the afternoon maybe slightly cooler temperatures in the valleys, but it's actually going to warm up right along the coastline. because you see a little more sunshine will skies along the coast. then warmer weather ahead for the weekend. high pressure the big dome their eventual play a part in our weather as we head toward the middle of next week bring some hot weather here but both have this persistent trough kind of carve on the west coast. almost all of july and that's kept temperatures down quite a bit you can easily see these numbers soaring in the 90's even triple digits in this tim

and it is something that only affects one yelling, why have others like luftha nsa yelling, why have others like lufthansa some have been involved. —— because it is security, no one is probably going to tell us that.|j probably going to tell us that.” have spoken to thomas cook and easyj et have spoken to thomas cook and easyjet and they will be operating their flights absolutely normally, today for example. they say, of course we are calling foreign office advice but we believe we can conduct these operations perfectly safely. of course, there will be some thousands of people who were due to travel to egypt in the coming week on holiday, who may now be thinking, well, i am on holiday, who may now be thinking, well, iam not on holiday, who may now be thinking, well, i am not so sure about going. at the moment, because the foreign office says it is ok to go, but we‘re just concerned about aviation, there is no grounds on which you can change or cancel your trip without losing some or all of your money. the headlines on bbc news... philip hammond says he‘ll resign as chancell

does boris johnson, a man who clearly loves his own image, want to go on nsa as the man who —— in history as the man who forced the uk out of the eu and led to scotland leaving great britain, northern ireland being united with the republic, and great britain becoming little britain. i cannot imagine that is how he wants to be remembered. he has called it the awesome foursome. he has got to navigate something more than a hard brexit off a cliff or that is a very real possibility. nabila. mack on theissue real possibility. nabila. mack on the issue of the backstop, priti patel has suggested that the threat of starvation as in the irish famine could actually help resolve the backstop problem. so this is the kind of far right, reactionary comments and low intellect sound bites we're getting from members of this new administration and i think it will be a very short lived one and a new general election will be called shortly. and i think it is the wider population actually means at general election in the interest of democracy. as a us broadcaster put it, 0.30% of the uk population voted for b

i think that government, we have expensive computers, and fbi, and nsa. so, if they really top get in they can. but think about how valuable the backdoor would be as a thing too sell say to the chinese or to sell on open or black market. kennedy: once it exists, you can't make it unexist, this is the middle eas middle east prob- most problematic aspect ag's past, rand paul brought this up, he has a philosophy h that has t change or softened. >> you want these companies that not be in a position himselfs that look -- themselves to look on the your stuff, if you have a backdoor for the company that means that people in company know about, that think about how much nower that would give them, people thinking, you know, this is isi economy is cure but you know -- the information is secure, but they can get in what they want. -- is tough now you get to a missing they'l child, we have an iphone, i know other side but i get uncomfortable with government saying have you too make deficient products. kennedy: that is what warrants are for, a lot of tech companies h

operations abroad like the cia, counterespionage at home like the fbi, and cyber snooping like the nsa. >> when you hear the details of how the mss operates, you think it wouldn't be out of place in a spy movie. the number of employees is classified in the exact locations of its headquarters is unknown. it is a nondescript building in beijing. it doesn't have a public website or press office. what's clear is that the mss keyed to president xi jinping's efforts to tighten control over security. it's head is next police chief who helps direct nationwide anti-graft campaigns. national security law extended the mss's power to outer space in the deep sea as well as the internet. >> the mss benefits from close ties between the state in chinese tech giants like baidu and alibaba and tencent, all of which have the ability to mine personal data. other departments are required to cooperate with the mss and provide support for its activities. >> the mss operates secret detention facilities within china and is known for his harsh treatment of dissidents. for example, the blind civil rights lawyer

now what we know is the nsa is tracking our pattern and our data use and everything like that. that is an example where they think the constitution is updated. addressing this then and now. >> the first part of my book has these takeaways. you have to enforce it. no one will enforce it for you. this is a good way to get people to go on to these concepts. these things that we hear. i want strict construction as judges. there are scholars, myself included, what do you look into resolving ambiguity. they want answers. no one will pay a few hundred dollars an hour. it is hard and vague. they are not unreasonable searches and seizures. the framework in the 18th century, redcoats, banging down the door, going through your closet and finding the one thing that has personal information on it. that is what the understanding of it was. look to see what they thought. how are searches done now. the law developed that if you give people your parchment paper , you handed over, you don't have a fourth amendment protection. when we click, when we swipe, when we download, we take photos and pos

