china. a panel of national security experts discussed intellectual property theft, xenophobia, and disinformation regarding covid-19. this is about two hours. ill. the former director of the counter into religions -- intelligence and security center. a lot of what we are going to be talking about today, he has worked on for many years. senior fellow at the center of security and emerging technology at torch down university. -- georgetown diversity. on webex, matt, the visiting fellow at the hoover institute and beauty national advisor -- national security advisor. the committee will examine the counterintelligence threats posed by the people's republic of china and the chinese communist party. we will look at their activities within the united states as a works to acquire critical u.s. technologies, hack into the u.s. cyber network, and conduct influence operations to shape narratives to be more favorable to the prc and pcc. we hope you will recommend -- you will share recommendations for co

china. it is interesting the editor of the global times, the state run media commented then and hinted that china is not as arrogant as the americans to swoop in. they are not so sure that they would go in. argue for the case for why they need stability for the belt and road initiative to stan and what economic interests they have in afghanistan -- through paskistan. ian: the chinese are not about to take the baton and send tens of thousands of troops on the ground in afghanistan. no question about that. but they are the major power in the region now that will be most affected by the fact that the taliban, the taliban are a failed state. so we already see chinese leaders that are sort of throwing promises of diplomatic support and eventually economic investment into afghanistan. and chinese have been killed, a bus in pakistan because they are seen as too active on the ground. this is going to be a problem for china going forward, no question. caroline: closer to home, you mentioned that most

and you know, that whole region of the world of this, the cities trap, the silk road, china, china, emerging, and all the problems happening in afghanistan, the middle east, that certain area of the world. we're going to look at something called that i just learned about. but i'm going to read you the wikipedia because it's really interesting in light of what's happening with the u. s. poll losing an afghanistan . and then around announcing that they say that they're joining their officially going to be accepted. and the shanghai cooperation organization, which i have not been in the previous 2 times. they applied, so the geographical pivot. and this was introduced by sir, how ford john mack hinder. ok, ma kinder. he was an english geographer, academic and politician who is regarded as one of the founding fathers of both geo politics and geo strategy. so he dubbed this phrase the geographical pivot of history. it is an article submitted by him in 190004 to the royal geographical society that advances his heart land theory. in this article, ma kinder extended the scope of geopolitical analysi

you south china seas and east china seas. i mean, just look at the job graphy chinese aggression in the south china sea is prevented by country what a, the 10s of thousands of miles away from that. right. how can this be, where is the water here? yeah, glen, go ahead of it because i mean the countries or at loggerheads, but at least even in demons. absolutely. right. to point out a lower level than probably should be it's not it wasn't appropriate. and i think that obviously the chinese that, that as a slight here, but there is a reckoning on both sides. that it either we continue the spiral down with unintended consequences or start facing after the fact that this is going to be a long log ahead. if we want to avoid them a serious conflict including a military. com, go ahead. yeah, no, i think there's a recognition that they need diplomacy, but again, what, what are the toner achieve and how much rooms for maneuver is there? because us has been there, opened that it will have the same format in purpose for diplomacy towards

which leaves us with more chinese based journalists working in china and covering china. the perception, of course, in the west is that the main chinese media always toes the party line. how fair is that suggestion, in yourview, sha hua? i think there are some topics where you... there's sometimes quite a bit of debate in china and then suddenly something happens and you realise the leadership has come down the line and it's communicated downwards. and then all the publications come out with the same party line, with the same narrative. but before that, there's actually quite a lot of debate. and i think we also have to be aware that there are a lot of publications in china and they're affiliated to different departments, different ministries, and they might actually take different views on certain issues. i, for example, cover climate. and i think some of my reporting has shown that, you know, the environmental ministry may not necessarily agree with the economic planners or the energy administration. the other thing i would say is, and i think amy most probably knows th

