and hayes brown, a writer and editor for msnbc daily. good to see all of you. hayes, let me start with you and white house press secretary jen psaki responding on thursday to criticisms from south carolina's governor and others. here is part of what she said. >> the failure to provide accurate public health information, including the efficacy of vaccines and the accessibility of them to people across the country including south carolina, is literally killing people. this is not federal employees going door to door. this is grassroots volunteers. this is members of the clergy. >> hayes, what do you make of the response to the white house's efforts and of the white house's response to the response to its efforts? >> the response in the first place is is baffling. i mean, the way that they're trying to gin this up as some sort of deeper cabalian plot to force people to get vaccines, that's really not the case. it's literally, like jen psaki said, it's people knocking on your door saying, are you vaccinated, if not, would you like to get one, let us help you get on

jenny yang, brandy zadrozny and hayes brown. let me start with you, jenny. >> it is completely unjust what has happened to sha'carri richardson. first of all, we need to understand that rules are not neutral, and if anything this week showed that, you know, with the international swimming federation's ruling about natural hair swim caps not being allowed, that we still have a long way to go to dismantle systemic racism. so that's number one. number two, if thc was a performance-enhancing drug, then willie nelson would be an olympian. what are we even talking about, guys? this is ridiculous to me. >> see, now, that image will never not haunt me, the idea of willie nelson just hurdled, pole vaulting. like i understand what you are getting at though, but i don't think that's why they consider it a performance-enhancing drug. i think because it can have analgesic qualities, have mood altering qualities, can calm you down. that i think is the rationale why it is on the list of something that could affect your performance. >> sure, su

. >>> joining me now is msnbc daily writer and editor hayes brown. hayes, a big welcome back to the broadcast. i'm curious your reaction, this overnight reaction here to president biden firing the head of the social security administration. what do you think this means for the future of the agency, at least during this administration? >> well, i mean honestly i am not too surprised that this is happening because the biden administration has been very clear that they don't want to just blanket fire trump appointees in positions like the social security administration. they want to wait usually, to have a reason behind it. that's why they explained this firing as mostly because he basically endangered the workers in the social security administration by cancelling telework and other actions that the employees of the social security administration felt were a problem during a pandemic. so as far as the administration, i don't know exactly what will happen in terms of what will happen monday morning. it is going to be a surprise for everyone. i really do

we're back with betsy woodruff swan and hayes brown. hayes, when you zoom out and argue the gop is doing three main things. redrawing the borders of the battleground states, making the electorates smaller, throwing out results they don't like, they have always done the first two, they just used to do them on the dl. how is their transparency about what it is they're doing and how they're doing it change the way democrats respond? >> this is donald trump's greatest gift to the republican party, the idea that the base doesn't care about democracy, they care about winning and having their guy in office. so his big lie after the election that he actually won, that biden had somewhat manipulated the country and he was an illegitimate president, that idea has taken root inside the republican party. republican leadership is unwilling to push back on that. so that has really shifted the way that democrats should be thinking about how elections are working moving forward. like you said, redrawing border lines, gerrymandering has been a thing sin

msnbc daily writer hayes brown and columnist for "the new york times," nicholas kristof. catch me tomorrow morning from 8:00 to 10:00 a.m. eastern and tomorrow we will dive into the climate crisis with secretary pete buttigieg and a group of oregon locals and the true story of the city of portland. you heard the narrative about violence and anarchy. spoiler alert. it's not the full picture. i'm going to try to get my producer to take me to a store here in portland. shoe not go anywhere. because the cross connection with tiffany cross begins right now. >>> we keep hearing like democracy, and democrats need to act like it and i still don't think they're acting like it. i'm glad president biden said something about it. we're not still moving enough, and still being delusional and why does he think that to save people, who are clearly devoted to the president, would ever act for the john lewis voting rights act? >> good morning, we have a lot to cover on the cross connection but we begin, with as you just saw, charlemagne, the guy who spoke with so many people who officially

