gerry not the chairman of the committee and then daniel goleman later the democratically that both made a point about the president's personal lawyer rudy giuliani who has been in ukraine pretty much trying to dig up more dirt and the president's been saying all a hope he finds something more. i mean what does that represent is that i mean all this evidence is talking about stuff which is already happened but actually possibly it's all still going on right now. it is going on right now on your i think you bring it up it's hard to keep track of all the details here but that's a particularly astounding $11.00 is no longer surprised anymore by what comes up but one can still be shocked and we there are reports that rudy giuliani was in ukraine as you said just last week continuing this effort to get ukraine to do what was the president was trying to get them to do to say something that will undermine joe biden in fact this is so bad that apparently there are reports that attorney general barra has said that this is not helping the president that rudy giuliani is not helping the president w

goleman the democrats lawyer is it slightly concerning that he was a witness and then goes and sits on the bench and now is asking questions it does seem an all set up spats utterly disingenuous the republicans have argued today they have a sign up behind the placard saying where is adam where's adam schiff adam schiff was asking questions they want him to be a witness they're demanding he be a witness they have a placard of calling for to be a witness they make arguments when it suits them they are not consistent it's should not be taken seriously this is also not a court proceeding it should be emphasized as well ordinary rules don't apply ok i'm glad to clear that one up then so where is all of this taking us then you know you made the point earlier that there is almost no chance that president trump would be removed from office after a patriot because of as you said this republican senate so what are we getting out of today is it in your view is it weakening the chances of re-election in 2020 at all is it having the opposite effect. i don't know about that here's what i would sa