other apps they reviewed asked only for location. >> the data you give to an app should relate to what you're getting out of the app. >> reporter: researchers also found connections with third party marketers were not always clearly spelled out. north dakota's app was the first called out for its relationship with 4 square, a marketing company. it now discloses that it uses four square to determine nearby businesses you may have visited. the apps developer tells us four square has agreed not to retain data. this privacy attorney says agreements are not a guarantee. >> you think the app that's supposed to keep you safe from a virus is going to sell you shoes the next day from the shoe store you walked by on your afternoon jog, you're not going to want to use it. >> reporter: matthew with the electronic frontier foundation says there's also a security risk. >> whenever you have a company that's storing sensitive information, that storage, that data is going to have a huge target on it. >> reporter: researchers with a digital accountability council found some apps, including the cdc's app

>> we have 60 apps on the app store. they go through the same rules that the 1.7 million do. >> okay. here is why i asked the question. my understanding is the app store review guidelines tell app developers not to submit copycat apps. is that correct? >> i'm not totally familiar, but i believe that's the case because we were getting a number of apps that were essentially the same thing. a sort of cookie cutter. >> i could represent to you that we've reviewed the guidelines and they say that app developers should have original ideas, that copycat ideas are not fair and that apples customers do not want those. on the other hand, the app developer agreement which you require every developer to agree to does give apple the right to coffee other apps. the question is why one rule for the developers they compete with you and the opposite rule for apple? >> congressman, i'm not familiar with that. i can follow up with your office on it. >> i would appreciate if you could follow up with our office. my understanding is that the

app developers, and the app store is said to also discriminate between app developers with similar apps. on the apple platform and also as to smaller app developers versus large app developers. so, mr cook, does apple not treat all app developers equally? sir, we treat every developer the same. we have open and transparent rules. it is a rigorous process. because we care so deeply about privacy and security and quality, we do look at every app before it goes on, but those rules apply evenly to everyone, and as you can tell by going from... some developers are favoured over others, though, isn't that correct? that is not correct. and as you can tell from going... i'll give you an example. baidu has de smidt app store and please play to help it navigate the app store bureaucracy, i5 navigate the app store bureaucracy, is that true? i don't know about that, sir. well, you don't have other app developers who have that same access to apple personnel, do you? we do a lot of things with developers, including looking at their data test apps regardless of whether they are small or large. let me

other apps they reviewed asked only for location. >> the data you give to an app should relate to what you're getting out of the app. >> reporter: researchers also found connections with third party marketers were not always clearly spelled out. north dakota's app was the first called out for its relationship with 4 square, a marketing company. it now discloses that it uses four square to determine nearby businesses you may have visited. the apps developer tells us four square has agreed not to retain data. this privacy attorney says agreements are not a guarantee. >> you think the app that's supposed to keep you safe from a virus is going to sell you shoes the next day from the shoe store you walked by on your go want to use repoer: mat electronfrsays ere's a security risk. >> whenever you have a company that's storing sensitive information, that storage, that data is going to have a huge target on it. >> reporter: researchers with a digital accountability council found some apps, including the cdc's app, also sent transmissions that were not encrypted. >> that created a cyber securit

>> we have 60 apps on the app store. they go through the same rules that the 1.7 million do. >> okay. here is why i asked the question. my understanding is the app store review guidelines tell app developers not to submit copycat apps. is that correct? >> i'm not totally familiar, but i believe that's the case because we were getting a number of apps that were essentially the same thing. a sort of cookie cutter. >> i could represent to you that we've reviewed the guidelines and they say that app developers should have original ideas, that copycat ideas are not fair and that apples customers do not want those. on the other hand, the app developer agreement which you require every developer to agree to does give apple the right to coffee other apps. the question is why one rule for the developers they compete with you and the opposite rule for apple? >> congressman, i'm not familiar with that. i can follow up with your office on it. >> i would appreciate if you could follow up with our office. my understanding is that the

