dod is assisting with soldiers. they are also supporting down through the federal qualified health centers and community -- and community vaccination centers with support. with that, i have to pass to my colleague, senator. >> thank you. obviously dod's role has increased. under the biden administration. that is what i heard you say. does someone else want to give me a short response? >> yes senator. it has increased. the federal vaccine centers that he just alluded to, we have established 20 california, texas, and are getting ready to establish one's in florida and pennsylvania. these are called pipe one centers. they're able to provide 6000 shots a day. secretary austen was out in california at our first site in l.a., where they are doing that. we have 4000 military personnel prepared to support these sites. we will be working very closely with fema and the states going forward with where those sites will be established. >> that is going to be necessary, because we are looking at vaccinating a population of three

but these are factors that gao would not determine for dod, that dod should determine. it is interesting, dod did identify the military community as well as leadership as domains that they needed risk factors for. but they have not followed through from the documentation that we have reviewed. sen. hirono: i am running out of time. i have to confirm that if the military identifies risk factors based on evidence that they will then try to minimize these risk factors, correct? ms. farrell: i am sorry, say that again please? sen. hirono: if the military identifies risk factors in these particular domains, that would enable them to minimize those risk factors? ms. farrell: that is correct. sen. hirono: if you even identify them, then there you go. so can you think of any other example where congress and ask 249 statutory changes over 17 years to address a problem, and here we are, 17 years later, and there seems to be little progress being made? can you think of any other situation where this is the case? ms. farrell: we are looking at the extent to which they have implemen

public affairs is the lead within dod for countering propaganda that affect u.s. military objectives. public affairs leads the department's efforts for foreign audiences of adversary's attempts to manipulate belaifr in this domain. dod efforts to engage foreign audiences overseas support the department of states lead to inform foreign audiences. next force protection. our soldiers, airmen, guardians, civilians and their family are part of the american public directly targeted by maligned actors, disinformation. this is a critical force protection issue. the military services are proactive. enabling the force to recognize deceptive information tactics, developing digital literacy and deploying critical -- third countering disinformation abroad. at dod we draw upon operational and informational capabilities such as military dplrks mis oh to generate narratives to compete against disinformation efforts directed at foreign audiences. these dod capabilities can complement existing themes and messages to inform audiences that cannot be reached through traditional commun

dod views this as a critical force protection issue. the military forces are proactive in building resilience against these threats. developing digit at literacy and employing critical thinking skills are a few key measures. third, counter disinformation abroad. at d.o.d. we also draw upon operational informational capabilities such as military information support operations, often better known by its act ro -- its acronym miso, for efforts to directed against foreign awe -- foreign audiences. these dod capabilities can amplify existing teams and messages to inform audiences that cannot be reached through traditional communications channels. at d.o.d. we pursue a comprehensive and deliberate approach, working in close consultation with states to connect with audiences globally in real time and to build communications that foreign audiences trust. working in close consultation again with state to connect with audiences globally in realtime and to build communications that foreign audiences trust. knowledge and trust by foreign audiences

government partners to determine if they anticipated a need for any dod or d.c. national guard support related to the planned protests. on 31 december the commander general of d.c. national guard received a letter from the d.c. government requesting national guard support for the d.c. metro police at 30 traffic control points and six metro stations. and to make available the d.c. national guard civil support team to support the d.c. fire and emergency services. over the weekend of january 2nd and 3rd my staff contacted the secret service, the park police, the marshall service, the fbi, the capitol police to determine if they plan to request dod assistance. none of these law enforcement agencies indicated a need for dod or d.c. national guard support. after consultation with the department of justice, the acting secretary of defense approved the d.c. government request for national guard personnel to support 30 traffic control points and six metro stations from january 5th to the 6th. the acting secretary also authorized a 40-person quick reaction force to be read

