south africa is facing its deepest political crisis of the post—apartheid era. its deepest political crisis after days of violence and looting which saw more than 200 people killed and thousands arrested, president ramaphosa claimed there'd been a well—planned attempt to provoke insurrection and bring down the democratic state. whatever the truth of that, it's clear the social and economic fabric of the country has been badly weakened. my guest is transport minister fikile mbalula. is the ruling anc being confronted with its own failure? fikile mbalula in cape town, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me, and to all your listeners. it's a pleasure to have you on the show. tell me, minister, how would you characterise the shocking, the terrible violence that swept across parts of your country last week? it was a hyped—up... ..accumulation of anarchy at the highest level, as you know that anarchy is the higher state of disorder, and then it exhibited opportunistic elements like criminality, as a result of the unemployed, you know, jumping into the bandwagon of looting. becaus

locations as you would call it in south africa. so that's because so that's a good topic, right? all those locations don't the black locations look just like they were 7 years ago . that is a simple issue that obviously people feel like they obviously are economically stable. they take care of the, the land that they're in. asha such a delight to talk to you. you can tell your love and pride for the country that you live in, and we will chat again in the future. thanks for joining. thank you. the investigation by a global media consortium has revealed that malware developed by an israeli company has been used by on journalist human rights activists and political dissidents around the world. now there's this program called pegasus software. we're sold by our surveillance company and so group. and they said to tap into hundreds of devices, revealing personal information of those who were targeted. are huge alex, my hell of edge has the story. it can be described as a military grade spying tool software that covertly worms its way int

what is happening right now in south africa? is this a political problem or is it an economic problem? well, in fact, there, they are multiple dimensions to the stories. so there isn't necessarily one side that is absolutely correct or accurate south africa, since independent has been experiencing protests on quite a regular basis. back to some referred to south africa, the protest capital of the world, particularly around service delivery. so this is nothing new. what is new is the scale and the scope and the beach of the product, which is spread across 2 provinces at least, and potentially more going forward. so that is really the cracks of the budget. there, there are different dimensions to this. and at the core of it though, i would say both floyd and one got me, i've got the right analysis, the social economic inequality that can be traced quite far back to the the legacy of apartheid and racialized exclusion and the, in the ability to put it bluntly open up the governing body the and see to in fact, turn around a situatio

what does that mean for south africa as a country? i mean, the and see has been the dominant ruling policy for so long. you know, i mean the same as it is now has been 2 parties, essentially, into one. now press enter a port that has been trying to hold a 2 parties together in his unity policy. now what has happened the last 2 weeks is your nose from now on was this is, are because we, amc, it cannot hold to groups together anymore. so i think, you know, even jacobs, my group or whatever you want to call them, it will be very difficult for them now to return back into the you except the amc. and then 2nd of all that the links, i think we get to see a splits and it is now in the triple. i mean it has been post further and further if it's supposed to happen perhaps before. because the thing about a symbol is what makes it effective and what maybe a successful in the race improvement is that he was a broad coalition, you know, ranging from boxes to capitalist, to decent. now when you get into government, you know, you have to have a set

into locations as you recall it in south africa. so that because so that's a good topic, right? all those locations, we don't want the black locations look just like they were 7 years ago. that is not an issue that obviously people feel like they obviously are economically stable . they take care of the, the land that they're in, such a delight to talk to you. you can tell your love and pride for the country that you live in, and we will chat again in the future. thanks for joining it says, i think the investigation by a global media consortium has revealed that malware developed by an israeli company has been used to found journalists, human rights activists, and political dissidents around the world. now there's this program called pegasus software, was sold by our surveillance company and so group. and they said to tap into hundreds of devices revealing personal information of those who were targeted. are huge alex, my hell of edge has the story. it can be described as a military grade spying tool software that covertly worms its

