tell us how the board looks for economic recovery because of the many industries that pegasystems touches? you said in the earnings call that financial services, government, telecom, health care continue to be stronger. how does the recovery look globally >> well, we see that digital transformation is needed now more than ever a lot of organizations have been sort of, i think, well, stumbling through the last year trying to make the best with what they have and they now understand that it's time for them to really rethink the way they engage with customers and get work done and reduce complexity. >> what's happening with spending, though, because for so many governments revenue is less certain than it was in the past, but there's a need for transformation, as you mentioned, because there's so much digital inquiry necessity to inquire of the data to make decisions. so how is that balancing out >> well, the great news is our technology tends to have a very, very quick payback so that an organization, being the commercial organization or a government, can put the technology in and immediatel