and they also need hunter biden's help, because the investments they make in this company, hunter biden on the board of directors of the financial firm. his business partner archer on the invest ga investment commity start buying asset in u.s. that are duel use technologies. >> civilian and military. >> correct. it has military implications they buy a precision tool company in michigan, that transaction is required approval by cfius. >> that is federal government committee foreign -- >> they scr t have to approve t. >> they are militarily sensitive it clear, if you have the son of the vice president involved with investment firm that is making this investment, even if it is chinese government that good cover. their is another investment in china general nuclear, which is a company based in hong kong. they become shareholders in this. son of the vice president onboard of director of this company, they buy part of cgn . within a year, our fbi is charging cgn with stealing nuclear secret in united states, these are transactions that are occurring, problem from stand point of hunter biden i

look at this money flowing right into hunter biden's coffers? somehow he scored an extremely lucrative deal in china. during his time when his father was a vice president. this was in 2013. hunter joined his father on air force 2, an official trip to asia stopping in china, ten days later hunter biden along with john kerry stepson over, and the murdering guy, the mobster "whitey" bulger's nephew. great team. they scored a 1 billion later $1.5 billion deal with a subsidiary of the bank of china. a guess why would you ever go to goldman sachs when you have "whitey" bulger and hunter biden who is not an expert in anything involving chinese banking? his firm was not renowned or even known for any international banking prowess yet somehow hunter biden scored an amazing billion $5 business opportunity from the chinese. no matter where you turn, when you take a closer look at former vice president joe biden, all roads lead to corruption. look at our own gregg jarrett. he has identified that biden may be guilty of bribery, services fraud, wire fraud. bi

hunter biden is doing we don't know what. but the evidence becomes clear, because ten days after the return to washington, his small boutique investment firm gets a one billion dollars deal. that's $1 billion with a b. it later expanded. that deal is with the chinese government. goldman sachs, bake of america. >> peter: can you confirm that he had no prior experience with ukraine, oil, gas, or energy? did he have any experience with china? i would think that goldman sachs or one of the big banks would probably be a better candidate. [laughs] >> yeah, i think they would, sean. no background in china. very limited. it was a hedge fund he was involved in with his uncle, james biden. that ended up with massive lawsuits with allegations of fraud. any experience he has is certainly not the type of the chinese are interested in. the bottom line here is that we have paper trails. this is not like the russian dossier, where somebody sort of sad this is what happens. we have the financial records that hunter biden got from ukraine. joh

specifically what hunter biden's legal team was asking the prosecutors to doto end that ca. there was an investigation. the media is wrong because they haven't picked up their notebooks and actually done the gumshoe work that it requires to find out what happened here. we are going to see documents from the state department, documents from hunter biden's legal team, text messages from hunter biden's own business partner devon archer who joined him on the board. official documents of the ukraine government that they've given to me on the record, all of thesee documents tell a very different story than joe biden's narrative to the american voters. >> sean: spectac -- first of all, this will be the top of the night.morrow stay right there, john. gregg, i want you to absorb all that and let's look into the legal aspects of what we know today. go in any order you want. we have joe biden on tape. you're not going to get the billion dollars. you don't fire the prosecutor no billion dollars.up are you'v. son of a b, they fired him. >> it's amazing how either clueless or arrogant joe

did anything wrong oros that hunter biden did anything wrong. it doesn't look great? it doesn't look great, but there's no evidence therethese h occurring. >> this could end up being like the 2020 versionof birtherism. oh, joe biden did something wrong in ukraine. >> sean: actually, the proof is in biden's own words that he can't find any evidence that he knew anything about oil, gaseney did they pay him millions of dollars. i guess they didn't see the tape of biden bragging about getting the ukrainian prosecutor fired by leveraging our tax dollars. and, by the way, where i grew up that kind of sounds like either you do what i say, it kind of sounds like a blackmail sort of thing, but that's where i grew up. i won't to use that phrase. maybe they just don't care because it doesn't fit their psychotic,rt rage, trump-hating narrative. peter asked biden. he had an opportunity to ask him a question about this conflict in the ukraine. there was one angry uncle joe 30330. he was not happy about peter's question.takes much take a look. >> mr. vice pres

is everybody knows to start an indictment of hunter biden, joe biden's comments during the campaign seem so strange, we are not competing with china, they are not very impressive as a country and some strange things happened in 2012-2013, the same time hunter biden is doing this transaction. the united states navy is told to stop patrols in disputed territory in the south china sea and pentagon official later testified there was almost a 4 year pause. it was senator john mccain made this public. the second thing that happened is a lot of pressure from the senate to select 16 jet fighters to taiwan which donald trump is now approved. that was all stopped under president obama and vice president biden. it is kind of strange, these transactions take place and you can see a softer policy toward china. is there a conversation or transcript or some hard evidence, i very much doubt it at this point but the media would have to look into it to find out. >> some optics and questions that need to be explained. we watch and see as the vice president says there is no there there. any additional diggi