what exactly, you know, is your vision within the dod on ai education? metaphor needs a coder, and everyone needs to be writing the software but my idea is the should at least understand the weapon they are using, whether it's in electronic or software weapon or hardware weapon the weapon some else is using against us. what is the vision of the commission when you came up with these recommendations? [inaudible] >> microphone. >> it was a recognition that the next major conflict will likely not be on the ground but it would be ai inspired. so you're right, from headquarters to the tactical edge it's how we phrase it. i really embrace that. we have to be ai ready. we have to be ai trained. those who protect us shouldn't that digital foundation. those who excel in computational thinking within the ranks they should be identified and supportive. it's a shame we are losing that talent, and they should be able to advance. we need up skill within the ranks. junior officers from the beginning need to be trained and ai concepts, and the need to continually be edu

and i think that's the dod's job. roger: one follow-up to that. as it relates to the orientation of china, president biden, in really his first speech on foreign-policy policy and national security at a competitor security conference, he said "america is back, diplomacy is back, allies are back." almost signaling that diplomacy will be emphasized over the military as a tool to confront our national security challenges. secretary esper, is that the right signal to beijing? he was speaking to allies, but as far as beijing is concerned, is it diplomacy first with military behind? sec. esper: let me first say that america never really left the stage. i know i spent a lot of times working with allies and partners. i did two meetings with indian partners with multiple sessions. we never left in terms of engaging our allies and partners. in terms of how you interpret the remarks, i think we should leave it to diplomacy. that is what we want to sell to our diplomats. the way you do that is you have a strong military. if diplomacy fails, the adversary know

second i do not know what the dod as purchase from us. i do not know how long the logs will go back for services we provide to the dod. rep. porter: mr. smith, do you have a toaster? mr. smith: i certainly do. rep. porter: when you use that toaster, do you expect it get fired. mr. smith: i do not. rep. porter: imagine you were selling toasters and you knew the toasters you were selling were going to explode one day. it was a matter of when, not if, but you sold those toasters anyway. what would happen to the company you were running who sold those toasters? mr. smith: we are not talking about toasters but i would not want to work at a toaster company we knew were going to -- who showed toasters we knew were going to explode one day. rep. porter: you know by ability they are legally liable if they sell a product knowing the likelihood it will become defective or does not have all the necessary safety features, for example. why should microsoft -- or should microsoft be held to a similar liability standard, maybe not strict liability but at

dod continues to support efforts to protect the safety and security of the u.s. capitol and provide support to our civilian law enforcement partners. from january 9 through the inauguration, dod provided nearly 25,000 national guard personnel to support security in washington, d.c. today there are approximately 4,900 national guard personnel supporting capitol police and 500 supporting the metropolitan police. going forward, the department of defense is committed to working closely with our federal, state and local law enforcement partners, the d.c. government and the congress to ensure that we learn from this event and take all necessary actions to respond and ensure an attack on our nation's capitol never happens again. chairman peters, chairwoman klobuchar, ranking members portman and blunt, distinguished members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today. thank you for your continued commitment and support to the men and women of the department of defense. >> miss smislova, you're now recognized for your opening statement. >>

and dod in particular has made some very good progress over the past couple years. we are adding two areas any reference that one of federalor efforts to prevent and respond and recover from drug misuse from 2002 through 2019 coming hundred thousand americans lost their lives to drug anoverdose. may 19 and 20 is the highest recorded annual increase according to preliminary data of 80000 people on an annual basis. we need greater national leadership and coordination among federal a agencies state and local partners in the private sector and healthcare industry and law enforcement community as well. it is a multifaceted issue. sixty-seven open recommendations that need to be fulfilled. and the other area, the emergency loan programs created for sba, paycheck protection program and the economic injury disaster loan programs. they have been very important components helping small businesses. i don't want to take anything away from the positive impact they have had, but they are far short of transparency and accountability goals. we made recommendations back in june, thr

that's a dod support infrastructure. so they actually reduced office space warehouse space, they were able to get rid of some properties portman they wereie a pbig part of the government efforts that were able to receive progress in that area. and they reduced their leasing cost and they've struck deals with local governments not support services that have reduce their cost and we felt they were in good shape and they've also promised to implement our recommendations of congress and authorize in a base closure round so very pleased with that. and dod in particular has made some very good, very good progress over to past couple of years. now we are adding two areas and portman you ran first the one which is on federal efforts to prevent, respond to and recover from drug misuse. since 2002 to 2019, 800,000 americans lost their lives to drug overdose. and the may 19th to may 20 period is highest recorded annual increase according to preliminary data from 80,000 people on annual basis. we need greater national leadership, co

