this is big, david seagate. remember them? dell upgrade. i think this is where they're going. these stocks are not expensive relative to their friends like caterpillar. and i think these are unbelievable software and hardware pieces, and they're going to stay strong all day because they're based on survey, and carl, wall street loves survey research. of course everybody likes the evidence lab from ubs. >> as david know, the piper team survey, man they squeeze a lot of product out of that research. >> do they call your kids, david? do they call your kids do you use the switch? what do they say >> i don't know. >> who are they surveying? do they go to the mall if you're at an american eagle outfitters, and they ask you, do you go to the american eagle outfitters, isn't it like yes? i mean what are they doing that's the one thing that i want more on the team poll. i'll tell you this, though it's been right. >> it's been right. >> guys, i want to get back to technology i want to move to what is more of a special situation this morning. >> i'll let you think about it and david, it'