elizabeth: okay. we are in breaking news mode. tonight, president trump just a short time ago throwing down, he's warning democrat politicians that his administration will not put the nation back into a covid-19 lockdown. the president said, quote, i don't know about other administrations, only time will tell. the president also said that his administration did historic work on a covid-19 vaccine, and he also warned democrat governors like andrew cuomo, you will not get our federal help if you don't trust the vaccine developed under the trump administration. with us tonight, ken paxton the, jodi arrington, jim trusty along with kt mcfarland on today's big headlines. washington getting ready for the million maga march as counter-protests a are planned. major networks called georgia and arizona for biden, computer software used for voting created major irregularities as resentment grows over this story and more, the do as i say, not as i do politicians. new examples of them breaking their own covid-19 s

elizabeth: okay. joining me now is former u.s. attorney bret tolman top counsel to senators orrin hatch of senate judiciary. great to have you on. senator mitch mcconnell, great to see you again. where do you think this is now headed as senator mitch mcconnell is saying trump is within, 100% within his rights to challenge the election results just as the florida recount in the year 2000 was challenged? what do you think is going to happen next? >> look, let's step back. we have some time. nothing officially transfer until you have the final election results and then obviously in january we need to have a single candidate ready to be sworn in. let's see what there is out there. is there validity to some of the allegations or is there not? if there is not validity move on, embrace the new president. try to work with them, try to get things done if this country, both sides will argue for a long time that they felt wrong about this election or that. now if there are some things about the allegations that

elizabeth: got it. congressman. elizabeth: thank you i'm elizabeth macdonald. thank you for watching "the evening edit." see you tomorrow night. lou: good evening, everybody, it has been almost 24 hours since the first polls of yesterday closed and we still don't know whether president trump or joe biden has won the election. at this hour joe biden is leading president trump by 264 electoral college votes to 214. 270 of coursee needed to win. there are five battleground states that are still counting mail-in ballots. that could yet tip the scales toward either candidate. half a percent separates presiden

elizabeth: both in florida. >> yes. elizabeth: wow, a heck of a story. hit close to home to you, brett. two friends, where two people voted for them instead you know, basically using their ballots. >> they went online. found their name. they went online found their name and birthdate. saw this they had voted when they hadn't. what does that mean? i don't know but it is worrisome. elizabeth: yeah it is worrisome. it is concerning, throw the book at these people who are doing it. brett, really appreciate it. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: president trump today honoring america's heroes on this veterans day. the president and the first lady paid their respects at arlington national cemetery. we're so happy to welcome back to the show va secretary robert wilkie who was with the president today. secretary, great to have you back on. you are the son of a army artillery commander and served as a colonel in the u.s. air force reserves. can you tell us what this day means to you? >> well, liz, this is a day that actually brings out two emotions in me. one as the head

elizabeth: okay. so biden takes wisconsin by less than 1%, just winning michigan. the trump campaign is demanding a recount in wisconsin and is trying to sue to stop counting in michigan before it is called. also filing a lawsuit in pennsylvania to stop the counting there. they want their monitors in there to watch the tabulation. former gop republican wisconsin governor scott walker, congressman, what did you think of scott walker saying in a tweet biden's lead in wisconsin is just too big. it is so big it will not be overturned in a recount. it is reportedly about 20,000 votes. what do you think of that call by scott walker there? >> well, he certainly knows wisconsin being the former governor there. but you know, it is within the margin, within the 1% that they are demanding a recount. i think they should do it. some of the top line numbers in the sheer number of voters and voter participation are very askew, very different than some of the others of the when you look to michigan, i mean we've seen

elizabeth: yeah. well he is also saying we're not saying voting irregularities affected the outcome or affected the final result. he is saying you should look into it. critics are saying there is no factual predicate showing systemic mass voter fraud enough to overturn tens of thousands of votes. analysts say that is a long shot. he is saying essentially if there is problems just go after it, right? >> well, remember yes he is because remember the department of justice wants to do two things. if the election isn't valid they want to get there in time. the chances of that, of the election invalidated in the courts are infinitesimal let me tell but also if they find law breaking, if they find felonious conduct, violation of federal felony statutes connected to election fraud he wants those people prosecuted but again his memo doesn't say go after everything. it says it has to be credible, it has to be substantial and it has to be something that may have affected the outcome. it is a very, very moderate