none of these law enforcement agencies indicated a need for dod support. after consultation with the department of justice, the acting secretary of defense approved the d.c. government request for national guard personnel to support 30 traffic control points and six metro stations from january 5 to january 6. the acting secretary also authorized a 40-person quick reaction force to be readied at joint base andrews. on january 5 the acting secretary of defense and the secretary of the army received a letter from the mayor of d.c. stating, mpd is prepared and coordinated with its federal partners, namely the park polo -- park police, capitol police, and secret service. based on these communications with federal and local civilian authorities, dod determined that no additional military support was required on january 5 and january 6. dod has detailed the events of january 6, 2021. in a memorandum published on defense.gov. i will provide a summary of those key events. after the u.s. capitol police ordered the evacuation of the capital complex, the secretary of

for the budget, a 10% cut to dod would be devastating. that doesn't mean dod doesn't get a lot of money every year because it does come it is 3.2% of our gdp and if you're going to be a world leader you at least that much to lead the world to build the alliances to conduct the exercises and the training too have the military. now we are in five domains can also ino cyberspace and space n ways we werect not even five yes ago. 10% would be devastating. i go back to the recommendations of the nds commission, national defense strategy commission. that is, we need three to 5% annual annual real growth. that's not asking for too much when you look at what we face in the years ahead and would look at the defense budget as a share of the broader budget. china is increasingd its defene spending in some cases 10% or more every single year, double digits, a be the last years it's been in the high single digits but they're at a heady pace and have a game plan that they want to modernize the military by 2035 and have a world-class military which we in

one of dod -- january 6, 2021. dod frequently purrs -- provides the support at events like the presidential and gratian and state of the union addresses. due to the unique nature of the district of columbia, exercising of numerous traditional authorities, ensuring the safety is the response ability of the d.c. government, the secret service, the park police, the marshals service, the capitol police, federal protective service and other civilian law enforcement organizations. dod provides support to these civilian law enforcement agencies when requested based on their assessment of the support required. prior to the attack on january 6, dod worked closely with federal law enforcement, d.c. government partners to determine if they anticipated a neat for any d.c. national guard support related to the protest. the d.c. national guard received a letter from the d.c. government requesting national guard support for the d.c. metro police at 30 traffic control points and six metro stations and to make available the d.c. na

in the world with regard to dod. that's the substantive policy debate to have. i don't support that but it's a substantive -- all this obsession over is it 750 or 733. the dod and those of us who are charged with the oversight of it, we need to figure out how to actually spend the money intelligently instead of getting into fights over how much it is we're spending, and really get me started on 500 ship navy. >> i was about you, but maybe -- i'll give you a menu of topics that may be you can choose, you've alluded to most of them already but maybe if you want to dive in more deeply on one or two. .. what we're trying to accomplish and our goals are shifting in that way do we need an army of that size ? i don't know the answer to that question but it's the type of questions we need to ask if were going to try to figure out how to get the most out of your money and perhaps the reserve and active mix with an army, is that another area we should look at? >> i think the idea of -- this is another reason i don't want to get into a cold war with china. what made us suc

that doesn't mean the dod doesn't get a lot of money every year, 3.2% of our gdp. if you are going to be a world leader, you need at least that much to lead the world to build the alliances, conduct the exercises and training to have the military. we are in five domains, also in cyberspace in ways we mark five years ago. 10% would be devastating. i go back to the recommendations of the national defense strategy commission, we need 3% to 5% growth. that is not asking too much when you look at what we face in the years ahead and when we look at the defense budget as the share of the broader budget. china is increasing its defense spending in some cases 10% or more, maybe last year in the high single digits, but a pretty heavy pace, they have a game plan they want to mobilize their military by 2025 and have a world-class military, which we interpret as displacing us by 2049. we need to update and modernize our military and need to make that investment. secretary panetta knows best that we face budgetary headwinds . our debt is $18 trillion, the highest it has been as