and it's all really about china, china, china, ok. and the americans are obsessed with russia, but the rest of, with russia and china at the same time, the europeans are a little bit more in between here. i don't see how they can divide russian china when they're both being the target of aggressive rhetoric at the very least from the us. go ahead, alexander well, when the americans, i mean american lives is talking about russia or china, they actually don't talk above them. the real russia, china, there's like 2 symbols in the internal po. so the main idea was for a long time after then what profess loan said union for period unity pull a moment was this is going to become an age of your new priority. it will be there forever. so as o a d o just they and the american elite, i would say they rejected sex, rejected for a long time. the fact that russia and china was coming to the other and was forming a kind of defect to alliance in eurasia, which wasn't used to be a nightmare to such. jo jo, political thinkers like june, sky or right y

seas and east china seas. i mean, just look at the job. chinese aggression in the south during the sea is prevented by country what a that you tens of thousands of miles away from that, right? how can this be? where is the want to hear? good, go ahead of it because, i mean the 2 countries are at loggerheads, but i mean at least even if it was absolutely right to point out a lower level than probably should be if it wasn't appropriate. and i think that obviously the chinese that, that as a slight here, but there is a reckoning on both sides. that it either we continue the spiral down with unintended consequences or start facing up to the fact that this is going to be a long log ahead. if we want to avoid them a serious conflict including a military. com. go ahead. yeah, no, i think there's a recognition that they need diplomacy, but again, what are the achieve and how much rooms for maneuver is there? because us has been there opened that it will have the same format in purpose for diplomacy towards china. as w

and it's all really about china, china, china, ok. and the americans are obsessed with russia, but the rest of, with russia and china at the same time, the europeans are a little bit more in between here. i don't see how they can divide russian china when they're both being the target of aggressive rhetoric at the very least from the us. go ahead, alexander well, when americans, i mean the american, the leaves are stuck about russia or china. they actually don't talk above them, the real russia, china, there's a like run through symbols in the internal pool. so the main idea was for a long time after then what profess loan said union for period unity pull a moment was this is going to become an age of union or it will be there forever. so as o a d o, and just they in the american leads, i would say, and they rejected sex, rejected for a long time. the fact that russia and china was coming together and was forming a kind of defect to alliance in eurasia, which wasn't used to be a nightmare to such jo jo, political thinkers like june, s

but this enters into what china, china is the one the founding member. and they want the spelling wrote initiative right without rans, active presence and as role as the link between the east and west and china's plan, it will be difficult to achieve the goals of reviving the self road. and china is well aware of this. because in both land and sea routes around geo political position on the soap road is vital. the plan which includes 2 trade routes, the silk road, economic belt, and the 21st century maritime silk road involves investing in the economic infrastructure of more than $65.00 countries. the economic belt which covers the land root of the soak road and as the ancient root of the south road connects china to eastern and western europe through central asia and west asia. and the countries of chris extend cause expand is becca, stand around in turkey, ukraine. it includes poland, belgium, france, and finally italy. right. and you know, things are happening quickly in that rate, and you've got the new pipeline nordstrom to going where i from russia

china was old. china was vast. china had fallen behind technologically. her ships were not as maneuverable as britain's where. they were state of the art. the cannons were behind. the chinese cannons were cast of bronze and made in portugal in the 1600s. the british cannons were the finest that could be had and most accurate. britain handily won the first and second of these so-called opium wars and used that opportunity to demand that china open up several of the ports, including shanghai, et cetera. once this news became known this is what happened. if we take a look at this political cartoon -- you can step around. if you take a look at this political cartoon, you get an idea of what was to happen. here we see china shown as a sleeping dragon. of course, a reference to napoleon's comment that china was a sleeping giant. fighting over the carcass we see the british lion, the russian bear, the american eagle, the french rooster, et cetera. they are all fighting over the carcass. to be more exact, it was quite common for people to march in and just take o

and china. in some ways even more important, a bilateral relationship to manage to avoid -- i wonder if you would reflect a bit on those historic opening discussions you had that led to the beginning of the u.s.-china relationship and compared to where we are now. what your goals were then in whatever goals were -- what our goal should be no. >> a prisoner in vietnam. he had been a prisoner for many years. at the end of the vietnam war, i was in hanoi to conclude the final negotiations. said to me you can take commander mccain home on you -- home with you on your plane as a sign of goodwill. i did not think it was such a great sign of goodwill ahead of the commander in pacific would come home with me on a presidential plane. in any case, i refused to take it. and i was wondering in the four months that intervened before i met him, which was at a white house reception and john mccain came up to me and said thank you for saving my honor. we became good friends. through all the years afterwards, in