all joining us from johannesburg in south africa, lindiwe zulu is south africa's minister of social development. william gumede is executive chairperson of democracy works foundation. and kwandiwe kondlo is professor of political economy in the department of politics and international relations at the university of johannesburg. welcome to you all. if i could start with william, are the protests, the looting, is it all over now, or just taking a break? how do you see it, william? william: it does seem that, although late, the army is there, the police is there, and the situation has been stabilized. but it does appear that there is still some threat circulating across the country, in groups that jacob zuma supported, they intend to try another attempt at a popular kind of uprising. but for now, it seems stabilized. the police is there. they are visible. the army is there. they are visible. and i think people feel a little bit more reassured than a couple of days ago. sami: all right, so stable for now, but zuma's forces may give it another go. lindiwe, has ramaphosa survived the challenge of so

what is happening right now in south africa? is this a political problem, or is it an economic problem? well, in fact, there, they are multiple dimensions to the stories. so there isn't necessarily one side that is absolutely correct or accurate south africa, since independent has been experiencing protests on quite a regular basis back to some referred to south africa, the protest capitol of the world, particularly around service delivery. so this is nothing new. what is new is the scale and the scope and the beach of the products. we just spread across 2 provinces at least, and potentially more going forward. so that is really the cracks of the budget there, different dimensions to this. and at the core of it though, i would say both floyd and i've got the right analysis of the social economic inequality that can be traced quite far back to the the legacy of apartheid and a racialized exclusion and the inability to put it bluntly open, open governing body, the n c 2 in fact, turned around the situation into 20 to 7 years of it

what is happening right now in south africa? is this a political problem, or is it an economic problem? well, there, there are multiple dimensions to the story. so there isn't necessarily one side that is absolutely correct or accurate south africa since independence has been experiencing protests on quite a regular basis, back to some referred to south africa, the protest capitol of the world, particularly around service delivery. so this is nothing new. what is new is the scale and the scope and the beach of the products. we just spread across 2 provinces at least, and potentially more going forward. so that is really the crux of the budget. there are different dimensions to this. and at the core of it though, i would say both floyd and barney, i've got the right analysis of the social economic inequality that can be traced quite far back to the the legacy of apartheid and a racialized exclusion and the, in the ability to put it bluntly open open governing body. the n c 2 in fact, turn around the situation into 227 here with g

in south africa you all there to help support the health ministry of south africa. why would another adult to say that the health system was being overwhelmed? are you seeing that too? yes. festival. let me say that the indeed the data variant is really spreading quite a lot and he does become the dominant variant about his driving the same with but we have good provincial differences the, the, the, the biggest ups h we, the video and of course is, is in house team, they have the progress is also increasing. but at this row at 8 and i have not reached yet the state where our team has reached. ah, indeed you now take, there has been as easy hit 15 as being overwhelmed in terms of the number of patients required in care. this situation was most oh, of course we did of 8 and coming in which is either transmissible. this situation is as a result of that, by just to comment on the issue of via the vaccines as well. yes, it has been a delay in terms of the the out of the vaccine. unfortunately, few a few challenges with the bitter variant area on when some of the local st

in south africa. you are there to help support the health ministry of south africa. why would another adult to say that the health system was being overwhelmed? are you seeing that too? yes. festival. let me say that the indeed the data variant is really spreading quite a lot and he does become the dominant variant about his driving the same with but we have good provincial differences. the, the, the biggest ups h we, the data variant of course is, is in house team. the other provinces are also increasing. but at this row at 8 and i have not reached yet, the state we're taking has reached indeed the hotel. there has been as easy his system as been overwhelmed in terms of the number of patients required in care. this situation was most oh, of course we did a read and coming in which is either transmissible. this situation is as a result of that. but just to comment on the issue over the vaccines as well. yes, there's been a delay in terms of the the out of the vaccine. unfortunately, few a few challenges with the bitter variant area on when some of the local studies h

in south africa. you are there to help support the health ministry of south africa. why would another adult to say that the health system was being overwhelmed? are you seeing that too? yes. first of all, let me say that the indeed the data variant is really spreading quite a lot and he does become the dominant variant about his driving the same with. but we have good provincial differences. the, the, the, the biggest ups h we, the data variant of course is, is in how ting the other provinces are also increasing. but destroy it have not reached yet the state where our tech has reached. indeed, in how tank there has been as easy have system as been overwhelmed in terms of the number of patients required in care. this situation was most oh, of course we did a read and coming in which is either transmissible. distortion is as a result of that, but just to comment on the issue of via the vaccines as well. yes. so there's been a delay in terms of the the out of the vaccine. unfortunately, few a few challenges with the bitter variant area on when some of the local studies