called tick tock the social media app here check out some videos it's mostly like you know short fun videos dance challenges cooking tips make up to i love a wet cat and he tomic see a workout like the way these guys dance i don't personally have to talk but i'm looking at this thinking maybe maybe i should this seems fun it streams streams through a look this app i have to tell you is actually grown into a behemoths i want to show you something on my computer real quick these are the top apps worldwide for may 2020 by downloads check out number one in the world is tick tock above zoom what's at facebook instagram tick-tock over. 2000000000 people have downloaded this app is over 800000000 regular users but what begin is this kind of fun video thing has actually become a bit of a center of international intrigue and that's what we're going to talk about today with an excellent panel of guests on this nominee as her guest interviews themselves to you we're going to start with. bethany bethany keith keith ellison who you are why you're here today. yeah my name is bethany allen abraham

called tick tock it's a social media app here check out some videos it's mostly like you know short fun videos dance challenges cooking tips make up to i love what cat anytime i see a workout like the way these guys dance i don't personally have tech talk but i'm looking at this thinking maybe maybe i should this seems fun it streams streams there will look this app i have to tell you it's actually grown into a behemoth i want to show you something on my computer real quick these are the top apps worldwide for may 2020 by downloads check out number one in the world is tick tock above zoom what's at facebook instagram tick-tock over 2000000000 people have downloaded this app has over 800000000 regular users but when it begins this kind of fun video thing has actually become a bit of a center of international intrigue and that's what we're going to talk about today with an excellent panel of guests on this nominee as her guest interviews themselves to you we're going to start with. bethany bethany katie tell us a who you are why you're here today. now my name is bethany allen abraham

is using the app. countries like china have increased perspiration by making contact tracing mandatory and have used social media platforms to track movements. needless to say it should not happen in the united states. given that privacy will be paramount a and should not happen in the united states. given that privacy will be paramount, a major limiting factor in our ability to enact nationwide digital contact tracing is that we do not have a consumer data privacy law or do we have a ... contact tracing is operating under a patchwork of state laws and the circumstances only increases the need for a national standard. committee republicans have been working diligently to develop a consumer data privacy proposal without a national consumer data provides sea protection law. this issue is best left up to the states. another limiting factor is the accuracy of digital contact tracing apps has been questionable and could result in false positives or false negatives. the cdc stated in its guidelines that more

to discriminate between app developers with similar apps. and also as to small app developers verses large app developers. so, mr. cook, does apple not treat all app developers equally? >> sir, we treat every developer the same. we have opened transparent rules. it's a rigorous process. because we care so deeply about privacy and security and policy, we look at every app before it goes on. but those rules apply evenly to everyone. and as you can tell by going -- >> some developers are favored over others. so, isn't that correct? >> that is not correct. and as you can tell from going from -- >> i'll give you an example. i do has two app store employees assigned to the app store. >> i don't know about that, sir. >> and they have that same access to apple personnel. >> concluding looking at their beta test apps. >> let me ask you this question. apple has negotiated exceptions to its typical commission for some apps like amazon prime. is that a reduced commission, such as the one amazon prime gets available to other app developers? >> it's avail

there's the headline said the stream is next but if a video sharing app take tuck in national security risk of morning after that. are there on josh rushing welcome to the stream home edition i'm sitting in for the air replaceable to me ok today broadcasting to you live from my home and let's start off where on you tube right now right you're watching this check out that box over there and join me in this discussion give me some questions to ask the guest today i'd love to have you be a part of the show now let me ask you this have you heard of this app called tic toc it's a social media app here check out some videos it's mostly like you know short fun videos dance challenges i don't know cooking tips make up to i love a wet cat anytime i see a workout like the way these guys dance i don't personally have tech talk but i'm looking at this thinking maybe maybe i should this seems fun it streams streams there will look this app i have to tell you it's actually grown into a behemoth i want to show you something on my computer real quick these are the top apps worldwide for may 2020 by do

called tic toc it's a social media app here check out some videos it's mostly like you know short fun videos dance challenges cooking tips make up to i love a wet cat anytime i see a workout like the way these guys dance i don't personally have technique but i'm looking at this thinking maybe maybe i should this seems fun it streams streams there will look this app i have to tell you it's actually grown into a behemoth i want to show you something on my computer real quick these are the top apps worldwide for may 2020 by downloads check out number one in the world is tick tock above zoom what's at facebook instagram tick-tock over 2000000000 people have downloaded this app has over 800000000 regular users but when it begins this kind of fun video thing has actually become a bit of a center of international intrigue and that's what we're going to talk about today with an excellent panel of guests on this nominee as her guest interviews themselves to you we're going to start with. bethany bethany kiki telesur who you are why you're here today. now my name is bethany allen abraham and i'

