but it wasn't quite so simple for ukraine the truth is ukraine has never been a united country. when world war 2 broke out a large part of western ukraine's population welcomed the german soldiers as liberators from the recently forced upon them soviet rule and openly collaborated with the germans. the real scale of collaboration was not announced for many years after the war but we now know that whole divisions and battalions were formed by ukrainian collaborators such as s.s. c. and not to call and roll into battalions. just in the beginning of the war more than $80000.00 people from college cina region voluntarily enrolled into division s.s. galad seen in a month and a half notorious for their extreme cruelty towards the polish jewish and russian people on the territory of ukraine. members of these military groups came mostly from the organization of ukrainian nationalists b.-o. un founded in 1929 this organization had an ultimate goal of creating an ethnically pure independent ukraine and considered terror an acceptable tool for achieving their ends their official flag was b

not long ago it was russia russia russia now it's ukraine ukraine ukraine partisan hacks media. america's political drama. here. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest to me he's a political analyst and editor at innocent the internet media project and in london we crossed alexander material he is a writer on legal affairs as well as the editor in chief of the duran dot com all right gentlemen cross-like rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate alexander let me go to you in london i'm so pleased to have you india on the program here just the 2 of you because it gives you more time to talk about a story that is much more complex and longer than audiences in the west are being given by the mainstream media everyone is talking about the 2016 election well i would go a little bit further back and the very least i go back to 2014 with the illegal overthrow of a democratically elected government with the support of the e.u. and the united states now the predicate of all of this the large the biggest picture of all is nato expansi

love for ukraine. lovely as they are, right? there isn't some terrifically spiritual bond between our countries that supersedes the bonds we have with other countries the only reason we've been supporting them is because they were freaking invaded by russia, right, which is a very unusual thing. up until now on a bipartisan basis, we, the yierkts helped support that country because they were invaded by russia and russia is occupying part of them. we have been helping them keep their country intact while russia is trying to take it. so to the extent we are now no longer supporting ukraine or we are making our support for them contingent on these political favors for president trump for his re-election campaign, it's a radical change in a short period of time in terms of what the u.s. is doing and what are when a our attitude is toward that world-changing event from 2014. and i think now it's becoming clear why or at least it's becoming clear how this all fits together. the "new york times" this weekend

western oriented ukraine and those who i wouldn't call it a pro russian ukraine i would say a truly independent ukraine having an autonomous its own vision of its own foreign policy and you can about i mean there's we have to get away from this false dichotomy. but these approach western forces have a very tenuous relationship with the west because it's all about what is the west doing for ukraine which is at the forefront at the the ball work of and he russian. and the russian policy to the extent that the west and i think it's clear is not going to support that kind of long term anti what the russian initiative these forces in western ukraine are going to be disillusioned with the west and one already sees this in the statements of current members of parliament for example that maybe we should rename the party servant of the people which is their dance party into servant of the i.m.f. because the i.m.f. really has us by the throat and is never going to let go of this. just one example of the of the true attitude of the west toward you probably would be but you know we would have predict we pr

here for example as ukraine's national and t. corruption bureau chief sit nick recorded bragging about how he helped hillary clinton during the 2016 election. yes i helped not trump but hillary i helped her who really belongs to the cohorts of politicians who comprise the huge money in the us both in the u.s. and in the entire world for us that is sort of better oh you could definitely film sensitive 3 with these guys but the audio is real confirmed by ukraine's attorney general it was mr sit nick by the way who published dirt on trump's campaign manager in 2016 in a real lost anyway but the fellow tried so what if you don't have guns to sell or elections to win whatever for. example daddy wants to get his young boy a nice cushy job where he didn't have to do much well ukraine's the help booth john biden's son and john kerry's stepson landed executive jobs that are ukrainian energy companies now strap yourself in hunter biden earned $50000.00 a month 50000 in a country where the average wage is a few $100.00 and you know what in

here for example as ukraine's national and t. corruption bureau chief sit nick recorded bragging about how he helped hillary clinton during the 2016 election. many more yes i helped him not trump but hillary hillary belongs to the cohort of politicians who comprise the hegemony in the us in the us and the long time world for us it is sort of better. so you could definitely film sensitive 3 with these guys but the audio is real confirmed by ukraine's attorney general it was mr sit nick by the way who published dirt on trump's camp. pain manager in 2016 in the real lost anyway but the fellow tried so what if you don't have guns to sell or elections to win what if for example daddy wants to get his young boy a nice cushy job where he didn't have to do much well ukraine's the help booth john biden's son and john kerry's stepson landed executive jobs that are ukrainian energy companies now strap yourself in hunter biden earned 50000 dollars a month 50000 in a country where the average wage is a few $100.00 and you know what in the wei

