in detroit, people are always apologizing for detroit. it was found that to be a detriment to the city. always thought as chicago, there are very powerful city. that is finally changing. and very glad of that because i really thought over my course of living here, it's really hard the city a lot. a lack of civic pride. david: i think the keywords, i really feel that. i felt that this week over the last six months and years stronger than ever before. ... ... [applause] thank you everyone for today, very some insightful commented it's great to have these gentlemen with us and great to have all of you. books will be on the first floor outside of the gift shop, you can purchase a book there and a whole bunch of other things and i know david will be happy to personalize that for you. thanks again. [applause] >> thank you, it was great. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> that wrapped up a look at programs from archives, you can watch any of these programs or any of his other appearances on book tv or c-span by going to our a

detroit stood with us. we did know that many of the protesters were not detroiters. they lived either in the metro detroit area in some instances outside of the state -- gerry: can i just is ask you, who were they? we've heard a lot about antifa, others. was it organized political agitation? >> you know, i think that's still being investigated by our federal partners. the way we viewed it, all of that could be true. but the way our focus, we just simply said they're criminals. but it was clearly coordinated. and not just -- if you look at what was happening in detroit and why we didn't have the level of destruction and violence, there were some similarities across the country. and so we were, you know, closely watching what was happening say in los angeles, cities like chicago that saw significant disruption and violence to see what we could see. but i tell you, i think what's very different, most of our protesters were outside. but more than that, detroiters were appalled. the outsiders were coming into our city, and some woulding you know, make efforts to create vi

several years in detroit. now a -- pursuing ph.ds at the university of southern california, one in santa cruz and one in santa barbara. so they were charming young mean and we were in our dining room talking to them. >> the book spans from 1913 to the present of detroit. >> what i had did you learn about detroit from the book? >> what did we learn? i guess -- >> you're both natives, correct? >> yes. duke university published the book and i guess in looking into things coming up, we found it, and it was due to come out on may day and we thought it would be very interesting as a may day book to come out because they do talk about the workers and the history of workers of detroit as well as workers of the world. >> now, alyson jones-turner if you could lean in just a little bit so we can see all of you. >> company, sorry. >> not a problem. what has it been like talking with the publishers and the booksellers association? have they been helpful during this period? >> they've been helple. the publishers have really

steve: you cover a lot of trade issues for the "the detroit free press." who has the upper hand on that topic? scott: that will remain to be seen because president trump has made such an issue of trade in the last election, and nafta -- the rewrite of nafta, for instance, means a lot in michigan where autoworkers rightly or wrongly feel nafta sent a town of jobs to mexico, -- sent a ton of jobs to mexico, and they never brought them back. that is what really caused the auto industry jobs for years, which there is evidence on both sides of that. biden, though, has supported trade deals and certainly supported trade deals as vice president under barack obama, had a particular kind of demeanor and rapport with working-class voters who do not see him as quite such a globalist as maybe other democrats. there is a working-class feel to him that puts him more in line to take that fight to trump in a way different than secretary clinton. but you raise a very, very good point. i would expect trump to bash biden over the head with trade, and do it repeatedly. that w

>> i don't know. >> what circumstances will take to send troops into detroit? >> we have to wait and see. >> are there some general answers are criteria that you can tell us that you will examine? >> just how unusual is the use of -- >> thank you very much. >> he will comment later when he has more to say. mayor, governor. >> i think it is premature to predict at this time but the night will bring, but we hope that peace and security will be restored here and things can get back to normal as rapidly as possible. >> federal troops will be kept in the city tonight -- >> they will. >> they will. >> get out of the way. get out of the way. >> i was in my grandmother's house in the projects, and i was coming down the sidewalk going to the next building, and there was just a burst the fire from the top of the building. i don't know which when it came from, but i know i was in the leg. one of my buddies got hit with it from a ricochet, but it wasn't so bad. >> what was your first reaction? >> well, after i was shot, i just fell right to the pavement because i don't kno