is using the app. countries like china have increased perspiration by making contact tracing mandatory and have used social media platforms to track movements. needless to say it should not happen in the united states. given that privacy will be paramount a major factor in our ability for contact tracing is we do not have a federal consumer data log nor do we have a national data security breach notification system. contact tracing is operating under state law and the circumstances may only increase the need for that standard. many republicans have been working diligently to develop a consumer data privacy proposal without a national consumer data privacy protection law. this issue is best left up to the state. another limiting factor is the accuracy of digital contact tracing app and has been questionable and could result in false positives or false negatives for the cd stated in their guidelines if more data is needed to assess the true public health value of digital contact tracing. contact traces a

a growing number of new apps are designed to help with contact tracing. some are privately developed and other developed by governments in the u.s. and only four states using them as part of their pandemic strategy but in other countries they are getting popular. >> that is it that is all there is to it. >> reporter: brent just started using a contact tracing apps for covid-19 called corona worn developed by the german government. >> i downloaded it pretty quickly and on the day it was released. >> reporter: has been living in berlin for the past decade and he said downloading the app was voluntary. >> more people who have it the more effective it is and i thought it was something i should do to help get back to a sense of normalcy quicker. >> reporter: here is the way the app he is using and most like it work. on your way through the day from home to work or exercise or shopping, it documents the digital encounter between two smart phones. if somebody using the app test positive for the coronavirus, they can notify others if they choose to. if you had co

dozens of countries have launched contect racing apps to want to say new 19 infections and if it's to keep the virus contained it's been exactly one month since germany rolled up its own app and it seems a good time to us is it working. on youssif is yet to oncet good to see so is there any indication that this app is helping in the fight against a virus or one thing that health officials are looking at to judge this is how many people have downloaded it so in germany almost 16000000 people have downloaded it that far outpaces countries like france that have a similar app or only about 2000000 people so far have downloaded the app so a real big difference there and some studies have shown that as long as 15 percent of the population is using a contact tracing app like the one in germany then it has some effect on the infection rate in the countries so it can already start working another way to judge whether or not it's effective is how many people have announced to have said that they have the corona virus they've tested positive for the crown of iris through this ok and how many peo

app store developers set prices for their apps, and never paid for shelf space. we provide every developer with cutting edge tools like compilers and programming languages and more than 150,000 essential software building blocks called apis, the app store guidelines ensure a secure user experience, they are transparent and apply equally to every developer and for the vast majority of apps developers keep an hundred % of the money they make. the only apps that are subject to commission are those where the developer acquires a customer on an apple device and ready features or services would be experienced and consumed on an apple device. in the app store's more than ten year history we have never raised the commission or added a single fee. in fact we have reduced it for subscriptions and exempted additional categories for the apps. iam here additional categories for the apps. i am here today because scrutiny is reasonable and appropriate. we approach this process with respect and humility. but we make no concession on the facts. what began as 500 apps is now more

>> we have 60 apps on the app store. they go through the same rules that the 1.7 million do. >> okay. here is why i asked the question. my understanding is the app store review guidelines tell app developers not to submit copycat apps. is that correct? >> i'm not totally familiar, but i believe that's the case because we were getting a number of apps that were essentially the same thing. a sort of cookie cutter. >> i could represent to you that we've reviewed the guidelines and they say that app developers should have original ideas, that copycat ideas are not fair and that apples customers do not want those. on the other hand, the app developer agreement which you require every developer to agree to does give apple the right to coffee other apps. the question is why one rule for the developers they compete with you and the opposite rule for apple? >> congressman, i'm not familiar with that. i can follow up with your office on it. >> i would appreciate if you could follow up with our office. my understanding is that the

small app developers versus large app developers. mr. cook, does apple not treat all app developers equally >> sir, we treat every developer the same we have open and transparent rules. because we care so deeply about privacy, we do -- but those rules apply evenly to anyone >> some developers are favored over others, though, isn't that correct? >> that is not correct as you can tell from going -- >> i'll give you an example. baidu has two app store employees assigned to help it navigate the app store bureaucracy. is that true >> i don't know about that, sir. >> enks we you don't have other app developers who have that same access to we do the beta test apps, regardless of whether they're small or large. >> let me ask you this question for some a.m. by amazon prime, is that a reduced commission such as the one that amazon tries to get available to other app developers >> it's available to anyone meeting the conditions, yes. >> will you me ask you, do they require all app developers to use apple's payments processing system if those de