kicking us off, hayes brown, writer and editor, the former hud secretary, julian castro. he's an msnbc political contributor. and hear litman. he's a legal affairs columnist for "the legal times." we're going to talk about trump's response in the insurrection. what sticks out to you? and does the new reporting expose the former president to more criminal liability? >> it seems that the most sensational stuff has unhinged and taxic as can be. but for criminal liability, there's a crime out there. we know about it. what has to happen for trump to have liability, is for him to be connected with it. the excerpts that we've gotten so far, we have some of -- the prosecutors' eye, but the -- more about complete crazed president and less about an act -- >> i think a lot of us felt. we had a pretty full picture. hayes, you write this week about your frustration with the political tell-all books. people are speaking out now about the dangers of trump's final months in office. how critical would it have been if we had known the information six months ago? >> i think extremely critic

kicking us off this hour, hayes brown, former hud secretary and 2020 democratic presidential candidate julian castro, and former u.s. attorney harry litman, a legal affairs columnist for the "l.a. times." harry, i'm going to start with the new information we're learning about trump's response to the insurrection in these new books. what sticks out to you, and does any of the new reporting expose the former president to even more criminal liability? >> well, it seems to me, alicia, that the most sensational stuff portrays him as completely unhinged, isolated, as unpresidential and dangerous and toxic as can be. but for criminal liability, remember, there's a crime out there we know about, and what has to happen for trump to have liability is for him to be connected with it as a conspirator or even a mastermind. so at least the excerpts we've gotten so far from these three terrific books tend to portray him more as a madman and less as a criminal. the real highlights to date are more about the complete -- [ inaudible ] >> which i think a lot of us felt we already had a full picture of. h

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megan, hayes brown writes for msnbc daily. he wrote, time and again the political creatures in trump's orbit kept silent until it was too late to do anything. i'm still fuming over former national security adviser john bolton's decision not to testify in trump's first impeachment trial only to confirm that all the charges against trump were true in his tell-all book which was released over a year later. similarly, it seems like maybe, just maybe, a lot of the information provided off the record in these books might have been useful for senators in the second impeachment trial. on the flip side, we're seeing gop lawmakers like kevin mccarthy once again embrace trump after criticizing his role in the insurrection. how does the pro-democracy wing of the gop, if there still is one, fight against this complicity and at worst fight back against those whitewashing january 6, megan? >> to these books specifically, there's a couple of interesting things about them and their timing. this most recent book you referenced titled "i alone c

chair hayes: thank you so much for that testimony. i will now move to ms. brown for your testimony. when you are ready, please unmute and begin. ms. brown: thank you for the opportunity to share minnesota's experience. i first want to share with you the words of minnesotans who have turned to snap. in the words of zoe, i get up every morning and provide for my daughter. more you work, the more everything goes up. if we try to make the amount of money you just boosted up, why is it we lose food stamps because of it? another parent echoed that saying, it is like the government handicaps you so you are stuck in that part-time job. their words underscore some of the important points. zoe and jojo work. that makes them very typical working age snap recipients. almost 75% of the nondisabled working age adults turning to snap in minnesota are employed or recently lost a job. the majority of workers who rely on snap to supplement low wages or get them through a spell of unemployment are concentrated in cointreau industries. retail, hotel and restaurants, health care and social services and

thank you so much, cari champion and latosha brown. i'm way over. i will see you tomorrow for "the cross connection" my guests including joaquin castro and christine plaskett. "all in" with chris hayes. >>> tonight on "all in." >> it is time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. it is the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down. >> a governor who made vaccine passport's illegal lashes out at the unvaccinated. tonight the backlash politics standing in the way of vaccination, and how the vaccine fight today echos the seatbelt fight of the '80s. >> i oppose it on the basis that it replaces the free will of the individuals with the desires of the state. >>> then the accused foreign agent from the former president's inner circle out of jail on a $250 million bond. >>> plus -- >> can we really believe that their patent pending system, we can bring sexy back to construction? >> the guy who sunk $30 million into building trump's wall now looking for a buyer. >>> a big moment in baseball as the cleveland guardians step up to the

thank you so much, cari champion and latosha brown. i'm way over. i will see you tomorrow for "the cross connection" my guests including joaquin castro and christine plaskett. "all in" with chris hayes. >>> tonight on "all in." >> it is time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. it is the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down. >> a