elizabeth's. so here we talk a little bit about how our definition of mental health and mental illness have changed over time, look a little bit at some diagnoses of patients, and then we're looking at how did people think that the mentally ill should be cared for, what should happen to them, how should they be cared for at home, which happened certainly, a lot, still does, or if they should be cared for at a hospital, separate purpose built institution. so, certainly before the mid-19th century, there were a lot of different places where you would find the mentally ill, many were in jail or almshouses, places for the poor who had nowhere else to go, and a reformer at the time, dorothea d ix, visited several hundred of these types of places all around the country. in fact, she traveled the world and saw the really terrible, wretched conditions. it touched her. teacher. sunday school she talked. she is a christian teacher, and she really believed that empathy instead of hardship was really the way

elizabeth: yeah. and so when it comes to the voter fraud allegations in nevada, for instance, claiming things like dead voters, they have to prove that somebody voted. they have to have proof that the dead voter, somebody used that name to vote. and, you know, the issue with nevada, they lose their eligibility when they leave the state temporarily, but maybe military members, that's the theory out there, were working out of state. also casino workers worked out of state due to the pandemic. so there's a lot of things hitting these cases. and we hear what you're saying. the trump lawsuits over states delaying the deadlines that nevada will accept ballots postmarked by november 10th, in pennsylvania they can, you know, accept a ballot if it arrives without a postmark. those seem to be decisions made by state courts. the u.s. constitution says the state legislature gets to decide what is, what valid counts towards the electoral college vote. what do you think of this fight? >> i think that's a better fig

i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. joining me now, back with us is former u.s. attorney brett tolman. great to have you back on. people are upset and outraged about this. why are antifa and left-wing rioters allowed rampant? media not covered it. joe biden condemned but not nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. 20 people arrested. one cop nearly blinded by a chemical spray sprayed in the cop's face a man stabbed multiple times. why is that allowed in our nation's capitol? why? >> it is bad policy making, decision making, the reason is we're not using all the tools we could be using. first of all, if you're serious about getting rid of it you have to start attacking the organizers. you have to go after those who are organizing these responses. then you have to show a significant. of force, whether through the national guard or police force that stops all of these incidents from occurring. it is possible. it can be done. but it is bad policy making by those in charge right now. elizabe

elizabeth's. here we talk a little bit about how our definition of mental health has changed over time, and of mental illness has changed over time, look a little bit at some diagnoses of patients, and then we're looking at how did people think that the mentally ill should be cared for, what should happen to them, how should they be cared for at home, which happened certainly, a lot, still does, or if they should be cared for at a hospital, separate purpose built institution. so certainly before the mid19th before the mid-19th century, there were a lot of different places where you would find the mentally ill, many were in jail or almshouses, places for the poor. and a reformer at the time visited several hundred of these types of places all around the country. in fact, she traveled the world and saw the really terrible, wretched conditions of people who were not being treated well and it really touched her. she was a sunday school teacher, she taught, she's a christian teacher, and she really bel

elizabeth's. here we talk a little bit about how our definition of mental health has changed over time, and of mental illness has changed over time, look a little bit at some diagnoses of patients, and then we're looking at how did people think that the mentally ill should be cared for, what should happen to them, how should they be cared for at home, which happened certainly, a lot, still does, or if they should be cared for at a hospital, separate purpose built institution. so certainly before the mid19th -- before the mid-19th century, there were a lot of different places where you would find the mentally ill, many were in jail or almshouses, places for the poor. and a reformer at the time visited several hundred of these types of places all around the country. in fact, she traveled the world and saw the really terrible, wretched conditions of people who were not being treated well and it really touched her. she was a sunday school teacher, she taught, she's a christian teacher, and she really

elizabeth: yeah. okay. now let's move on to this. nancy pelosi wins back the gavel as house speaker. she is signaling this could be her last term as speaker. congressman, there is a real dapping are zone happening right now for the democrat party. we'll explain. battleground state of florida, by the way, many examples of the media showing that democrats are in a postelection melt down in swing states like florida. it is not just in the house. it is also happening in the swing states. the democrats had one of the worst election performances in the country. the democrats are at a tipping point in florida. they lost, blue, blue, miami-dade county. hispanics, ex-parts from cuba and venezuela. saying we're not socialists. we're not going there but here's the thing. the timing could not be worse. we're seeing political redistricting happening where the republicans command, governing, most of the majority of statehouses across the country. >> sure. elizabeth: they can redraw the maps to get their gang into c