where dozens of countries have launched contact tracing apps to monitor new covert 900 factions in an effort to keep the virus contained it's been exactly one month since germany rolled out its own internet we want to ask is it working to ensure that my colleague in essence is here at the big table with me so i mean what do we know i mean has it made a difference well there's 2 things that health experts are looking at here that's how many people have downloaded this app that's one thing and in germany that's looking pretty good 16000000 people have downloaded it in the 1st month so markings of 130000000 that's right it's about it's about 19 percent and an oxford study said that in order for an app like this to be effective at least 15 percent of the population have to use it and another thing that experts are looking at is how people are using this app are people registering that they've tested positive for the corona virus and is this information being passed along to the other users of the app the problem here is that the app in germany is very privacy oriented data privacy or and

is a hindrance to how researchers and app developers can look at how the app is working. in other words, the question of if the app is working -- brent: we have to assume it is working, right? >> everything is based on estimates so far. there is no evidence that the data privacy is actually making it worse. some people are even saying it is more functional because the real important figure is how many people are using the app. evidence says in germany, 16 million people have downloaded the app. in other words, the more data privacy, the more people download the app, the better -- brent: yes, big -- yes, less big brother. you downloaded the app on the day it was released. what has been your experience? i see you are still looking healthy. >> that's right, and i still have my privacy. i downloaded the app, and it was pretty easy. you do it once. i have a low risk assessment. i have, like, a green box on my phone that says that i have not come in contact with someone who has the virus in the past 14 days. that's a good sign. there were some problems at the beginning. it's at

apple is the sole decisionmaker as to whether an app is made available to app users through apple's app store, isn't that correct? >> sir, the app store, thank you for the question. the app store is a feature of the iphone much like the camera is and the chip is. and so -- >> my point is, i'm sorry to interrupt, but i want to get to the point. the point is that apple is the sole decisionmaker as to whether an happ is made available to app users through the apple store, isn't that correct? >> if it is a native app, yes, sir. if it's a web app, no. >> thank you. then, throughout our investigation we've heard concerns rules governor earning the app store app process are not available to developers. the rules are made up as you go. they are arbitrarily interpreted and enforced and are subject to change whenever apple sees fit to change. developers have no choice but to go along with the changes or they must leave the app store. that is an enormous amount of power. also the rules get changed to benefit apple at the expense of app developers and the app store is said to also discriminate betw

other apps they reviewed asked only for location. >> the data you give to an app should relate to what you are getting out of the app. >> reporter: researchers also found connections with third party marketers were not always clearly spelled out. for example, north dakota's app called care 19 was at first called out for its relationship with four square. a marketing company. it now discloses that it uses four square to determine nearby businesses that you may have visited. the app's developer told us four square has agreed not to retain data. this privacy attorney says agreements are not a guarantee. >> if you think that the app that's supposed to keep you safe from a virus is going to sell you shoes the next day from a shoe store you walked by on your normal afternoon jog, you are not going to want to use it. >> reporter: matthew with the electronic frontier foundation says there's also a security risk. >> whenever you have a company or entity that's storing a vast amount of sensitive information, that -- that storage, that data is going to have a huge target on it. >> reporter: resea

we don't need them to feature us in the app store. if there was a way to distribute our software directly to the iphone, without going through the app store, we would do that. that's exactly what we do on the -- [inaudible]. liz: before we go, since you fought back publicly, have you seen any kind of retaliation, whether it's subtle or obvious by apple or even a third party? anything? >> i think apple has realized now that the spotlight is on them. you would have thought they would have realized that when i testified in front of congress in january, and the congress people on the record tells me hey, if you face any retaliation for your testimony in front of the congress, from apple, or any of the other companies you're testifying against, please let us know. well, apple showed up with that demand letter, and i was invited to do -- i led the antitrust subcommittee -- i let the antitrust subcommittee know about this. i'm sure this will be part of the hearing that tim cook will be facing later this month. liz: all right. we will be back