we are left it in the ukraine. they say you lecture us on corruption and your idiot press can't figure out we were paying off joe biden and what you think the chinese say? they were paying $1.5 billion to this kid who were buying the vice president. >> appreciate your coming on. >> you should do something about it. >> ahead, a couple extraordinary news conferences. immediate reaction to donald trump inviting china and ukraine to investigate biden. i've always had a knack for finding things... ...colon cancer,to be exact. and i find it noninvasively... no need for time off or special prep. it all starts here... you collect your sample, and cologuard uses the dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers. you can always count on me to know where to look. oh, i found them! i can do this test now! ask your doctor if cologuard is right for you. covered by medicare and most major insurers >> many journalists were stunned ever weeklong frenzy where donald trump's call with ukraine at leader, he went in front of the camer

ambassador to ukraine. if nothing else, her testimony today appears from the outside to have been thorough. she emerged from that closed door deposition after nine plus hours. she didn't get out until 7:40 p.m. eastern time. joining us now is tom melinowski. he served as an assistant secretary of state in both the state department and national security council. thank you for making time tonight. i know it's been a long day. >> thank you so much. >> i was struck by the congressman said there about how it was eight hours that went like a new york second that he seemed -- he seemed moved by the testimony. how would you describe the testimony today? >> i agree. you know, we spent nine hours with a diplomat, a patriot of tremendous courage and integrity who answered questions honestly, thoroughly and who set an example today that not only should you obey a legally binding subpoena, but you can. you can be a career civil servant or foreign service officer and despite the president's efforts to deny you the opport

ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. so they give tons of money to this pac that's supporting sessions' re-election and pledge to raise tens of thousands of dollars for his re-election. they get a meeting with sessions and say you've got to help us get this ambassador out of there. and in fact republican congressman pete sessions makes good on his end of the bargain. nbc news has obtained the letter that congressman sessions sent to secretary of state mike pompeo shortly after that meeting with these guys who have now been arrested. in that letter congressman sessions in fact tells the secretary of state that he should, quote, consider terminating her ambassadorship as soon as possible. so again, i mean the scheme here for which president trump is being kbeechimpeached is a simp thing. but in order to enact this scheme where he's going to get help from ukraine against the democrats, a lot of different people had to play their part. this is something he did on his own. he put the u.s. government to work to enact this sche

policy in ukraine. on the one him the departure of volcker could have played a positive role because indeed from the russian perspective the role of all code was apparently negative right walker prevent the implementation of the means and persuaded ukraine to continue to subsidize the implementation on the other camp in the current. situation of scandal i truly don't believe that the departure of walter will matter for the american pull the seat towards ukraine because there is no policy in conditions of the current scandal impeachment investigation the american policy towards ukraine will be paralyzed it will be ultimately dependent on the believe that goal domestic political interplay on the huge towards the impeachment in these conditions there is nothing that washington can or would want to do viz of ukraine i think the white house will try its best you know to be in that cell from the ukraine the i'm go in general you know the the absence of the interlocutor will not change the situation to read th

ukraine ukraine what partisan hacks in biased media won't tell you is why ukraine has become part of america's political drama you'll only hear it here on crossfire. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor at innocent me internet media project and in london we crossed alexander material he is a writer on legal affairs as well as the editor in chief of the duran dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate alexander let me go to you in london i'm so pleased to have you in on the program here just the 2 of you because it gives you more time to talk about a story that is much more complex and longer than audiences in the west are being given by the mainstream media everyone is talking about the 2016 election well i would go a little bit further back and the very least i'd go back to 2014 would be illegal overthrow of a democratically elected government with the support of the e.u. and the united states now the predicate of all of this the larger th

trump was up to in ukraine. they represented that bipartisan policy and it's not a surprise to me that they're the first people who are going to testify in front of that impeachment inquiry. the last thing, rachel that's really important is the republicans used to be more hawkish about this. the criticism we got in the obama administration from people like lindsey graham was we weren't doing enough to support ukraine. now republicans have done a 180, saying there's nothing wrong with this call transcript. it's a window into the cynicism of the republican party. how much they flipped on this issue just to protect trump. >> and ben, as we go forward and head into these next couple of days with mike pompeo essentially threatening that he's going to try to block those officials you were just describing from speaking to congress, we don't exactly know how this is going to go with these depositions and when they're going to happen and who exactly is going to show up and how much the state department is going to do to