. >>> a judge sentenced the former nsa contractor to nine years in prison undera the preement harold martind pleade guilty to a single cou of willful retention of national defense information. he is accused of stealing and storing two decades worth of classified information in his maryland home. back in 2016 agents raided his home and discovered the classified information. martin's attorneys say their client is a hoarder who never betrayed his country. >>> three members of a white supremacist group will spend more than two years in prison for their part a deadly rally mb charlottesville, virginia you'll remer. members of the now defunct rise above movement were caught on amera assaulting counterprotesters before a planned unite the right rally two years ago. benjamin daly, and thomas gillen each pled guilty t conspiracy riot. a fourth man also pleaded guilty and will be sentencedlat a er date. >>> and virginia democratic state lawmakers say they will not attend the 400th commemorative session in jamestown later this month. president trump is expected to be there and the lawmakers say

keith alexander, when he was head of the nsa, said that the largest loss of wealth in our country has been with the chinese have done in regards to intellectual property, and i think that is a fact. china continues to pursue our secrets, whether it is in the private sector or the public sector. we have to take steps to protect ourselves from that loss of intellectual property. we have to protect ourselves in terms of our security. it is really important, if we are going to have these negotiations with regards to tariffs, that we also recognize the importance of china taking that weat will ensure protect our security at the same time. you can't do one without the other. they will have to be part of an integrated agreement when it comes to resolving those issues. ivid: finally, mr. secretary, want to turn back to afghanistan and iraq. there was a poll done of the general public and the veterans of iraq and afghanistan, which was quite striking. somewhatays was, by a narrow margin, people were more disapproving of what went on if they served over there than the general public. by the way

the woman from nsas picked up all 1,500 pair of shoes in the store and made the decision after her daughter saw a pair she wanted to buy for a friend at school beicuse she not his shoes were too small for him. not sure what size the friend wore, she asked what it would be to buy the rest of the shoes in the store. >> that is what it's all abou in the grandf scheme o things of everything that is going on in this country, this is a tiny blip. but if it continues to grow, it makes you do one little thing for that student fixing to go back to school, then it matters to that one kid. >> it really does. one pair of shoes could make a difference for a family. d e family has so many people reaching out annting to donate and they decided to throw a back-to-school bash before classes begin.lrfnu what way to pay it/dk÷ forward. >> teaching valuable lessons for the kid. >> yes. >> love that. >>> the suntd!h' is up. >> welcome back. c. hot and humid. >> welc[;<átack you were in europe and it was a little hot over there. >> it was like 100 and some odd degrees one day. >> youssdidn't mi the heat wave t

other point that's really important is we've seen those people that went and did that briefing today, nsa director, fbi director, dni. we've seen them come up there repeatedly and give a briefing. we've seen no budge in terms of legislation. mcconnell said there, he said more new legislation. some of these authorizations and acts have already been out there for two years. the honest ads act, which essentially says the disclosures that you would make for ads for radio, television, print like we would do here on this television show should be held for social media as well. why wouldn't we want to do that? why wouldn't we want to charge hacking as a federal crime or initiate sanctions against a foreign country for doing that? who is against these things? i also think the characterization that senator mcconnell makes that this is some big government coming down over local systems, i bet in many cases local and state electoral systems would love to have more support in terms of how they protect their systems, how they get information. we are not going and centralizing all these apparatus but w

the goal of nsa is to be a customer in lower earth orbit. we want to be one customer of many that will drive down our cost and of course have numerous providers competing on cost. steve: sky's the limit. jim bridenstine, thank you very much. brian: more "fox & friends" in just a moment. that a speaker is just a speaker. ♪ or - that the journey can't be the destination. most people haven't driven a lincoln. discover the lincoln approach to craftsmanship at the lincoln summer invitation. right now, get 0% apr on all 2019 lincoln vehicles plus no payments for up to 90 days. only at your lincoln dealer. plus no payments for up to 90 days. what sore muscles? what with advpounding head? .. advil is... relief that's fast. strength that lasts. you'll ask... what pain? with advil. has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed

i'm sure a lot has been done by the likes of the fbi and nsa and department of homeland security, et cetera. and i think probably a lot has been done on a state-by-state basis, probably not consistent. what's missing is the galvanizing effect that can only come from the presidential bully pull pit by calling the public's attention not just to the security of the voter apparatus, voter registration rules and tabulation, but also what the russians did and others will do to manipulate social media to influence and manipulate opinion. and the president's voice is missing and that's what concerns me about election security in 2020. >> and often sometimes amplifying those divisive messages. director clapper, always good to have you on the program. poppy, back to you. >> thank you, jim. >>> so listen to this, parents, you have no doubt heard that vaping, those e-cigarettes is an epidemic among teens. so why was a class of ninth graders told that vaping was totally safe during an in-school seminar on e diction? coming up lawmakers are saying how juul is creating a new generation of customers

you said that you are frankly disappointed when you look back at the last 10 to 15 years of nsa. nasa. can you explain? >> well, i think we just have not developed the highest performance, rockets and the appropriate spacecraft that we should have to be able to carry out of the challenges that we have and are facing. we have to deal with what we have. we will make the very most of it and i think i can contribute ideas to help it come out very, very well. >> martha: give me just one of those. if you could change one thing about the current space program or financing, what would it be? >> well, i think we need to go from earth orbit to lunar orbit and back and forth rather than a gateway. i think that's a diversion -- we are forced into it because of the lack of performance of the large rocket and the heavy spacecraft. but if we were to use 2 rockets and provide the propulsion and take the spacecraft to the moon, then we could go back and forth between orbit and the other. with a very capable fuelling on the surface, we would be learning step-by-step the sort of things that in 5 to

operations abroad like the cia, counterespionage at home like the fbi, and cyber snooping like the nsa. >> when you hear the details of how the mss operates, you think it wouldn't be out of place in a spy movie. the number of employees is classified and the exact location of its headquarters is unknown, but it is thought to be a nondescript building in beijing. it doesn't have a public website or press office. >> what's clear is that the mss is key to president xi jinping's efforts to tighten control over security. chiefad is a next police -- is an ex-police chief who helped direct nationwide anti-graft campaigns. in 2015, national security law extended the mss' power to outer space in the deep sea as well as the internet. >> the mss benefits from close ties between the state in chinese tech giants like baidu and alibaba and tencent, all of which have the ability to mine personal data. other government departments are required to cooperate with the mss and provide support for its activities. >> the mss operates secret detention facilities within china and is known for its harsh treatme

operations abroad, like the cia, counterespionage at home, like the fbi, and cyber snooping, like the nsa. >> when you hear the details of how the mss operates, you think it wouldn't be out of place in a spy movie. the number of employees is classified, and the exact location of its headquarters is an unknown, though it is thought to be a nondescript building in beijing. it doesn't have a public website or press office. >> what's clear is that the mss is key to president xi jinping's efforts to tighten control over security. its head is an ex-police chief who helped direct nationwide anti-graft campaigns. in 2015, national security law extended the mss' power to outer space in the deep sea as well as the internet. >> the mss benefits from close ties between the state in chinese tech giants like baidu and alibaba and tencent, all of which have the ability to mine personal data. other government departments are required to cooperate with the mss and provide support for its activities. >> the mss operates secret detention facilities within china and is known for its harsh treatment of dissid

he is the leader of our country, and it doesn't matter how hard the fbi agents and the nsa and cia work, if they don't have leadership at the top and a commander in chief directing them, giving them the resources they need, all the best resources will not prevent another attack. i see the threats every day. russia is determined to continue to do this. i fear we are more as a rule flect than we are in 2016, because russia and other countries will see the united states is open for business whether it comes to interference. >> do you worry the russians have the capability to actually change vote counts in the united states? >> yes. >>> so what needs to be done? >> bob mueller gave us a call to action yesterday. i thought it was hair-raising when he said this cannot be the new normal and the russians were attacking us at this moment. those were his words. unity is the best afternoon dote, but you don't see that from the president. i've tried not just to investigate, but also to legislate. i'm written legislation to tell every campaign to tell the fbi if they're offered dirt by a foreign age

