mr. meadows: mr. speaker, the gentleman on sit was just talking about the fact that one particular person might have to use a clicker. what about the millions of americans who go down to our border right now and they can't even go on u.s. territory because the cartel controls it? the gentleman knows all too well that the border on our southern border is controlled in areas by a cartel. but, you know, far about it from me to be the expert. we have the expert here on that particular subject, and i would yield two minutes to the ranking member from the homeland security committee, my good friend from alabama, mr. rogers. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from alabama is recognized. rogério de lima thank you, mr. speaker. -- mr. rogers: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman for yielding. last year nearly one million illegal immigrants attempted to cross our southwest border. one million is more than the population of delaware or south dakota or north dakota, alaska, vermont, or wyoming. one

jordan, and from mr. meadows a commitment to us that they would work with us to make sure that you are in this country for a long time. both of you and the people who are here. so let's just walk through what happened with us. you did everything you were asked of. you were asked by federal agency to come and be a part of this

meadows? >> mr. von spakovsky a new fire which he said he served as an attorney as at the doj is that correct? >> that's correct. >> given that history can you elaborate on the role of the doj lawsuit and particularly the one involving the constitutional interpretation? >> justice department is the lawyer for the executive branch including independent agencies and executive branch agency and agencies such as gsr. >> they put forth an opinion. >> they put forth all kinds of opinions they certainly have a long string of opinion the values clause but the point here is they don't take a position in litigation constitutional or can't or not constitutional that is binding on the executive branch i was a commissioner for ten two years and federal election commission and when we had a case for example for the front of the u.s. supreme court even as a commissioner i personally believed in my official capacity that a particular statute was unconstitutional, it was insulators solicitor general the justice depar

escaped because he wasn't in congress yet but mr. meadows and many jordan were in the book and went through some interview transcripts. that were not in the book, but in january 2018 i was with mr. jordan and he said, i think our base will keep us in power because if they they will impeach the president. the person that everyone here and he actually suggested in a meeting with both election season message for your party should be keep us in power or the impeached.ill get and mr. meadows, you told us in in mber of 2017, if we're the minority, we're toast. the president is going to be impeached. so, here we are. >> you're in the minority. >> in the minority. the president is being impeached. > so let's start, because obviously, we wrote this transcript, these questions last night and since last night, i mean, more stuff has come out. i'm curious if you could tell the president in what ou guys have seen so far, has the president done anything wrong? >> read the transcript. read the transcript. think it's clear, remember, here's the demo

mr. roy escapes, mr. meadows and jordan were in the book and i went through old interview transcripts and things that were not in the book. in january 2018i was in ohio with mr. jordan and he said, "i think our base will keep us in power, because if they do not they will impeach the president." and he actually suggested in a meeting that the election message for your party should be keep us in power or the president will get impeached. mr. meadows, you told us in november 2017, if we are in the minority we are toast, the president will be impeach. here we are. anna: you are in the minority. jake: and the president is being preached -- is being impeached. let us start, obviously wrote since lastight, and night more stuff has come out. i am curious if you could tell has thehe president -- president done anything wrong? >> read the transcript. clear, remember, here's the democrat's take, some bureaucrat who does not like the president. jake: we do not know. inspector general bias,f some poli

mr. roy escapes, mr. meadows and jordan were in the book and i went through old interview transcripts and things that were not in the book. in january 2018i was in ohio with mr. jordan and he said, "i think our base will keep us in power, because if they do not they will impeach the president." and he actually suggested in a meeting that the election message for your party should be keep us in power or the president will get impeached. mr. meadows, you told us in november 2017, if we are in the minority we are toast, the president will be impeach. here we are. anna: you are in the minority. jake: and the president is being preached -- is being impeached. let us start, obviously wrote since lastight, and night more stuff has come out. i am curious if you could tell has thehe president -- president done anything wrong? >> read the transcript. clear, remember, here's the democrat's take, some bureaucrat who does not like the president. jake: we do not know. inspector general bias,f some poli