but this enters into what china china is one of the founding member. and they want the spell and wrote initiative right without rans, active presence. and as role as the link between the east and west and china's plan, it will be difficult to achieve the goals of reviving the self road. and china is well aware of this. because in both land and sea routes around geo political position on the soap road is vital. the plan which includes 2 trade routes, the silk road, economic belt, and the 21st century maritime silk road involves investing in the economic infrastructure of more than $65.00 countries. the economic belt which covers the land root of the soak road and as the ancient root of the south road connects china to eastern and western europe through central asia and west asia. and the countries of chris extend cause expand is becca been around turkey, ukraine. it includes poland, belgium, france, and finally italy. right. and, you know, things are happening quickly in that rate and he got the new pipeline nordstrom to going right from russia to germa

and it's all really about china, china, china, ok. and the americans are obsessed with russia, but the rest of, with russia and china at the same time, the europeans are a little bit more in between here. i don't see how they can divide russian china when they're both being the target of aggressive rhetoric at the very least from the us. go ahead, alexander well, when americans, i mean, the american elite is stuck in about russia or china. they actually don't talk above them, the real russia try and this, there's a like run through symbols in the internal pool. so the main idea was for a long time after then what profess loan said union for period unity pull a moment was this is going to become an age of your new polarity. it will be there forever. so as o a d o, and just they, in the american, the lease i would say, and they rejected sex, rejected for a long time. the fact that russia and china was coming together and was forming a kind of defect to alliance in eurasia, which wasn't used to be a nightmare to such jo jo, political thi

can be seen as a counterweight to china's growing influence. now, how is china viewing visit? while china's official sin one use agency portrayed harris's visit as a drive to contain china. and it also describes the us approach as outdated cold war thinking intended to create division and confrontation. now one of the things that harris will have to contend with during her visit is answering questions about of gonna start collapse and answering questions about us as credibility and commitment in keeping his foreign policy promises. in the us, at least 23 people have been killed. shoeing floods with central tennessee, you know, the 430 millimeters of rain fell on today. shattering a previous records rescue crews is searching for dozens are still missing. the power to hampton move efforts, floods forced away roads, destroyed homes, and tropical storm on re, is battering a stretch of the northeastern coast of the united states, just hours after being downgraded from a hurricane. millions of people embracing for flash floods, violent winds, and power cuts. john henry is in montauk

but this enters into what china china is one of the founding member. and they want this belt and wrote initiative right without rans, active presence. and as role as the link between the east and west and china's plan, it will be difficult to achieve the goals of reviving the self road. and china is well aware of this. because in both land and sea routes around geo political position on the soap road is vital. the plan which includes 2 trade routes, the silk road, economic belt, and the 21st century maritime silk road involves investing in the economic infrastructure of more than $65.00 countries. the economic belt which covers the land root of the silk road and as the ancient root of a self road connects china to eastern and western europe through central asia and west asia. and the countries of chris extend has expand is becca been around turkey, ukraine. it includes poland, belgium, france, and finally italy. right. and, you know, things are happening quickly in that region. he got the new pipeline, our stream to going right from russia to germany.

china. us with russia, which is that us will corporate all in areas where the us interest in, in all other areas will seek to come from china. and that's kind of limits the, the scope of diplomacy. and i agree to a large extent would be my, i don't think ology is the driving variable here. i think the u. s. it's rather it's instrumental for him on the policy because the, with the care, the strategies are openly based on global him on his much everything black and white. so the rice of china and so becomes the problem, is not merely that there are some competing interest in china itself that has to be cut down in size and sorry that was supposed to develop and grow under the wing of united states supply. every little thing, good thing now is trying to taking this technological leadership, living industry and building infrastructure around the world is getting the growing footprints in global finance. and this is very problematic as the u. s. does not recognize eagles in a world based on globa