to ukraine. it's not at all clear why this state department needed an envoy to ukraine when we already had an ambassador to ukraine. but it seems one of kurt volker's missions was to translate trump to the new ukrainian president. that means volker was in frequent contact with bill taylor who became, in effect, the acting ambassador in ukraine after donald trump removed the ambassador who rudy giuliani did not find to be cooperative enough to help the trump campaign by investigating joe biden. the "new york times" reports this smoking gun, he disclosed a set of texts in september in which bill taylor, the top american diplomat and ukraine alluded to mr. trump's decision earlier in the summer to freeze a military aid package to the country. he told mr. sondland and mr. volker i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. that is a very smokey gun in writing. a member of the trump administration's diplomatic core, the highest ranking diplomat in ukraine puts

but it wasn't quite so simple for ukraine the truth is ukraine has never been a united country. when world war 2 broke out a large part of western ukraine's population welcomed the german soldiers as liberators from the recently forced upon them soviet rule and openly collaborated with the germans. the real scale of collaboration was not announced for many years after the war but we now know that whole divisions and battalions were formed by ukrainian collaborators such as s.s. c. and not to go and roll into battalions. just in the beginning of the war more than $80000.00 people from college cina region voluntarily enrolled into division s.s. galad seen in a month and a half notorious for their extreme cruelty towards the polish jewish and russian people on the territory of ukraine. members of these military groups came mostly from the organization of ukrainian nationalists b o un founded in 1929 this organization had an ultimate goal of creating an ethnically pure independent ukraine and considered terror an acceptable tool for achieving their ends their official flag was black

in ukraine gate. and we're going to be a mother we had great people paul martin for good point you know when we crossed arad scandalous articles about him in the washington post by and have a warm august basically they all forgot to mention that he didn't do anything in russia he did everything he knew graeme and so did the d n c and he was i'm sorrier but at least he walked on his specialty he was a political consultant he got millions for that but the bidens look millions for something he didn't understand here showing him because his father's name but he was his father son he didn't understand anything in their street or in energy where did you come to buy them get education in energy star gets you know so the 4th story isn't what i'm going to run into and break from what i understand. knew a lot about pharmaceuticals if you know what i mean we're going to go to a short break here and after a short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news stay with our team. live. oh. please. please.

diplomat in ukraine at the time. he writes, i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. gordon sondland, the u.s. ambassador to the eu responds, bill, i believe you are incorrect about president trump's intentions. the president has been crystal clear, no quid pro quos of any kind. the president is trying to evaluate whether ukraine is truly going adopt the transparency and reforms that president zelensky promised during his campaign. sondland then asked to take it offline. quote, i suggest we stop the back and forth by text. congressman mike quigley is on the intelligence committee. his staff were among those that interviewed the source of those texts, kurt volcker. congressman quigley, i'll get to the texts in a minute. your take on rachael bade's reporting that volker testified a meeting between ukraine's president and trump was contingent on the ukrainian president agreeing to make a statement regarding the bidens. >> i want to make clear i have read the text multiple ti

military aid to ukraine. from the johns hopkins school of international study, this is an hour and 15 minutes. >> i'd like to welcome everybody to the russia-you're asia seminar. we do it every two weeks, as you know, and given the speaker that we have and the topic is going to deal with. we have the pleasure of welcoming c-span here which is broadcasting this event as far as i can tell live on c-span2. i'm charles gotti. i organize these seminars and i say very little because i want the speaker to have as much time as possible. just to give you a little background. he hails from massachusetts and the soviet studies at harvard, before that, he got his va also in soviet studies and political science from tufts university. at harvard he studied with the legendary adam olamb and in tufts with solitary and old friend of mine, indeed. >> he left washington after, ana professor at -- in florida, at -- at florida international university, and that's a move that is shrouded in mystery, because few people do that, but

ukraine ukraine what partisan hacks in biased media won't tell you is why ukraine has become part of america's political drama you'll only hear it here on crossfire. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor at innocent me internet media project and in london we crossed alexander material he is a writer on legal affairs as well as the editor in chief of the duran dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate alexander let me go to you in london i'm so pleased to have you in on the program here just the 2 of you because it gives you more time to talk about a story that is much more complex and longer than audiences in the west are being given by the mainstream media everyone is talking about the 2016 election well i would go a little bit further back and the very least i go back to 2014 with the illegal overthrow of a democratically elected government with the support of the e.u. and the united states now the predicate of all of this the larger the

