what does it say about nunes' potential involvement? >> well, it was a surprise to find him in there. the first thing i did after discovering his name outside of the committee was to look to see if they listed him amongst the key persons where they have an appendix afterwards. they didn't do that, obviously in deference to his position on the committee because he comes out to be a key person in telling this story. as jeff knows, this has the scent also of a parallel operation that could be well a criminal conspiracy going on here to somehow defraud the federal government. and that could involve the congressman and the congressional privilege is very narrow. it's a debate and functioning provision, and it doesn't work very well when you get outside the hall of congress and start doing activities. >> kirsten, i want to point out, we reached out to lev parnas' attorney, joseph bondy, who told us the phone records were not on tanned via his clienltd, but that they, quote, corroborate mr. parnas in key respects and if called as a witness, he

what does it say about nunes's potential involvement? >> well, it was a surprise to find him in there. the first thing i did after discovering his name outside of the committee was to look to see if they listed him amongst the key persons where they have an appendix afterwards. they didn't do that. obviously in deference to his position on the committee because he comes out to be a key person in telling this story. as jeff knows, this has the scent also of an operation that could be a criminal conspiracy going on here to somehow defraud the federal government, and that could involve the congressman and the congressional privilege is very narrow. it's a debate and functioning provision, and it doesn't work very well when you get outside the hall of congress and start doing activities. >> and we reached out to lev parnas's attorney bondi who told us that the phone records were not obtained via his client but that they corroborate mr. parnas in key respects and if called as a witness, he's prepared to explain himself. i mean, the irony here

allegedly devin nunes doing all of that. but, listen, i've got to ask you because -- >> you're a journalist. i'm a commentator. >> you said the water got really high, right? so using that analogy, it's like the ship analogy, the water analogy. the president is clearly steering the ship, but you've got people like -- the report makes it clear -- pence, pompeo, perry, mulvaney. they were all either knowledgeable or active participants. so what happened here? what's going on? >> i was going to say to extend the metaphor, the crew is much more populist than we realize. i think one of the most compelling narratives of this, and i don't mean compelling good, is the sheer number of people who once in the beginning renounced donald trump, who saw him clearly before he won the presidency, who shelved all of their principles just to be near power and just to have some power themselves. and you are seeing person after person, mulvaney, rick perry to a lesser degree, you know certainly pompeo, very striking. you're seeing person after p

nunes has been. he has abused the office of the chairmanship. >> the nunes memo is a dud. >> the devin nunes memo backfired on them. >> this is what all of the hype was about? it was like a sad trombone. [trombone noise] >> laura: more like a trumpet. course, the talking heads praised schiff. >> this is a case of nunes baselessly claim, and schiff came back with a ten page body blow. >> a very clear and lawyer like rebuttal of specific facts. >> the schiff memo definitely fills in some of the gaps in the nunes memo, and it's much more consistent with actually how the fbi obtains these things. >> laura: will now we know those blithering idiots were wrong. how any of them are in political analysis or prognostication is beyond me. ig michael horowitz new report indicates nunes. he was right on the money. schiff was peddling lies and misinformation, remember the abuse of power, impeachment article we talked about. for example, the schiff memo claims the fbi didn't omit any information in its first vice a

nunes was pretty monotone in what he was doing. i think it's really the clash or the collision of two strategies. the democrats are just about the evidence. just about the evidence. the republicans are trying to create a circus. and, you know, i think it's going to resemble, you know, a bunch of nerds on one side and a frat party on the other side. and the republicans will do whatever they can to disrupt it and -- >> i mean, if that's the case, which one do you think is more compelling? >> well, i expect that frat parties are more interesting than people arguing about the constitutional merits of high crimes and misdemeanors. >> bingo. i mean, bingo. doesn't that tell you all you need to know about how the democrats are not necessarily misplaying this but not reading the room right if. >> i don't think so. i think it's important for them to get this on the record. how do you define a high crime and misdemeanor? how this one in particular was exactly what alexander hamilton was worried about. you know, they're going to have to take