cuba and south africa have something in common. the political organisation that brought the changes still in charge. let's talk about south africa first. president zuma, who had been convicted of contempt of court. but there are clearly bigger forces at work here. what is your sense of what is driving these protests? an extraordinary confluence of events, a power strugglej within the ruling anc with all the latent dissatisfaction - of a really bad economic experience, massive - unemployment, huge inequality, poverty, l plus, the ever—presence of covid _ shocking rates of cases - and very low vaccination rates. let's be clear, the reports. coming out of south africa, it is very clear now that there | was an attempt by supporters ofjacob zuma, in various ways, to try and destabilise _ the government. so, some of it was organised? no, no, a lot- of it was organised. it hasn'tjust been shopping - centres that have been attacked and looted, it's also been specific oil refineries, - hospitals, specific economic routes where lorries - h

into locations as you recall it in south africa. so that's the gift. so that's like a topic, right? all those locations, we don't want the black locations look just like they were 7 years ago. that is a simple issue that obviously people feel like they obviously are economically stable. they take care of the, the land that they're in, such a delight to talk to you. you can tell your love and pride for the country that you live in, and we will chat again to the future. thanks for joining. i thank you. the investigation by a global media consortium has reveal that malware developed by an israeli company has been used by a journalist, human rights activists and political dissidents around the world. now there's this program called pegasus software, was sold by our surveillance company and so group. and they said to tap into hundreds of devices, revealing personal information of those who were targeted. are huge alex, my hell of edge has the story. it can be described as a military grade spying tool software that covertly worms its way

looking from the outside, south africa is a role model. it is quite unsettling to see what is happening. what do you think needs to change? we have heard from the president, his tone has not been conciliatory. what is he going to have to say and do to calm the situation? >> the president has acknowledged the failure. this is not a bashing intervention. the point is it is a watershed moment. the social unrest is not the underlying cause, which suggests the government has to turn in size much more introspectively towards the fact that there are certain social and economic issues that remain unaddressed, when people live in squalor and others live in affluence, you are creating a situation of tension and isis. there is a lot of work in terms of dialogue. we have known them for a while, the institute for reconciliation publishes a barometer that tells you the last 10 years there have been demands from those in lower income groups that the equality has to be addressed. that means government resources. the amounts being dedicated to military and

south africa is facing its deepest political crisis of the post—apartheid era. after days of violence and looting which saw more than 200 people killed and thousands arrested, president ramaphosa claimed there'd been a well—planned attempt to provoke insurrection and bring down the democratic state. whatever the truth of that, it's clear the social and economic fabric of the country has been badly weakened. my guest is transport minister fikile mbalula. is the ruling anc being confronted with its own failure? fikile mbalula in cape town, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me, and to all your listeners. it's a pleasure to have you on the show. tell me, minister, how would you characterise the shocking, the terrible violence that swept across parts of your country last week? it was a hyped—up... ..accumulation of anarchy at the highest level, as you know that anarchy is the higher state of disorder, and then it exhibited opportunistic elements like criminality, as a result of the unemployed, you know, jumping into the bandwagon of looting. because of th

what does that mean for south africa as a country? i mean, the and see has been the dominant ruling policy for so long. you know, i mean the, as it is now has been 2 parties essentially and 21. now, president obama port has been trying to hold a 2 parties together in his unity policy. now what has happened the last 2 weeks is your nose from now on was this is, are because we amc, it cannot hold a 2 groups together anymore. so i think, you know, even jacobs, my group or whatever you want to call them, it will be very difficult for them now to return back into the a you except the amc. and then 2nd of all that the links, i think we get to see a splits on it is now in the triple. i mean it has been post further and further if it's supposed to happen perhaps before. because the thing about a symbol is what makes it effective and what maybe a successful the race improvement is that he was a broad coalition. you know, ranging from boxes to capitalist, traditionally. now when you get into government, you know, you have to have a set how we g