in ukraine gate. and we're going to be a mother we had great people paul martin for good point you know when we crossed arad scandalous articles about him in the washington post by and have a warm where are the us basically they all forgot to mention that he didn't do anything in russia he did everything in ukraine and go to the d n c and he was i'm sorrier at least he walked on his specialty he was a political consultant he got millions for that but the biden's work millions for something he didn't understand the action in because of his father's name but he was his father son he didn't understand anything in their straight or in energy where did you come to buy them get education in energy star gets you know so the more stories of what i'm going to run into and break from and understand. knew a lot about pharmaceuticals you know what i mean we're going to go to a short break here and after a short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news stay with our team. yes. that's kalash too long

more clashes in ukraine's capital kiev. there is absolutely no you shall start to go with your heart caricature everybody. now on the brink of a civil war at least 70 dead so far and the death toll rising it you can allude you . a new music. hall we saw here today was a revolution. to. get invested over $5000000000.00 to assist ukraine in knees and. nato has expanded into 13 countries up to the borders of russia 13 countries. focus . on not allowing buy into hot wall between ukraine and russia. that the. city would. the the the low the to. elude . police. are little. plug 11 . ukraine. it's an ancient and proud land. with a rich history filled with much beauty heroism and sacrifice. ukraine is a border land. a place where east meets west. this is the flag of ukraine the blue represents the sky the gold its seemingly endless fields of wheat. ukraine is a prize many have sought. and much blood spilled in the quest to possess it. ukraine has been the pathway for western powers as they attempted to conquer the east. in world wa

policy in ukraine. on the one hand the departure of volcker could have played a positive role because indeed from the russian perspective the role of all code was apparently negative right walker prevent the implementation of the means and persuaded ukraine to continue to subsidize the implementation on the other camp in the current situation of scandal i truly don't believe that the departure of walker will matter for the american pull we see towards ukraine because there is no policy in conditions of the current scandal impeachment investigation the american policy towards ukraine will be paralyzed it will be ultimately dependent on the believe the goal domestic political interplay all the hue towards the impeachment in these conditions there is nothing that washington can or would want to do viz of ukraine i think the white house will try its best you know to distant itself from the ukrainian go in general does he know the the absence of the interlocutor will change the situation to read the rest bec

biden was in ukraine. some of the timeline people question. let's talk about this. when it comes to how people are treated let's listen to adam schiff on working with foreign dirt when it comes to donald trump. >> what is the nature? >> we will be back in touch with our staff to make arrangements to obtain these materials. heather: they are okay with getting foreign dirt. >> what adam schiff is saying is thank you for providing what you say you are providing. i will have my team look into this and he didn't run with it. when people engage members of congress with dirt or whistleblowing, and i was congressional staff. it's not a simple job and members of congress by doing what he did, not saying i ignore it and i will have my people look at it and he didn't do anything with it. heather: we appreciate you joining us. thank you. the time is 20 minutes after the top of the hour. elizabeth warren wants to break up facebook if she becomes president, mark zuckerberg is ready for a fight. >> i would bet we would h

into hot for between ukraine and russia. ukraine. it's an ancient and proud land. with a rich history filled with much beauty heroism and sacrifice. ukraine is a border land. a place where east meets west. this is the flag of ukraine the blue represents the sky the gold it's seemingly endless fields of wheat. ukraine is a prize many have sought. and much blood spilled in the quest to possess it. ukraine has been the pathway for western powers as they attempted to conquer the east. in world war one. and world war 2. and every time the ukrainian people ended up paying the highest price for these grand games of power. history doesn't repeat but it surely rhymes said mark twain. if one looks closely at the history of ukraine one will notice many rhymes. being surrounded by stronger powers ukraine has needed a lot of cunning to survive and the art they truly mastered with time is the art of changing sides. in the middle of the 17th century ukrainian leader. broke a truce agreement made with poland siding more powerful russia. just over 50 years later as the russian swed

in ukraine gate. and we're going to be a mother we had great people paul martin for good point you know when we 1st arrived scandalous articles about him in the washington post by and have a warm august basically they all forgot to mention that he didn't do anything in russia he did everything in ukraine and so did the d n c and he was i'm sorrier but at least he walked on his specialty he was a political consultant he got millions for that but the bidens or chameleons for something he didn't understand creation in because of his father's name but he was his father son he didn't understand anything in gas trade or in energy where did we come to buy them get education in energy studies you know so the 4th story isn't what i'm going to write or break for but understand. knew a lot about pharmaceuticals if you know what i mean we're going to go to a short break here and after a short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news stay with our team. just. in this context i'm almost a last chance