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nunes' overseas investigations? >> i am not aware of that. >> mr. chairman, you be been falsely accused throughout these proceedings by the ranking member as being a, quote, unquote, fact witness. now if this story is correct, the ranking member may have actually been projecting and in fact he may be the fact witness if he is working with indicted individuals around our investigation. >> that was congressman eric swalwell from the last day of public impeachment hearings raising the red flag about ranking member devin nunes' involvement in the scheme the committee was investigating. at that time all he had was that daily beast story. today we got the report the house intelligence committee released and ranking member devin nunes' name appears in it 50 times. the first time is on the page of it report where they list the committee. you can see it right there. more than half of the 49 other times he appears in the report are apparently him being involved in the very scheme to hijack ukraine policy that is the subject of the report and the impeachment i

nunes' overseas investigations? >> i am not aware of that. >> mr. chairman, you be been falsely accused throughout these proceedings by the ranking member as being quote-unquote a fact witness. now if this story is correct, the ranking member may have actually been projecting and in fact he may be the fact witness if he is working with indicted individuals around our investigation. >> that was congressman eric swalwell from the last day of public impeachment hearings raising the red flag about ranking member devon nunes' involvement in the scheme the committee was investigating. at that time all he had was that daily beast story. today we got the report the house intelligence committee released and ranking member devon nunes' name appears in it 50 times. the first time is on the page of it report where they list the committees. and apparently him being involve said in the very scheme to hijack ukraine policy that is the subject of the report in the impeachment inquiry itself. amidst ranking member nunes' antics during the hearings, his rants about h

allegedly devin nunes doing all of that. but listen, i've got to ask you because -- >> you're a journalist. i'm a commentator. >> you said the water got really high, right? so using that analogy, it's like the ship analogy, the water analogy. the president is clearly steering the ship, but you've got people like -- the report makes it clear, pence, pompeo, perry, mulvaney. they were all either knowledgeable or active participants. so what happened here? what's going on? >> i was going to say to extend the metaphor, the crew is much more populist than we realize. i think one of the most compelling narratives of this, presidency, i don't mean compelling good, is the sheer number of people who once in the beginning renounced donald trump, who saw him clearly before he won the presidency, who shelved all of their principles just to be near power and just to have some power themselves. and you are seeing person after person, mulvaney, rick perry to a lesser degree, you know certainly pompeo, very striking. you're seeing person af

nunes is more than welcome to come on and talk about these allegations. i have no problem with that. that brings us to a more important set of allegations. you have rudy giuliani communicating with the white house and omb, the acronym for the government agency that was in charge of controlling this aid. now, one step backwards. this guy mark sandy came forward. he testified. he left over this to his superiors, to his counsel, and saying i don't know, we're holding this aid. it may be illegal. the decision was taken from him by a political appointee named duffy. duffy takes him out of the loop. then rudy giuliani is making phone calls to omb at about the same time these conversations are supposedly happening with ukraine about the need for deliverables before they get the aid. look, it can be a coincidence but the question is why, andrew? >> that is the question, chris. and the involvement of giuliani who is -- let's remember -- the president's personal lawyer, he is representing the interests of don't j. trum donald j. trump, not the united states of amer

nunes and lev parnas. lev parnas is now indicted and one of giuliani's associates who was digging for dirt on the bidens and ukraine. so nunes was talking to both of these individuals multiple times as this theory is being publicly pushed on fox news. gloria borger, joe lockhart, press secretary for president clinton during his impeachment investigation and former prosecutor laura coates. let me start with you, how bad does it look for devin nunes who is on the intelligence committee? >> it looks pretty bad. if i was a member of the house ethics committee, first of all, i would look into this and ask questions about recusal, whatever the rules are, governing recusal in the house of representatives or disclosure, and i would be asking questions for devin nunes and i don't know if adam schiff was told about these phone calls. you know, devin nunes was a key questioner during these committee hearings. >> yeah. >> and the second thing i would worry about is the southern district of new york. the southern distr

but nunes seems undeterred. he's adding cnn to outlets and individuals he's sued this year from twitter to a fake cow, a twitter account posing as a cow from the congressman's dairy farm. nunes is testing defamation law in the twitter age and getting lots of right wing cheers whether he wins or loses. cnn is standing by the reporting. and nunes's office did not rerespondent to my request for comment n comment. i'm interested in politicians using the courts to challenge reporting. this wasn't very common five years ago but it's happening now. and in media law circles when i speak with media lawyers and experts, these are mostly seen as nuisance lawsuits. but they are being taken seriously. and they could have serious ramifications in fact let's talk with one of the defendants named by nunes, liz mayor, she's named in two of the suits. the first against twitter. >> thank you for having me. >> liz, you were sued a better part of a year ago at this point. you've been fighting in the courts. what's the status of the