so what about non- dod spending? last year the president requested in congress provided an increase of funding for the national nuclear security administration. why do you think they needed such a big increase? >> they are facing the same challenges the department of defense faces with a nuclear complex. and since the end of the cold war and modernizing it and at the same time it has to be more not just the warheads but all the scientific work that comes with certifying increasingly aging arsenal. and another thing to keep in mind is the budgets that have been committed on behalf is what is needed for modernization. look at the rejections for future spending that is included with each budget and then to consider for example a requirement for the and an essay. and it has been there a long time. as part ofre the modernization commitment that president obama made in connection with the new start treaty in 2010 and we knew the and an essay would need to do it. at the end of the obama administration and the early part of

but you're all we've got in terms of talking to dod today. in your opinion, did the attack on the capitol constitute a last resort? >> last resort, you mean an immediate response. >> remember, in the letter it said only as a last resort. do you think last resort situation occurred when there was an attack on the capitol? >> there was certainly a last resort situation that occurred, senator. >> so why did it take the department of defense so long to authorize the use of the national guard in particular, the use of the qfr? >> senator, i can relay what i've obtained from my discussions with the personnel that were involved that day. if you'd like to go through with the timeline or just answer the question based on why the decision makers, in this case secretary mccarthy -- secretary mccarthy, if we go through the timeline, clearly at 2:22, as has been mentioned today, secretary mccarthy at 2:30 as i pointed out in my oral statement, went down and sourced secretary miller at 2:30. at 3:04, secretary miller made the decision to mobilize the entir

dod continues to support efforts the safety and security of the u.s. capitol and provides support to our civilian law enforcement partners. from january 9 through the inauguration dod provided nearly 25,000 national guard personnel to support security in washington, d.c. today there are approximately 5,900 national guard personnel supporting the capitol police and 500 supporting the metropolitan police. going forward, the department of defense is committed to working closely with our federal, state and local law enforcement partners. the d.c. government and the congress to ensure that we learn from this event and take all necessary actions to respond and ensure an attack on our nation's capitol never happens again. chairman peters, chairwoman klobuchar, ranking member portman and blunt, distinguished members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today. and thank you for your continued commitment and support to the men and women of the department of defense. >> ms. smislova, you're now recognized for your opening statemen

it just means that dod had agreed to essentially turn them on as a potential quick reaction force. i think the other thing that's becoming increasingly clear as the testimony continues here, these senators are going to end up wanting to hear from the former secretary of the army here and possibly even the former secretary of defense. the witness provided by dod today just can't really match up with the decisionmaking process that so frustrated general walker and his ability to respond more forcefully on that day. so good answers being provided here today and lots of new questions coming forward about what was going on at the pentagon. general walker and chief sund and others were trying to figure out the fastest possible way to get help to the capitol. >> pete, another thing that general walker has just testified to was the difference between june 1st, when they were facing a black lives matter protest around the white house and lafayette park, and general milley involved, william barez. it was almost instantaneous. different powers took place when they were trying to can get help

what about non-dod spending? last year the president requested an congress provided a significant increase in funding for the national nuclear security administration. why do you think the nnsa needed such a big increase? sen. fischer: they are facing the same challenges the department of defense faces. you have a nuclear complex that is old, and really since the end of the cold war, we have delayed and deferred modernizing it. same time, it is being asked to do more, not just extending the lives of warheads but also the scientific work that comes with certifying our increasingly aging arsenal to make sure it is effective. one other thing to keep in mind is the budgets submitted on behalf of the nnsa, i think they have struggled to reflect what is needed for modernization. when you look at the projections that is included with each budget submission, they have left out a lot of activities. consider, for example, a production requirement for the nnsa to reduce the production in plutonium pits. it has been there lo

it admits that dod is facing a threat from domestic extremists. "extremists with military experience are a concern for national security." and that white order and -- white nationalism poses a threat within the military. experts i talked to say the pentagon has never examined extremism enough to know whether it actually has a problem and that the report used outside investigators simply because the pentagon does not have data on this. forcing the services to stand down for a day so that commanders could discuss extremism and collect intelligence. senior military officials have simply failed to tackle this problem in the past. judy: a lot going on in washington today. thank you both for keeping us up-to-date. stephani i am stephanie sy at newshour west. we'll return to judy woodruff and the full program after the latest headlines. president biden denounced decisions some state leaders are making to loosen covid restrictions. republican governors in texas and mississippi lifted mask mandates on tuesday. at the white house, mr. biden said it's a big