ukraine should be recognized. i don't think anyone is questioning ukraine's independence except for mr. putin, perhaps and people around him. a foreign policy success at ukraine's expense would not be a foreign policy success. i think the blowback from the congress, from the think tank, university community, everywhere , would be so severe that if the president tried to push some resolution that came at ukraine's expense -- i think that in order for it to be labeled a success, it cannot come at ukraine's expense. on crimea, turkey could make some claims on crimea since until mid- 18 century. in 54, it was given to the ukrainians. socialist republic. acknowledgment of agreement of that. ninety-four and 97 with the russia ukraine friendship treaty it is only mr. putin and those like him that want to eat erase all of that and claim that crimea actually belongs to russia. if we allow that to happen, then we are losing. in my view, the international community should never recognize crimea as part of russia. we never re

ukraine ukraine what partisan hacks in biased media won't tell you is why ukraine has become part of america's political drama you'll only hear it here on crossfire. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest to me he's a political analyst and editor at innocent me internet media project and in london we crossed alexander material he is a writer on legal affairs as well as the editor in chief of the duran dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate alexander let me go to you in london i'm so pleased to have you india on the program here just the 2 of you because it gives you more time to talk about a story that is much more complex and longer than audiences in the west are being given by the mainstream media everyone is talking about the 2016 election well i would go a little bit further back and the very least i'd go back to 2014 with the illegal overthrow of a democratically elected government with the support of the e.u. and the united states now the predicate of all of this the larger the bigge

-ukraine relations. volodymyr zelensky had just been elected president and ukraine remained at war with russia. as the summer approached, a new ukrainian government would be seated, parliamentary elections were imminent and the ukrainian political trajectory would be set for the next several years. i cared about ukraine's future and the important u.s. interests there. so when secretary pompeo asked me to go back to kiev, i wanted to say yes but it was not an easy decision. the former ambassador, masha yovanovitch, had been treated poorly caught in a web of machinations both in kiev and in washington. i feared those problems were still present. when i talked to her about accepting the offer, however, she urged me to go both for policy reasons and for the morale of the embassy. before answering the secretary, though, i consulted both my wife and a respected former senior republican official who's been a mentor to me. i'll tell you my wife in no uncertain terms strongly opposed the idea. the mentor counsele

ukraine and then u.k. and the west has been pushing for that you know during the last 5 years but the point is that these last these very division because if you want to impose the same identity on many different people. here and you're you know you have excellent reading skills that's not really going that's all the time we don't hear many things like it's here in moscow and thanks for viewers for watching us here in our d.c. units remember. there are no official statistics in india concerning children who have been long still separated from their parents some are to estimate that every 30 minutes in the country the child goes missing. on up. or you are looking at. the national human rights commission stated that $44000.00 minors go missing every year while the police quoted. the united nations children's fund has described the situation as genocide and various sources suggest that in india there was several 1000000 missing women and children. facebook and google started with a great idea and great ideals

security assistance to ukraine. so a lot of document requests coming from capitol hill as they seek to move rapidly in their impeachment inquiry, wolf. >> we'll see what happens. the clock is ticking. right now lauren fox, thank you. >>> let's go to the white house. our chief white house correspondent is there. jim, what is the reaction to the whirp wind developments. >> reporter: it seems the stonewalling continues. president trump threatening to fire off a letter from the white house saying that white house lawyers will not cooperate until house democrats hold a vote on their impeachment inquiry. we are just finding out now that letter may not be coming from the white house until monday at the earliest. and that there is a bit of an internal debate going on inside of the president's impeachment team as to whether or not to fire off that letter. as for the request for information from vice president mike pence, his office has just responded with a statement saying that this request for documents and other informati

special envoy to ukraine. now he is the former special envoy because last friday he abruptly resigned after he was named in the whistle-blower complaint that has given rise to this impeachment investigation. and really, even with the seemingly nonstop flow of breaking news about this whole impeachment scandal, there is a ton we don't know. it is unclear whether u.s. special envoy kurt volker may have been part of this scheme to pressure the ukrainian government. he showed up meeting with the ukrainian government right after president trump pressured them in a phone call to hand over dirt on biden as a condition of getting military aid. was volker part of this scheme, part of enacting that pressure campaign by president trump? or was he not part of this scheme but rather an important witness to it who might be able to shed light on what was done wrong? we may be about to get some answers. the house of representatives as part of their impeachment inquiry announced they'll be deposing five key state department of