what's nunes about? >> at the daily beast we were the first to report there was a connection between congressman nunes and lev parnas who was on associate of giulianis and helped him with his biden investigation. one told me on the record that parnas was helping nunes in his investigative work. and since then -- >> who's investigative work? >> the work nunes was doing at the time. later those liars went -- >> is that the same digging up the trump people were doing? >> what they say based on their conversations with parnas is that they were helping nunes work on this project of investigating the bidens and burisma. >> well, that's the trump mission. >> exactly, the same basic project. and the gist of it and what's important to remember here based on my conversations with the folks who work with lev and the others involved is there's not the traditional bifurcation you would see between the legislative and executive branch but rather all these guys were basically team trump and they were all working toward

>> you know, i'm going to leave that to devin nunes, wolf. this isn't about devin nunes. this is about the president of the united states. it is disappointing though that he used a serious impeachment inquiry to falsely attack adam schiff every single day suggesting that chairman schiff was a fact witness when all along it now seems that devin nunes, in fact, was the fact witness and he was just projecting his own guilt, his own involvement in this shakedown scheme on mr. schiff. but this isn't about devin nunes. as much as he may want it to be. this is about the president's conduct. >> how long have you had the phone records? >> i'll let the chairman speak to that. he drives our investigation. and i think they also speak for themselves in the report. >> what about the records of rudy giuliani's phone calls to the white house and the office of management and budget, will your committee continue investigating those calls? >> yes. and also you can dedeuce that you see the office of management and budget involved. they are the office that made the call that many ambassadors

maggie, devin nunes, ranking republican on the house intelligence committee used to be chairman until the democrats took control of congress, in 2018, devin nunes is all over the report and not in his role at ranking republican on the committee. he's in there as, well -- >> we don't know. >> a lot of phone messages to giuliani. phone messages with giuliani's indicted friend lev parnas. >> and we don't know the duration of the calls. they're fairly short but raising questions the republican ranking member on the committee was having discussions with this witnesses about the facts democrats were saying were not real. >> and given how much of a stink was made about a supposed conversation between the whistle-blower and staff to the house intelligence committee, you know, they sort of have thrown that away if lev parnas is off talking to devin nunes repeatedly. >> they are suggesting it's all part of a disinformation campaign? call records show communications between conservative journalist john solomon, an opinion

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at-this-point. >> republicans in house like nunes who have been manufacturing scandal. >> the nunes memo. the republican spin memo. >> nunes has been lying this entire time, the moment memo was in bad faith. elizabeth: well they were wrong. back with me now. sam dewey. your reaction to what media was wrongfully saying about devin nunes. >> i think they have a lot of egg on their face on this one. again, this is one where they done listen. they -- didn't listen and pay attention to the facts, you hear about this, a process is broken down. you may be kept call, i was -- scripskeptical, i was, the nunes report came out it was done, very excellent staff, it has been vindicated. elizabeth: here is come comb twg about the memo last february: >> you have to say, critics might say really jim comey, you knew that steele dossier of repudiated in january 17. source saying that steele was misstating and exaggerating then you arrange a leak based on it. >> it calls to question his credibility based on what he knew at the time, i would say another interesting aspect to the story, since you brough

devin nunes is a witness here. the idea he's sitting as a fact finder and has a vote in impeachment, that is astonishing. he could be recused from this and called to testify to find out what on earth he's talking with rudy giuliani and devin nunes. >> ari, you worked in the congress. are you as stunned as i am at the speed, the quality, the length, the detail of this report? >> it's really striking, lawrence. the mueller report was years in the making with professional prosecutors, investigators and a lot of people forced to sing because they were on their way to jail. they had fewer legal weapons here, and they've come up with something that is very substantial. in some ways the mueller report had more depth and legal rigor. it certainly had a constitutional section that was detailed. but i would put this on par with the fact finding section and particularly in regard to the election conspiracy. adam schiff and his team not only say they've found one, they've laid out the evidence from the call notes to an attempt

especially when it comes to congressman devin nunes. he was killing them during the proceedings, very raichous, they have is all bunk, this former ambassador, nobody was out tho get anybody, theirs no could ball, a foot. he had to know this. >> the allegations are great. him it is i think deeply concerning that at a time when the prz of the to dig up dirt on a political rival, that there may be evidence that they were members of congress complicit in that activity. >> okay. democratic congresswoman jackie spear has called for the republican congressman to be investigated. she joins me now. so happy to have you tonight. >> thank you, chris. >> joel: all of these questions are actually really. i don't know the answer to any of them tonight first of all, these phone logs, why didn't you ask about them did the testimony. i don't understand because they're so useful. >> because the persons that were in the phone logs weren't being viewed act finding that we were doi doing. what's interesting about this, i mean, you can't make this kind of st