she joins me now from durban in south africa. good evening to you, christine. the events of the past 24 hours. just how much of a surprise have they been branch. nobody expected that. when that convoy raced out of the room as homesteads shortly before midnight on wednesday bass. what would follow? was the confirmation from his supposed people that that was in fact him going to hand himself over to the police better? because jeff days before after weekend on sunday and i was actually outside his home in the, in the problem when you told his supporters that he would not be doing that, that he didn't deserve to be in prison. and that he wouldn't be adding itself in. so it's for me, came as a huge surprise and i came down to the very last minute. it was a very long night or not. it's not i can get who is lou today kind of bring because it just wasn't payable. was going to happen. what we full where police a messing and approaching. i hear homestead and it appears mr. opted to head in. yeah, i mean we're seeing that video there of the convoy last night when he turne

i'm joined by osh off guard at the founder of champion south africa. shaw, thank you so much for joining us. is our thoughts and prayers, and our attention has been on south africa these past few days. as you've been going through these trials, you know, i want to ask you how divided right now are the people in the street? so is it as simple as duma versus ram opposes supporters? no, i think it's it's have too much to suggest that people are divided that we would think of the american football team on opposite sides of the fence out in the streets. i think for the, for the majority of people in africa, they are united in being south african. they are united in one thing works best for their families. they are united in wanting food. they are united in wanting jobs. they may be divided some of them to be divided in certain strategies, but by and large, they've been united by you may tell, okay, well, what happened last week and we get to that 2nd, but i think overall, the country or 60000000 people is there are differences the wants is, but the general

they're all joining us from johannesburg in south africa. linda way zulu is south africa, minister of social development. william good day is the executive chairperson of democracy works. foundation and quandary. way con blow is professor of political economy in the department of politics and international relations at the university of johannesburg. welcome to war. if i could start with william, all the protest, the looting, is it all over now just taking a break, how do you see it, william? it does seem that, you know, or the late, the army said the police. and you know, of such your hasn't, has been stabilize, but he does appear at a store some trend circulating across the country and watch subgroups at jacobs or my supporters. i intend to try another 10 at a popular kind of uprising. but for now, it seems stabilized. selisa stared the visible, the army stayed at visible. and i think people feel a little bit more reassured and a couple of days ago. all right, so stable for now, but zoom is fault is may give it another go. lindy way has ra

south africa township, which is called putting into locations as you would call it in south africa. so that's because so that's a good topic, right. all those locations don't the black locations look just like they were 27 years ago. that is not an issue that obviously people feel like they obviously are economically stable. they take care of the, the land that they're in. asha such a delight to talk to you. you can tell your love and pride for the country that you live in. and we will try to get to the future. thanks for joining. thank you. investigation by a global media consortium has revealed that malware developed by an israeli company has been used by a journalist, human rights activists and political dissidents around the world. now there's this program called pegasus software, was sold by our surveillance company and so group. and they said to tap into hundreds of devices revealing personal information of those who were targeted. are huge alex, my hell of edge has the story. it can be described as a military grade spying tool software that covertly worms its way into your ph

they're all joining us from johannesburg in south africa. linda way zulu in south africa. the minister of social development, william go may day, is the executive chairperson of democracy works. foundation and quandary. way con blow is professor of political economy in the department of politics and international relations at the university of johannesburg. welcome to war. if i could start with william all the protests, the looting, is it all over now just taking a break. how do you see it, william? it does seem that you know, or the late, you know, the army state police and you know, of such a hasn't, has been stabilized. but he does appear at a store some trends circulating across the come soon watch subgroups at jacobs or my supporters. i intend to try another 10 at a popular kind of uprising, but for now it seems stabilized. salisa stared the visible, the army stayed at visible and i think people feel a little bit more reassured and a couple of days ago. all right, so stable for now, but zoom is fault is may give it another go. lindy way has ram opposed to survive the

there _ enough for south africa? 0h, absolutely. there has - enough for south africa? oi, absolutely. there has been policy enough for south africa? oi absolutely. there has been policy to build up the class rather than to build up the class rather than to build up the class rather than to build up economic growth for the whole population of south africa. that has been the focus. that's why the arc since 2003 has a policy called black economic empowerment and affirmative action. it's to promote the black elite or the black middle class into very comfortable positions at the top end of the civil service and within the private sector, within the top management of the private sector. that has been policy and eventually was bound to catch up with the anc government. what do you recommend then? is it a change of political party, how can the country, the people i've been speaking to say they haven't had this fair since apartheid. what needs to happen immediately? weill. this fair since apartheid. what needs to happen immediately? well, i don't see the — needs to happen imm