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host: todd spangler for "the detroit free press." give us a sense of the political landscape right now. todd: the political landscape in michigan is not promising for president trump and his reelection efforts in michigan. right now it looks like the state he was able to flip in 2016, michigan is the furthest out of reach. it has looked that way all along, but it is far more seen in the polling now. the most recent poll we have seen from our pollster shows a 12 point lead for biden in the wake of the pandemic. there was a hot spot in michigan for a while. a lot of partisan feelings. then having the military come into deal with protests, and some of the tweets president trump has done fighting with governor whitmer, who was well liked michigan according to polls. at this point, things look pretty bad for him. that does not mean he could not make it back up, but comparing michigan with wisconsin and pennsylvania, other states he won closely, michigan is looking better for biden. host: let's go back to 2016, many said michigan was a blu

why come to detroit? i mean, i have -- i can speculate, but certainly those are the ones that are really triggering. but here's the magic that's going on in detroit right now, brian. the fact that the african-american community stands with this police department, stands with this police chief, and several days ago, they said in a resounding way, go home. we don't need you here. you're not going to burn our city. and i remember as a young man growing up here in detroit in 1967, i was a boy, and i remember the riot. and i remember what it was like. and i remember the racism and the beatings. and i said then i would never be a police officer. so now here i sit many years later and so excited to be back home and certainly leading one of the finest police departments in america. >> anyone who has ever counted out detroit, michigan has lived to regret it. chief james craig of the detroit police department, we greatly appreciate the time you spent with us tonight. thank you very much. stay safe to you, your men

why come to detroit? i mean i have -- i can speculate, but certainly those are the ones that are really triggering. but here is the magic that's going on in detroit right now, brian, the fact that the african-american community stands with this police department, stands with this police chief. several days ago they said in a resounding way, "go home, we don't need you here, you're not going to burn our city." i remember as a young man growing up here in detroit, in 1967, i was a boy, and i remember the riot. i remember what it was like. i remember the racism and the beatings, and i said then i would never be a police officer. so now here i sit many years later, so excited to be back home and certainly leading one of the finest police departments in america. >> anyone who has ever counted out detroit, michigan, has lived to regret it. chief james craig of the detroit police department, we greatly appreciate the time you spent with us tonight. thank you very much. stay safe to you, your men and women. >> th

host: you cover a lot of trade issues for the "the detroit free press." who has the upper hand on that topic? todd: that will remain to be seen because president trump has made such an issue of trade in and naftalection, meant a lot in michigan where autoworkers rightly or wrongly a town of jobs to mexico, and they never brought them back. that is what really caused the auto industry jobs for years, which is evident on both sides of that. has supported ,rade deals under barack obama had a particular kind of demeanor and rapport with working-class voters who do not see him as quite such a globalist as maybe other democrats. there is a working-class field to him that puts him more in trumpo take that fight to in a way different than secretary clinton. it is a very good point, i would expect trump to bash biden over the head with trade, and do it repeatedly. benefit ifbe to his the other stuff that is not to his benefit, the bellicose tweets and attacks that went too -- that is the balance here. the president might have a winning argument with biden on trade

why come to detroit? i mean i have -- i can speculate, but certainly those are the ones that are really triggering. but here's the magic that's going on in detroit right now, brian. the fact that the african-american community stands with this police department, stands with this police chief, and several days ago, they said in a resounding way, go home. we don't need you here. you're not going to burn our city. and i remember as a young man growing up here in detroit in the 1967, i was a boy, and i remember the riot. and i remember what it was like. and i remember the racism and the beatings. and i said then i would never be a police officer. so now here i sit many years later, so excited to be back home and certainly leading one of the finest police departments in america. >> anyone who has ever counted out detroit, michigan, has lived to regret it. chief james craig of the detroit police department, we greatly appreciate the time you spent with us tonight. thank you very much. stay safe to you, your men

the mayor of detroit joins us now. you and your police chief are meeting with protest organizers today. is the plan for you about listening or are you there to present solutions? >> well, we've been meeting with various communities and protesters all along. and there are a lot of groups in the city. those who have organized the marches the last few nights have come in, and we're going to listen and have a respectful conversation. the people who protest are the people who drive change and i'm looking forward to the meeting. >> i'm sorry. i'm having a tough time hearing you. you have said that people there are telling you they want more police, not less. can you move money out of police budgets into community programs without making your city less safe? >> we haven't talked about moving money out. in fact, i think the people of this city have not -- we have not had any looting, we have not had any fires. we've not called in the national guard because the relationship of the people of detroit and the detroit police depart