over competing apps within the app store the truth of the app store is that it allows apple to maintain better security and better privacy on its platform. the tight rules are a huge part of why they have 46% of the market so i'm -- my guess is that a thorough analysis will say that the app store itself is fine the issues they'll focus on are the way that apple promotes its own payment systems and its own apps above everybody else and there may be an argument over the fee. i think tim cook is actually right on the fee when you compare it to things like cellular phone carriers and cable companies. but at the end of the day, this is a political thing and he may be vulnerable on that issue. i look at apple being in a completely different class from google and facebook but also amazon with google, you've got the situation now that, what, more than 40% of searches, the stuff above the fold takes you to another google page. they're using search to close off the open web they're using their browsers to do the same thing, to effectively not only get control of the web but to get control of how

between app developers with similar app player last on the apple platform, and versus large app developers. why do they not treat all app developers equally? >> sir, we treat every developer the same. we have open and transparent rules. it's a rigorous process. because we care so deeply about privacy and security and quality, we do look at every app before it goes on, but those rules apply evenly to everyone, and as you can tell -- >> some developers are favored over others, though, isn't that correct? >> that is not correct, and as you can tell from going from -- >> i will give you an example. i do have two app stores -- two app store employees to navigate the bureaucracy. is that true? >> i don't know about that, sir. >> well, you don't have other app developers who have the same access to apple personnel, do you? >> we do -- we do a lot of things with developers, including looking at their beta test apps, regardless of whether they are small or large. >> okay, well, let me ask you this question. apple has negotiated exceptions to typical 30% commission for some apps, like amazon prime.

it's a massively popular video sharing app. two interconnecting stories to talk about — tiktok saying it's quitting hong hong and the us government looks set to ban it. now, quitting hong kong is because of the new security law there which gives the chinese authorities significant new powers. it's an interesting decision. tiktok is chinese—owned with an american ceo, and this would appear to be an effort to put some distance between the company and china. but if that's a message for the trump administration, it's not cutting through. with respect to chinese apps on people's cell phones, i can assure you, the united states will get this one right too, laura. i don't want to get out... i don't want to get out in front of the president, but it's something we're looking at. would you recommend that people download that app on their phones, tonight, tomorrow, anytime currently? only if you want your private information in the hands of the chinese communist party. well, china also appears displeased with tiktok. here's the chines

we want anything that we offer through an app to be supplementing instead of replacing our currently contact tracing efforts. >> so it seems like any app-based program the city might offer would be on a strictly opt-in basis? >> absolutely. we would want people to choose whether or not they want to participate in any of these app-based programs, and it would strictly be voluntarily if they were diagnosed with covid and they wanted to share information with the department of public health and others. we really want to make sure that any app that we recommend as a department is completely confidential and maintains the highest levels of privacy, and also is able to supplement our current offering of contact tracing and not become a distraction whereby people are getting notified that don't have contacts or information that they need in order to take the appropriate next steps. >> yeah. i think it would address people's concerns if it's strictly voluntarily whether you use the app or not. so finally, what would you say to our residents is the best way to stay safe during this pandemic?

the fact that the vast majority of apps in the app store are free. jeff bezos -- his testimony is different. he talks about a personal story. how his parents invested in amazon in the day. -- a truerican has american story. this is a first time we will see him testify before congress. he does not speak publicly very often. he is also the owner of the washington post so that might inspire some more praise or flattery from the lawmakers. that would be an interesting dynamic i will be watching. vonnie: absolutely. it is almost for certain that there would be the opportunity to ask questions of these representatives. they will very likely want to ask jeff bezos about things like amazon's labor record. or will they stay away from those off-topic things? emily: no, they will go off-topic and we can expect this to be all over the map. i talked to all four of the companies and they are prepared that this will not just be focused on specific antitrust issues, but issues that the lawmakers care about. maybe they had a personal experience with a tweet that was

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, banded aloer with a 58 ohinese apps. that appears connected to the border clash with china and the gowen valley in which rs indian soldied. india's government is claiming that the app so using data illegally ead ey are a t to india's national security. now, tiktok is facing the prospectslo ong the u.s. as well, which is another huge market. there is hostility elsewhere too. an australian senator says tiktok mike to be a data collection service disguised as social media. here is james clayton ain. reporter if you look at tiktok's business model, it is in countries around the world, and they want to have a big presence in th west, in europe, in the u.s. and of course i wanted to have a huge presence in india. inthan market now looks very difficult forns tiktok, ering it is banned. the u.s. is looking increasingly difficult. where will this end? if you work for tiktok, even if you are on tiktok rightow, it is a worrying time. because really, at any point w, if you look at what pompeo said, if you look at the fact that trump