and so the security of ukraine, the budding democracy in ukraine, is a really important issue to me, and to see a president just put our vital interests like that at risk for his own political ends is something that we just can't stand for as americans. >> congressman, is it as clear as what we've described that ambassador bill taylor believes that military aid for american ally, ukraine, who is, as you just described, our buffer, our democratic ally there, in russia's neighborhood, that he testified today that military aid for that country was tied to a public commitment to investigate burisma? >> you know, i apologize, nicolle, i heard just now while i was listening that you all evidently have this testimony. i apologize. i'm not going to talk about what he said at all. i really respect this process. what i can tell you is that the -- it's -- the case is overwhelming and it really ratifies the process we're going through. very soberly having witness after witness come in and build the fact case about what actually transpired and as other people have said, there were, you know, a tr

william taylor is an expert on ukraine. he served as george w. bush's ambassador to ukraine. and after donald trump forced out marie yovanovitch as ambassador, william taylor is serving as acting ambassador to ukraine. he testified for ten hours today under oath about what rudy giuliani and donald trump have been doing with ukraine, yes, william taylor delivered testimony devastating to president trump. one freshman member of the committee hearing his testimony today said after the first couple hours of william taylor's testimony that it was, quote, my most disturbing day in congress so far. that congressman will join us in a moment. william taylor's testimony could make the impeachment of donald trump bipartisan. his testimony could turn some republican votes in the house of representatives and it might be the testimony that convinces republican senator mitt romney to vote to convict and remove donald trump from office. donald trump's very rich and totally incompetent and unqualified ambassador to the european union, gordon sondland, could face perjury charges after william

government's support of ukraine. i realize that if ukraine pursued an investigation into the bidens and burisma, it would be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. this would all undermine u.s. national security. following the call i, again, reported my concerns to the lead counsel for the national security council." and it goes on. again, this just obtained this evening. the opening statement from lieutenant colonel alexander vinman, top ukraine official on the national security council who appears to validate the concerns of the whistle-blower that led to these impeachment proceedings against the president. and express his own alarm at what he saw on that call and of the president's behavior. more to come. stay with us. it's been a long time since andrew dusted off his dancing shoes. luckily denture breath will be the least of his worries. because he uses polident 4 in 1 cleaning system to kill 99.99% of odor causing bacteri

western oriented ukraine and those who i wouldn't call it a pro russian ukraine i would say a truly independent ukraine having an autonomous its own vision of its own foreign policy and you call that i mean there's we have to get away from this false dichotomy. but these a pro western forces have a very tenuous relationship with the west because. it's all about what is the west doing for ukraine which is at the forefront at the the ball work of and he russian. and anti russian policy to the extent that the west and i think it's clear is not going to support that kind of long term anti what anti russian initiative these forces in western ukraine are going to be disillusioned with the west and one already sees this in. the statements of current members of parliament for example that maybe we should rename the party servant of the people which is their party into servant of the i.m.f. because the i.m.f. really has us by the throat and is never going to let go and this is just one example of the of the true attitude of the west toward the would be but you know we would have predict we predicted thi

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advice on ukraine and they are pushing in this impeachment inquiry. the question of whether they were part of the quid pro quo, to withhold anything from milita military aid to diplomatic meetings with ukrainians until they looked at the energy company that employed joe biden's son for a while. this is a step that reads like a movie script in a way. it indicates the speed that this is moving. the scrutiny from congress and not just from a partisan perspective, but from federal prosecutors who are serve iing under who the president appoi appointed. that's a significant step on the gravity of this. this is a charge that involves the former congress mman. >> i was going to ask about your article here in "the washington post." you write about the political appointees overriding career staffers when it comes to the aid that was frozen to ukraine. can you talk to me about when the aid was frozen in relation to the call that president trump made to the ukraine president? and who froze it? >> that article focuses more on the office of management and budget. w

there are all kinds of factions inside ukrain. they were using giuliani as much as he was trying to use them. squeshe understood who the good guys were and bad guys were and the people throwing dirt on joe biden were not good guys. >> what president trump calls bad things most ous would regard as good things. that's what our former ambassador was doing there as her testimony today, at least the part we've been able to read, makes clear. she was trying toing do what any u.s. ambassador should do which is push a can country away from krupgsz. corruption. while he's claimed it was his efforts to redact corruption, it was his lawyer rudy giuliani, injecting corruption into the system. >> do you see this as donald trump's impeachment stonewall strategy seeping out? they may want to speak and at times disagree with the device or request not to but they honorer it. there's something differants happening when we see a failings of officials to speak out. >> before the people they were preventing from going to testify in the mueller investi