the son of his presidential rival, joe biden. hunter biden was a paid executive. asking a foreign government to address possible corruption before being the beneficiary of u.s. aid isn't itself illicit, but it becomes problematic and becomes potentially criminal. critics say leveraging the presidency could rise to the level of extortion and conspiracy. trump raises similar questions of propriety about vice president biden to hear rudy giuliani tell it, when in march of 2016 the then-vice president threatened ukraine with the loss of $1 billion in loan guarantees, unless it fired a prosecutor. then looking at a company where hunter biden had ties, it was joe biden who was leveraging his office. ironically it would be the trump administration that held up financial support for ukraine, due to concerns about corruption. trump and giuliani make their claims despite reports that say the investigation of hunter biden had already been shelved by the time vice president biden threatened the loss of loan guarantees. "the new york times" notes that quote hunter biden sat on

the same time that hunter biden is doing this transaction. the united states navy is told to stop patrols in disputed territory in the south china se china sea. pentagon official later on testified there was was a mosta four year pause. it was actually senator john mccain who made this public. the second thing that happened is there's a lot of pressure from the senate to sell f-16 jet fighters to taiwan, which president trump is now approved. that was all stopped under both president obama and vice president biden. so it's kind of strange, these transactions take place, and then you can see a softer policy towards china. is there a conversation or a transcript or some hard evidence that there is a quid pro quo? i very much doubt it at this point, but you would have to look into it to find out. >> shannon: at this point some objects, some questions that may be fine but they need to be explained, so we will watch and see as the vice president says there is no "there" there. we will see if there is any additional digging and peter schweizer star

joe biden's son, hunter biden. hunter biden sat on the board of a ukraine january gas company while his father was vice president. garrett tenney has a look at what we know about the younger biden. >> reporter: this controversy surrounding hunter biden's work for one of the biggest gas companies in ukraine isn't new. in early 2014 vice president joe biden became the obama administration's point man for rooting out corruption in ukraine's new pro-western government. in may of that year, hunter biden joined the board of the group which the associated press and others described as politically awkward timing for the administration. adding to that, at the time the owner was under investigation for alleged abuses of power. almost two years later, ukraine's parliament ousted the country's top prosecutor at the urging of vice president biden and other european officials who had long argued the prosecutor himself was corrupt. but today on "sunday morning futures" president trump's personal attorney said the real reason the

did joe biden's push to remove the prosecutor help hunter biden's employer? allies were relieved by the dismissal of the prosecutor. at the prosecutor was ouster mr. biden had sought according to people familiar with the situation. he was not aggressively pursuing investigations into him or buries one, but the oligarch's allies say he was using the threat to try to solicit bribes from his team and that left the oligarch steam weary of dealing with the prosecutor. want to take some time and read from "the new york times," fact-checking on all of this. let's bring in our panel. chris stirewalt, politics editor at fox news. susan page, washington bureau chief at usa today, and katie pavlich, news editor at townhall.com. they're kind of two pieces to this, the president pushing back hard today, susan, on this phone call. >> that's right. there is a move now, the president suggested maybe he will release the transcript of the phone call. i think there's some good reasons why he shouldn't do that. >> bret: being that foreign leaders -- >> foreign leaders expect to

a few days later, hunter biden's american lawyers representing hunter biden's company r burisma sent a follow-up email trying to make good on their promise to bring these new prosecutors to washington to explain the dirty tricks campaign that had beenruo clear the air. if joe biden forced the firing of this prosecutor on the grounds that he was corrupt and hunter biden's lawyers go and say that was false information, somebody's not telling the truth. we need to get to the bottom of that. >> sean: this is important here because what you are outlining here are facts, you have documents to back this up. >> i've posted the documents. people can read the documents.s. >> sean: burisma american legal reps met with ukrainians officials days after biden forced the firing of the chief prosecutor.you did viewed the cf prosecutor. the chief prosecutor told you, told abc and "the washington post." it's obvious. in six hours, fire the guy or i'm taking a billion dollars home.son of a b, they fired him. why would a vice president of the united states of america want to prosecutor in ukraine fired?

