the jerry sandusky case at penn state. brock turner sexual assault case at stanford a few years back, these are failed communications. and the one that really, the book starts and ends with, the signature case i'm concerned with is the sandra bland case which is one of those high profile encounters between african-americans and law enforcement that was, excuse me, so much in the news a few years ago which was a conversation between a young black man, black woman and a police officer who pulls her over and the conversation goes off the rails. and i wondered why is it, why is it that we're, that we fail in these conversations with strangers. that's where the book comes from. host: each one of your books has explored an aspect of human communication. what is it about this topic that you keep coming back to? why is it so important to you? malcolm: i don't know. i just think it's endlessly, no one loves a transcript more than me. i am keenly interested in how people ex-tress themselves and how they succeed and fail at that. i'm

the jerry sandusky case at penn state. brock turner sexual assault case at stanford a few years back, these are failed communications. and the one that really, the book starts and ends with, the signature case i'm concerned with is the sandra brand case, which is one of those high profile encounters between african americans and law enforcement that was, excuse me, so much in the news a few years ago, which was a conversation between a young black man, black woman and a police officer who pulls her over, and the conversation goes off the rails. and i wondered why is it, why is it that we're, that we fail in these conversations with strangers? that's where the book comes from. host: each one of your books has explored an aspect of human communication. what is it about this topic that you keep coming back to? why is it so important to you? malcolm: i don't know. i just think it's endlessly, no one loves a transcript more than me. i am keenly interested in how people express themselves and how they succeed and fail at that. i

the jerry sandusky case at penn state. brock turner sexual assault case at stanford a few years back, these are failed communications. and the one that really, the book starts and ends with, the signature case i'm concerned with is the sandra brand case, which is one of those high profile encounters between african americans and law enforcement that was, excuse me, so much in the news a few years ago, which was a conversation between a young black man, black woman and a police officer who pulls her over, and the conversation goes off the rails. and i wondered why is it, why is it that we're, that we fail in these conversations with strangers? that's where the book comes from. susan: each one of your books has explored an aspect of human communication. what is it about this topic that you keep coming back to? why is it so important to you? malcolm: i don't know. i just think it is endlessly -- no one loves a transcript more than me. i am keenly interested in how people express themselves and how they succeed and fail at tha

from michigan state and penn state, the jerry sandusky dr. nassar. let's watch the video and we'll come back and talk about that. coming to me with a concern about, you know, i guess had s words, somebody alked to him about inappropriate behavior in the shower. -- nd you told him him that it didn't happen and there wasn't, in my it wasn't inappropriate behavior. host: the court said differently and he is now long prison sentence. what should we take away from this and also the michigan state situation? yeah, so i have a case.er on the sandusky what interested me with the sandusky ase is not himself, but rather what the prosecutors did after they sandusky. hey went after the leadership of penn state for failure to act earlier on to prevent sandusky's misbehavior, which i think is absurd. verse rough chapter and why the prosecution was asking eople in positions of leadership to do things they should not do, that is ssentially, the charge -- so the president of penn state was forced to resign and is still 10 later, almost 10 years later fighting a legal

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jerry sandusky was a football coach at penn state found to be a serial child molester and he was convicted and jailed but then prosecutors started going after people at the university and convicted the athletic director, vice president of finance and went after the president of the university greg spaniard saying they were implicated in this because they should have known that he was -- they should have acted on these minor suspicions. they should have known he was a child molester. i feel that that's absolutely the wrong -- that was a travesty of justice to go after the administration. you can't ask people -- we should be celebrating people in positions of authority for the fact they build trusting communities, and we should accept the fact that once in a generation one -- some university president or some other institution head is going to be misled, but that's the -- do you really want the opposite? do you really want to have running your universities or your schools or your, you know, companies people who are so paranoid that they would suspect the worst of their employees? no. >>> up