elizabeth: okay. let's watch rush lumbar ball here. take a -- limbaugh here. take a listen. >> you call a gigantic press conference like that, one that lasts an hour, and you announce massive bombshells, then you better have some bombshells. there'd better be something at that press conference other than what we got. i talked to so many people who were blown away by it, but the very nature of the press conference. they promised blockbuster stuff and then nothing happened. and that's just, that's not -- well, it's not good. elizabeth: okay. reports are coming in that the president is privately frustrated with the approach of his legal team. should he get a new team? >> it's so late in the game. what really needs to happen is the team needs to, you know, get on the same page. the division that we've seen between sidney powell, rudy and others, it doesn't have to be that way. if you want to delegate responsibilities, look, everybody's trying to get to the bottom of whether this is, was a fair election or

i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. joining me now is former wisconsin governor scott walker. it is great to see you, governor. one more state could put joe biden in the white house. white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany argues that trump still has a path to 270. it runs through pennsylvania, georgia, the final count georgia. associated press and fox news called arizona for biden. he has 142,000 vote lead in pennsylvania. he needs to win nevada and north carolina. he needs to run the table there. can he do it? >> yes, absolutely. i still think he can win in arizona. i've been talking to doug ducey in arizona frequently. look at margins in arizona, just the right percentages the president needs. there is no doubt in my mind he will win georgia. certainly winning north carolina. i think he has a shot in nevada. it comes down to the big 10 particularly in pennsylvania. that is exactly why many of the democrat officials don't want the public and certainly not the media lookin

elizabeth: yes. there's still not seeing in the court cases, the truth or any evidence of and refusing to allege grand fraud allegations in the court cases are intimate they're saying and oppressive friends and were going to say, and we want to move onto this point were digging into that hunter biden on her birthday. were digging into government documents. the former business partner gave new information to senator chuck grassley and ron johnson same. the banana newburyport showing hunter fighting personally was working more closely and realized china's big energy conglomerates. it's a russian state backed energy company. why was a biden present son getting involved in geopolitical energy deals to adversarial countries. this could move the oil markets for the u.s. is a ship in the energy sector . is just one of the questions. what you think. guest: yes, there are a dozen issues here that doesn't tens of violations, is in fact that they have been engaged in not only just selling me access to the vice

elizabeth: yeah. we've been reading through the footnotes of these polls and we're trying to figure out how the polls are potentially underestimating how significant the shy, silent trump voter is. they don't want to be identified because they have been harassed. they have been screamed at. the "real clear politics" average of 10 polls for the battleground states, biden is up more than three points in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. that same "real clear politics" average showed hillary clinton winning all three of those states in 2016 when trump won them. we continue to question as critics are too, what is going on with the polls. charles cook of the cook report said hidden shy voter for biden is the college educated suburban woman. that is who he thinks is the biden silent voter. what do you think? >> well, i mean, i guess, we don't like to call them a shy trump voter. the better way to describe it would be take a hike trump voter. our people will not report to pollsters. these are polls paid for

elizabeth: yeah. move on to this one, media and democrats trying to politicize speedy covid-19 vaccines. watch first of joy reid of msnbc falsely claim moderna and us pfizer did not participate in "operation warp speed." combined, got $4 billion from it. >> the companies themselves producing these vaccines were not involved in "operation warp speed." said as much so that is a lie. elizabeth: that is not a lie. referring to pfizer saying they didn't get research money. they got money to distribute it. and for other things. then you have new york state governor cuomo saying the reasons why the vaccine development is moving so fast, is quote ego and money. that the first drug company has the vaccine, that is the big money. you don't need to tell trump that. he had nothing to do with that. really about ego and money, is that a fair assessment? >> let me go back to joy reid first, what she said was a lie. not just money defies her couple million dollars, $1.95 billion that was for vaccine delivery. moderna