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in south africa. you are there to help support the health ministry of south africa. why would another adult to say that the health system was being overwhelmed? are you seeing that too? yes. first of all, it me say that the indeed the data variant is really spreading quite a lot and it does become the dominant variant about is driving the same with but we have good provincial differences the, the, the, the, the biggest, upstage we did a video and of course is, is inheriting the other provinces are also increasing, but destroy at 8 and i have not reached yet the state where our team has reached. indeed, in how tank there has been as easy his system as been overwhelmed in terms of the number of patients required in care. this situation was most oh, of course we did have a coming in which is either transmissible. this situation is as a result of that, but just to comment on the issue of via the vaccines as well. yes, it has been a delay in terms of the the out of the vaccine. unfortunately, few a few challenges with the bitter variant area on when some of the local stud

this is an unprecedented move in democratic south africa. so many troops on the ground has not happened since the end of apartheid in 1980. the apartheid government was struggling to wrestle control as the country was going out of control. but at the moment, south africans have been calling for more military to be on the ground in order to restore peace and order. in terms of what we saw in terms of the looting, it was out of control and the police were heavily outnumbered. they were overstretched and could not contain the situation. so the reason why the president has requested to deploy on the streets of south africa is to wrestle back control from the looters and to ensure south africans that he is in control of the country and to ensure that the economy gets bk up on his feet as well. it has been severely hammered in the last couple of days. laura: you're watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight's program, after the remains of more than 1000 indigenous children were found at former residential schools across canada, we

let's stay with south africa now. professor sipho seepe is a political analyst and deputy vice chancellor at the university of zululand. he helped put the scale of these protests and riots into context. 0ne one must understand that south africa is a country where process occur every weekend, almost every day. but they tend to be very isolated. but what we've seen here was what some people see as cordons. it is simply an expression. —— of co—ordinates. by a majority of the people in this country. you just have to look at the unemployment levels. they have skyrocketed to the extent of about 35% of young people who are black or not white. you look at the black rate of unemployment, it's almost 50%. but what we are coming to terms with is that we have so much of the rainbow nations to ourselves... when leaders do not seem to be paying attention to that, people in this country have been taught to go to the states. we are a protesting nation, but where there is a sense that even the institutions should be trusted and

coming up in the next 60 minutes, riots and looting in south africa were process over the rest of a former president have amplified anger, over spiraling poverty and inequality. in iraq, grief stricken families demand answer is after a fire in a corona, virus ward claims more than 90 lives. we're facing the most significant test of our democracy since the civil war. the us president calls moved to restrict the voting rights on the fault on democracy as federal republican faith. try to enact legislation and turning to technology to police. the border a controversial trial begins in greece, ends for roger federer has pulled out of the po. carolyn picks the 13 year old says a knee injury will prevent him from competing in japan. ah, we begin the news that we're in south africa where at least a 72 people have died and saw the countries worse than rest since the nation became a democracy. more than 1200 people have been arrested. the protest started after the jailing of former president jacob juma, but many believe that south africa has battered the economy, is driving the rest. the unemploymen

here's our south africa correspondent nomsa maseko. factory after factory after factory, ransacked and burned by looters. two young men lying dead beside a railway line, 48 hours after they died. this is what six days of looting and rioting in kwazulu—natal and gauteng provinces in south africa looks like. violent protests broke outjust hours after south africa's former president, jacob zuma, was jailed forfailing to comply with a court order to give evidence at a corruption inquiry. however, speculation is rife that even though this may have started out as a pro—zuma protest, it was a well orchestrated plan designed to embarrass the current president, cyril ramaphosa, and to ensure he doesn't get another term in office. but yesterday, amid fear and desperation, a moment of hope. people were screaming, "throw her, throw her, throw her!" and i was scared, i was really scared, but there were people down in the streets. i wasn't. .. they weren't always panicking. i was trusting anyone for my baby, to take my baby away from me, because

