i'm joined by cofounder jake sherman at we are pleased to take part in a three-part virtual series focused on joe biden's first 100 days. a big sponsor to edelman for sponsoring these events and making them possible. we want to bring you closer to a key decision-maker in joe biden's washington and tonight we are joined by white house chief of staff ron klain to discuss the covid relief package, what is next on the agenda, and more. after our conversation with ron klain, lisa ross will join us for a fireside chat. a reminder, we would love you to share insights on twitter and we will take your question, so feel free to tweet us @punchbowl news. jake: thank you for joining us. congress is about to pass in the next 24 hours the $1.9 trillion american rescue plan, arp, trying to set the tone for the recovery. would have you learned about congress in these last less that 90 days since you have taken office? ron: we have learned congress can do big things to help this country. that is what the american rescue plan is, a massive rescue plan to beat the fires and get our economy. we spent a year f

joining me now is jake sherman. we're going to put on the screen who will now be eligible. so why did senate democrats decide to do this? >> joe manchin runs the senate and that's the reality of today's government. that's the 5050 barely majority that chuck schumer has. any change, the moderate wing of the democratic party could tighten up these stimlouse mamts. that did not happen, but listen when you're in an bill that republicans are not expected to tort -- support in large measure. not saying he is out of the main stream by and large, but when he says something leaders need to pay attention to it and likely need to cater to it. >> was had going to he was concerned about these provisions. he said i have all sorts of complaints, but you can't take that risk and i'm sure he did have conversations with chuck schumer and the white house behind the scenes and changing the bill. from our conversations i was just down at a house vote a couple minutes ago. the democrats, leading democrats, don't seem particularly worked up about this change. this is still a large bill with check

otherwise, we're going with it. >> donna edwards, jake sherman -- did you want to say something, jake? >> yeah, they did have -- listen, i don't want to -- i'm not trying to defend republicans or democrats here. just to be clear, they did have a group of republicans did have a proposal. it was nowhere near what the white house wanted, and they rejected it out of hand, which, you know, that's kind of politics and that's governing. so there was one trade of a proposal. i just want to make that clear but it was a nonstarter with the white house. it was way less than what democrats wanted. >> and i -- to be fair, i do remember that meeting. i think senator portman and susan collins were part of it and there wasn't a policy disagreement. it was about being very, very, very small. donna edwards, jake sherman, heidi przybyla, thank you. >>> when we return, the rollout of the third coronavirus vaccine comes at a precarious moment in our country's fight against the pandemic. the head of the cdc warning that the progress we've made against infections may be leveling out. that story's next. >>>

joining us now, jake sherman, founder of punch bowl news and msnbc political contributor. also with us, frank figliuzzi, former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence and olivia troye, former senior aide to mike pence on the coronavirus task force as well as an advisor on homeland security and counterterrorism. she's now the director of the republican accountability project. olivia, you worked with mike pence. when you hear president trump say there was zero threat, that there were people hugging and kissing police officers, you know what mike pence went through on that day. what runs through your mind as you hear the words of the former president? >> well, i hear the words, hang mike pence. and i think about that noose that was sitting outside the capitol, and i think about how the fear that his family felt that day and i think about the fear that everyone in that capitol building felt that way and just the fact that donald trump continues to double down on yet another lie and now he's flipping it on its head, right? but this is so classic donald trump, and what h

punch bowl news' jake sherman, thank you very much. we appreciate it. >>> let's go to the border where there are new concerns about another potential humanitarian crisis. two sources confirm to nbc news that more than 3,200 unaccompanied migrant children are in border patrol custody. that number is a record. nearly half of the children have been held beyond the three-day legal limit, some in holding cells that aren't designed for kids. and according to a source, nearly 170 of these children are under the age of 13. "the new york times" was first to report the number of detained children, and the paper, citing international customs and border patrol documents -- internal, excuse me, internal customs and border patrol documents, reported that the number has tripled in the last two weeks. homeland security secretary alejandro ma lorekas led officials to the border to tour the facilities. white house officials plan to brief president biden about what they have found. >>> all right, still ahead here, the very latest in the investigation int