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into account when developing apps. now, some of these are not going to be anything new to you, like privacy by design, for example. but there is one that's kind of interesting which is, use privacy protective design features, such as decentralized protocols. so, one of the things that i think is really interesting about these contact racing apps that we've been running into recently is that they don't actually collect everybody's location in one big centralized database, and everybody's health information in one big centralized database. it lives here, and it is, and i have my bluetooth turned on, and you have your bluetooth turned on, and it has, these devices all have a single bluetooth identifier and if i test positive for coronavirus then that gets uploaded to the database and you dial into the database and you see, is anyone in any of these bluetooth ideas that i've been in close proximity with, is in the database or not? so, by using those kind of decentralized protocols we solve a lot of privacy issues up front.

their apps. from the article, you cannot sign up for netflix in the app. we know it is a hassle that is the message will get. but what the app does not tell you is that the fix is simple, go to the web browser on your phone or computer and sign up at netflix.com. netflix is not the only hugely popular app leaving iphone users in the dark about paying for stuff. you cannot sign up for spotify amazon prime in their respective mobile apps. amazon's kindle app does not let you buy e-books. audible has a complicated credit system to download audible books on ios. these apps are broken on purpose because of apple's lucrative rules. companies are church for every purpose -- purchase and subscription -- companies are charged for every purchase and subscription to any developer who wants to make money on the iphone and ipad audience must pay a hefty surcharge for that privilege. mack in germantown, maryland you say no to regulating. no because, i said you had to think about where we came from. you look at

>> i'm not familiar with that app. >> okay. apple allowed this saudi app to remain. so there are two types of apps. they use the same tool. apple kicks one out and said that that was, one that was helping parents but keeps the one owned by a powerful government. if that is correct, mr. cook, that apps that supposedly did the same thing, why do you, why would you keep the one owned by a powerful government? >> i'd like to look into this and get back with your office -- >> it sounds like you apply different rules to the same apps. >> we apply the rules to all developers evenly. >> did the fact that apple had -- [inaudible conversations] let me just ask you this, does the fact that apple had its own parental control apps that were competing with these third-party app contribute to apple's decision to kick them off the apple store, mr. cook? what do you think about that? >> it did not. there's over 30 parental controls on the app store today, so this is plenty of competition in this area. and i would point out that this is not an area where apple gets any revenue at all.

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customer outside the app store. these are the practices regulators and lawmakers will scrutinize one of the potential outcome is that some of these anti-competitive behavior would be warned against and would potentially be outlawed going forward. >> thank you for helping us prepare for the hearing later today. professor at imd business school >>> the number of coronavirus-related deaths in the u.s. has risen above 60,000. six states in the west reported a record number. the number has topped 4.3 million. >> telling cnbc he would not pass a billout including the measure. democrats are opposed to the bill >> there is no chance of the country getting back to normal without it as the majority leader, i can tell you no bill will pass the senate that doesn't have the liability protection in it the democrats need to understand for the country to get back to normal, we cannot have an epidemic of lawsuits on the heels of a pandemic that is not over yesterday that we are trying to get through. >> our nbc colleague tracie pott

you know, don't use bad words on our app. or, no, you may not deliver the groceries in a swim suit, that kind of stuff. you do still have some way over what it is they do? >> absolutely. what we do is we provide a lot of guidance. what we found is it is a very different model than going from working gigs and being an on demand app and having gigs given to you and being told to go and shop them and actually going and running your own business. we have an entire program. we have a coaching program that works with business owners that gives them guidance on the best type of pricing, the way to promote their business. you know, as they're building up their profile, you know, how do you promote the benefits of using a local service like your own over the on demand apps. what we want to do is give them all the tools and all the support that they need to be able to launch and run and grow a successful delivery business. but at the end of the day, it is their decision. it is their business. so the way they want to conduct it and the