so many outsiders who have come to detroit to protest and detroit doesn't like it. they've stood with us, stood by our side. many times they walked with these protesters and most of them are peaceful, but certainly we've had the agitators, as i call them, the professional outside agitators, that have really created a problem. and there's a different feel right now for the last two days. >> shannon: i'm glad to hear that. one of those reports there says detroit police officers are working closely with the fbi to identify and track outsiders who are coming to the city and trying to turn protests into chaos. police have arrested people coming into the scene from washington, d.c., nashville, and ohio. can you tell us anything more about your coordination with the feds to track these outside groups to >> well, i've been having conversations with the supervisory agent in charge and we've had great conversations and, you know what, we know. we've seen that there's a coordinated effort among these outsiders. i'm talking about specifically to those who are agitating and real

you have seen a lot, you have seen a great deal of protest particularly in detroit but also some others in places where you would not normally expect to see quite as many people. it has been very -- over the last couple of months and that is really being felt in michigan. so far that is accruing politically the democrats benefit. in michigan being a state that typically is blue or in federal elections, statewide elections i say wisconsin or pennsylvania, it seems to be reverting back. we won't know till november and then there's plenty of time for the president to go back to michigan and to make some changes and maybe bring that town. but right now it seems like it is tough to make you mention the 12-point lead by joe biden we saw the poll commented that number surprise you? >> yes. any kind of 12-point lead at this.would shock me. the same poll in january headed about six points in michigan. of course, biden was in a really not good position january and he has since nailed down the nomination. one michigan in much the same day we had our first coronavirus case that the primary and he w

they trems doesly abusivive of black detroiters. they have a new chief doing a very hard job of trying to reform that department. he's there for a reason. ask wh when we talk about math, there have been studies recently that 10%, 10 to 15% of a given department is likely to be abusive and problematic. about 10 to 15% of a given department is likely to be courageous and willing to confront that pattern of abuse by one out of ten or one out of eight of their peers. in the middle a vast majority of the department that wants to go along to get along. doesn't want to rock the boat. that's the code of silence we're talking about. we have a problem institutionally in our departments across this country. now we've -- i was talking to two friends who were mayors the other day. one a large city, one a small city. the mayor from the small city said for six years his department has used personality tests to weed out officers who were likely to be abusive and that 75% of the applicants who met every other measure of fitness in the last six years

the good news about detroit today, and the people who live in detroit, let's face it, tucker, like all the cities, there's a lot of outsiders coming in and creating havoc. detroiters are different and we do minutes, they're not going to come to the city and carried out. were not going to tolerate it. so we support the chief, and we have relationships with them and if you go against him, you're going against us and we have that kind of mantra. i'm not saying that's the only thing, but the other thing is they're not credit to cover our police stations and trust me, there is things the first and second night they clearly could have gone bad very quickly. i've been watching what's going on over in l.a., certainly philadelphia, chicago, and we didn't want that. the first night, we had new police cars damaged, but no looting. detroiters have kind of policed the agitators, that's what they are. provocateurs. so, i'm confident we will be able to get through this but we are not there yet. >> tucker: it well, seems like you're doing the right thing. it chief, thank you for coming on tonight and

they were tremendously abusive of black detroiters for a long time. the police chief is doing the hard job of trying to reform that department. i would encourage you to look at the history of that department. i did my graduate work in criminology. 10%,es recently suggest 10% to 15% of a given department is likely to be abusive and problematic. you have 10% to 15% of a given department likely to be courageous and confront that pattern of abuse by one out of 10 or one out of eight of their peers. in the middle, the vast majority of the department wants to go along to get along and not rock the boat. that is the code of silence we talk about. we do have a problem institutionally in departments across the country. friends whog to two are mayors. one of a large city and one of a small city. the one in the small city said for six years his department use outonality tests to weed officers likely to be abusive. who 75% of the applicants met every other measure of fitness in the last six years failed the test. just a reminder we have a deep problem, and we nee