steps to execute this is incumbent on the biden administration to complete this with resources with the dod and national nuclear security administration. the other thing i will add someone in the u.s. should adopt the no first use soul purpose policy this is a misguided and alternately dangerous position it is not supported by our allies in europe or in the pacific or artificially limits our ability to credible deterrent capability. i cannot afford to miss an opportunity in the audience to speak about something they care a lot about. that space force that something that affects every american whether they realize it or not if we can harness the innovation of this commercial sector we can make sure we outpace our competitors in the domain and that's what this is all about thank you for being here with you i look forward to the q&a and i move over to that position. >> thank you for those remarks and be the first time ever you see publicly outside the hearing room said to become ranking member you thought too comfortable in the role. >> figure been working for for long-term. >> i know you have

we often, when it comes to congress and omb as well, look at the traditional spending of dod. you need a new submarine or a new ip system? well, we probably need both but it tends to not be the jazzy is thing that can be sold in the halls of congress so you certainly have my commitment to work with you and i certainly depend on it because this is the least we owe the american people to ensure we can show these agencies clean financial audit. >> you got only eight seconds left. for decades, tax regulation generally skips the review process other agencies had to follow in submitting significant regulations to the office of information and regulatory affairs at omb for review. this changed in 2018 and the treasury department at omb entered into an agreement to subject significant tax regulations for review. you expect the biden administration to maintain that agreement? >> i expect we will use this modernizing, to review and that will be one of the things i love to work with your staff on this issue and make sure we are getting your concerns as we look at this review process. >>

significant that was given to an american woman for the work that we have done with sport support from dod, european government and the asian development bank. the importance of this is as the interactive peace talks are continuing, it's the afghan women who really are at a cross roads. it's critically or that we uphold them in these discussions so the presentation of this inaugural peace awards shows the sincerity to uphold the rights of women. >> now if there is a peace treaty signed, tell us what you would be able to do. i know you're ready to go to expand your efforts. >> roots of peace began its work in afghanistan in 2003. it was a generous gift gift gif diane disney mill per. afghanistan is the most heavily mind country in the world. so as we began our pilot program north of kabul through the eradication of the mines we then went in and trained the farmers to grow high value crops and in particular the grapes were restored on these former war torn lands. we expanded to planting over 5 million fruit trees in 35 provinces. over time it took time for trees to bear fruit, apples, aprico

one of the things we talked about is whether or not dod should and can eliminate the distinction which allows service members to be passive members of groups that many people would consider to be extremist groups, like oath keepers, some of the white supremacist organizations. what do you think about that? do you think they can do that, and should that? -- should they? rep. smith: yes, they should. it is a very difficult thing to wait into, and i think our hearing brought that out. i will get to the backend difficulty in a moment. the reason i think it is important to engage in this effort is because we have seen a significant rise in right-wing extremist groups, the capitol was the example we all see. you have a lot of antigovernment, white nationalist, white supremacist groups. and there is evidence, i think 20% of the people were arrested had ties to the military, either current or past. you go, huh, maybe we have a problem here. the republican position has been as long as you are not advocating violence against the government you are good. i think that is a little bit too low of a

the defense department official who is representing dod who is getting squeezed here trying to defend their policies say it was only after all of the actions over the course of the summer that dod realized they needed to reign in some of the ways in which troops from the national guard were being used in protest situations around the country. a major discrepancy there. some people will point out the difference between these. democrats are trying to point out the wide disparities in the way in which the department of defense felt it was necessary to respond to these two events. >> garrett, standby. i want to talk to you in a moment with the stimulus checks. >>> frank, of course, former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence. now an msnbc national security analyst. frank, i know you have been listening to this hearing nonstop. what has stood out to you most so far, especially with regard to the time line for deploying the national guard? >> craig, we are finally getting some of the really difficult questions answered, which is that we are hearing word of multiple failures in bur