nunes, also in touch with these players. so we're trying to identify the full scope of of those who were complicit in what the president was doing. and these records give a window of the site into exactly that. >> did the republican members of the committee know that you-these telephone records while, for example, hearings were going on? >> yes. in fact the republican members were made aware of subpoenas we were sending out. republican members were given the same phone records and other records we received. and so they've had this evidence as well. what they've chosen to do with it, whether they've chosen to look the to it, ignore it, i cant say but they were privy to the information as well. >> as we were watching devin nunes in the hearings, he knew you obtained phone records that included him and they would inevitably be made public by your report. >> he had possession of the records. how much he look under to them, how much he discussed what they show wou showed with his staff, you'd have to ask him. but he's aware of hi

defender, devin nunes. the battle lines are as clear as they are astounding. >> it's not about making up a false memo based on a false premise. it's not even true. it's not even true. they have made up a memo that isn't even true. they are lying to the american people. >> what are you going to do about it? >> take the dossier out of it. i disagree with trey gowdy. they probably had enough to establish probable cause without it. >> martha: joining me as kash patel, special assistant to president trump and he offered much of that speed 24 memo in 2018 has a staffer for the intelligence committee. what's it like for you when you watch what the inspector general says about how the dossier was central and essential to these fisa applications and that the fisa applications were sort of made by a continually patched up dossier that was falling apart, like a leaky boat and they kept not mentioning the leaks as they kept pushing it along and you knew that all along. >> martha, we had a great team on chairman nunes'

on nunes' overseas investigation? >> i am not aware of that. >> mr. chairman, you've been falsely accused throughout the proceedings by the ranking member as being a quote/unquote fact witness. now, if this story is correct, the ranking member may have actually been projecting, and in fact, he may be the fact witness if he is working with indicted individuals around our investigation. >> that was eric swalwell during the last round of hearings. and joining us now is, in fact, democratic member of congress from california, eric swalwell, who just happens to be among the lucky few with an appointment to both the intel and judiciary committee, meaning he will be part of the democratic panel presiding over today. so, congressman, let's talk about this moment. now that the report is out, tell us what the american people need to know about your fellow member of congress, devin nunes. >> he's not an investigator. it looks like he was in on it. >> expand on that. what do you mean he was in on it? >> well, he had an opportunit

and the contact with devin nunes and lev parnas. devin nunes is the ranking member of intelligence who was involved in running the republican response during these hearings, and in these phone records it raises questions whether he was involved with the thing that's being investigating. >> the hypocrisy of devin nunes sitting there in the last few weeks about the righteous dander about everything that's happening. turns out he's a potential fact witness. he's on the phone with players at key moments and the fact he never said anything? i'm not sure why adam schiff and his committee never said anything. maybe it was to save face or hit harder when it did come out. >> points for righteous dander, phrases not used enough. but i don't think his problem is hypocrisy. i think it's a failure to disclosure of involvement. john solomon, the former reporter for "the hill" we know was being created to be used for evidence on why the investigation may be so necessary. there may be something dirty there. "the hill" says they're going to take a l

there will be lots of questions between devin nunes. he declined to answer any questions. >> thanks very much in this report. i know you've been going through it in detail. 300 plus pages has a lot of information in there. thank you very, very much. let's go to capitol hill where the impeachment report is up for a vote any moment now. what happens after this vote? >> reporter: members of the intelligence committee are in the room right now. they have started the meeting where they will under all the circumstances matly vote to transmit this report to the house judiciary committee. tomorrow chairman nadler will open the hearing with four constitutional law experts. >> hold on for one moment. hold on for one moment. house republican leadership are speaking right now. i want to hear what they are saying. >> now for several weeks since the impeachment process began. i would ask people to remember that they have failed despite the fact they had a process that basically put everything tilted in their direction. democrats were able to act as j

our colleagues on the hill caught up with devin nunes earlier today and he refused to comment on this report. other house republicans say they don't have concerns about who devin nunes was talking to and evidence of the sharp split tonight. >> want to go to denny heck. good to talk to you, sir. this is the first time you've spoken out since getting the 300-page report which you've passed on to the committee. what's your reaction of the 300 pages? >> i am very sad. this is the saddest week that i can remember. i'm saddened that we've come to this point and we feel compelled because of the president's behavior to have to pass this report, that he abused his power and he betrayed his oath of office and i'm equally if not more saddened by the fact that my friends across the aisle, many of whom i believe are good people near are abjectly