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detroit news editorial page editor. great thinker and sort of steps way back from the impassioned on both sides to say all right, this is the next thing we have to do and maybe do so calmly. not everyone is in that camp, no matter what extreme you're on. lauren simonetti following very very closely some of the ideas that are being bandied about here and they are fairly sweeping. lauren? lauren: hi, neil. well, seattle city council is the latest to talk about defunding police, redirecting money from the police department to other areas that could protect public safety and then seeing what that looks like as protesters in seattle block streets, set up tents. you're looking at what's going on. they even have an area they are calling the chazz, the capitol hill autonomous zone. here in washington, alexandria ocasio-cortez is calling to defund the police, arguing that money should be spent on school funding. listen. >> so the problem is not a lack of resources here. in fact, many folks here in our community say that the prob

that day, i promised myself that i would become a detroit police officer and change the detroit police force from the inside. he ended up running the force. but told our erin burnett earlier, the racism did not stop. >> i joined the detroit police department august 2nd, 1965. my first day as a detroit police officer, i walked into the squad room. and as they had roll call, i was the only person of color there, as they had roll call, and they announce might assignment with a white officer, they said i'm working with the -- and they said the "n" word. that was my indoctrination into the detroit police department. this man rode with me for eight hours and he didn't say a word and i didn't say a word. the man i worked with, his name is trey mitchell, that is the norm with me and other officers of color. >> i'm joined now by cheryl dorsey in los angeles. she's a retired los angeles police sergeant. she's also the author of "black and blue" we want to welcome you, mrs. dorsey. >> thank you for having me. >> these videos that we saw in the report, they're horrific to see, but they're there an

who is now filing a formal complaint against detroit p.d. after they arrested the wrong man wanted for robbery and shy. uplifting after using their facial recognition software the man robert williams an african-american had his face wrongfully matched to the store surveillance footage and is the 1st known case of mistaken identity for this type of technology though williams as case is being dropped without prejudice his story speaks to the failure rate of this software so joining us to weigh in investigative journalist and co-host of boom bust ben swan. we knew this was going to happen you and i we have discussed this for years on r t and now it has happened so summarize for us what happened to mr williams and what detroit p.d. plans on doing going forward. yes it's very interesting because just you're absolutely right you and i have talked about this for a long time and the false positives that come up through facial recognition technology but specifically in this case here's what happened so you had a store a retail store that was robbed a

the police chief of detroit, james craig, is with us. i'm so glad you're here and i'm so glad we saw that last night, because it is so markedly different from 100 arrests over the weekend and violence and some very questionable actions also toward police and from some police toward protestors. what changed last night? >> well, you know, this has been a work in progress. it didn't just start yesterday. we put tremendous value in relationships with community leaders, our local activists. we don't always agree, but what we do do is we have conversations, we talk, we meet halfway, and i got to tell you, i mean, last night was a great example. you've seen the images of the 16-year-old boy who talked to our mayor and the leadership this young man took, phenomenal. but more important and as important is just our community, our activists who are on the ground with the protests, and there was some agitation by some, but they were able to keep it calm. and the reason why they're so involved here is because they believe in the city, they believe in

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much higher than it is just a zip code away in detroit where it's only 50%. a reflection some say of deeply rooted systemic racism the numbers tell at least part of the story in detroit, median household income is about $30,000. the population is nearly 80% black. in grosse pointe, median income is just over $100,000 with a black population of 2% so is the digital divide in detroit a racial divide as well? >> absolutely. the haves are receiving more than the have nots we already know children are coming in at a disadvantage with fewer resources than middle class, upper middle class students but our public school system should be the equalizer in giving an opportunity for children but instead it exacerbates the divide that already exists >> reporter: detroit is getting a big boost with a $23 million gift from local businesses to give every student a laptop. but that won't happen until summer long after the school year ends. >> we can anticipate most students losing six months of where they would have been had we been in school. >> reporter: six months behind c

i saw my father going between pittsburgh and detroit, on that trip. it was very satisfying and i appreciate your inviting me to do it. what i would like to bring to the conversation about structural racism and link it to the covid-19 moment is the rule of law, not only to see the product of decades of structural inequality, the expectation of whiteness, privilege, property associated with that, policy efforts, well positioned projects like this, the role that the law has played in now distributing opportunities but also in repressing, the majority that sometimes come together to do something about this, and the biggest part of what we might be able to do stands in the way. one of the dominant frameworks that emerged in the post-racial moment is we are in a post-civil rights moment, all of these problems are the aftereffects of the agenda that is left over that need to be dealt with and as opposed to ongoing continuing dimensions, reinforced by federal policy and was explicitly so. you mention in your book the creation of suburbs through federal housin

