i was talking to george cleveland, who is here today, he is the grandson of grover cleveland. we were talking about that yesterday. there's a lot of letters that exist, a lot of letters that he wrote. he was a voracious reader and writer, there are tons of letters that our family has accumulated over the years. david: i see. have you ever heard this story president reagan after he was elected, he went up to see tip o'neill. he said, this desk is grover cleveland's. president reagan said, well, i played him in a movie. he said, no, you played grover cleveland alexander, the pitcher not the president. [laughter] david: i don't know if that is true or not, but it sounds like a good story. let's talk about president mckinley. he was a governor and senator from ohio. and tragically killed in a world's fair. >> that is correct, in buffalo. david: that led to teddy roosevelt becoming president. what kind of memorabilia, if any, you have from president mckinley? >> i have a letter written on my birthday, december 21, 1896, it was not on white house stationery, it was written on execut

tip o'neill said this desk is grover cleveland's. president reagan said, well, i played him in a movie. he said, no, you played grover cleveland alexander, the pitcher, not the president. [laughter] david: i don't know if that is true or not, but it sounds like a good story. let's talk about president mckinley. he was a governor and senator -- >> he was a governor and senator from ohio. and tragically killed in a world's fair. >> that is correct, in buffalo. david: that led to teddy roosevelt becoming president. what kind of memorabilia, if any, you have from president mckinley? >> i have a letter written on my birthday, december 21st, 1896, it was not on white house stationery, it was written on executive mansion stationery. it is very special to me. completely preserved, and i treasure that. david: you look great for a guy born in 1896. [laughter] david: how many times do you introduce yourself and say i'm matt mckinley, what percentage of the people ask if you're related to mckinley? >> all the time. david: have you thought about

i was talking to george cleveland, who is here today, he is the grandson of grover cleveland. we were talking about that yesterday. there's a lot of letters that exist, a lot of letters that he wrote. he was a voracious reader and writer, there are tons of letters that our family has accumulated over the years. david: i see. have you ever heard this story president reagan after he was elected, he went up to see tip o'neill. he said, this desk is grover cleveland's. president reagan said, well, i played him in a movie. he said, no, you played grover cleveland alexander, the pitcher not the president. [laughter] i don't know if that is true or not, but it sounds like a good story. let's talk about president mckinley. he was a governor and senator from ohio and was tragically killed in a world's fair. massee: that is correct, in buffalo. david: that led to teddy roosevelt becoming president. what kind of memorabilia, if any, do you have from president mckinley? massee: i have a letter written on my birthday, december 21, 1896. it was not on white house stationery, it was written

as such, it has been used by democratic presidents, grover cleveland, woodrow wilson, franklin roosevelt, john kennedy and lyndon johnson. roosevelt used it to put an end to a detroit race riot during which 25 black people were killed and over 400 were injured. president eisenhower used it to desegregate little rock schools. kennedy use it to end a race riot at the university of mississippi in 1962 after a black man was enrolled there. he used it again in my home state when democratic governor george wallace disgracefully tried to block the enrollment of vivian malone and james hood, both black people, at the university of alabama. he also used it to enforce the desegregation of public schools in alabama in reaction to the hate-filled environment around the state wallace encouraged. in 1989 it was used by president george h.w. bush in st. croix in the aftermath of hurricane hugo and again in 1992 when the governor of california asked for assistance in the riots which followed the beating of rodney king. it has not been used since. nor did president trump use it earlier this summer here i

this was how will jackson, he was a grover cleveland nine the. serve for a couple of years and got ill and died in the 1890's. from this standpoint, there is a good precedent for johnson. a sickly any president who is nominated gets confirmed. why this precedent, johnson may have some problems here. he fills to anticipate where the key opposition comes from in 1968. this is the chart that johnson is looking at as he's making his election in 1968, this is the roll call vote for marshals confirmation. you will notice that this is not a unanimous vote, like many of the other thirties, forties and fifties nominees have been. there are 11 senators who voted against thurgood marshall's confirmation the 11 are up top on the chart. if you squint closely you can pretty much identify where these people are coming from. they are all from the south. 10 of them are democrats. this is a peeriod, and the 11th is a former democrat who is at this point a republican senator from south carolina. in johnson's mind as he is thinking of who will be a good replacement

cleveland. but to flay him for calling women horse faced lesbians and he just stood there looking horse faced himself, unable to respond. then she starts going on about nondisclosure agreements. he wouldn't disclose how many nondisclosure agreements he signed that eventually it is such a lively debate that miracle of miracles, joe biden wakes up and he starts having a swing. come on, man. god love you, man. nba. i played for the nba years ago. my son owns an nba franchise that a chinese general gave him. >> tucker: author and columnist mark steyn joins us. thank you for coming on. >> my pleasure. thanks, martha. always a pleasure. yeah, i believe he's just been endorsed by mao tse-tung and nad king ludwig of bavaria. looking in pretty good shape for super tuesday. the only other guy with this name that i've ever read the cross was from malta so i quite like the idea of a multis american president but the multis american. on multis american day is one of the smallest. and i do believe -- and hill

. >> onto the supreme court, at the time the case came to the court, grover cleveland was president of the united states. but the supreme court itself looked very much like it did in our last case, the civil rights cases, the chief justice was morrison wait who had been nominated by ulysses sfrmgts grant, and the associates justices were all republicans, except for one. they were samuel freeman miller, a lincoln appointee. he served the second longest tenure, 1863 to 1897. william woods, joseph bradley, horace gray, an arthur appointee, stanley matthews who wrote the decision in this case, garrfield appointee, john marshall harlan, a haste appointee, and the johnson democrat appointee was samuel blacksford. what should we know about this court in general? >> as a whole in the civil rights cases, the court was fairly consistent that congress lacked the power to provide additional protections for the freed men, that case was one dissenter, john marshal harlan, who said that laws discriminating against the freed men were badges in instances of slavery. he thought the 13th and 14th amendme

he was a political advisor of president grover cleveland, and when there was a vacancy in the supreme court, cleveland obviously felt that his friend, his confidant, new york court of appeals judge, rufus peckham junior, would have been a good candidate for the united states supreme court, but he would have been in this courtroom here and would have had a pretty good idea of how he would have voted if he had been on this court when the lochner case was decided here. we know how he voted when he carried a majority in the united states supreme court in favor of lochner. ms. swain: that is more on rufus peckham. here is the singular question that the new york supreme court was asked to visit, did the new york bakeshop act violate the liberty protected by due process under the 14th >> amendment? that is a big question. what kind of arguments were made? prof. barnett: one thing to understand we have a very modern, view of what rights are and how they work, a post-new deal world. so when the court talked about liberty of contract as part of the liberty protected by the due process clause, w