." ( as nunes ) "hello, lev? it's devin. look, we have to figure out a way to make sure nobody knows we've been talking. i'll call you a few more times to work out the details." ( laughter ) "forgot the garlic knots!" now, when nunes was asked about his calls with parnas last night on the fox news, he had an airtight defense: >> i don't really recall that name. i will go back and check my records, but it seems very unlikely that i would be taking calls from random people. >> stephen: right. ( laughter ) right. that's why no one's asking about random people, because i'm guessing is a random person calls you, you don't spend eight minutes talking to them. "oh, i'm sorry, you have the wrong number. but so long as i have you on the phone, do you want to talk for eight minutes? i have no friends because i'm devin nunes. hello? hello? hello? gladys, you can reconnect us, station to station." garlic knots. trump's been in london for the past few days for a gathering marking nato's 70th anniversary. like on most annivers

to know about your fellow member of congress, devin nunes. >> he's not an investigator. it looks like he was in on it. >> expand on that. what do you mean he was in on it? >> well, he had an opportunity for a couple weeks before the american people, as we examine the evidence, to be serious, and you know, really drive to the heart of this case. and instead, he spent most of his time going after chairman schiff and making false accusations against chairman schiff. and now it looks like he was the fact witness. he was asking chairman schiff, you know, to recuse himself, when all along, he had phone calls with an indicted ukrainian american. he was talking to rudy giuliani at the time that ambassador yovanovitch was being smeared and then cleared of her duties. and there was no effort to find the truth. this was just more efforts by devin nunes to protect the president. >> should he in your view pull himself out of all future business on intel going forward until this is resolved? >> you know, brian, he's so

corruption case, we'd be opening a case on devin nunes. >> frank, stand by for us. garrett, i appreciate your note about trying to get devin nunes to talk to us. we hope you're successful in that effort. we'll let you go and see if you can find anyone. let me bring into the conversation by phone john brennan, former director of the cia and lucky for us now an nbc news senior national security analyst. let me read you from the report. i'm sure it is a pattern of behavior that is all-too familiar to you. the house intel committee report says this, in making the decision to move forward, we were struck by the fact that the president's misconduct was not an isolated occurrence, nor the product of a naive president. instead the efforts to involve ukraine in our 2020 presidential election were undertaken by a president who himself was elected in 2016 with the benefit of an unprecedented and sweeping campaign of election interference. undertaken by russia in his favor and which the president

on the house intelligence committee, devin nunes. >> if there were members of congress that were also part of that domestic political errand for the president and using tax resources to accomplish it, that's a problem. >> nunes stopping short of denying he spoke with parnas. >> i'll go back and check on my records, but it seems very unlikely i would be taking calls from random people. >> the report also alleging top members of the trump administration, including vice president mike pence, secretary of state mike pompeo, former energy secretary rick perry, and acting chief of staff mick mulvaney were active participants in the trump campaign, the white house dismissing the impeachment report's finding and, again, attacking the process, and trump's allies agree. >> they're having one big problem, a tnds big problem is the president did nothing wrong, and they can't prove it. >> meanwhile house judiciary democrats calling on the republican colleagues to take this morning's session

republican on the house intelligence committee devin nunes. >> if there were members of congress that were also part of that domestic political errand for the president and using taxpayer resources to accomplish it, that's a problem. >> reporter: nunes stopping short of denying he spoke with parnas. >> i'll go back and check all my records, but it seems very unlikely that i would be taking calls from random people. >> reporter: the report also alleging top members of the trump administration including mike pence, mike pompeo, rick perry, and mick mulvaney were knowledgeable of or active participants in trump's treasure campaign. the white house dismissing the impeachment report's finding and again attacking the process. and trump's allies agree. >> they're having one big problem. the problem is the president did nothing wrong and they can't prove it. >> reporter: meanwhile, house judiciary democrats calling on their republican colleagues to