this and discussions within the biden administration among the key figures in the white house, cia, dod, state department. one question to which i do not know the answer is where on that spectrum is the president, as obviously the most important figure. so, to conclude, my view i guess i would say so far, so good. the administration is not panicking. it isn't givinghe sanctions relf merely to get iran to come back to the table. they may have made some missteps in yemen but they are speaking now about helping saudi arabia. they are trying to keep the e3 close to us, which is a useful thing to do so again, so far so good. i will leave it there so we have time for discussion. >> the team has some questions. it's good to hear your optimistic take. so far so good. you said it's not 2015. would you say that the air on advisers that were there in 2015 have learned something and that there is a different attitude than there was five, six years ago? >> you said it was nice to hear me optimistic. these are people with extremely high intelligence. none of them have read the intelligence before fou

. >> reporter: senators repeatedly ask the senior dod official why the pentagon handcuffed the d.c. national guard and responded so slowly. the official admitted what many senior officials admitted to me at the time, that the military didn't want to get a repeat or didn't want to get dragged into suppressing protests as it did back in june when the protests were black lives matter protestos. the military also points out the d.c. national guard simply isn't designed to respond so quickly. but other senators point out, judy, the military did get dragged into the june protests by trump's detractors, but stayed away somehow when the protestors were pro-trump. >> woodruff: and in connection with all this, nick, there were questions today about extremism inside the u.s. military, and the defense department issued a report about that today. tell us about that. >> reporter: yeah, the pentagon made public this report and it made some disturbing admissions. it admits dod is facing a threat from domestic extremists, quote individuals with extremist affiliations are a concern to u.s. national s

vaccinations if you go inside, you would see that the majority of these people inside arl workers, dod workers they're here with one goal, to get the vaccination into the arms of more individuals i had an exclusive interview with someone from fema they said they're using all kinds of data to decide where they're going put these sites. they've spent $4 billion so far to stand up similar sites to this all the way across the country like the bronx for people who may have a hard time getting to their vaccination sites and who are also at risk of contracting covid, and when they contract co-virkd getting it worse than anyone else. you can see a lot of diverse faces, a lot of elderly. this is an attempt to take some of the race that you see out there regarding racial disparities and turn it around. >> thank you. >>> the u.s. senate is expecting to take up a sweeping police reform bill named after george floyd as minneapolis braces for the most anticipated police murder trial in memory here's nnbc's gabe gutierrez. >> the bill passed in the house but only needed some republican votes to pass

it's just got to be readily accessible. >> can i ask you if communication with the dod will be readily improved, because it won't be the trump department of defense, they won't have to worry so much with the optics of things? >> yeah, i think -- yes, that will get fixed. i think there's a quick answer as to empower during an emergency the d.c. national guard. so it's almost like a preapproval or an emergency situation where you don't have to go through that garbage that we went through on january 6 where you literally have the secretary of the army running down the hall to talk to the secretary of defense to get approval while the capitol is getting stormed. so that's going to get fixed as well. it's very comprehensive. i think the american people should be very proud of the work product that general honore is putting forward for us. >> i'm having to pick between ohioans right now. my cleveland based executive producers say we've got to go. sorry, i've got to go. you next time, i promise. thank you so much. >>> well, surviving covid, prayers answered. a woman who pleaded for help on ou

the dod even issued a news release attacking us. >> reporter: on his show this week, carlson ridiculed president biden for saying the military is making better efforts to accommodate women in uniform including new flight suits for pregnant military members. >> so we've got new hairstyles and maternity flight suits, pregnant women are going to fight our wars. it's a mockery of the u.s. military. while china's military becomes more masculine as it's assembled the world's largest navy, our military needs to become as joe biden says more feminine, whatever feminine means anymore. >> reporter: the backlash from military officials was immediate. >> what we absolutely won't do is take personnel advice from a talk show host. >> reporter: sergeant major of the army michael grinston tweeting, quote, women lead our most lethal units with character. tey will dominate any future battlefield we're called to fight on and senator tammy duckworth, a war veteran, tweeted, quote, expletive, tucker carlson. while he was practicing his two-step, america's female warriors were hunting down al qaeda. >> sinc