having nsa doing what they're supposed to be doing again as opposed to looking at crash tests for brake pedals. >> neil: would you do that. >> absolutely. trump has led to a golden age in finding ways to flee the earth. >> i don't think i can -- if i can't figure out how to feed myself in the suburbs. i don't know how much hope there is for me on the moon. >> you won't deliver? what do you mean you won't deliver? >> what will i do? >> exactly. getting it up there. >> neil: this is no reason why i have no faith in the young. [laughter] >> neil: great folks regardless. in the meantime, start your weekend off cavuto live tomorrow morning. we will be looking at this and other issues. also senator tim scott on how republicans answer all this stuff on the markets. ♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone. i'm juan williams along with anna kooiman. lawrence jones, tammy bruce and john rich. yeah, really john rich is here today. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is the "the five." ♪ ♪ >> juan: president trump steering clear of politics in his salute to america fourth of july event yesterday on the nati

you've got the nsa, cia, elements of the fbi. you have all the military intelligence components and to come in without any real background or expertise, and how to manage that sprawling enterprise, i think, is a huge gap. if you look at the history of who has been dni, we've never had someone whose basic qualification for the job was that they appealed to the president because they shared their political agenda. and we know president obama -- president trump, sorry, will be shopping for intelligence that validates his world view. looking for intelligence that maybe russia isn't interfering in our election, looking for intelligence that north korea is not continuing to build nuclear weapons, which they are. what concerns me is that this person, ratcliffe, does not have the experience of managing this degree of intelligence collection and analysis, and also he seems like someone, based on that mueller performance, who is going to go looking for what the president wants to hear. and that is the opposite of what you want in an intell

nsa is very good at this. we know who they are and we've got their pictures. >> so you think it's possible. and presumably there will be some virtue in everybody getting involved in this conversation, the russians. so you would bring iran, north korea, everybody to the table? >> at the second step. as the first step i would get a community of like-minded nations together, basically the europeans and our asian allies and say you're all being attacked, too, you're vulnerable. let's agree on some norms of behavior. now, the russians do bomb hospitals in syria, as you well know. but norms help. so let's start by getting our friends together, agreeing on the do's and don'ts of cyber war and then invite everybody to the table. >> what would you do with the russian hacking, potential hacking of the u.s. election? >> first of all, i would pass the senator widen bill which is a bill that's similar to what has already passed to give the 4,000 counties and 50 states in the u.s. the money they need to be able to secure th

the head of the nsa, dod. commanded cyber command and the second army. you compare those res mays to congressman ratcliffe, he's been on the intelligence committee for six months. is that the experience necessary for this role? >> i think it is. you have to remember he has a very different role in the dni. he's not a technician. it's like the ceo of home depot isn't a plumber or an electrician. he's a business leader. and the dni is essentially someone who works with congress, works with the president. it's important that he has the president's trust. and he coordinates with all of these agencies. so it is a very difficult. and i think dan coats, who did a remarkable job, and i would like to take a moment to thank him for his service. i met with him for an hour last friday and the conversation we had reinforced what a great job he did. and he had a similar back ground to mr. ratcliffe. >> to be fair, he was a sitting senator for a number of years. ratcliffe only a couple of years. let's ask about the politics here. because as you know, you saw during the

operations abroad like the cia, counterespionage at home like the fbi, and cyber snooping like the nsa. >> when you hear the details of how the mss operates, you think it wouldn't be out of place in a spy movie. the number of employees is classified and the exact location of its headquarters is unknown, but it is thought to be a nondescript building in beijing. it doesn't have a public website or press office. >> what's clear is that the mss is key to president xi jinping's efforts to tighten control over security. its head is an ex-police chief who helped direct nationwide anti-graft campaigns. in 2015, national security law extended the mss' power to outer space in the deep sea as well as the internet. >> the mss benefits from close ties between the state in chinese tech giants like baidu and alibaba and tencent, all of which have the ability to mine personal data. other government departments are required to cooperate with the mss and provide support for its activities. >> the mss operates secret detention facilities within china and is known for its harsh treatment of dissidents. f