i want to see what do we make with china? what do we lose with china? maria: a candidate who ran on the platform of holding china accountable was now turning his campaign rhetoric into white house policy. there is some question about the china deal that, you know, you are not going to be able to get china to stop dealing intellectual property. >> we have a policing aspect to this deal that's the strongest anybody has ever had. if that happens, i will turn in the deal. we are taking billions of dollars first time ever against china in tariffs. i'm very happy with that. maria: never before has a dictator for life experienced the pushing and poking as he did with president trump, america's tariffs proved consequential as the chinese economy slid into the slowest growth mode in 29 years. on top of rising pressure from america, protesters on the ground in hong kong, further increased strains on the struggling dictator. their plea for freedom from china was seen and heard around the world, after china tried to institute a new law that forced anyone charged to

within china. and that's probably the biggest reason if they really wanted to get rid of them or they wanted to do something or they would have done it years ago. so the leaders are provide labor, they provide very cost low cost, labor costs, and china will keep that. but you've got to separate that from the taliban because afghanistan with the minerals that they have. and with the buddy, remember the us reserve federal reserve just cut off all their cash. they literally have about $10.00 in the bank. so they need china cash more than anything else. and china is very willing to put cash into something where they know they'll get a magnificent return. chinese are pretty smart that way. well, be real interesting to see how quickly this actually starts to flow. and that's how it is it, right to say that they're trying to recognize them as equal. and you've also have other government saying the taliban establishes a government. it doesn't matter necessarily about the human rights issues. do you think o

but this enters into what china china is the one that founding member. and they want the spelt and wrote initiative right without around active presence and as role as the link between the east and west and china's plan, it will be difficult to achieve the goals of reviving the self road. and china is well aware of this. because in both land and sea roots around geo political position on the soap road is vital. the plan which includes 2 trade routes, the silk road, economic belt, and the 21st century maritime silk road involves investing in the economic infrastructure of more than $65.00 countries. the economic belt which covers the land root of the soak road and as the ancient root of the south road connects china to eastern and western europe through central asia and west asia. and the countries of chris extend cause expand is becca then ran turkey ukraine. it includes poland, belgium, france, and finally italy, right? and, you know, things are happening quickly in that region. you've got the new pipeline, nordstrom to going where i from russia to germ

which leaves us with more chinese based journalists working in china and covering china. the perception, of course, in the west is that the main chinese media always toes the party line. how fair is that suggestion, in your view? i think there are some topics where you... there's sometimes quite a bit of debate in china and then suddenly something happens and you realise the leadership has come down the line, and it's communicated downwards. and then all the publications come out with the same party line, with the same narrative. but before that, there's actually quite a lot of debate. and i think we also have to be aware that there are a lot of publications in china, and they're affiliated to different departments, different ministries, and they might actually take different views on certain issues. i, for example, cover climate. and i think some of my reporting has shown that, you know, the environmental ministry may not necessarily agree with the economic planners or the energy administration. the other thing i would say is, and i think amy most probably knows this qui

china. china's ability to influence american institutions is persistent. leadership in these naughty sectors would have major repercussions for security. since world war ii, the united states have led in both scientific research and the development of transformational technology. it is this leadership that is related into decades of economic success for u.s. companies and our military abilities. the u.s. and like-minded democracies also set the global standards and protocol for new technology. we can implant in those standards our values. democracy, transparency, diversity of opinion, and respect for human rights. that is a long-term value to our country that is not factored in. i am frustrated by the fricassee but which u.s. companies, in their desire for market access in china have given up on tho se values. it has allowed the prc to acquire u.s. technology. they would make sacrifices going into that market nowhere else in the world. china wants to advance his own vision. to control its po

is it packaged or is it china already? was it has always been shy except that in yeah, i tried to manage a relationship with china in a different way because there hasn't been a history or partition on august on trying to. so the world against india, or putting a claim on india with regard to a new capability and thinking that china gave to the messiah nuclear capability. and china has, after the occupation of tibet become for the 1st time in history. the 1st time in history neighbor and we had a $962.00 conflict in which india was sort of a deal on the border. and since then into the number of years, india has time to manage the relationship with china. digging into account the fact that it's a neva, it's a big follow, and almond at enmity with it would not be helpful and try and find some common ground rich. i know i'm due until jaya in recent years started becoming much more aggressive, especially on 2000. and then we've got to get it on the bench on china. and then we've had recent direct conflict in the east on the do