lay off police officers in detroit? take 10%? fortunately then, minimal conversation here about de funding, it's flawed and it makes no sense. charles: right. chief craig, while you mentioned it's a knee jerk reaction i feel like there's been a plan in place, or deceiving of this anti-police rhetoric has gone on for more than a decade and whether its come from celebrities or politicians so it felt like the folks who have been behind that felt this was the moment to strike. now listen i grew up in harlem and we had a serious, we were in defacto battle in police with my neighborhood growing up but we were frustrated when they didn't get there in time so how do we figure out if this is a decades- old problem, the interactions, how do you go about forgetting about the de funding idea but going about some sort of change that can make the situation better for everyone? >> you know, i'll tell you, i'm fortunate here in detroit. we certainly value our community we talk to our community and i think that one piece makes the world of differ

the murder rate in detroit is higher -- and baltimore is higher than that of el salvador, guatemala, or afghanistan. but the left launches no protests over these travesties, they are travesties. because it does not serve their radical agenda. think of that. tougher than afghanistan. all run by democrats. movement is based on

bankruptcy did force detroit to really reduce a lot of the services. and we need to think about that. but i have also been very clear that for me defunding the police is not saying that we don't need police. i don't like that phrase. i think it is misleading and used by other people for political purposes paired we have a problem in this country that in many instances, black people are not treated equally to white. but our police officers have become social workers. they are called upon, i have been asked multiple times during covid to do wellness checks. i have asked them for help on domestic abuse cases. of their lives are threatened. we need to find a way that we change practices that we are protecting blacks, but that we are also supporting our law enforcement who are good people and getting rid of the bad apples. >> martha: do you think that we can take advantage of this moment and get republicans and democrats together? i'd chose to talk to tim scott and said there are at least three basic tenants that we all agree on on both sides. can the ameri

the reason why you have the like of unrest in cities chicago or baltimore -- i grew up in detroit -- is because the institutions that should be in place to support the ability for young people to aspire to their ♪

i was born in detroit in partially raised there but i was also raised in birmingham alabama down in the south of my own thinking marched in all of the civil rights movement that was like the heart of it is now then birmingham alabama was racism against black people it was more systematic they incorporated it in the system and i noticed that as a very young child in the school system i noticed that black children we were treated differently than the white children the white kids would act out and do whatever and they would just give a barely a reprimand but black kids who would do the same thing they would get funneled into special education classes they would get expelled i've always from that point wanted to know the ins and outs of systematic racism. this was like in the early seventy's when they started to take away the housing discrimination laws in made it bad you have to rent houses and brick property and it has to be equal legally there was a white flight and that took all the money and the wealth and resources out and it just left a shell of the city and the people who are impov

i was born in detroit and partially raised there but i was also raised in birmingham alabama down in the south among the king marched in all of the civil rights movement that was like the heart of it is now then birmingham alabama racism against black people it was more systematic they incorporated 'd it in the system and i noticed that as a very young child in the school system i noticed that black children we were treated differently than the white children the white kids would act out and do whatever and they would just get a barely a reprimand but black kids who would do the same thing they would get funneled into special education classes they would get expelled always from that point wanted to know the ins and outs of systematic racism. this was like in the early seventy's when they started to take away the housing discrimination laws in made it bad you have to rip houses and rip property and it has to be equal legally there was a white flight and that took all the money in the world and resources out and it just left the shell of the city and the people were impoverished and t

i was born in detroit in partially raised there but i was also raised in birmingham alabama down in the south a moment thinking marched in all of the civil rights movement that was like the heart of it is now then birmingham alabama it's racism against black people it was more systematic they incorporated it in the system and i noticed that as a very young child in the school system i noticed that black children we were treated differently than the white children the white kids would act out and do whatever and they would just give a barely a reprimand but black kids who would do the same thing they would get funneled into special education classes they would get expand this was like in the early seventy's when they started to take away the housing discrimination laws in made it bad you have to rent houses and brick property and it has to be equal legally there was a white flight and that took all the money in the world and the resources out and it just left the shell of the city and the people who are impoverished and they blame the poverty on the peoples blamed a lot of the ills of de