for more on what could be next, if that's at all possible, let's speak to former nsa attorney and cnn national security and legal analyst, susan hennessey. is this a done deal? is there any way to turn this around? >> i think that's the way to read it. sort of despite the president's tweets last night, the fact that the department of justice has said they are going to be printing the census without this citizenship question on it does sort of bring this case to a conclusion as it pertains to the 2020 census. what the supreme court had ruled was that the government's stated rationale for including this question was pretextual, and they sent it back to the lower courts. that opened the question of whether or not the citizenship question would ultimately be included on the census. the legal question is still technically open. this is all plaitiying out agai a printing deadline. the department of justice said they needed to start printing by july 1st in order to meet that deadline. the plaintiffs in that case said, no, you have up until october you can make changes. the fact the governmen

and the nsa just came out yesterday and said that they're going to create this new directorate that focuses on these outside activities. >> just remind people we're talking about devin nunes, of course. went over to the white house, delivered political information about the investigation as it was ongoing. that's always been controversial. i want to go back to the hearing yesterday. you noted the institutions are doing what they should. and have the concerns that they should about the russian attacks on the u.s. election. but you often don't hear the political leaders giving it voice. and that's so important. haven't heard it from the president who most of the time fails to even acknowledge the russia attack to the united states. but we didn't hear it yesterday from republicans. will hurd to his credit was the sole republican who asked any probing questions about russia attacks. >> former cia analyst. >> and he illicited long sentences from mueller which wasn't easy. but others had in retrospect almost shocking statements about the russia attacks. listen to what jordan said. >> you can char

his phone call with the russian ambassador was a highly classified nsa intercept. someone in the obama administration leaked that call to washington post. that's a felony. glenn simpson from fusion gps, in talking about the steele dossier, said under that he and bruce ohr did not meet until after the election. bruce ohr said under that they met three months before the let's. one of them -- before the election. one of them is not telling the truth. we need a process to identify that. where it all started, jim comey. he admitted that he leaked his confidential conversations with the president to a reporter. did that include classesfied information? -- classified information? we need a fair processes to find out answers to that. i trust, because bill barr has earned my trust already and the trust of the american people, that there'll be a fair processes with john durham and with michael horowitz to get answers to that and provide accountability where it really belongs. maria: and, obviously, if you've got a team of clinton donors like andrew weissman and the others th

that's being done, not by the cia or the nsa spy satellites. it's being done by a private company. you can go by their services and look at what the data can reveal. that's why i that's really exciting. if you want to go to the moon and mars, those should be developmental missions, , rnd missions and they shouldn't really clear purposes, as in the commercial operation should sort of come in behind them in a way that self sustaining. >> good answer. >> anybody else? >> you did some reporting on the challenger disaster. >> seven months of my life every day. >> so i wonder if you could comment a little bit about what is the morale at nasa now? do have a sense of that? i think you're right about what's going on with spacex and blue origin. >> there's a sense of excitement, , expectation. they are going somewhere. >> but where do you see that, you know, at nasa? >> also hit a couple of things. first of all i'd never met, i've certainly interviewed hundreds of people at nasa over 25 whatever it is, 30 years of covering nasa. i've never met anybody who wasn't smart and committed. and i th

you look at the other directors of agencies today, paul nakasony, director of the nsa, was prior the commander of cyber command and commander of u.s. second army and gina haspel has been there for decades and to have a congressman insuranced and served a few months on the house intelligence committee doesn't match up in terms of experience and it raises the question as cnn is reporting that would truly impress the president and had reservations about ratcliff, was his perform abc in the mueller testimony just last wednesday and his comments often echoing the president's own critiques of the russia investigation. listen to here. >> the mueller report and the conclusions weren't from robert mueller. they were written by what a lot of people believe was hillary clinton's de facto legal team. people that supported her and even represented some of her aides. >> reporter: as you know, bob mueller pushed back against that and said politics played no role in his choice of the many deputies and lawyers on the investigative team that he chose for competence. and another point, the dni was crea