i think the bigger issue here is that the propaganda from this is just fabulous for china. china has their own problems, of course. and so now they get to change the narrative. america bad look how stupid they are. they couldn't work with these people. look at us where the great guys were going to come in. we're going to put $500000000000.00 trillion dollars into building the infrastructure that they couldn't get before. and they will, they will have a hand in lower lower costs. so when they have lower cost, gosh, guess what? you know, they'll be more competitive. this is, you know, trying to place a long game, the taliban play the long game. united states is played a very short game and we pay the serious price. well, i have to also want to retire does not have the best record in regards to religious, right. firstly, for the muslim community, do you think the taliban did their research actually to see what was going on or is being claimed right now, the accusations against china in regards to the muslims that exists within their training. and is that something that could even be con

but this enters into what china china is one of the founding member. and they want this belt and wrote initiative right without rans, active presence. and as role as the link between the east and west and china's plan, it will be difficult to achieve the goals of reviving the soap road. and china is well aware of this. because in both land and sea routes around geo political position on the south road is vital. the plan which includes 2 trade routes, the silk road, economic belt, and the 21st century maritime silk road involves investing in the economic infrastructure of more than $65.00 countries. the economic belt which covers the land root of the soak road and as the ancient root of the south road connects china to eastern and western europe through central asia and west asia. and the countries of chris extend cause expand is becca been around turkey, ukraine. it includes poland, belgium, france, and finally italy, right? and, you know, things are happening quickly in that region. he got the new pipeline, nordstrom to going where i from russia to ge

they include china insurance investment and china life asset management. sources told bloomberg the fresh capital amounts to almost $8 billion. they posted a record $16 billion loss in 2020. he sunday blue -- nissan debuted its first refresh in over a decade. they recently forecast return to annual profit for the first time in three years. the coo says nissan will continue to push for electrification in four u.s. products. covid-19 outbreaks and the global chip shortage continue to pose a challenge. >> the chip shortage is also driven by the capacity. already, the actions have been taken by our suppliers and this loss will go away. whether this will go away in the short-term, i don't think so. whether it will continue in the long-term, i don't think so, but it will continue in the midterm. haidi: let's get to a bloomberg scoop. the imf will block a taliban led afghanistan from accessing shown drawing rights. the country was set to receive 450 million dollars of fdr's. let's bring up jodi schneider. what are the implications of this as the taliban tries to

they're going to, you know, play footsie with china. they're not going to go ahead longer, that because at the end of the day we are the country that protect israel and also keeps israel safe from some of their other enemies. right. so obviously that part of, sorry, i just think it's really interesting that the vitamin tracy is going to continue this idea of threatening the relationship just like the trunk administration did. one of the few things that actually benjamin netanyahu did not get along with, let's move on to the game, which is the primary reason i want to have you on yesterday, i guess enough canister veteran corey mills had this to say on the show. china wants this economic resource warfare they're going to expose this as the greatest existential threat. and they're going to create the one road one belt, which is gonna essentially create your trade routes. and they're gonna continue to expand with the help of other great research superpowers. tobin, how is patient doing this? are they wanting to start the new so corrode are

china. a panel of experts discussed intellectual property theft, xenophobia, and disinformation regarding covid-19. this is about two hours. [indistinct conversations] senator warner: good afternoon. i call this hearing to order, and welcome to our witnesses. a good, good friend of the committee's, the honorable bill evanina, former director of the national counterintelligence and security center. he is the founder and ceo of the evanina group, and in many ways a lot of what we're going to be talking about today he has worked on with his members of this committee on for many, many years. anna puglisi, sorry, anna, senior fellow at the center for security and emerging technology or cset at georgetown university. and on webex, matt pottinger, the distinguished visiting fellow at the hoover institute and former deputy national advisor. -- deputy national security advisor at the white house. today, the committee will examine the counterintelligence threats posed by the people's republic of china