we're recruiting from a pool of 150,000, which every other dod school is going after, which makes it very difficult. >> thank you. you got any comments on that? >> the marketing and recruiting is a very challenging program for all the services, especially in this environment. and where historically i think that there was a belief that as the economy gets worse, recruiting will get better. i don't think the services are necessarily seeing that correlation at this point, because the understanding is that the divide has grown, so young adults today don't understand military service and the opportunities that it provides, and are not exposed to it because of the military being much more closed because of security reasons. so there is a number of different factors, i think, going on today that have an adverse impact on services' ability to recruit from across country, that continues to do it well in certain areas of the country. >> i think the military is a great point in terms of continued education. 50% of kids that go to four-year schools don't need to go. they need to go to the milita

it's also important to remember when dod first made a comment they did not know that general charles flynn was on the call. they only mentioned later, and they didn't recall whether he said anything. there's nobody somewhere that close to essentially an ex-three-star general calling for martial law should be anywhere near the decision about whether or not to apply military forces onto the nation's capitol. >> should general flynn's brother charles flynn have recused himself from the chain of command that day? >> well, i think recusal works in a number of different ways and organizations. in many ways i think there's ethics officials who can advice you on that, but look, there was clearly a concern about the optics. we can't talk about the events without going back to the summer, and the fact of the matter is that president trump's abuse, along with the attorney general, his abu of federal law enforcement, hi abuse of the military and quelling those demonstrations played a direct role not response and the hesitation to respond. you saw all these past secretaries of defense lining up t

i totally agree in terms of the court cases the fcc case against facebook in terms of the dod case against google that will take so long, 70 years but in terms of forward motion on legislation i think this is the time for it and democrats can see that opportunity. >> host: ashley gold. >> yeah, i would echo what everyone has said here. i spoke to the chairman of the house judicial chairman and he said he's planning to more hearings in addition to the one we are seeing today and one will focus on news media antitrust issues which is something we are seeing play out in australia right now and he's paying close attention to that and then we will see and take a look at how they can update antitrust law to determine and in addition to looking to update the laws we already have on the books they will also be looking at new forms of legislation so there is quite a bit that we could be looking at now. while there is agreement there is not total agreement so i still think it will be difficult to get antitrust bills over the line in congress but not impossible. >> host: when you talk about news medi

among the key figures in the white house, cia, dod, state department. one question as to which i do not know the answer is, where on that spectrum is the president? he's obviously the most important figure. so to conclude, my view i i gs i would say, so far so good the administration is not panicking at what iran is doing in an effort for that. it is not getting sanctions relief merely to get iran to come back to the table. they may have made some missteps in yemen but they are speaking out more and more about helping defend saudi arabia. they're trying to keep the e3 close to us, which is a useful thing to do. again, i would say so far so good. i guess leave it at that's t some time for discussion. h >> -- so that we have some time for discussion. >> over to you, mr. pipes, to ask some questions. >> trying to make myself visible. okay, good. thank you so much, elliot, and thank you, stacey. it's good to hear you're optimistic take, so far so good. you said it's not 2015. would you say that the iran advisors who were there in 2015 and are back now that

over. >> congressman, we're getting fantastic support from the army and dod in this space. today we have vaccinated just over 4,000 at west point. that's not the corps of cadets. that's as rich laid out the framework, our first responders, and folks in vulnerable populations. i have 4,400 cadets here but writ large about 8,000 in the community and such. so we are on path. rich laid it out in terms of when it's available, we'll do it. as you know, we're under emergency use so we cannot mandate but, sir, we have very high -- the cadets want this vaccination. it's well over 90% that are going to, so when we get it, when it's available, i'm confident that we will be vaccinated here at the united states military academy and contribute to army readiness as we go forward. >> the congressman, i have the same schema, dod schema. it's slow and steady. we went after the same prioritization as general clark articulated to you. i've given my navy a timeline for when i need to have the midshipmen vaccinated because the way we do our summer training is i will send the vast majority of mid