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i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" joins us right now. ♪. elizabeth: okay. let's go right at it with me on the phone right now is mick mulvaney. he is former white house chief of staff. mick, always great to have you back on the show. mick, are you advising the president to concede? are you telling anyone close to president trump he should concede? >> absolutely not. i have not talked to the president the last couple days. i talked to other folks at the white house. no, i'm giving them the same advice hillary clinton gave joe biden, there is no reason to concede. al gore waited 37 days. he fully litigated the matter in 2000. that is exactly what the trump team should be and is doing right now. there is no reason to concede. it doesn't have any bearing anyway. the results are going to be what the results are. concessions are some of our practices so forth, the history, not really binding. it doesn't make any difference. joe biden could concede tonight. if he wins it wouldn't make any difference. no, concession is one of the things a lot of people in the left-

elizabeth: okay. that was twitter's ceo jack dorsey today, admitting yeah, twitter did censor the "new york post" hunter biden story without substantial justification. welcome back to the show congressman kelly armstrong of house judiciary. you know, when you heard this, what was your first reaction? we hear the kind of wonky speak but them saying yeah, we did it. what were your thoughts when you heard that? >> two things, what i heard was we didn't want to run it so we need an excuse not to run it. when they said yeah, what is a mistake, what is left unsaid, daring congress what are you going to do about it? and we should do something about it. elizabeth: you wonder if you're going to get around to yanking their legal liability shield from third party lawsuits, beg your pardon, lawsuits from third party content. jason chaffetz talked about ftc lawsuits. we don't know where that is headed. it was a striking admission, right? this is a story not going away with the hunter biden story. senators ron john

elizabeth: okay. let's welcome back to the show house judiciary ranking republ elizabeth: let's welcome back to the showhouse judiciary rankingg republican jim jordan, congressman it's great to see you, your reaction when you heard, it's good to see what did you think of fired fbi official andrew mccabe admitting that he would not have signed off on the fisa wiretap of the trump campaign given what he knows now about the fbi abuse that meant just by terrorists, that's what james comey and sally yates are saying after the fact, what are your thoughts? they did not say that for the last four years, he's been out there saying trump pressure collusion and he's been on cnn talking about as well, maybe he's figured outut the truth but they can about this for four years they told us the steele dossier was credible, anyone that looks at that nose the story in the national enquirer has more truth than t the steele dossier he's finally came around to the truth but he hasn't said that for four years and what the

elizabeth: okay. the real hero there was the guy who's trying to sign language it during that fight. he is the rear her now. that guy. let's move onto this in. the democrat side going to pull politicized the covenant vaccine. let's watch msnbc falsely learned trent say moderna and pfizer could not consider operation warp speed and they got more than $4 billion for it. watch this space to back the company some cells produce vaccine were not involved in operation work speed up to has said is much it that's a lie. >> that is not a lie but she might be referred desperate resulting devises and they did not get researched mine but they got money to distribute to it and other things. then you have governor cuomo saying the reason he vaccine development is moving so fast is quote ego and money, that the first drug company has the vaccine has big money. you don't need to tell trump that he had nothing to do with it. it's really about ego and money, is that a fair assessment? >> let me go back dejoy read first.

into the head having nothing to do with elizabeth warren, but the fact that she is a senator and the governor of our state i a republican. messenger you get to. steph, on this pushing for a post in the biden administration , the bernie sanders one struck me as a little odd and the labor secretary post i could see that in the interest of a lot of people the progressive part of the party would love that as they would in elizabeth warren at treasury. the trouble with elizabeth warren at treasury is that the republican governor of massachusetts would appoint a replacement and most likely it would not be a democrat. >> exactly. if you're looking at the two of them, bernie sanders is really

[heartbeat] >> i am a mental patient at saint elizabeth hospital in washington, d.c. for ages, people like us have been hidden in darkness, families do not like to talk about their members in mental hospitals. people seem to think there is something worse about the mentally ill than being ill with pneumonia. well, it is not true and because it is not true, tonight mental patients all over the country are gathering together to strip away that darkness. now you can see me and in a moment, you will see others like me. you will learn from us how mental patients used to be treated. the conditions of our hospitals today and the new hope that we have no to get well again. -- now to get well again. let's take the first part, how we used to be treated. i am standing on a stage, behind me, my fellow patients at saint elizabeth's our celebrating our centennial. they are performing a play written by ourselves. it is about our founder, dorothea dix, who lived back when lincoln did and fought for better treatment for people like us. each person in the play is a mental patient, each