we don't know whether nunes actually went to vienna... is what i've been told to say by cbs' lawyers. ( laughter ) because when nunes finally did comment, he threatened to sue the journalists involved, lying "these demonstrably false and scandalous stories published by 'the daily beast' and cnn are the perfect example of defamation and reckless disregard for the truth." "and i ought to know, because i'm the lebron james of recklessly disregarding the truth. in fact, i am lebron james." ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: i believe that completely! >> stephen: yeah. so, to prove the story is false, nunes went on with maria bartiromo and almost answered a question: >> bottom line, were you in vienna with shokin? >> yeah, so, look, maria, i really want to answer all these questions, and i promise you, i will come back on the show and answer these questions. >> stephen: methinks he doth not protesteth enough. ( laughter ) it's a simple question, d-noons, "did you go to vienna or not?" not answering does not make you look innocent. it's like a hus

you had devin nunes actually criticizing adam schiff because he said he knew the whistleblower, he had met with the whistleblower, all of which was false. and yet it appears that devin nunes was in conversations with lev parnas who is now an indicted individual because he gave foreign money to president trump's political action

nunes among them. john kennedy, senator john kennedy seemed to advance this idea and had to pull back and something that the president also believes, too, and they feel like if this is true, this idea that ukraine was the one who actually meddled, then the president had every right to go to ukraine and say, where is this server? of course, it's all based on a lie, a conspiracy. >> and in fact, reporting this later in the show also, but the senate intelligence committee as i reported yesterday. >> exactly. right. >> looked into the ukraine allegations, interviewed former dnc advocate or consultant alexander chalupa and also interviewed sean henry. crowdstrike on october 5, 2017 and henry would not comment, he is, you know, crowdstrike like you heard adam schiff say, shorthand for this conspiracy theory. the senate intelligence committee led by a republican interviewed. >> nunes over and over again, mentioning chalupa. almost at every turn. >> keep hearing from republicans in the senate. senator burr cha

and the notion that nunes is going huh, what, me? i didn't talk to him eight or nine times. >> so how is he leading these hearings? how is it possible that -- >> because trump wants him there, that is why. and trump is in charge of the republican party. the only person who is out there that every once in a while -- >> does it trigger a conflict of interest? >> it should. >> i mean if he was on the level, which he is not, he would have recused himself. >> they forcibly recused himself on part of this, remember, he had to step aside because he ran up there to the white house and gave classified information and all that. >> but you know from your past as a prosecutor, a phone log like this is literally an electronic finger print. it gives you an idea of the case that you are building, a case of where to go in terms of the prosecution. jonathan and i were talking about this earlier. the phone logs themselves, i've made a couple calls, i've not been able to get an answer, maybe you have, how long has the committee had those phone logs and

devin nunes has the right to talk to anybody. they accused devin nunes of going to a country he was not at and as the job of being on the intel committee, he has to travel. adam schiff would know exactly where devon was traveling at that time. to perpetuate a lie is nothing new to adam schiff. perpetuate a lie because he only wants to impeach they have president is something we have come to expect from him. >> he discussed what happened on -- should he discuss what happened on those phone calls? mr. mccarthy: that's a question for devin but he has a right to talk to people. there's nothing wrong that devin has done except once again get accused of something. it is a simple smoke screen. i wish you'd ask the same question, what did adam schiff say to the whistle blow her why did the whistleblower come to adam schiff before he had an attorney? why did adam schiff go to the american public and start this nightmare over the idea that the administration would withhold the whistleblower from coming before the committee and he would fig

up next, republican devin nunes, the debate is this, is devin nunes right to say adam schiff cannot be trusted with congressional oversight duties. here is the debate, adam schiff claiming he was quote, unaware of fbi abuses of fisa court when adam schiff who last year led the charge in attacking devin nunes when devin nunes spelled out the problem in his memos, the same problem that the doj watchdog found. that debate coming up. tment opportunities firsthand. like a biotech firm that engineers a patient's own cells to fight cancer. this is strategic investing. because your investments deserve the full story. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. (loud fan noise) (children playing) ♪ (music building) experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list sales event. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. male anchor: ...an update on the cat who captured our hearts. female anchor: how often should you clean your fridge? stay tuned to find out. male anchor: beats the odds at the box office to become a ra