then to south africa, where thousands have been arrested in demonstrations against poverty and inequity and the jailing of the former president jacob zuma. >> it is not about zuma. people are hungry. there are no jobs. amy: and we'll look at how the pandemic has affected people going hungry around the world. 1/10 of the global population are undernourished last year. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. another punishing heat wave is set to bring triple-digit temperatures to at least 17 million people in the western united states and canada this weekend as a record wildfire season, fueled by the climate crisis, shows no sign of letting up. in oregon, the massive bootleg fire has burned more than 200,000 acres, over a million acres of the western u.s. and canada now in flames. this is dale kunce, head of the cascades region of the american red cross. >> what we have seen at the red cross is this change from a one big event a year or every five years or 10 years to now chronic events. amy: in northeastern was

what really terrifies me, south africa _ done? what really terrifies me, south africa with _ done? what really terrifies me, south africa with our _ done? what really terrifies me, south africa with our history - south africa with our history of violence, ethnic and racial divisions, and our recent history of xenophobia, these protests could easily take on these trends and become even more dangerous than they are now. especially if vigilantes roam the neighbourhoods, as seems to be happening. they have to be dealt with in terms of a police response. i hope the military are prepared for what they have been sent to do. i don't know enough about what they are capable of doing. in my view, taking away from dealing with the zuma issue, and he has been lightly prosecuted and in jail right now, awaiting more prosecutions accusations. —— he has been rightly prosecuted. more generally, there has to be some state intervention. a country with 76% youth unemployment is not sustainable. there has to be expanded social grants, a basic income grant. in be expanded social grants, a basic incom

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what is happening right now in south africa? is this a political problem, or is it an economic problem? well, in fact, there, they are multiple dimensions to the stories. so there isn't necessarily one side that is absolutely correct or accurate south africa, since independent has been experiencing protests on quite a regular basis back to some referred to south africa, the protest capitol of the world, particularly around service delivery. so this is nothing new. what is new is the scale and the scope and the beach of the product. we just spread across 2 provinces at least, and potentially more going forward. so that is really the cracks of the budget. there, there are different dimensions to this. and at the core of it though, i would say both floyd and i've got the right analysis of the social economic inequality that can be traced quite far back to the the legacy of apartheid and a racialized exclusion and the inability to put it bluntly open, open governing body, the n c 2 in fact, turned around the situation into 20 to 7 y

and it is one to watch, including the situation in south africa. let me ask each of you in the few minutes we have lest let me ask each of you in the few minutes we have left to tell us about some other things you think we should be watching that have not had enough attention so far. michael first. we'll, there's something going on in america. there's always something going on in america. this is vocal politics — a lot of us here in britain and around the world think, well, joe biden's president and donald trump is making noise down in a mar—a—lago, but he's done. the republican party and the crisis in american democracy is not done. and, earlier this week, the democrats in the texas state legislature fled — a loaded word — but they flew to washington so that there would not be a quorum, so no business could be transacted in the texas state legislature. why? because the republican majority wanted to change the rules on voting and to sharply curtail the ability of people to vote, particularly african americans and people from poorer commun

stay there. ♪ ♪ >> laura: what is happening in south africa? things have deteriorated, total laura: what is happening in south africa? things of security, looting, violence that consumed the country for the better part of the past week so what is driving this? there are a lot of theories out there, some are saying it is just politics, it all started when the former south african president, jacob zuma, started a 15 month long prison sentence for contempt of court. app supporters believe he's a victim of a political witchhunt & is a man of the people, a populist particularly in rural communities. second the. is draconian covid lockdowns are partially to blame. south africa's economy was hit by the deepest recession on record, citizens came to resist the officials keeping them shut in, there were protests and finally the theory that there is a lot of resentment that comes along with racial reorganization, the south african national congress postapartheid has tried to write old wrongs by redistributing wealth and land. does that sound eerily simila

you know, the generation that was just born after democracy in south africa. and i think for a large, you know, to a large extent, our activism is really centered and crowded around, holding our democratic government accountable. right, hoping for a significant change in the living conditions of use and just the population more broadly. so we do borrow a lot from the enter party struggle in terms of the music, the songs kind of struggle songs that you thing and also some of the organizing and mobilizing. busy strategies, you know, we really still focus in terms of mass space movement building. and this is quite evident with the feasible for student positive across 26 institutions of higher learning, which saw university students demanding for free colonized high education. but of course, you know, the success of moments such as feasible for a large, the attributed to digital and online activism. and how that has also helped us in terms of shaping our own narrative, syria, you know, something about that. but what would you like to add? yeah, kinsey, we grew up