do we want to do more with the cia and nsa, what happens when they start complaining to the office and the oval office? you've got to talk to the american people both about what they should expect and how we should expect the government to cooperate with silicon valley to stop this. this a really a tough job. >> on the same day robert mueller issued that warning the gop blocked a vote on a measure that would have required by law campaigns to inform the fbi of offers of foreign help. of course as you know the president has said publicly he might accept foreign help. i wonder, you've covered russia for some time, does russia look at that as an invitation to interfere in this next election? to offer help to candidates that it wants to help? >> well, they have to. if you look at this from an intelligence perspective this is what we call classically covert action. that's what the head of russia said in helsinki and the implications for them are the president of the united states says this isn't really a big deal at least initially saying this didn't happen. so if you're in russia and an int

his phone call with the russian ambassador was a highly classified nsa intercept. someone in the obama administration leaked that call to to the washington post. that's a felony. glenn simpson, from fusion gps, in talking about the steeles dossier said he and bruce other did not meet until after the election. bruce other said under oath they met three months before the election. one of them is not telling the truth. eric: now breaking news, we have it from the president himself in his twitter, let me read it, quote: i am pleased to announce that highly respected congressman john ratcliffe will be nominated by me to be the director of national intelligence, a former u.s. attorney john will lead and inspire greatness for the country he loves. dan coats, the current director, will -- then we have to get to next tweet -- >> we to we have to wait -- [laughter] so your thoughts. >> well, so that confirms, obviously, what many of us have been reporting about this move. it also, i have to chuckle, i mean, it's -- i think the president doesn't like to be scooped necessarily

children we saw were filthy wearing the same wet and muddy came close in which they traveled ending the nsa it necessary detention of children. >>misty congresses, highest priority. >>president trump did extend an olive branch of sorts over the weekend tweeting that he is willing to meet with democrats to discuss what they have witnessed at the border. >>they're confirming today the latest round of ice raids led to just 35 arrests across the nation. some say that's a far cry from the quote show of force the president had been touting but ice officials say the roundups are ongoing the trump administration is now fast tracking deportations kron four's dan kerman reports from ice headquarters in san francisco. >>the trump administration is expanding the use of an existing law. >>to speed up the deportation of undocumented immigrants. it's called expedited removal. >>that only happened to people who were caught within 100 miles of it order and within 2 weeks of their entry to the united states. so now this is being expanded so that anyone who is caught anywhere in the united states who can't af

we need make sure countering human smuggling is a national intelligence authority so we have the nsa, fbi working on those ppt they're the ones facilitating the perilous journeys for young women, for kids and these families and we're not putting nearly enough attention on that in order to dismantle the infrastructure that is moving people here illegally. and we should be streamlining legal immigration. i had a proposal, the only bipartisan immigration proposal othroughout to streamline legal immigration so people that want to come -- the united states of america has benefitted of the brain drain from every other country. and lets dro's do it legally. sglrls let's talk about the president's attempt to go around the supreme court. where are you on the citizen sghe question? >> i think supreme court has ruled. we need make sure we accurately count everybody. it's important for cities and count canies. >> sounds like you're against the citizenship question because it will lead to a miscount. >> we don't want to be a miscount for sure. i'm concerned do they have the right capabilities to p

create a situation -- it's a management situation of letting the cia and the nsa, all of them, do their job and making sure that there aren't gaps. so, who better for that than a former u.s. attorney and someone who served on the intel committee doesn't pretend that he is going to be the chief spy? but rather, just like a u.s. attorney, figure out how to do case management? is he the right choice? is a very good choice. should they look at that rather than go back to, "well, we've got to have somebody disagrees with the president." i want someone that disagrees with this kind of group thought where there is either no problem or they all agree on a problem. we had this leading up to the iraq war, where they all agreed that saddam had nuclear weapons. unfortunately, he didn't. so i want somebody who's got a u.s. attorney background who never takes anything at face value and forces people to prove what they -- >> kennedy: it is an organizational position, but capri, it wouldn't matter that the president nominated elijah cummings to be dni. democrats would claim some partisan hackery and th