>> and garrett, there is another rogue operator perhaps, devin nunes. let's watch adam schiff on his role. he shows up in these call logs as well. >> in terms of the ranking member, it won't surprise you i'll reserve comment. it is i think deeply concerning that at a time when the president of the united states was using the power of his office to dig up dirt on a political rival, that there may be evidence that there were members of congress complicit in that activity. >> garrett, what is devin nunes doing in these call logs? >> that is going to be an interesting question to try to find out. we see in the call logs in a nunes takes calls from rudy giuliani going back as far as april, he takes a longer phone call from left are pv parnas. and nunes has not talked about any of this, he is programs the single unfriendliest member of congress when it comes to nonfox news reporters on capitol hill. i don't think that he has taken a question from me since i've been up here. but we'll keep trying. he also has a frosty would be an understatement relationship wi

you've been accused of a lot of things lately, representative nunes. these phone calls, trips to vienna that you say you can substantiate that you were not there -- what is your reaction? what is her response to greg matthews and what he said about you? >> i'm a little disappointed because just a few months ago, i saw chris matthews in the long white building, it was late at night, i think it was there for some kind of meeting or reception, and he couldn't get out. he was blocked out and i helped walk them out and got him to the door and i'm a little disappointed that he thinks the lowly inebriated look, for three years, i've been slowly unraveling what the democrats in the left and most of the people in the media have started with the russia hoax and they moved to the ukraine hoax and that we have been very effective ads touting them on things like they are the ones that paid for the dossier that ended up in the hands of the fbi. we will find more about that next week. >> martha: we are going to talk about more of that coming up but i just want to sti

what is it like to sit next to devin nunes? what is the tone and tenor like on the committee between you and the ranking member? >> well, first of all, i would not conc that the republicans are convinced of the preside innocence.th republicans really just don't want to look at the evidence. they don't want to defend the president. most the time they don't tryo defend the president. most of the time they don't try to contest the evidence of the preside's guilt. rather what they're doing is trying to deflect attention away from the president's guilt and, frankly, deflt attention away from their own unwillingness to do their constitutional duty, and they do that by doing what the president does, which is simply attacking other people, and that's what oftennk g member nunes does. but he's not alone in that. in terms of my own relionship, working relationship, i will tell you an is a good-news/bad-news of the situation -- sbad news is our differen on the president's misconduct are on ample display. the good news is that the remainde

giuliani, devin nuÑes, reporter john solomon. the media is treating this as a victory when it is a disgraceful breach of ethical and legal propriety. >> yeah. so state law -- so i'm a californian. for sure, state law you cannot release somebody's phone records. so, for sure, that right has been violated. so we're going to -- but we with also have to look at the constitutional aspects of this and do all the members of congress have a right to privacy, and just one member, because he doesn't like someone and he's a political opponent of someone, can that member just subpoena records and then release to embarrass or to create a distraction or to build whatever fantasyland narrative that they continue to build. because, remember, these guys jumped from one phony narrative to another. okay? i mean, what this finally ended up with was that supposedly me and my staff were trying to get an ambassador fired. now, i'll tell you somethiing if i wanted an ambassador fired, i'd pick up the phone and i'd call the president. and i'm quite sure

. >> and new revelations that devin nunes was making calls to rudy giuliani and one of giuliani's indicted associates during critical moments in the ukraine scandal. >> and the democratic presidential field is a bit smaller this morning. senator kamala harris has dropped out of the race. >>> good morning, everybody. it is wednesday, december 4. and we have a lot to get to this morning. but first, president trump will spendrs a second day meeting wi world leaders at the nato summit in london. as menno. president trump and other leaders begantr arriving a shor time ago and are expected to gather for the annual family photo. yesterday, tensions were on full display when president trump and french president emmanuel macron both laid out dueling visions for the future of the alliance. president trump found himself in an unusual position, actually defending nato. meanwhile, president trump is scheduledru to hold a bilateral meeting with german president angela merkel. joining us now from london nbc news correspondent carroll lee. good to see you this morning. thanks for joining us. what were the

nunes claims he doesn't remember. is he at risk that lev will remember and will eventually come out with it? >> oh, it's more than just a risk. it's a reality. i mean, lev parnas has said he's prepared to testify as to his conversations. and so, it takes a lot of chutzpah, as they say, for devin nunes to say things that really sound disingenuous. you know, if you took the two clips you played, joy, and you played them at fbi academy quantico to a class that's studying veracity and truth-telling, i would tell you that all of the bells and whistles would go off, because devin nunes is saying everything from, i haven't checked my records yet, i'd like to know what i said. i get calls from a lot of people. i haven't confirmed that i spoke with him. he said everything but, nope, it didn't happen. >> yeah. >> and to me, that says it absolutely happened. and the problem with that is, for him, is if you're investigating this, you have gold. you have two things that i consider to be investigative gold. you've got phone records