do you see why i'm skeptical that the hunter biden stuff is really that serious? if they were serious about it, you go to the fbi, you don't go to an oligarch in ukraine. >> well, number one, chuck, you don't know that the fbi hasn't been contacted. >> and if there were an investigation, senator, don't you think that our friends in the white house would let you know publicly that there was sort of inquiry going on? >> you don't know whether the fbi has been contacted or not or if the fbi follows protocol, they wouldn't tell us, point one. point two, and i hope you'll let me finish, what we do know is this. a russian oligarch hired hunter biden, paid him $50,000 a month, gave a bucket load of money to his law firm. it may turn out that the -- i said russia, i meant ukrainian oligarch. it may turn out that the ukrainian oligarch got mr. biden's name off zip recruiter. but i doubt it. if you go to mr. biden's wikipedia page, there are other similar allegations. i'm not making an allegation of impropriety. but i am saying that's going to be investigated. if not at the

ukrainian prosecutors kept a few days later, hunter biden's american lawyers representing hunter biden's company burisma sent a follow-up email trying to make good on their promise to bring these new prosecutors to washington to explain the dirty tricks campaign that had been run and to clear the air. if joe biden forced the firing of this prosecutor on the grounds that he was corrupt and hunter biden's lawyers say that was false information, somebody's not telling the truth -- we need to get to the bottom of that. >> sean: this is important here because what you are outlining here are facts, you have documents to back this up. >> i've posted the documents, people can read the documents. >> sean: american legal reps met with ukrainians officials days after biden forced the firing of the chief prosecutor. the prosecutor told you, told abc and "the washington post" -- it's obvious. in six hours, fire the guy or i'm taking a billion dollars home. they fired him, why would a vice president of the united states of america want to prosecutor in ukraine fired? >> it's an internal matter. corrup

. >> if i change the names of joe biden and hunter biden to donald trump and donald trump, jr., 8 approximately from ukraine, 1.5 billion from china while negotiating from china, would i be sitting here? >> the 1.5 billion is simply not true. griff: president trump says he deserves to meet accuser tweeting in addition i want to only meet my accuser who sent information but legally gave information which is largely incorrect to whistleblower, as or impeachment fever, the inquiry has not slowed down, adam schiff to finish negotiations are on their way now for whistleblower to testify, a lot happening on monday morning. heather: except once again what was that you said, lisa? >> yeah. heather: thank you so much, griff, democrats hang on whistleblower they refuse to name, steven miller says that president trump is the only one exposing government corruption. >> i think it's unfortunate that the media continues to describe this individual as a whistleblower and this person does not deserve hit job, does not make you whistleblower because grow to whistleblower protection act. the president pointed ou

i'm asking where the world is hunter biden? why aren't journalist desperately trying to find him, interview him, staking out his location, where he lives? have they hung up their pens and pads? are they out of the news business altogether? not one media member finds it odd that hunter biden joined a ukrainian energy company, burisma, despite having zero oil and gas expertise? >> there is no evidence of anything having to do with joe biden or his son. the president is speaking as if there is. the president is hoping that you will get distracted by that. >> laura: none of them wonder why he got paid an astronomical $600,000 a year or fee to consult? >> their strategy is now to try to put the onus on joe biden to infect distract and attack. >> laura: truly red flags would go up when joe biden. about getting the prosecutor investigating his son's company fired, right? >> joe biden's issue has been looked at for a long time. there's been findings that there is no improper involvement. this is a distraction. >> laura: [laughs] nothin

the whole case against hunter biden have been settled. hunter biden had been cleared. to this day there is no evidence of any wrongdoing by hunter biden or joe biden. what you said is true, that joe biden, in cooperation with all of our allies, say that there's a corruption problem in ukraine. this guys at the center, and we need them out before we put additional -- >> the point i'm making, we should be misleading the american people that the president was the one who brought up biden first, and brought up giuliani first. that was brought up by zelensky and referencing the corruption and the draining of the swamp in the ukraine. >> no, he brought it because president -- this is incredible, by the way, to me, jason -- he was empowering giuliani to go over there, and suggesting to zelensky, "contact my attorney general." as president of the united states, he is the chief law enforcement officer. unless you want to say it's the attorney general. if he believed something wrong happened involving an american citizen, joe biden, hunter biden, he should say, "you investigate.

then i said i did say you should investigate joe biden and hunter biden. i corrected it immediately. i corrected it before he corrected it. the reality is the distinction is this, what they are trying to say as i went there for a political mission to kind of get joe biden in trouble. it ridiculous. i went there as a lawyer defending his client. i've known about this for five months. i've been trying to get people to cover this for five months sentiment will be very hard to get this out. one problem with this, it ukrainian collusion, which was large, significant, and proven. with hillary clinton, with the democratic national committee, with the ambassador. with an fbi agent who's now been hired by george soros, who was funding a lot of it. when biden got the prosecutor fired, the new prosecutor, who biden approved -- you don't get to approval prosecutor in a foreign country and left fishy is going on. new prosecutor dropped the case not just on biden 'skid and a crooked company that biden 'skid work for, that was done as a matter of record in october of 201