behind me, my fellow patients at saint elizabeth's are celebrating our centennial. they are performing a play written by ourselves. it is about our founder, dorothy lynn dix who lived back when lincoln did and fought for better treatment for people like us. each person in the play is a mental patient. each one and his doctor and guardian gave his permission better able tobe understand the president by being able to understand the past. mental patients like us doing a play for the public. anything like that is a astonishing on off today but it could never have happened 100 years ago when dorothea lynn mission sundays go on went to visit a jail outside of boston. ♪ >> shall wade try the second verse and this time -- shall we try the second verse? and this time come everyone saying. -- and this time, everyone s ing. [screaming] they able to join us? >>, on out of there. on out of there. what a horrible sight. these people are half naked. they look starved and utterly helpless. >> don't let them fool you, miss. this is just their feeding time. might as well get to it

ati am a mental patient saint elizabeth hospital in washington, d.c. for ages, people like us have been hidden in darkness, families do not like to talk about their members in mental hospitals. people seem to think there is something worse about the mentally ill than being ill with pneumonia. well, it is not true and because it is not true, tonight mental patients all over the country are gathering together to strip away that darkness. and in aan see me moment, you will see others like me. you will learn from us how mental patients used to be treated. the conditions of our hospitals today and the new hope that we have no to get well again. let's take the first part, how we used to be treated. i am standing on a stage, behind me, my fellow patients at saint elizabeth's our seller rating our centennial. they are performing a play written by ourselves. founder, -- who lived back when lincoln did and fought for better treatment for people like us. each person in the play is a mental patient, each one and his doctor and his guardian gave his formation -- pe

lucretia mott first met elizabeth katy stanton in 1840. elizabeth katy stanton was younger than her, 22 years younger than her. and when they met, they met in sort of unlikely place, which was at the world's anti-slavery convention in london, england in 1840. so you have, you know, two americans meeting in london. and they -- you know, they had other connections. but lucretia mott was there as a delegate from various american anti-slavery society. so she was officially there to attend the worlds anti-slavery convention. elizabeth katy stanton was there on her honeymoon, just married an abolitionist named henry stanton, it was a european tour versus a political journey as it was for lucretia mott but the two women, i think, instantly connected and elizabeth katy stanton later described lucretia mott as a revelation of womanhood, i had never met a woman like this before and i didn't know it was possible for women to be so outspoken and independent so she really became an admirer of lucretia mott. elizabeth katy stanton referred to lucretia m

she first met elizabeth cady stanton in 1840 and elizabeth cady stanton was younger than her. she was 22 years younger than her. and when they met, they met in sort of unlikely place which was at the world's antislavery convention in london england in 1840. you have two americans meeting in london. and they -- they had other connections. but lucretia mott was there as a delegate from various american antislavery societies. so she was officially there to attend the world's antislavery convention. elizabeth cady stanton was there on her honeymoon. she had just married an abolitionist named harry stanton. but the two women, i think, instantly connected and elizabeth cady stanton later described lucretia mott as a revelation of womanhood. i had never met a woman like this before and i didn't know that it was possible for women to be so outspoken and independent. so she really became an admirer of lucretia mott. elizabeth cady stanton referred to lucretia mott as the moving spirit of the seneca falls convention. but it was a label that lucretia mott rejected. she said, oh, no, eliz

ali, did you know that hope has portrayed elizabeth? >> elizabeth rosary is a freed black woman who lived in williamsburg, a mother of two daughters, caroline, and also a property owner. so someone who did quite well for herself. >> think you so much hope. lidia, she was legally enslaved -- one of the delegates who attended the constitutional convention. this is behind, us and this interpretation, it's 1787, we find lidia in her home sharing some important news with elizabeth. be known until all met by this presence, that williamsburg, do emancipate and set free my -- women, lidia. under my hand and seal the 20th day of august, my lord. [laughs] good day. i am lidia. and i'm a free woman. oh elizabeth. i don't know mauve where my emotions will go this week. my mood is swinging between eight ocean and despair, i have yearned for freedom ever since i learned i was a sleeve. as you will know elizabeth, the path to freedom for one born a slave is very difficult, almost impossible. a guinness, lucy, tell me if they're planted joined the brit

i will always love elizabeth. she's always in my heart, and once all this is over, and we hope to see change, i will take elizabeth back into my memory. i will claim my daughter from what we've had to go through. she's been sullied by the lies and the cover—up, and i would like her back. anne dixon there, ending that report with michael buchanan. in scotland the first minister nicola sturgeon has said there are decisions she deeply regrets in the response to the pandemic. she pointed in particular to the delay in introducing regular testing in care homes in scotland. in an interview with the bbc, the first minister was also asked about her intentions regarding another referendum on independence. she spoke to our scotland editor sarah smith. thanks forjoining us again today. almost every day, nicola sturgeon appears on tv, answering questions about coronavirus. maybe that's why polls suggest voters trust her handling of the pandemic more than boris johnson's. but she admits she's made mistakes, and there are less