diplomat in ukraine texted sonland saying president zelensky is sensitive about ukraine taking seriously not just as in washington domestic policy politics. >> and a phone call with the ukrainian president, volker texted zelensky's aide this, heard from white house, and assuming he will investigate and get to what happened, we will nail down a date in washington. >> hi, mr. mayor had, a good chat with yermak, zelensky's aide, pleased with your phone call, and mentioned making a stakes, and can we get on a phone call that i advise z correctly as to what he should be saying. make sure we get it done right. and the next day, text to volker, he wants to get a date for the white house visit before committing to a statement of the bidens and the 2016 election. the aide texts, once we have a date, we will have a press briefing outlining a visit and outlining a vision for the reboot of the u.s./ukraine re-election, including among other things election meddling. on august 28, zelensky's aide texted back saying, quote, i need to talk to you. well, several days go by. then, on september 1st, there

there in ukraine. thanks. >>> china is celebrating 70 years of communist rule today, while protesters take to the streets of hong kong. look at this huge national parade in beijing. china's military might on full display. with 100,000 participants and 1, 2,019 of them carrying a giant flag. protesters were out early this morning shutting down the subway in hong kong. we're following both sides of this historic day. lit's begin in beijing. chr kristie lu stout is there. >> reporter: this moarks 70 yeas of the founding of the people's republic of china. there will be demonstrations and fireworks, but first is the massive military procession that marched up and down the avenue. we witnessed all of the military personnel taking part in the march. 580 pieces of military equipment. military analysts all around the world were taking close notice to new firepower on display, including the dff one, a new ballistic missile that is believed to be among the most powerful in the world. earlier today, we heard from

ukraine, at least, is an ally. this is not a friend. and imploring them to effectively provide his opposition research for his political campaign. >> let's talk about the vice president, dana, because the "washington post" says president trump told vice president pence not to attend the ukranian president's inauguration, which he was going to do, and it was this crucial time when the newly elected leader was obviously looking for signs of support from the u.s., and then the president, as we know, would go on to hold up the aid to ukraine and then ask for a favor. the paper also says trump had pence deliver the news to ukraine that their aid was going to be withheld at the same time the president was asking ukraine to investigate, quote, unquote, corruption. which, by the way, can we just put out there, ukraine has clearly had issues with corruption, but it actually has made some improvements. and i think that's the context at which -- >> part of it was biden getting the former prosecutor out of there. >> yeah. so does the vice president

aid to ukraine until ukraine looked into trump's political rivals. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. you were not part of the committees involved in this testimony from bill taylor yesterday. but like the rest of us, i am sure you've read through this stunning 15-page opening statement that is now public. and when you read it with your prosecutor's eyes, what jumps out to you? >> what jumps out to me is this is a man of service. this is somebody who is putting his country first. he has been in service to this country his entire career. i think what really comes to me is his concern for our country. his concern for the actions of this sort of shadow group of people that were operating i would say against the interest of the united states. >> you say what jumped out to you was his service to the country. press secretary stephanie grisham in a statement that was released after his testimony said, quote, this is a coordinated smear campaign from far left lawmakers waging war on the constitution. he's a vietnam war veteran, a west point grad who

and people related to the ukraine -- related to ukraine inside of the government. and he was asking the white house at different points to work with him on those issues. he sat with vice president pence in warsaw in september as he met with president zelensky. so he has been involved. that's the challenge when you talk to white house advisers tonight. they say rudy giuliani is out there on a limb with these associates doing his own investigation without any kind of approval from the government. that's at least formal approval. and then you have secretary perry with his energy issues and his friends in the energy business. and they're not really sure what's going to happen next. and that's why congress is seeking those documents. >> again, absent an announcement by the cabinet secretary, there were reports of his pending departure right around the time the ukraine story broke. now robert, it occurs to us that robert mueller didn't have this luxury. the luxury of air support on a given charge where people from inside came forward and said yeah, i was there. it was aw

here for example as ukraine's national and t. corruption bureau chief sit nick recorded bragging about how he helped hillary clinton during the 2016 election. not trump but hillary i help to hillary belongs to the co-hosts of politicians who comprise the her germany in the us both in the us and in the entire world for runs that is sort of better oh you could definitely film sensitive 3 with these guys but the audio is real confirmed by ukraine's attorney general it was mr sit nick by the way who published dirt on trump's campaign manager in 2016 in the real last anyway but the fellow tried so what if you don't have guns to sell or elections to win what if for example daddy wants to get in. is young boy a nice cushy job where he didn't have to do much well ukraine's the help booth john biden's son and john kerry's stepson landed executive jobs at the ukrainian energy company now strap yourself in hunter biden earned $50000.00 a month 50000 in a country where the average wage is a few $100.00 and you know what in the weird and wack

