one source jokingly called this the vindman rule, referring there to alex vindman. the president actually spoke about alex vindman in the oval, seeming to mock him, saying he was another beauty. he also said he was able to confirm that transcript. now, we do know he said it was substantially correct. brianna? >> alexander vindman is a patriot, right? he's in the military, he has a purple heart. just want to be clear as the president critiques him. so, alex, i wonder what the effect of this is, because when you look at the people who testified, some of whom had access to this call or listened to this call, you wonder what the effect is. does that mean that if something like that happened again that there would be no one there to attest to wrongdoing? >> essentially this is an effort to reflect the fear and paranoia in the white house. fear that there are leaks, paranoia about the so-called deep state. and what pam hit on right there about the vindman rule, that basically sums it up. they are stripping out the careerist, the policymakers. as one told me, the effect is

business insider and the army is prepared to move lieutenant colonel alex vindman and his family to a safe location if necessary. reuters army sensing impeachment with the vindmans security and u.s. official. these articles are based done by the wall street journal. vindman is a virginia resident like you are. lieutenant colonel vindman is a patriotic american law you are. i'm not going to ask you whether you think it's appropriate to attack his loyalty or his patriotism or is judgment or his character because we know what you would think about such an attack and whether you think it's okay to use the white house social media account or their assets to amplify such an attack because we know what you would think about that but i will ask you this. and your role as deputy secretary of defense. will you make sure that members of >> the military are not punished or face reprisals for cooperating with congress? >> we take very seriously our responsibility to respond to congress and to the earlier part of your sentence it's related to personal security so not going to comment on measures we

after a career staffer lieutenant corner alex vindman raised concerns about the president's call to the ukrainian president, later testified to congress about it, the white house now excludes career staffers and detailees we've learned whose roles include taking notes and providing edits to the eventual transcripts of the conversations meant to clarify what was said and also heavily involved in policymaking. now, brooke, only a handful of political officials listen in. i spoke with one who called this extreme restriction the vindman rule. the president seemed to mock alex vrindman in the oval offic calling him another beauty also saying he verified the vindman transcript. vindman told congress, substantively correct but certain words were missing. >> pamela brown, thank you. >>> meantime, first lady's spokeswoman responding to the first lady's silence on greta thunberg. a student, musician and aspiring journalist. tessa majors killed in a park near her college. a crime that certainly has new yorkers rattled. we'll talk about her and the impact she had before her life was cut short. seru

nsc staff member colonel alex vindman testified that any omissions in the summary were not significant and that editing was not done maliciously. president trump has declassified and released the call summary so the american people can review it and assess it for themselves. i'll make a few points that seem to have gone undernoticed. the call summary reflects absolutely no pressure or conditionality. president zelensky vocalized in concerns with the subject matter discussed. and there is no indication of bribery, extortion or other illegal conduct on the call. the call summary shows president trump and president zelensky engaged in pleasantries and cordialities. the call reveals laughter. put simply, it is not the shakedown that some democrats have described. president trump raised his concerns about european allies paying their fair share in security assistance to ukraine, a concern that president trump would continue to raise both publicly and privately. there is no discussion on the call, i repeat, no discussion on the call about the upcoming 2020 election or security sectors' assis

he was appearing to mock the enter colonel alex vindman who still works, we should note, in the building right next to the white house jurks a few feet away from where the president was sitting there. >> as he was travelizing impeachment. it was the vice president mike pence, secretary of state mike pompeo and the chief of staff mick mulvaney who are all at the center of this scandal with the president. of course, you have to keep in mind as he's making these changes, as he's talking about whether the trial will be long or short, rudy giuliani was in this morning after he recently returned from a trip to ukraine. he said the plane was still making its way out of the runway when hely there is a lot of time to go before this trial get kicked off. zds he's northerly. kaitlan collins at the might house, appreciate it. >>> a quick break and then we're back to this historic development. the house judicialment. >>> a complicated vot vote.. >>> we can do long or short. i've heard mitch, i've heard lindsey. i think they're in agreement on some kind of concept. i'll do whatever. it doesn't matter.

. >> reporter: trump referencing but not naming lieutenant colonel alex vindman, the ukraine expert for the national security council who testified that trump's july call with the ukrainian president was improper. >> he's another beauty. >> reporter: vindman still works at the white house. and cnn has learned senior aides are now restricting who listened in on the president's calls with foreign leaders. today his personal attorney rudy giuliani was spotted entering the west wing. giuliani recently returned from another trip to ukraine seemingly unfazed by federal prosecutors who were probing his business activity. the wall street journal reports trump called giuliani while his plane was still taxiing down the runway asking what did you get? more than you can imagine, giuliani told him. now we should know that giuliani said he wants to put his finding in this 20-page report and then brief lawmakers on it. though it is unclear when he'll do that or where it will go if he does. we should note that he was at white house today, the white house officials have said repeatedly over the last sev

he called adam schiff a disgrace, and he belittled lieutenant colonel alex i vindman. he had this point that he avoided military service because of bone spurs. once we have the video in-house we will show you it in its entirety. hello? . host: go ahead. caller: i want to applaud the lady from virginia, what he said right -- what she said right on the line. a true christian does not act like trump. all i have to say in ending this conversation is to all of you wolves ins, beware of sheep clothing. host: be sure to follow us on twitter at c-span. republican line, good afternoon. thank you for taking my call. i have been trying, trying, trying. they will impeach trump, it don't matter what he does. me because i am 71 years old. not going to have anything left with the democrats go to power. host: thanks for the call. judith is next in melrose. what is your view on all of this? i am very, very upset. listening to these, i am democrat in one respect but now i don't know what to be. that when you progress and tried to get your agenda taking care of through a country , like p