, elizabeth stanton does what so many of us do at that time in our lives. she goes to take care of her grandchildren, goes to england to take care of her grandchildren and help her daughter who needs a little bit of help so she can pursue her writing and reform concerns. while in the, i don't know, four or five years since elizabeth stanton was there, she makes connections with british sufficient w suffragists or renews connections with british suffragists, that she had made in 1840, and her daughter, so for instance, that's how her daughter meets the pankursts whose father was an important liberal politician. it's that link through elizabeth stanton that lays the basis for the continuing link between british and american suffragists. >> that daughter must be harriet stanton blach, you have written about her. here's a question from katherine loper, can you share your thoughts on popular mainstream resistance in the early 20th century. >> resistance, did you say? >> yes. >> well, there's no question that there was tremendous amounts of sexism in the society.

elizabeth cady stanton was there on her honeymoon. she had just married an abolitionist named henry stanton. for her it was more of a european tour than a political journey for her. but the two women instantly connected. elizabeth cady stanton later described lucretia as a revelation of womanhood. she said i did not know it was possible for women to be so outspoken and independent. she really became an admirer of lucretia mott. she referred to her as the moving spirit of the seneca falls convention of 1848. it was a label lucretia mott rejected. she said elizabeth, you should claim that for yourself. but the fact was, it was the fact that lucretia mott was in the area that the convention was held and her presence was advertised to draw attendees. she would come up to this part of the country regularly to central new york. when she came up in 1848, she was engaged in a number of activities. she attended an annual quaker meeting. the genesee early meeting. she traveled to ontario, canada, to visit former slaves, american slaves who had

i will always love elizabeth. she's always in my heart and once all this is over and we hope to see change, i will take elizabeth back into my memory. i will claim my daughter from what we've had to go through. she's been sullied by the lies and the cover—up and i would like her back. michael buchanan, bbc news, hampshire. it's always the way — the day after chancellor rishi suna k‘s spending review, the economists have been looking at the small print. the independent institute for financial studies has raised some concerns. 0ur economics editor, faisal islam, is here. so, faisal islam, is here. what exactly has the institutt been so, what exactly has the institute been saying, faisal? and of that public sector pay freeze, in particular, after accounting for inflation, that £250 pay rise at the lowest end, they have said, accounts after inflation, in real terms, as a pay cut for those earning above £18,000, so effectively more people than we may have thought. a related issue from the same freeze is for tea

a desire to listen i want to bring in elizabeth i think ahead elizabeth the day lida strategy it is something that is extraordinary to watch when you are not american like i am and to think well this is happening in the united states but it's working and that republicans who are going to continue donald trump stress you whether he's in power or not because it's working it's getting votes do you think that 7 to change. one of the things that we have seen you know a pretty high correlation of people who support donald trump to people who are also quite comfortable with authoritarianism and people who are threatened by real forms of democracy which means all people across you know racial gender religious spectrum exercising power and so given how strong the correlations are between trump and authoritarianism and even the way in which he he galvanizes that kind of authoritarianism among people right as we see a lot of his supporters say they're not even interested in term limits they're happy to have him be president for life they kind of worship everything that he threatens i do think

>> yes, with elizabeth keys case. one of her points was also that she had been baptized as christian. in 1667, we see a lot past that baptism does not alter a person's status, bond or free. in addition to elizabeth key, there were other people. that is something that should be pointed out. black people were still very active in trying to use the legal system at this time. i don't want this 17th, but into the 18th century. now this line 1667 is closing another window. you still continue to see and slaved people being baptized in parishes closest to us here in williamsburg, and in other parishes. but oftentimes this usually becomes a way to keep track on a slaved person. at least another law, the classification of enslaved people from the very beginning has always been that of property. if you are indentured or if you are in apprentice, you have certain rights by virtue of being recognized as human in the eyes of the law. but from the very beginning, enslaved people are never recognized as human beings. >> thank you for