roy. >> thank you, mr. meadows, and adding to this, mr. homan, you said that earlier, you think that i.c.e. is the proper place to deal with these questions. am i mistaken in my understanding that what we have got here is simply for better or worse for this hearing to decide and for the purposes of what mr. med dose and ms. alexandria ocasio cortez were talking about how this process should work. in other words, in this case, uscis is saying that we are not processing after august 7th, and we are not going handle these or make these deferred action decisions is after august 7th, so that is going to i.c.e., and i.c.e. will deal with the decisions they deal with respect to the expedited removal decisions or anything else, and then i.c.e. can choose to figure out how the handle these questions if i.c.e. is putting the policies in place to allow it to occur. is that mr. homan, your recommendation or thought? >> i.c.e., they make prosecutorial decisions everyday on do we arrest or not arrest, and do we detain or not, and put in the proceedings

mr. meadows and then mr. jordanson. >> ms. owen obviously this is a gang up on you. we are giving these witnesses the ability to do a rebuttal on you so you know i find it unfair candidly for you to show mutual respect and to go after ms. owen is not appropriate. you can have four minutes in four seconds to respond. i will yield. i believe ms. owens when he used the word hilarious it was referencing the fact that no one had asked a question. wasn't the subject matter of the hearing, is that right? >> that is correct. >> perhaps it's just not appropriate mr. chairman for how witnesses are supposed to be in front of this committee now so think you didn't say it doesn't matter about the subject matter of this hearing. he said there were other subjects that matter as well and maybe we should spend some time in those. is that accurate? >> that is correct in a matter much, much, much more and i said in my opening and i will say it again. you know the white supremacy and white nationalism ranks nowhere near the top of the issues in black america and the reason you are bring

i want to recognize mr. meadows for five minutes. i wasn't going to ask questions, but i'm trying to get my hands around this. you made a statement was program is going away, you set a program is going away in this deferred action in terms of the case by case situation from what i understand it's not going the way it's just the proposal is to move it to i.c.e., so what program is going away? >> what program is going away? i guess what i'm saying is i'm not aware of any program that has been recommended that goes away. these cases have been opened back up, but my understanding was we are going to move it over soviet adjudication is handled. as that's not perfect? >> my understanding is part of the problem here is that there have been no public notices of any of this. >> but your statement a few minutes ago was that the program was going away. so what program is that, the deferred action. and you are basing that action as going away based on what? that is one notice for one individual. >> i get that for the 400 some odd that are reopen

meadows and mr. babbin. you have to know that it's going to affect -- if the money is coming from our area. every member here has to go back. this is a problem we're having that i -- i can we've addressed that yet either. it's time we step up and time we get this done. legislators need to hear from the public on this issue because it's an important issue, but i think we also have to address those very, very important questions about how we will spend that funding and how those dollars will be efficiently invested. just one other point, and thank you, madam chair. you know, a state like pennsylvania that has made the commitment to invest in infrastructure, we have a fairly high gas tax. there are a number of reasons for that, put biggest reason is we recognize the need to do that. i want to know as well that if there are dollars coming from from pennsylvania into the federal system that pennsylvania will receive credit for the investments they have already made and for what we've already asked for taxpayers f

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. >> i ask the chairman when we might have an opportunity to question mr. horowitz. he said i don't know. i haven't thought about that. of course you haven't thought about that. too busy trying to impeach the president. >> now congressman jordan along with mark meadows where they'll get a chance in just a few hours to ask the inspector general about all of that and meadows says this morning those questions from republicans will be focused on the former f.b.i. director. >> jim and i were in there actually during congressional testimony asking jim comey questions. he gave conflicting answers with what the inspector general has reported. so now what we've done is we've gone over his testimony and the inspector general's report and find major inconsistencies. hopefully some of that will come out today. >> questions will come regarding fisa abuses from republicans. that's not what the hearing is about. over seeing the overseers of the inspector general of integrity and efficiency. horowitz is not the only witness. i think we can expect fireworks between republicans and de