nunes' secret call log. did he know this was about to hit him today? we'll get into all of that. >>> plus, way more details on giuliani's role in the alleged conspiracy. including new intrigue about, quote, minus one phone number. is it donald trump and how adam schiff has laid out a blueprint that will drive the very first judiciary impeachment hearing tomorrow. i'm ari melber. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. i melber don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. there are ordinary eggs... and the best. which egg tastes more farm-fresh and delicious? only eggland's best. with more vitamins d and e and 25% less saturated fat? only eggland's best. better taste, better nutrition, better eggs. (dad) on(daughter)r on a hobirdie!...? (dad) that's what i'm talkin' about. and a score of two under par is...? (daughter) big birdie! (dad) no, it's not that, it's uh... (rickie) turkey vulture! (dad) rickie fowler, i'm sorry, what...? (rickie) turkey vulture. (dad) oh! thats a turkey-oh! all right, lets go. i'll follow you. go, go, go- go! (burke) otherwise know

liz: let's move on to what adam schiff has characterized, he is basically, devin nunes is threatening legal action, he could have a case that adam schiff contravene in the supreme court case in the wall street journal reporting on this, here is adam schiff to talking about this situation. >> i think it's deeply concerning the added time when the president of the united states was using the power of his office to dig up dirt on political arrival that there may be evidence that members of congress complicit in the activity. liz: complicit and what, there are only phone logs, they don't know what's inside the content of the phone and he's talking about digging up dirt on rivals when he's digging up phone records on his rivals. >> correct. it's why i think it was a real abuse of power for him to get into ranking member nunes is records and you are right, the call records don't show anything nefarious. by the way as someone who has tried complicated cases in federal court, chairman schiff would know that. >> how does the shakeout, where do you see this going? >> we will continue to see the

what is it like to sit next to devin nunes? what is the tone and tenor like on the committee between you and the ranking member? e well, first of all, i would not concur that publicans are convinced of the preside innocence. the republicans really just don't want to look at the evidence. they don't want defend the president. most the time they don't try to defend the president. most of the time thet try to contest the evidence of the president's guilt. rather what they're doing is trying to deflect attention away from the president's guilt and, frankly,io deflect atteaway from their own unwillingness to do their constitutional duty, and they do that by doing what the president does, which is simply attacking other people, and that's what often ranking member nunes does. but he's not alo in that. in terms of my own relationship, working relationshipth r. nunes, i will tell you and this is a good-news/bad-news of the situation -- i bad neour differences on the president's mconduct are on ample display. the good news is that the r

devin nunes, the freedom caucus and we have been telling you on this show. for example, fbi, doj did not abuse the fisa process can omit material information or to spy on the trump campaign. horowitz found the exact opposite. and we have identified at least 17 significant errors or omissions on the fisa applications in many additional errors and the procedures. allow your! and it gets more embarrassing for the congenital liar schiff. he actually wrote the doj may "only narrow use of information from steele sources about pages specific activity in 2016" and didn't rely on salacious allegations. again, the exact opposite is true. from horowitz report and i quote "we conclude a crossfire hurricane team's receipt of steele's election report 2019-2016 an essential role in the decision by the fbi to support the fisa surveillance targeting carter page and ultimate decision to seek the fisa order. schiff also wrote "the court approves surveillance of page from allowed fbi to collect notable intelligence. horowitz lays out on page 476, mr. congenital liar, the fbi wa

devin nunes warned us in 2014 that they would. politico tells us in a court decision, they interfered and we need to get to the bottom of that. we don't want to lose the powerful tools of intelligence but if it will be at the risk of those powerful tools, and you lose the constitution and in all sense of equal justice under the law. >> well, you also have to remember the fourth amendment. we have to follow the fourth amendment. the constitution is not a suicide pact in the constitution doesn'tt require us to turn a blind eye to our foreign adversaries. quite to the contrary. we can do those things but we have to do so within the bounds set by the constitution. we need to require people to go to court and presented judge with the statement of probable cause. and not just probable cause of the existence of some tied to a national investigation, but where american citizen is involved, certainly where u.s. presidential campaign is involved or the rights of any american citizen is involved. they need to have probable cause as to that p