let's talk about south africa first. the main cause was the arrest of president zuma, who had been convicted of contempt of court. but there are clearly bigger forces at work here. what is your sense of what is driving these protests? an extraordinary - confluence of events. a power struggle within the ruling anc with all the latent— dissatisfaction of a really bad economic experience, - sort of, massive unemployment, huge inequality, poverty, plus, l the ever—presence of covid. shocking rates of cases - and very low vaccination rates. so, let's be clear, the reports coming out of south africa, i it's very clear now that there i was an attempt by supporters ofjacob zuma, in various ways, to try and destabilise _ the government. so, some of it was organised? no, no, a lot- of it was organised. you know, it hasn'tjust been. shopping centres that have been attacked and looted — i it's also been specific oil refineries, hospitals, i specific economic routes where lorries have been torched. so, in other words, - at best

i mean south africa as seen as a rape capital globally, not privy. take to have, and by the way, our famous side rate is 5 times higher than the global average. right. and so understanding around in the business and famous that has really been within that conceptual framework. however, as black women coke of, we're saying that it is to serve as well as to reduce gender based violence and fame aside to only physical and sexual forms of seattle political violence, economic violence, environmental violence, social violence, all violence is the country peach. the penalties of women and it's important that when we find solutions and we propose solutions that they must be multi pumped and they must be sexual so that they're able to address the sources of silence. so can you give me an example of what that work looks like or how you bring the solution to the public? of course, a lot of the steps and research than in south africa around in the base islands has attributed to a women's economic participation as a message driver of our ability to gender based.

their dissatisfaction with other issues in play in south africa. yes, there was a sense that something would happen following be arrest of mr. juma. i think what was unexpected was the broad scope, and the white extent to which we've seen the uprisings in a number of different cities and towns across at least 2 problems is indications that the province of western kate might also have some uprisings, as of today. widespread looting, as you mentioned. but i think the key point is that there's really reveals the multi layered nature of the crisis very complex situation. and so he'll be, could make disparities and social exclusion that goes back to the apartheid legacy in south africa. combined with years of ms ro, paradoxically by, by mr. jacobs, do the between 20092018. so i think the extent of the scope of this uprising was unexpected. but there was always a sense of something that of this magnitude could potentially happen in south africa. push your reading, given that the government has kind of misread this, i guess what, you're reading of what we

here's our south africa correspondent nomsa maseko. factory after factory after factory, ransacked and burned by looters. two young men lying dead beside a railway line, 48 hours after they died. this is what six days of looting and rioting in kwazulu—natal and gauteng provinces in south africa looks like. violent protests broke outjust hours after south africa's former president, jacob zuma, was jailed forfailing to comply with a court order to give evidence at a corruption inquiry. however, speculation is rife that even though this may have started out as a pro—zuma protest, it was a well orchestrated plan designed to embarrass the current president, cyril ramaphosa, and to ensure he doesn't get another term in office. but yesterday, amid fear and desperation, a moment of hope. people were screaming, "throw her, throw her, throw her!" and i was scared, i was really scared, but there were people down in the streets. i wasn't. .. they weren't always panicking. i was trusting anyone for my baby, to take my baby away from me, because

there is certainly a very difficult political and economic situation in south africa, again, stemming from the in the month of jacob zoom in terms of these initial protests, but certainly now has escalated into far more than that. and we've heard the south africa police minister saying some 757 people had been arrested for media. but what's your sense of, you know, whether police are able to act in the circumstances because, you know, as you're showing us, there are a lot of people out there on the street. okay, we're going to move up to the side. you see a police vehicle coming down or people run away immediately and police fire rubber for let's get yourself to say this is emily the difficulty or police calling to manage or that's. that's what made a miller there often made it. just get yourself into into a, into a safe spot. thank you for that live report. we will come back to miller when it is safe. as you can see, very much developing situation there on the, on the streets of johannesburg. various parts of south africa following the imprisonment of former president, jacob zoom, a.