there's 2 things that health experts are looking at here that how many people have downloaded this app that's one thing and in germany that's looking pretty good 16000000 people have downloaded it in the 1st month or so marking the 130000000 that's right about it's about 19 percent and an oxford study said that in order for a an app like this to be effective at least 15 percent of the population have to use it another thing the experts are looking at is how people are using this app are people registering that they've tested positive for the corona virus and is this information being passed along to the other users of the app the problem here is that out in germany in this very privacy oriented data privacy are and they don't store user data so it's almost impossible to have any real statistics on how people are using that so if they're not storing it in the data. that is proof that conscious of data privacy is that a hindrance to actually trying to prevent the virus from being spread well yeah data privacy experts are praising this ad for how good it is and not field but it definitely

this pandemic the app is free to download just head to the app store today to get in on your phone or tablet computer right now. former presidential candidate and restaurant or herman cain has died from covid-19 the 7 former ceo. >>a father's pizza was hospitalized earlier this month. as a co-chair black voices for trump came was one of the surrogate said president trump's june rally in tulsa oklahoma at least 8 trump advance team staffers there tested positive for coronavirus. >>herman cain was seen they're not wearing a mask, however, it is unknown where he got the virus. we'll switch it up now talk about our 4 zone forecast as we take a live look outside here at the golden gate bridge and some fog rolling in. but some blue skies still out there this evening, our chief meteorologist lawrence karnow is here now with a look at our forecast and i can't believe that august is this weekend summer is just flying by, i'm still eating a valentine's still working on that ah, yes, the dog is actually going to be more like fog us we're going to see a lot of low clouds and fog i don't see a maj

so you were concerned about that the app basically undermined kids's privacy but another app was app-sure, an app owned by the saudi arabia government, do you recall what apple's position was towards this app >> i'm not familiar with that app. >> okay. apple allowed this saudi app to remain so there are two types of apps, they use the same tool apple kicks one out and said that this -- one that was helping parents but keeps the one owned by a powerful government if that is connect, mr. cook, that abscess supposedly did the same thing, why would you keep the one owned by a powerful government >> i'd like to look into this and get back with your office. >> because it sounds like you applied different rules to the same apps. >> we apply the rules to all developers evenly. >> do the fact that apple. >> we were worried about -- >> we're going to continue monitoring the hearing we're going to bring in for some reaction facebook former chief privacy officer and general council chris kelly. do you think mark zuckerberg might create pressures by himself by mentioning they've copies tools of other

and of course you can also use the app to buy online. in the first three months after it was launched, more than 200,000 people used it. >> translator: the app gives the stores a new way to interact with their customers. it's helped promote our mall and has boosted sales. >> reporter: meanwhile in japan another app is helping businesses that have been struggling. ornamental plants are grown here. after the coronavirus closed them down, his wholesale income dropped by about 40%. now he's considering using an augmented reality app developed by an i.t. company. customers can interact with a digital character to view the ornamental plalants f from mult anangles and t then order them online. >> translator:r: this app is ve good becauause customers can imagine my plants more visually. i need to do everyththing i cano promote my products. >> reporter: the app developer has been testing it with dozens of producers and other businesses and will launch it in august. >> translator: our aim is to improve the shopping experience of the customers. esp

the app that aged you? that was owned by a russian company. perhaps we were fading a facial recognition database. the truth is you don't know. what will happen to your data and how it will be used. that is the only question about this app and many others. >> so there's been talk that tiktok might be banned in the united states. is that realist snik. >> well, it could be if the trump administration feels very strongly as part of their ongoing inactions with china. they've had several. we've seen them discussing huawei. could they ban them? absolutely. it is a popular app but it could be banned. is there any precedent for that? >> yads of an app being banned. if i were to tell you your data might be co-opted by the chinese national party, i imagine the messaging would come out very strongly, that you would lose control over videos you created that contained your family members or friends, you might take a pause. it would be in effect a ban. you would not want to use that apple if you were concerned about how

you have entered into the app. it's also looking at your browser history, some of your activity outside of the app is using cookies and other technology to sort of profile you in some ways. on top of that, they've been shown to be capturing clipboard data, which could actually end up capturing pass words, because that's how a lot of password managers use. they put passwords on your clipboard. now as far as the clipboard issues are concerned, tiktok says they've addressed that. they're going to stop doing, that even though they said so before and they didn't stop doing it. but they said for sure this time. and the broader data question is sort of -- is a good question. it's just it applies to all kinds of social media companies that profile us. >> right, right. from what i'm reading, the app has been downloaded more than two billion times. that's according to the research firm censor tower. is it so widely used now that in terms of people stepping back from using or can a ban be effective or even legal? >> well, you