china play. it is vitally strategically important that kamala harris do something and get something right here and get this on the board in a good fashion. >> that was the senior editor with what to expect with the vice president of the u.s. in vietnam. coming up, will china change the way it treats women in the workplace? carol wallace joins us with a closer look at the issue. this is bloomberg. ♪ >> course we are pointing to alibaba. we have other companies saying this x manager case is still under investigation. quite the latest out of beijing. there has been an assault that were not really broached in china until the #metoo movement in 2018. but this alibaba case has put it back in the spotlight. let's get some insight from carol wallace. she is an expert on women and gender studies. tell us why you think beijing is acting now. >> i think there are a few reasons the story is quite dramatic and horrifying. the fact that the women released to the post on we chat and then i don't know if you s

this data from china is a double slap, isn't it? it's a growth stock warning and an inflation risk from the closedown of some of their major ports in china. how concerning is the last 48 hours of information for you? alan: morning, manus. so, the data from china, it was a mess. economic data is nothing new, as we seen. the more shocking memo is what we saw a lot of friday, the michigan confidence. that was a real mess. so, we've got the conference board, which has been diverging, another measure of consumer confidence in the state. but we're looking for moderation. it's easy to forget we have had a v-shaped recovery, especially in consumption. we're looking for moderation, including the delta variant. in my concerned enough about -- am i concerned enough about equities? not big picture. the reason is the fundamental of earnings rate. earnings rate is so strong.w e're -- we're seeing a 45% earnings global growth this year. the market is derating as a strong earnings rate comes in. and the second reason why, you mentioned we haven't s

and it's all really about china, china, china, ok. and the americans are obsessed with russia, but the rest of, with russia and china at the same time, the europeans are a little bit more in between here. i don't see how they can divide russian china when they're both being the target of aggressive rhetoric at the very least from the us. go ahead, alexander well, when americans, i mean american, the leaves are stuck in about russia or china. they actually don't talk above them, the real russia, china, there's a like run through symbols in the internal pool. so the main idea was for a long time after then what profess loan said union for period unity pull a moment was this is going to become an age of union or it will be there forever. so as o a d o and just they and the american, the leads i would say and they rejected sex, rejected for a long time. the fact that russia and china was coming together and was forming a kind of defect to ally and senior regime, which wasn't used to be a nightmare to jo jo, political thinkers like june sk

china. jenn could attack europe and just take your defense just because the space will be absorbed in a wall with china and all of these because over the last few project, team 2 because it will give money to portion. so which would be able to have that. i've gotten just gotten political a us china war would likely absorb most if not all us economic and military capability. and consequently, credit undermine it's chris ability to provide currency in europe. and because of that such, it will provide you with the much a lot for a peculiar to remedy your ashes. defeat at the handle, the cold war in the 91. i mean, the, if this is more insane than what is and the problem is that the people why such binion pay a lot, guys from the street. you know, they are form advisors to the british defense ministry of their hi, blaze us a few show such as far cause, you know, she, she made similar claims about ukraine being sold out to the, to the russia and just shows you how absurd the western media and the

it mainly cited china. as far as china is concerned, yes, we've seen relatively few cases, but they have taken quite sweeping measures. but i feel like here we may see china being able to control it much faster. they said something very similar when there was a wave in january for the lunar new year. shery: what is interesting is just this weekly biden administration also asked opec-plus to revise outlook more quickly. so i guess we are not really going to see that from opec loss given this latest -- opec-plus given this latest report. vandana: yeah. i think opec-plus has generally adopted an overly cautious tone, which has been quite evident this year under very clear saudi leadership. i do not see the balance of power between hawkish saudi arabia and a dovish -- saudi arabia has been very much in control, and it's set a very cautious tone when it comes to tapering. now with worries over how the second half of this year demand pans out, let us all acknowledge what we know about delta today doesn't necessar