and issues of corruption in ukraine. that was all we discussed. the simple truth is that those are the same issues that the president raised with president zelensky in their call. anyone who looks at the president's transcript will see that the president was raising issues that were appropriate, that were of genuine interest to the american people. >> greg miller is national security correspondent to "the washington post" i'm such a fan of all your reporting but this story jumps off the page, how is it going to land with the guy in the office with no corners? it seemed to me that pence did a little bit of dancing today. >> yeah, i mean, i think he's in a tough spot. he has so far in this presidency walked this tightrope where he sort of is supporting the president at every step but simultaneously keeping some distance away from him, enough distance that he hasn't been terribly tainted by all these scandals. i think in our story today we were trying to write about just how difficult it is to kind of accept that assertion

who would like to influence me but i love the president of ukraine of independent ukraine and it seems to me that my state so far shows that it is impossible to influence me. castro joins us live now from washington d.c. heidi what more do we know about this heated exchange between sect your state might compare and the democratic chairman. well they're accusing both sides are accusing each other of intimidating witnesses but it's curious because these are witnesses who are former and current state department employees and it's an open question exactly who they may feel that they need protection from these are individuals who are implicated in this ukraine investigation by who may not be defacto trump defenders who are we talking about well one witness in part to go there is marie. vonnegut she is the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine who was suddenly recalled to washington in may and her name came up in this phone call between president and the president of ukraine in july in which trump said that she was in his words bad news she reportedly wasn't on board with the president's efforts

here for example as ukraine's national and t. corruption bureau chief sit nick recorded bragging about how he helped hillary clinton during the 2016 election yes a little more yes i helped him not trump but hillary hillary belongs to the cohort of politicians who comprise the hegemony in the us both in the us and in the entire world for us it is sort of better. oh you could definitely film sensitive 3 with these guys but the audio is real confirmed by ukraine's attorney general it was mr sit nick by the way who published dirt on trump's campaign manager in 2016 in a real lost anyway but the fellow tried so what if you don't have guns to sell or elections to win what if for example daddy ma. to get his young boy a nice cushy job where he didn't have to do much well ukraine's the help booth john biden's son and john kerry's stepson landed executive jobs at the ukrainian energy company now strap yourself in hunter biden earned $50000.00 a month 50000 in a country where the average wage is a few $100.00 and you know what in the weird

supported ukraine. he denied them a white house visit until he could promise he could get what he wanted. why is that dangerous? what can you tell the american people about why it's important for us to support ukraine? >> first of all, look what he did. he, obviously, used taxpayer funded assistance, passed by the congress on a bipartisan basis, to both threaten an intimidate the new president of ukraine, to investigate his political opponents for the purpose of advancing his own re-election. now, that has so many elements in it and it's one of the reasons why i think it's broken through to the american people. it also is troubling that ukraine has been a subject of constant pressure from vladimir putin and the russian interests in ukraine. so you have the trump administration, the president, the vice president, others actually pressuring a new president who has a part of his country invaded and occupied by russian troops, and putting this poor new president in this vice. you think you are going to get

i get you have an easier sell in ukraine. i were telling us you had enough then and then went silent on it so i'm glad you brought that up. in terms of what else do you need to basically bring up an indictment be? you heard enough today. >> i think that's right, but i think that, you know, the speaker and the leadership of the impeachment inquiry panel want to be extremely thorough. they want to cross every t and dot every i so nobody can athis is a bums rush job. >> the republicans say you haven't brought anybody up that said trump said it was a quid pro quo. i don't believe you need a quid pro quo. i don't think this is like boxes that need to be checked in boxes. but even if you did need a quid pro quo, how did you not get it today in. >> who said we need to prove there's a quid pro quo? but by the way, the transcript the white house itself released clearly says extortion is going on. if you want military aid resumed and you want to have a meeting with me in the white house, you need to do a favor for me, though. that favo

government support of ukraine. this is a just another unimpeachable character witness, somebody who -- not -- unimpeachable witness saying this is inappropriate. >> and his character, if you look at his record, he was -- he got a purple heart and served in the iraq war and somebody who felt like it was his patriotic duty to report this and he reported on two different instances first a meeting where bolton was in the meeting and then after this phone call. listen, we knew this day would come there could be somebody to come before the committee who was actually on that phone call for all of the previous depositions and the whistle-blower complaint you heard some of the trump allies and trump himself saying this is all secondhand and third-hand and fourth-hand and couldn't be believed so here is someone on the phone call and it tracks very closely with what we know that the whistle-blower said and i think you'll have the president as allies try to undermine him and some republicans today trying to push back. but it i