every time you open the app it is sending out half a megabyte of data. that is an effort to understand where you are and who you are and who your friends are. it gets the contacts. looks at what is in your private messages. that is not anymore information that facebook takes it is probably less information. this track you when you're not using the facebook app even when your phone is off. that is evidence that tik-tok is doing that it comes down to the question of do you trust data mining, do you trust data mining done by chinese companies or american companies? tik-tok is hugely popular. let's say somebody is not willing to give it up? is there anything that person can do to make it safer while they use it? >> one of my rules is, you do not have to give your real name. when they asked for your email address or make up a fake one. fill it with misinformation about you. if the data is used or stolen, it cannot as easily be linked back to you. even alexander hamilton used a fake name to write federalist papers. we can take a lesson from him. >> reporter: t

obviously, there have been some big app reported by third-party sources. bump in the disney plus subscriber numbers. i think the timing is really perfect. obviously, you have a huge base of people sitting at home. also kind of satisfied that hunger for new content. viewers are craving something new. from a timing standpoint, this is a cultural phenomenon. this is a message about diversity and antiracism so really topical. emily: right. certainly a big part of the disney story we will continue to follow. geetha, thank you so much for joining us. coming up, we will be talking to the ceo of walmart. he joins david rubenstein next. on the and its big bet future of e-commerce. ♪ emily: walmart is working on whether in the covid-19 storm. hiring thousands of workers to meet surging consumer demand. earlier, walmart ceo doug mcmillon spoke with david rubenstein. take a listen to what he had to say. doug: we sell food and consumables and things people really needed during this crisis. our form is retail as deemed as essential. in the u.s. and in countries around

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china doesn't allow us apps but you allowed chinese apps in our country. we need to balance this off so if they are not going to allow hours they should not allow there's. rob: it is differently a possibility. what is the chinese government could learn from apps like tick-tock am mostly kids using it from what i know and what information are they able to extract from people using it? >> they are able to extract user data and china takes everything it possibly can because sometimes they find clues that are important and especially what devices they are using so it is important we do this. china take this information it surveilled and surreptitiously takes from us and feeds into its artificial intelligence systems and the more data ai has the better it is. for china there are a number of considerations we normally don't think of. rob: you would not think it is as big a threat as huawei, or is it part of the collection? >> it is part of the collection in china uses huawei technologies have the telecom equipment manufacturer, cte another one, chinese apps, you

according to reports that's more than $900.00. 5 to develop the app. you can see the similarity. picked up is brimming with clips of stunts jokes and friends having fun or lives thinking these days the app offers more than dance videos although music still plays the leading role. vice president of content strategy yasmine a kind of move an online video agency says anyone can go viral if their content is well made to talk talk a short snack sized content that's entertaining that's distractions that makes you feel good it's the perfect diversion during those moments when you don't have that much time but want to consume something. perfect up. challenges like this emotive dance are especially popular on tick tock videos with challenge hashtags often go viral videos mean says it isn't surprising challenge challenges are well known engagement system and people have always liked comparing their performance to someone else's we want to prove ourselves to grow our audience or increasing gauge meant the nice thing about challenges is that you don't do them alone others join the wave and i

the amazon app store, 30%. samsung app store, 30%. microsoft is 30% in most cases. some of the gaming stores like steam, nintendo, playstation or xbox are also 30%. what apple does not say is that a lot of these app stores are 30% because they are following apple's footsteps. still, nonetheless, they are showing that everyone is basically doing the same thing. so why aren't we going after apple? emily: what does apple have to say about the fact that it is not only the gatekeeper, but it is also a competitor in the app store? they also have got their own apps in the app store, like apple music, which as we know, the folks at spotify have made quite clear. mark: i mean, apple's argument is that the app store has not held back spotify, but has instead let them basically become a giant public company. far morethe way, sells subscriptions than apple music. so there argument is that the app store has done pretty well for spotify. so it is not really a great argument to say that apple is hurting by operating the store while also being on their. -- there. tole doesn't have