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joining us now, the co-founder of punch bowl news, jake sherman. he is also an msnbc political contributor. jake, it's great to see you. we've got nominations on the one hand and this covid bill on the other hand. and of course, when it comes to covid, the question is, can mitch mcconnell keep all of this is democrats together to actually get this over the finish line? looks like they may be working over the weekend to get that done. what's your latest reporting on that balancing act because there is so much pressure from progressives to try to keep the minimum wage in that bill, as we mentioned? >> good morning, kasie. well, i think there is very little chance of the minimum wage ending up in the bill, virtually no chance, because bernie sanders is suggesting that democrats ignore the parliamentarian's ruling, which is not going to happen. the white house has said they're not interested in that. and senate democratic leaders have not shown any interest in ignoring the parliamentarian's ruling, which says the minimum wage can't end up in this covid

joining us now, co-founder of punch bowl news, jake sherman. he is an msnbc political contributor. jake, good morning. we've got a tough morning of news here, and i want to start with what's happened out in boulder, colorado. it's really too early to know some of the details that will ultimately drive the policy conversation around this, because we don't know what kind of weapon was used, we don't know how it was obtained, whether it was legal or illegal. but certainly, gun safety, gun control measures are something that many democrats were already talking about. this is the second mass shooting in a single week here in america. democrats have said they're going to put a bill to require background checks to buy a gun on the senate floor. how does what's unfolded over this past week affect what we may see in terms of those votes or any action at all coming from washington? >> so, kasie, good morning. i think that any gun control measure is going to face opposition and an uphill battle if the filibuster's still in place, and that's just the sad reality for gun control advocates. by t

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joining haake, jake sherman, and ashley parker. so everybody, welcome. they're still voting right now. we know it's not final until the gavel comes down. i'm looking at at least one democrat that is voting against the bill. >> house democratic leaders thought they would lose at least one. they lost two on the house's version of the bill, but that is probably all of the drama that we're going to have in this. the majority leader said he did not expect any republicans to cross over and vote on this bill. we know that the the votes to do this. they will have to continue to work on that child tax care credit in place. this is the end of this project on sending off this bill, but not the end of the things that it will launch which will be very far reaching. >> we see house members going in. i saw nancy pelosi. just put this all in perspective for us. a $1.9 trillion bill 50 days into joe biden's presidency passed along a party line vote. >> a lot of things to unpack there, katy. some house members are voting by proxy. peep read off how others are voting into

based news service she created with jake sherman. and general barry mcaffry, former battlefield commander in the gulf and a former cabinet member, member of the national security council. he retired as a four-star general in the u.s. army. and indeed, general, i'd like to begin with you tonight given the subject of that hearing today. why do you reckon there was a delay of 3 hours and 19 minutes to get our ready guard and reserve up to the hill? why do you reckon the secretary of the army was unavailable that day when called? >> well, first of all, the shameful failure of security in an obviously threatening situation, and it's astonishing to me the guard wasn't called up days prior. you know, eventually we ended up with 25,000 guardsmen in washington coming as far away as hawaii. this is the most competent disciplined national guard in the country's history. they should have been on site in significant numbers much prior to the day of the trump inspired and summoned mob that sacked the capitol. i think we're also watching the normal

based news service she created with jake sherman. and general barry mccaffrey, former battlefield commander in the gulf and a former cabinet member, member of the national security council. he retired as a four-star general in the u.s. army. and indeed, general, i'd like to begin with you tonight given the subject of that hearing today. why do you reckon there was a delay of 3 hours and 19 minutes to get our ready guard and reserve up to the hill? why do you reckon the secretary of the army was unavailable that day when called? >> well, first of all, the shameful failure of security in an obviously threatening situation, and it's astonishing to me the guard wasn't called up days prior. you know, eventually we ended up with 25,000 guardsmen in washington coming as far away as hawaii. this is the most competent disciplined national guard in the country's history. they should have been on site in significant numbers much prior to the day of the trump inspired and summoned mob that sacked the capitol. i think we're also watching the norm

you and jake sherman had a chat with the white house chief of staff. here's what he had to say to you guys. >> we've had republicans at the white house and the house and the senate tell us that they also share if not exactly the same way to do it an idea that we need to do something big on infrastructure and i'm cautiously optimistic to find a path forward on infrastructure that is substantial and bipartisan. >> the key words there cautiously optimistic. president biden trying to find a way forward with republicans on this relief package. he got nowhere getting that support. are republicans as optimistic on infrastructure as ron klain was last night? >> i think that there's a lot of hesitancy in there terms of trying to think about republicans and democrats come together. infrastructure is a lot of things to different people. you can be sure that democrats are going to want to spend a lot of money, maybe another trillion dollars, on infrastructure which will go to the realm of green jobs, electric grid. so while there is certainly different priorities