and there were no charges filed against hunter biden. if mr. giuliani or anybody else has proof of pay offs or wrongful conduct by either biden, we welcome it. that goes for giuliani's other point as well. here's that one. >> these are crimes of major proportions. and because they're democrats you won't cover it. $1.5 million investment by china in biden's private equity fund. >> again, just because you yell, doesn't make it true. it's not new, it was covered and again the facts are not on giuliani's side. a president whose family does business in many other countries that matter to the united states and often have a direct role in those dealings should not be something that this president is getting upset about because that's exactly what happens in his own family. however, hunter did fly with his father to china in 2013 reportedly on air force 2 and days later he and a business partner had a deal with the bank of china for a new massive investment in their fund. a lawyer for hunter biden told "the times" he did want have any equity in the fun

and hunter biden have to ukrainian natural gas? >> it's soliciting foreign help in your campaign for reelection for president of the united states and it's something that i think people would generally find alarming. >> ukraine helped hillary clinton, so -- >> we have to separate a whole bunch of things here. the idea -- people who are -- you know, president trump had some weird messaging on this, on the one hand it's all made up and fake news, on the other hand he said he was spied on which suggest that in fact, allegations are true. rudy giuliani comes on air today and takes great that he's a political man, 7 minutes of the biggest political hitman i have ever seen. i think there's a lot of smoke and bluster on what giuliani is doing, it could all be true. if the president of the united states tried to bend national security based upon his own partisan self-interest that would be very, very bad and the people who say he's interested in corruption, that seems to be the only corruption case in the world than the guy beating him by

adam, make the turn from hunter/gatherer and tell us about hunter biden. what was he doing in ukraine? was it on the up and up in your view, and how much did joe biden know? >> so one of biden's -- one of hunter biden's business partners had met an oligarch who was running burisma, the ukrainian gas company, and he offered his -- hunter's associate a position on his board. and as part of that, eventually that same executive offered to bring hunter on the board. the rule that hunter had was that he didn't tell his father about his clients. he didn't tell his father about these things, and his father didn't ask. it was sort of a don't ask/don't tell policy. so hunter took the job, which was quite lucrative, and he didn't tell his father, and he didn't consult. and then the news broke in the newspaper, in "the wall street journal" in 2014, but it's unclear whether joe biden even saw the reports at the time. and it wasn't until much later that one of his state department advisers briefed him on hunter's role with the company. >> and what did the people around

the issue of hunter with joe biden. this is at a period of time where joe biden's other son, beau, who is like a lifeline for hunter, is entering the final year of his life. so the family issues were extremely sensitive. all of biden's aides knew that, and they were really, really reluctant to talk about hunter's business activities and the potentially problems it created. there was a slight change that came just before joe biden went back to ukraine in december 2015 -- so this is a good year and a half after hunter joins the board. one of the biden's advisers, he raises it with joe biden. he doesn't say you should tell your son to get off the board. he just wants him to be aware it probably will be raised by the media at least during the trips. after that hunter gets a phone call from his father saying i hope you know what you're doing, and he says i do. that's it. >>> so let me end on this. one of the last parts of your piece -- yet to many voters the controversy over hunter biden's dealings will appear to have been a

where isis hunter biden? "the ingraham angle" investigates next. >> laura: joe biden's son hunter is smack dab in the middle of this whole ukraine controversy. i'm asking where the world is hunter biden? why aren't journalists desperately trying to find him interview him, staking outrn his location, where he lives? have they hung up their pens and pads? are they out of the news business altogether? not one media member finds it odd that hunter biden joined a ukrainian energy company, burisma, despite having zero oil and gas expertise? in>> there is no evidence of anything having to do with joe biden or his son. the president is speaking as if there is. the president is hoping that you will get distracted by that. >> laura: none of them wonder why he got paid an astronomical $600,000 a year fee to consult? >> their strategy is now to try to put the onus on joe biden to in fact distract and attack. >> laura: surely red flags would go up when joe biden bragged about getting the prosecutor investigating his son's

i don't know. >> it is referring to hunter biden. alexandria ocasio cortez says it is more important to impeach the president than to listen to voters. a new quinnipiac poll shows 57% of voters believe donald trump should not be impeached. >> that is not reflective of a shift that has united almost the entire democratic caucus. we need to put country first before considerations of reelection. >> most polls were released before the transcript of the iranian call was released. time for the good, the bad and the ugly. the dog named queen get the f her own. and the kansas animal shelter when a volunteer moved into the shelter to be closer to the dogs because she seems depressed. i a high-speed chase with his electric tesla running out of power. >> the number one spot. heather: they forgot to charge the tesla. a sports car slammed into a school bus with 60 kids on board, look at this convertible under the bus in south carolina. no one was seriously injured. "fox and friends first" continues now. kim jong un fox news alert breaking overnig

