catherine: yes, the images of vietnam, the famous picture of a vietnam -- viet cong is in her being shot. it remains as a very strong pictures of vietnam, had a number of others. they hit people. it was the first time vietnam was covered, the way it was. looking back at it, it was new media, we had access to it. you have to hurry up to photograph the world because it is closing, you can't see anymore. carrie: it's closing. catherine: very much so. it's very hard to go and photograph. they put you on the bus, and they want you to shoot propaganda. vietnam was not the case, you could go anywhere you wanted. carrie: olivia washington, good morning. host: i wanted to say that the media has been able to stay in vietnam after the north took over. i really believe the american people were seeing after what really happened, i know people who are against the war might have changed their minds, i believe that with all of my heart. i believe we did have a purpose there, and if we would've had more, it would've helped. catherine: it's very interesting that all of the media left, the american media a