sherman points out, control of the senate is tight as a tick. and joe manchin runs the place. that said, it allows democrats to sort one of the most problematic issues, clearing the way for democratic unity. they'll need it, considering democrats face an obstinate republican party. republicans led by senator ron johnson will use a number of procedural moves to delay the final passage by days or even weeks. joining me now is katie porter of california, member of the house oversight committee and former deputy chief of staff to senator harry reid and author of "kill switch," a must read. congresswoman, let me go to you first. this delay, ron johnson went on a right-wing radio show and said he's going to make senators read the entire bill out. it could be up to days. they're going to try a lot of tricks. you have constituents who i'm sure need this money, need this relief. put for us what does this mean for real people, the delay? >> for real people, this is every minute, every hour, it means people are going hungry. it means they're getting furthe

phil rucker, jason furman, jake sherman, and jim acina. he ran obama's 2012 campaign, worked in that white house and he's currently ceo of the mecina group. you first, mr. furman, we'll start with the huge job numbers, what do they tell you about where the country is headed and does it concern you it could give some lawmakers pause about moving forward on such a big stimulus bill? >> stephanie, it should not give lawmakers pause. in fact, it should encourage them about the importance of doing even more. we are 11.9 million jobs short of the trend we are on before the pandemic. at the pace that we created jobs in february we would have to wait 4 1/2 years for this economy to get back to where it's going. we're going to need something more like a million jobs a month. the second thing to know is that we passed a stimulus measure in december, $900 billion, part of what we saw in january and february is people did spend that money. that did support jobs in the leisure and hospitality section -- sector and part of why we're getting where we're

. >> let's bring in co-founder of punchbowl news, jake sherman. so jake, i'm just wondering, with mitch mcconnell, is he taking a page out of the art of war when you're weak, appear strong? he's talking about burning the entire place down to the ground if democrats do what they have the power to do? or do you really think that this is going to be some sort of legislative armageddon if democrats go ahead and make some exceptions to the filibuster? >> can i say both might be true? i think that mitch mcconnell will make life hell for democrats if they end the filibuster, well within their rights and abilities to do. i think there's no question about that. i do want to say that joe biden is slightly misremembering his history with the filibuster because when he came into the senate, the big reform frankly was that there was the talking filibuster was not in place, it was taken away so the senate could conduct its business at the same time as the filibuster. so with the talking filibuster actually less gets done depending on how it's structured. but mi

jake sherman, i think the last time any republicans voted for tax increase in congress probably you would have to go back to george h.w. bush's budget deal, which some of the conservatives bolted from, then of course bill clinton raised taxes in '93. no republicans voted for those taxes. and they took control of congress the next year for the first time in 40 years. i just don't see republicans voting for any tax increases. doesn't mean that's the right position to take. doesn't mean that maybe some of those trump tax cuts that went to the super wealthy should be clawed back, but do you hear of any republicans considering voting for an infrastructure bill that raises taxes on anybody? >> no. there's literally no chance that any republicans are going to vote for this. and that's fine. there's nothing wrong with the white house going it alone, but we need to be honest here about what's going to happen. they're going to play the game and there's nothing wrong with this game again but they're going to reach out to republicans and they're going to try to get them on board, but republicans are

i'm joined by jake sherman. and we are thrilled to kick off a three-part virtual event series focused on joe biden's first 100 days. a big thank you to edelman for making these events possible. we want to bring you closer to a key decision-maker in washington. tonight, we will be joined by ron klain to discuss the president's relief package, what is next, and much more. after our conversation, lisa ross will join us for a fireside chat. we would love you to share insight or big moments on twitter. we will also take questions, so feel free to tweet us with any questions. let's welcome ron klain. ron: thank you for having me. jake: thank you for joining us, mr. chief of staff. we will give you a quick 15 seconds, or more, if we are feeling generous. the congress is about to pass the $1.9 trillion american relief or rescue plan. trying to set the tone for recovery. what have you learned about congress in these less than 90 days that the president has taken office? ron: it can do big things to help the country. that

sherman who said that mcconnell said in kentucky that president biden called him yesterday to brief him on the infrastructure plan the president and the white house chief of staff pointed to something that is very popular in public opinion polls, not touching the taxes of anything making less than $400,000. this is again, annie karney, a well-conceived roll-out. >> it is there is really two theories of the case that will be clashing that's where the fight over this legislation will play out. the biden team thinking they have some running room he's only proposing to undo the -- back to 28% it's not something that voters will feel or notice in their paychecks, so they feel they have a lot of taxes they can do that won't affect the popularity of this plan republicans think that they would love to run against democrats saying they raised taxes after the pandemic we'll see who wins that fight. the other problem is that, you know, this white house is trying to make a big bipartisan push on this bill, unlike the relief bill where they had we have to get this done, biden said, you know, i'm