which is what was going on with hunter biden, what was going on with joe biden. what was going on with hillary clinton. don't forget china. china is also very important and you brought that up as well. hunter biden and joe biden have a lot to answer for. >> sean: kimberly, your take on this. >> yeah, i mean i think one thing that's been really important has been the reporting that you featured earlier by john solomon and i recommend that everyone go and read that. he talked to the prosecutors in this case and he also laid out a very credible argument that claimed it would be very hard the joe biden didn't know this was going on. that's been an essential part of the story. we have the basis of some of this reporting. now it's time to dig in. >> sean: let me ask you both. sara, i will throw it to you first. i'm a little concerned the intel community is again weaponized the tools and intelligence against political opponents and are now turning those weapons on us. those weapons we entrusted them are supposed to be to protect us from enemies foreign and domestic. not

and hunter biden. when it is appropriate? >> you characterize it. john: that is the way it appears. >> no, it does not. that is how pro-biden media lines it up. someone said, this i this is in. -- between you and your client. because biden had the guy fired. his statement on record, laze press could go read it. there are 3 videotapes on record. available on here nobody has covered for 5 months, this town protects joe biden. family has been taking money from his public was on the for years, 1.5 billion from china, our vice president, is supposed to be impartially, and independently negotiating for us. and the kid he takes him on air force 2 to china. john: in 2013. >> the kid unfortunately is a drug addict, china did not give 1.5 billion to his kid biden's kid, a recovering drug addict, carries stepson -- kerry's stepson and "whitey" bulger's nephew, look it up. john: this is a company called rosemont -- let me come back. >> for a second, white "whitey" bulger's nephew, from china that does not shock yo

. >> why aren't we investigating joe biden and hunter biden. if his name was hunter smith, no one would have hired him. he wanted have found a billion dollars in china.an oh lig, a ie wouldn't be hiring -- oligarc inucane wouldn't be hiring him. why do you have a vice president who was running for president and who has never won in the democratic polls.why are they ng a. have who says you have to fire season orir' not getting the money. why is no one up in arms about that and why is that not being investigated? >> sean: well said. no background in oil, energy, or gas.atno background in private s wit. pretty good gig. obviously, he's pretty well connected. amazing thing happens. he has no background at all in private equity. the chinese government company they give him a billion-dollar deal.whitey bulger is involved. his son is involved in that. there is a great indicator that maybe things aren't great. no background. i would think goldman sachs or any of the big banks might be considering they had no experience. >> kevin: but they weren't walki

howie: so the president and rudy giuliani are saying, the real scandal is joe biden, hunter biden, what they did in ukraine and biden's son with no experience in the area while father was vp, smells bad, of course. no investigation has found hunter biden guilty of specific wrongdoing, isn't this a classic case by your side of political deflection? >> no, no, this has been going on, the biden inquiry, we have demanding investigations for a long time. citizens united has lawsuits over this material because we can't get it out of the federal government, they would not give it pup r. howie: the media have covered the biden story -- >> they've lost their collective minds, they want to defeat this president next november using impeachment, al green, the congressman from texas said it in his own words that we must impeach him in order to not have him get reelected, this is all political, it's all politics, that's what this is about. howie: you think the media are positive toward impeachment? nancy pelosi has been holding the line, now that she's before it, 225 democrats, majority of the house

in may of that year, hunter biden jointed the board of the barisma group, the associated press and others describe as politically awkward time forking the administration, 2 years later they ousted the top prosecutor at to the best of your knowledging of vice president biden and other european officials who had long argued the prosecutor himself was corrupt, but today on sunday morning futures president trump 's personal attorney the real reason victor was fired was to shut down investigation into barisma where hunter biden worked. >> this is an affidavit from the main person involved with this, they say he was corrupt, he was fired for corruption, the president asked me to consider the possibility of winding down the investigative actions in respect to this company, biden's son company, i refuse today call the investigation. >> that contradict uric -- ukrainian investigation and earlier this year the prosecutor general said hunter biden did not violate any ukrainian laws, but the former vice president is now facing questions of why he didn't do more to prevent even the perception of a con

son hunter biden. a ukrainian official said he had no wrongdoing by biden or his son. expands to a war to ukrainian law enforcement. it would appear this is a case that has been litigated and adjudicated and he's actually reaching into the ukrainian government and asking them to reopen anvection or prosecution. is that what that paragraph means? >> yeah. i think it's not entirely clear if he wants them just to reopen the previous investigation which was into this gas company where joe biden's son hunter worked or if he wants an entirely new investigation into the former vice president himself. but he certainly wants this area to be explored. and i think as you mentioned one of the really unusual aspects about this is the fact that his personal lawyer is playing such a major role meeting with two separate ukrainian officials and that the other part of that that was really surprising to me was that his meeting giuliani's meeting in august with the top aid to zalensky he said was set up by the state depar