>>take a look at detroit take a look at what's happening in oakland. take a look at what's happening in baltimore, and it really gets upset when i say and they say oh is that a racist statement is not a racist. frankly. people come up to me say thank you, thank you sir for saying it. the city's it's like living in hel. >>president trump. he is on the attack again obviously not only against oakland, but chicago detroit baltimore during a fox news town hall. he said that violence and those democratic lead cities is worse than many central american countries. it's all in keeping with his law and order campaign theme. but oakland mayor libby shaft she is heading back kron four's dan kerman joins us live with that part of the story dan. >>well catherine let me chef says the only hell's another 4 years of the trump administration. she caught up with us today to talk about what he had to say. >>i would say oakland is looking a little bit like heaven today, oakland mayor libby shaft compared her city to heaven friday. well announcing the city had received a mi

much higher than it is just a zip code away in detroit where it's only 50%. a reflection some say of deeply rooted systemic racism. the numbers tell at least part of the story. in detroit, median household income is about $30,000. the population is nearly 80% black. in gross point? median income is just over $100,000 with the black population of 2%. >> joining me to discuss, jeffrey canada, chairman of an organization dedicated to increasing grammar, high school and college graduate rates among students in harlem. this pandemic has not only highlighted inequality, it's increased it. over the last couple of weeks we've heard many protesters call for police reform. lawmakers are working on police reform bills but when it comes to inequality, you've said to us over and over, education is the first place to start. >> it is the first place to start. and cynthia's story just broke my heart because i know this is happening all over this country. you see how smart and intelligent that young girl was. what chance does she and her siblings have with one device that the

i was born in detroit in a partially raised the a but i was also raised in birmingham alabama down in the south of mom to king martin all of the civil rights movement that was like the heart of it is now in birmingham alabama racism against black people it was more systematic they incorporated it in the system and i noticed that as a very young child in the school system i noticed that black children we were treated differently than the white children the white kids would act out and do whatever and they would just give a barely a reprimand but black kids who would do the same thing they would get funneled into special education classes they would get expelled i've always from that point wanted to know the ins and outs of systematic racism. this was like in the early seventy's when they started to take away the housing discrimination laws in made it bad you have to rip houses and brick property and it has to be equal legally there was a white flight and that took all the money in the world and the resources out and it just left the shell of the city and the people who are impoverished

during the detroit riots in 1967 governor. during the detroit riots in1967 and governor. during the detroit riots in 1967 and when he was secretary of hud during the nixon administration. he was a very wonderful, moderate republican and a man with a high ethics and when his son came on the scene i kept hoping he was getting beat like his father. maybe as time goes on he is becoming more like him. if so that's great. let me get to donald trump. you've referred to him already. and we all know it now, over the last couple of weeks has been tweeting like crazy. some of those tweets have stuck in peoples minds. the one i'm looking at right now is, any difficulty, he's talking about what happens in the street and we will assume control when the looting starts the shooting starts. he talked repeatedly about dominating the streets. he told governors if you don't dominate you are wasting your time. they are going to run over you. you are going to look likejerks. going to run over you. you are going to look like jerks. these the united states. do you believe that donald trump and h

meet detroit school principal jacqueline dungy. when her charter elementary school shut down in march, her babies, as she calls them, were suddenly gone. and she could not constantly keep an eye on their well-being. principal dungy and her staff tracked down all 127 students to make sure each one was doing okay. and she set up a food drive so they could get meals just like they did at school. eventually it got so big she served the entire neighborhood. the principal says her kids have the ability to change the world so she wants to give them every resource to do that and believes every child deserves a champion. i just want to point out, she is our champion and our hero today. and they may change the world tomorrow. she's doing it right now. good morning, mr. sun. good morning, blair. [ chuckles ] whoo. i'm gonna grow big and strong. yes, you are. i'm gonna get this place all clean. i'll give you a hand. and i'm gonna put lisa on crutches! wait, what? said she's gonna need crutches. she fell pretty hard. you might want to clean tha