china's gain. not necessarily american glass and china's gain-— china's gain. that's interesting. has afghanistan _ china's gain. that's interesting. has afghanistan proved - china's gain. that's interesting. has afghanistan proved that. china's gain. that's interesting. | has afghanistan proved that the british empire and the concept was to no longer project power in a way that so comfortably and confidently for a couple of centuries or more. you can certainly say that about how humiliating it was, janet, for the soviet union after having to withdraw afghanistan. it didn't last very long after that.— very long after that. soviet union's vietnam. very long after that. soviet union's vietnam- they _ very long after that. soviet union's vietnam. they got _ very long after that. soviet union's vietnam. they got bogged - very long after that. soviet union's vietnam. they got bogged down i very long after that. soviet union's i vietnam. they got bogged down and across them enormously that ability. t

she is a member of china's muslim minority, a group that some experts say china is focused on wiping out. when you landed in the united states, what did it feel like? >> good to see you! >> byon, do you remember when you met us over in kazakhstan? do you remember? your mom was crying, right? what did you say to her? >> you look happier than last time, compared to the last time i saw you. are you happier now? for two years you didn't see your mom? >> i missed you. >> did you tell byon exactly what you were being forced to do in china? >> reporter: there are very few images of the camps, from satellite photos, photos from the government, and cell phone photos leaked by activists. from an investigation into the so-called prisons, artists created these harrowing scenes based on the testimonies of more than 50 former detainees. the united nations and rights groups say more than 1 million people have been detained in camps like these. some forced into slave labor factories, making products linked to the biggest brands in the world. thousands of shipments coming into the u.s. every year. >>

china. and that's kind of limits the, the scope of diplomacy and i agree to a large extent would be my, i don't think ology is the driving variable here. i think the u. s. it's rather it's instrumental for him on the policy because the care, the strategies are openly based on global him on his much everything black and white. so the rice of china itself becomes the problem. it's not merely that there are some competing interest in china itself that has to be cut down in size and sorry that was supposed to develop and grow under the wing of united states to supply every little thing. good thing now is trying to taking this technological leadership, living industry and building infrastructure on the world is getting the growing footprints in global finance. and this is very problematic as the u. s. does not recognize eagles in a world based on global dominance. so it's the size of china, so which is the problem because usually in diplomacy, you tried to map out our strategic interests was your

intelligence on china or consistent with china's action in the global marketplace. he kept calling them strategic competitor. they are not. they are an unlawful dishonest competitor in the world marketplace but more importantly number one adversary, top national security threat, they want to supplant us as the world superpower and wall street investment banks that have been the biggest perpetrators of the false narrative as china as noble strategic competitor and they do so because those -- those investment banks are selling trillions, not billions, but trillions of dollars in debt in equities to chinese companies and investors and so, you know, i was really troubled by what mr. dimon said and 3 times he said, we shouldn't get -- china acts like any other country in the world and we shouldn't get breathless over them. that's just simply not true. there's no country who has done more to damage the world economy or the citizens of the world -- over the past few years than china. china and china alone is responsible for millions and millions of deaths from covid-19 and

oh, china is very cohesive. it's largely homogenous, is extremely nationalistic, patriotic, there is, you know, if you're, if you are going to, if you are an alien and you came down, which countries going to class 1st, china, the united states in be 100. the one in favor, the united states collapsing 1st there china is no way going to break apart or be socially torn apart. the us intel agencies are trying that with ridiculous claims and she's young and things like that because that is the one province of china that ethnically different. if it's 50 percent of the people are weavers from young, 50 percent, are hon trainees, but a lot of terrorism and things like that. they're in the past. they're trying to break that area off of china to create you know, into great chaos in china basically. so the terms of overall social cohesion, china is basically full speed ahead. as far as i know, there are times of time there are certain issues people get upset about, but it's nothing like what we see in the united states at

there's no reason to confront china in the south china sea . most of the stories, adverbs in zang, about the way goes ah, out, now propaganda, without evidence, without evidence. in fact, in certain, jang, there was a problem with the i think it the what the call the east turkestan. freedom movement which the us state department described as one of the most extreme terrorist organizations. so china has a terrorism problem in, in that province, whether, whether or not china is being able to handle secessionist problem. the same that the soviet union has had and many other countries of head. but there is no evidence whatsoever. but there is the kind of suffering that has worthy of the description genocide, that term genocide i should remind you, came from the lips of mike pompeo, who described himself as a liar and most of the so called evidence has come from a researcher now associated with the jamestown foundation in washington called adrian sans if you look at things is all his so called documentation, it's documentation used by amnesty and ma