and the hunter biden, which is two. and the entire situation together and you put in my colleague's reference to rudy giuliani raised by the way by the president of ukraine, he first raised it. i think it may equal 20 seconds, 30 seconds. and a conversation that was a -- >> sean: 33 minutes. >> i'm sure -- the translation is a third or less than that. but it's probably, at least you know, 15, 20 minutes. but that's going to be the articles of impeachment? go ahead, start the process. vote. because this is bordering -- not only on the absurd, but i think there is a dereliction of constitutional duties if you ignore the constitution itself. there's no high crime. no misdemeanor. no violation of the law, rule, or regulation. it's already been -- the justice department, when they looked at it, said there was no violation here. so i think this is just a political theater, that's what it is. >> sean: thank you. and breaking today and what is just the latest example of the less real psychotic. i mean, this is now a derangement

situation and hunter biden? okay? >> juan: oh my gosh. >> jesse: you brought up the fact that hunter had a crack pipe found on him the other day. leave that out of that for argument sake. when donald trump became president, his sons stopped doing international business. when joe biden became vice president, his family started doing international business. >> katie: exactly. >> jesse: when he goes over there, joe biden and he starts pushing new natural gas deals in ukraine, like a month later his son gets this katyushay gi cushy gigginge millions of dollars and joe biden uses taxpayer money to threaten them to fire the prosecutor. or when he flies them over on air force 2 to beijing and brings home 1.5 billion with a b from the chinese state national bank and no one asks any questions? all the president is doing is saying hey, maybe there is some corruption out there. we need to look into if we are going to give you guys an additional $400 million to defend yourselves against the russians, which by the way, obama and b

for some reason, hunter biden hunter biden all of a sudden develops expertise in the gas industry in ukraine, after bidee vice president, and also, the entirety of the circumstances which goes further, obviously, funding his salary and et cete et cetera, democrats call for this to be looked into, as well. you can't just isolate bit as much what about is on. >> sean: how many agree with ofu agree with me, this was clear? they were paying the kid to get influence on the president and many would? doug, you don't agree? >> if we are going to look at the president -- >> sean: you think you're going to get a multimillion dollar consulting contract in oil and gas if you don't have any experience in the country? you think you're going to get a billion in private -- i mean, i know we have great companies like goldman sachs. why would we go to goldman sachs when we can go to "whitey" bulger's nephew? >> to me, we do a fair-minded investigation. we let the facts fall where they may. we will reach, i think, reasonable conclusions. >> sean: we are done with the lawyers for a second. get to the im

attempts to investigate hunter biden. we reached out to senator murphy's office for comment, they referred us back to his tweets, which were muddy at best. tucker. >> tucker: amazing story. a thank you. we promised clarity and you delivered, trace gallagher, thanks you so much. peter vanburen is exactly the person we want to talk to tonight. contributed editor at the american conservative. he's also himself a formal whistle-blower who worked for the state department in iraq in 2009 and blew the whistle on waste fraud and abuse in that country and was really hassled for it, he wrote a book on the subject. it's great to see you tonight, great to have you on the show. the reason i want to talk to you so much is because you are illegitimate whistle-blower. i think people on both sides of the aisle would acknowledge that and i think your whistle-blowing was important. so you are -- you have this perspective on it, we are talking about whistle-blowing today. what do you make of this so-called whistle-blower, the cia officer? >>

and joe biden's son, hunter biden. i think we are a long way. i thought the transcript was going to clear everything up. i don't for get well. i think you have to see the whistle-blower complaint and you may have to hear from the whistle-blower. you will have to hear from the acting director of national intelligence tomorrow and an open hearing and it becomes clearer over and over that conversation, the president asked the ukrainian president hey, talk to my lawyer, rudy giuliani, cooperate with him in this investigation. i don't there's any question rudy giuliani is going to have to come before one if not more congressional committees and is going to have to be questioned about what exactly did you do. in a sense, he was the agent of the president in terms of seeking information. some would say dirt on joe biden's son, hunter. >> shepard: and that would be under oath? >> chris: yeah. >> shepard: i meant to ask judge napolitano but we ran out of time. varying opinions here and elsewhere on weather or the attorney gener