>>take a look at detroit take a look at what's happening in oakland. take a look at what's happening in baltimore, and it really gets upset when i say and they say oh is that a racist statement is not a racist. frankly. people come up to me say thank you, thank you sir for saying it. the city's it's like living in hel. >>president trump obviously on the attack again not only against oakland, but he mentioned chicago and detroit and baltimore. during a fox news town hall. he said violence and those democratic lead cities is worse than many central american countries. it's all in keeping with his law and order campaign fame. but oakland's mayor libby shaft she's heading back kron four's dan kerman joins us live and he has that part of the story dan. >>well catherine is you know libby shaft is not one to back down from many people including the president she's taken him on before and has done so again. >>i would say oakland is looking a little bit like heaven today, oakland mayor libby shaft compared her city to heaven friday while announcing the city had

i love detroit and love coming to detroit to go to games. 60-game season. you get training camp july 1st. the teams will determine if fans will be allowed at some point. i would love to come to tiger stadium. i would love to spend time at fenway park this summer. do you do you think that's going to be possible? >> that's up to the state officials. you know, it's going to depend on each individual individual state. that's what i've heard. but you know, we're excited -- if we can get fans there, we're excited to get fans back. more importantly, we're excited to deliver the game. that's what we're excited about. you know, it's not our game, it's the fans' game. baseball's been -- it transcends generations. passed down. so we're excited for it. whether it's with fans or without fans, you know, we play for the fans. hopefully it will be in person instead of on tv for most of the year. we've got to be smart as a society, as a nation in the process of that. we'll be patient. and let that happen when it's supposed to. >> how are you preparing for that challenge, of

now, we're talking about detroit. i can't, you know, i was in l.a. for many years pep and i know that mayor made a conscience decision to move fund around and i saw an interesting video with lapd officers and a counsel woman. these officers making this city safe and when you look at buy and large how police officers across this country have handled protest, just phenomenal. it has been a difficult ought days for many but i am. i have to tell you jon i'm so proud of the men and women of this police department. >> well and with good reason. i mean, your department has handled things very well or so it would seem from, you know, the way things have gone there in detroit. you couldn't pay me enough to be a police officer especially when you see some of the abuse that is hurled at the officers. projectiles, hurled at officers all, you know, spitting that kind of thing. and yet people are talking about defunding police. doesn't that just mean -- you know,less money, less money available to pay officers doesn't that mean you're going to get worse kinds of o

[ hearing concluded ] >>>ton on american history tv, starting at 8:00 eastern, on july 23rd, 1967, detroit erupted in five days of rioting and violence sparked by a police raid on an illegal bar. and fueled by long simmering racial tensions. wxyz tv and abc affiliate in the city was there to record the events as they unfolded. this half hour documentary is courtesy of the archives of michigan. watch american history tv tonight and over the weekend on c-span3. >>> as we continue our battleground series of the interviews part of c-span campaign 2020 our focus, florida and joining us from miami is marc caputo who covers political for politico.com. give us the landscape in the state right now. >> there is a few you have to consider. one is the broader victim. coronavirus and protests. both are gripping the state. especially coronavirus. now this is president trump's home adopted state as newly adopted state but that doesn't seem to make much of a different in the polls. he currently, when you look at the surveys is losing badly. i think the average showed almost eight points. it is an astonish

it's a deadly force option, but again, in detroit it's abolished. given that the issues across america right now i think is critically important that we listen and certainly come to the table with our communities because there's different concerns that are out there, but i don't think i ever said it was a bad idea, but in a deadly encounter -- >> yeah, i was reading a previous interview, look, if it's a deadly encounter i will never tell my officer, you need to use whatever is necessary. what about you, chief axle, when it comes to change in new york overnight, the fact that the nypd is disbanding the 600 person plains clothes anti-crime unit. you talked about crisis intervention training for all of the officers in st. paul, social workers embedded with your team and mental health is part of what the president will sign into the executive order. is this move by the nypd something that will help? >> you know, it's very important wherever you are, police chiefs and community members, working together, talking about what are the community expectations

they aren't welcome in detroit. it was really touching yesterday the number of community members came out and one voice police in the community standing together in unison saying go home. we don't want you here, and so that gives you an idea when you look at what's been going on in the last three days in detroit thank god we haven't had the type of destruction of property, the violence directed at our police officers. we did have one of our command officers injured by a hurling boulder, but other than that, we've been able to manage for some many reasons. i've got to say this and i think it's important to say in addition to the relationship with our community and certainly the stellar efforts by the men and women of the detroit police department, the mayor and i are on the same page. we talk often, he trusts my professional judgment, and we execute. and that's so important. i've had a chance to work another city and that's not always been the case, but not so in detroit. brian: right. so chief i'm wondering how you