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every single person in south africa are on the edge of their seats.— south africa are on the edge of their seats. the king of the zulu nation has _ their seats. the king of the zulu nation has said _ their seats. the king of the zulu nation has said that _ their seats. the king of the zulu nation has said that these - their seats. the king of the zulu | nation has said that these waves their seats. the king of the zulu i nation has said that these waves of violence and looting have brought shame on the country. how likely are his words to calm things down set against 25,000 troops?— his words to calm things down set against 25,000 troops? well, two thins. against 25,000 troops? well, two thinqs- the _ against 25,000 troops? well, two things. the troops, _ against 25,000 troops? well, two things. the troops, we _ against 25,000 troops? well, two things. the troops, we have - against 25,000 troops? well, two things. the troops, we have a - things. the troops, we have a population of about 10 million in kwazulu—natal alone. and about 70% unemployed, so we would need to enfold the mi

the other impact is on the countries around south africa that access their medical supplies from south africa. receipt countries bite -- we see countries like namibia and others that will also start to see the impact of the unrest. ros: on the issue of the vaccine rollout, but is the primary obstacle? access to vaccines? having the capacity to administer vaccines? >> we do have a challenge with supplies that are needed. out of the three-putt one million doses that have been administered around the world, only 2% have been done in africa. so a supply issue. how we try to increase and ensure equitable availability of vaccines is one of the main factors. also, to deliver vaccines, there must be systems in place. there must be demand. working on tailored approaches to increase demand at the community level is another aspect of ensuring that vaccines reach those who need to receive them. ros: in a few minutes, the latest from washington, because angela merkel is there to meet president biden. ♪ ros: the dutch crime reporter peter r to freeze has died after being in amsterdam last week. he

the poverty inequality that south africa now almost 30 in the n y minority room, half of south africans live below the official poverty line. unemployment is that a record high of close to 33 percent looting has created shortages of food, staples, and fuel causing long lines at the few places. still open the sol, surprising. you know, it was like it's communicated some way because you see something here. the very same thing is happening somewhere else. so it was like there's the, there's a spirit that is going around. did that mean or mislead that is going i don't know what the people that jobless and also logged out because off dom on the that's funny. yeah. after sunday, yeah. when the president, for the people when like you'd really crazy and that was coming down like a crowd, a lot of crowd coming down and there was an injury that he is ex tangent south africa consumer council. he's warning of a humanitarian crisis, and the security is provided for people working in factories, distribution centers, and shops, and benefits choice me now from devon in factor burnett. i mean, how has i

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this is an unprecedented move in democratic south africa. so many troops on the ground has not happened since the end of apartheid in 1980. the apartheid government was struggling to wrestle control as the country was going out of control. but at the moment, south africans have been calling for more military to be on the ground in order to restore peace and order. in terms of what we saw in terms of the looting, it was out of control and the police were heavily outnumbered. they were overstretched and could not contain the situation. so the reason why the president has requested to deploy on the streets of south africa is to wrestle back control from the looters and to ensure south africans that he is in control of the country and to ensure that the economy gets bk up on his feet as well. it has been severely hammered in the last couple of days. laura: you're watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonig's program, after the remains of more than 1000 indigenous children were found at former residential schools across canada, we r

the 1st ever closed door. allan picks also on the program. jacob's duma is behind south africa is full, but president became a 15 month prison sentence for contempt of court ending a stand off and how to self into courses overnight. in football, england be dead market extra time to make the euro 2025. yeah. to the time to take over the streets of london to celebrate that scene reaching a major tournament final for the 1st time in 55. ah, i'm still getting welcome to the program organizes of the tokyo olympics 7 hours to total ban on spectators in the stadiums. and follows the declaration of a new state of emergency in tokyo because of increasing numbers of corona virus cases. foreign fans that already been bad. now, japanese spectators are being told to stay at home. the games are due to begin in just over 2 weeks and will be the 1st ever olympics held behind closed doors. the limbic torch continued. it's a long journey towards tokyo to open the games later this month. while there were plenty of fans cheering on the torch barriers as they passed through the site on the prefecture writi