which is what was going on with hunter biden, what was going on with joe biden. what was going on with hillary clinton. and don't forget china. china is also very important and you brought that up as well. hunter biden and joe biden have a lot to answer for. >> sean: kimberly, your take on this. >> yeah, i mean i think one thing that's been really important has been the reporting that you featured earlier by john solomon, and i recommend that everyone go and read that. he talked to the prosecutors in this case, and he also laid out a very credible argument that claimed it would be very hard that joe biden didn't know this was going on. that's been an essential part of the story. we have the basis of some of this reporting. now, it's time to dig in. >> sean: let me ask you both. sara, i will throw it to you first. i'm a little concerned the intel community has again weaponized the tools of intelligence against political opponents and are now turning those weapons on us. when those weapons we entrusted them that are supposed to be to protect us from enemies foreign

and his son, hunter biden. the complaint also revealed details about how the white house attempted to "lock down" all records of trump's phone conversation soon after it happened by moving a transcript of the call to a standalone computer system reserved for code word-level intelligence information. on thursday, house speaker nancy pelosi accused the trump administration of a cover-up. >> there are actions of a cover-up. when you have a system up electronic storage for information that is specifically for national security y purposes that ishave something self-servingngo the p president politically and decide it t migt not be -- you might not want people to know and you hide it someplace else, that is a cover-up. amy: on capitol hill, members of the house intelligence committee grilled acting director of national intelligence joseph maguire thursday over why he failed to quickly turn over the whistleblower's complaint to congress after the inspector general of the intelligence community found it to be credible

biden doing for this petroleum company, if you remember for a moment, hunter biden doesn't have a background in petroleum, he doesn't have a background in ukraine and doesn't have much of a background in the energy industry, hunter biden was there for all intents and purposes, it seems from what we can tell right now because his father was vice president and let's not forget between 2008 and 2016 ukraine was constantly in the news and the obama administration was doing a lot of work there on the ground. so this is a sticky situation and it's one where biden is going to have to answer continually. eric:ly get to family issues in a second, if the former vice president is continually asked about this over the next few weeks, what does that do to his former lead in iowa? >> right, we just saw some polling showing that elizabeth warren has actually surpassed joe biden in iowa right now but to your point when joe biden is answering questions about ukraine, when he's answering questions about his own son he's not able to push forward with the message of american renewal that he has started his camp

giuliani was pushing for ukraine to look into biden's son, hunter, too, as he said last night in a denial turned admission that was like something out of "a few good men." >> did you ask the ukraine to vet joe biden? >> no. actually, i didn't. i asked the ukraine to investigate the allegations that there was interference in the election of 2016 by the ukrainians for the benefit of hillary clinton for which there there are -- >> you never asked anything about hunter biden, you never asked anything about joe biden -- >> the only thing i asked about joe biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that the man appointed dismissed the case against -- >> so did you ask ukraine to look into joe biden? >> of course i did. >> you just said you didn't. you have to see past the passion and see the purpose. giuliani came with a plan to provide cover for the president, which we will deconstruct for you tonight in detail. and how do we see the proof of it? well, just today. the president followed his lead. he did not deny that he, too, personally asked the foreign government to probe his political oppo

>> so, one of biden's -- one of hunter biden's business partners had met an oligarch who was running the ukrainian gas company, and he offered his -- hunter's -- associate position on his board. and as part of that, eventually that same executive offered to bring hunter on the board. the rule that hunter had was that he didn't tell his father about his clients, he didn't tell his father about these things, and his father didn't ask. it was a don't ask don't tell policy. so hunter took the job, which was quite lucrative and he didn't tell his father and he didn't consult. and the news broke in the newspaper in the "wall street journal" in 2014. but it's unclear whether joe biden even saw the reports at the time. and it wasn't until much later that one of his state department advisers briefed him on hunter's role with the company. >> and what did the people around -- was anyone saying, look, mr. vice president, this is a bad look, not withstanding any agreement you have with your son, don't ask/don't tell? >> no, they didn't feel comfortable saying that to joe biden. they knew that joe

and his son, hunter biden. the complaint also revealed details about how the white house attempted to "lock down" all records of trump's phone conversation soon after it happened by moving a transcript of the call to a standalone computer system reserved for code word-level intelligence information. on thursday, house speaker nancy pelosi accused the trump administration of a cover-up. >> there are actions of a cover-up. when you have a system up electronic storage for information that is specifically for national securitity purposes that ishave something self-servivi to the president politically and decide i it migt not be -- you might not want people to know and you hide it someplace else, that is a cover-up. amy: on capitol hill, members of the house intelligence committee grilled acting director of national intelligence joseph maguire thursday over why he failed to quickly turn over the whistleblower's complaint to congress after the inspector general of the intelligence community found it to be credible an

trump allies about hunter biden are not true and they get the timeline of joe biden asking for the ukrainian prosecutor to be fired wrong sometimes. but hunter biden was a consultant making money overseas as many people with famous last names do. i would note as they make these attacks as rudy giuliani does, makes a lot of money and is consulting for a security firm overseas. that part is fair game. how does joe biden navigate this? >> this has been a debate inside the biden campaign as we reported in the cover that you showed, and there's different camps. there's some camp of biden advisers who are hopeful that this actually sort of causes democrats to rally around him, something we know about joe biden is he is very well loved by the democratic party, still viewed with a lot of affection. so do democrats look at this and say this is our beloved uncle joe, we can't let this happen to him, but it's certainly also possible that the opposite happens, that this sort of cloud of dirt starts to surround his candidacy in the same way that the email situation became something that hillary clinton c

. >> but president trump also asked zelensky to look into joe biden and his son hunter saying "biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution, so if you could look into it, it sounds pretty horrible to me." the department of justice today weighed in on the call saying it investigated the conversation for weeks as a possible illegal foreign campaign contribution but found no evidence to support that. the doj also pointed to an arguable political bias on the part of the whistle-blower in favor of a rival political candidate to president trump. the president today highly critical of nancy pelosi for using the call as the basis for an official impeachment inquiry. >> she's lost her way, she's been taken over by the radical left. as far as i'm concerned -- unfortunately, she's no longer the speaker of of the house. >> in launching its impeachment inquiry, democrats pointed to a quid pro quo the president promised zelensky. a quid pro quo that did not appear in the transcript. president trump today said that secretary of state pompeo got permission from his ukrainian counterpar

if you go after the bidens or that company that hunter biden was affiliated with, you'll get the military aid that we're holding up. on the call, there wasn't a quid pro quo, is that correct? >> that's right, and that is a major piece of this because "the washington post" reported earlier this week in a really great story that this whole whistle-blower complaint that we've been talking about centers on a promise that the president made to a foreign leader. and at least as far as this call with the ukrainian president goes, we're not aware of any specific promise that he made on that call. we don't believe that he mentioned the foreign aid that his administration in august was reviewing whether to send to ukraine, and we don't believe he necessarily dangled any other quid pro quos to the ukrainian president. >> and also what we know is that rudy giuliani has admitted that he met with top ukrainian officials back in june and august about the prospect of an investigation. >> right. and giuliani was pretty public about the fact that in may he was planning a trip to ukraine to meet with the pr

we know there is no equivalence between hunter biden and joe biden and what this president is -- has potentially done. the things that were investigated against the bidens showed it was totally debunked and we know that actually the incident they were talking about it's not just biden calling for the prosecutor to be -- to step down, ifs the imf, the eu, so it wasn't one guy acting on his own. as the congressman said, there is a lot we still don't know. we know the president of the united states of america got on the phone and asked a foreign leader to investigate a private american citizen for his own political gain. we also know from the mueller report this president has a pattern of as mueller said, ten incidents of obstructing justice in plain sight and this is another example of in plain site and we also happen to know that if the president does it or i do it it's not illegal. now we've -- >> how do we know that if we don't have the transcript. >> the president said that many times. if i do it, it is not illegal. he's actually said -- anything -- he referred to him -- >> but we

. >> have you got any evidence that joe biden acted in any way which supported hunter biden's company? >> it is not my jurisdiction. >> but have you got any? >> it is not my jurisdiction. i can't do nothing which is connected with ukraine and law -- >> under ukrainian law you have got nothing. >> nothing. >> that was sergei, one of the advisors to the current president, we also spoke off camera to the prosecutor who says there was no evidence there. >> margaret, this exceedingly embarrassing, mr. -- has been fired by the current president. mr. lusenko is exactly the prutorhat bid in in order to containing the case. and it is suspected. >> brennan: you met with him repeatedly, he said about this. >> he is not the current prosecutor general. >> brennan: i know i said the prosecutor general -- the prosecutor general we spoke with off camera as well, and he had -- to the "washington post" and other organizations said -- he didn't have evidence -- about anything. >> maybe you are so blinded because it is a democrat you not doing your job, your job properly the one you should have spoken to

and hunter biden have said, for example. joe biden said he didn't even know hunter biden was on the board of this company until news reports came out after he had visited ukraine. well, hunter biden told the new yorker a few months ago that he told his dad about being in the company and his dad said i hope you know what you're doing. in other words, you're getting involved with ukrainian oligarchs. i hope you know what you are doing. i have to wonder why is joe biden going to ukraine and asking them to do something in return for this -- these 1 billion dollars loan guarantees. why wouldn't secretary of state john kerry done that? so there's a lot of questions still here, jon, and whether we'll get answers, though, is another thing. jon: a democrat on the house intelligence committee was on america's newsroom earlier today and said we still need some answers here. listen. >> i would like to know what the nature of that conversation was, if in fact the president offered support for the ukrainian exchange for the ukraine gettin