is it packaged or is it china already? was it already being shy except that in the side to manage a relationship with china in a different way because it hasn't been a history or partition on august on trying to live. so the stomach was against india or putting in blame on india with regard to a new capability. and thinking that china gave back to the messiah nuclear capability. and china has, after the occupation of tibet begun for the 1st time in history for the 1st time in history. neighbor. and we had the $962.00 conflict in which india was to be on the border. and since then into the economic some years, india has died to manage the relationship with china, taking into account the fact that it's a neva, it's a big follow. and ominous and wiki with it would not be helpful and try and find some common ground rich. i know i'm due until shy and recent years started becoming much more aggressive, especially from 2005 with regard to audio danger on china and then be about recent direct conflict in east on the dock which is

china's old, it was vast, but china had fallen behind technologically. their ships were not as manoeuvrable as the british ships. they're canons were woefully behind. the chinese canons were perhaps -- cast in bronze, made in portugal in the 16 hundreds. british cannons were the finest and most accurate that could be. had written handily won the first and second of the so-called opium wars, and use that opportunity to demand the china open up several of the ports including ningpoe, shanghai, and tiensen it said era. when we look at these political cartoons, we look around. when we take a look at these political cartoons, you get an idea of what was to happen. here, we see china shown as a sleeping dragon. of course, a reference to napoleon's comment that was, china's a sleeping giant. and fighting over the carcass, you see the british lion, the russian bear, the american eagle, the french rooster, etc. all fighting over the carcass, and where exactly, it was easier for people to march and take over a whole section of china, and rule it as if it were thei

yvonne: how do you see the impact, what impact could this have internally and china? -- in china? >> even in china, it is having a widespread affect. the most obvious blow is to domestic tourism, which had been picking up. china is a fast domestic market, lots of places to go and places to fly, and that was experiencing a peak during the summer holiday. that has come right back. there is a broader impact within china of the economic impact. we have seen ripple effects of that. goldman sachs and jp morgan the other day, downgrading their growth forecasts for the third quarter. from the company's point of view, beijing capital international airport paired back their outlook, saying they expect their nestled -- net loss to widen to 860 million you want -- 860 million yuan. david: what does it mean for the rest of the world? people talk about china itself until recently as its own travel bubble. the rest of the world, there are some good and bad parts. >> yes, there are. but i would say with the delta variant creating more and more negative headlines by the day, that sort of optimism

are you brave enough to scale in or how do you look at retaking china risk? nothing in china. she accepted in and bought some jd.com. when she swings money around, people notice. are you as brave as kathy wood? would you take on china tech risk at the moment? >> at the moment we think it is a little too early. it feels like a bet, like a gamble opposed to an investment. you don't quite know when it comes to this regulatory tightening. we don't know if the equity selloff was enough to really sharpen their minds or whether they feel that that is just the price they are willing to pay to reach the goals that they set out. remember, they have been very clear how they want to restructure the society and how they want to lower income and wealth inequality. that doesn't happen overnight. regulatory tightening is not going to disappear either. it is about managing the balance and clearly the balance has gone in one direction. now they seem to be going to the middle. but the uncertainty is still very high there. we're not taking that yet. tom: too early to dip your toe back into china.

we should be tackling china. can you make an argument that the south china islands are anything but this? >> i actually really like the framework. the confusion that it created internationally and frankly at home. we have to start by restating and clarifying to ourselves and then to others, the potential adversary how do we define our interest. what is it that we are resolved to protect and defend? not only treaty allies, but elements of international order that are really important to preserving our ability to trade freely, the disputes over territory or access to resources are resolved peacefully or making, you know -- in that context, those little islands do matter. it is not the territory, it is what they represent. they represent china and flagrantly violating the international that are in china treaty. sort of using, taking action to change the status quo in ways that are believable and no coordination to national law. i do think we need to push back on that. i also like restraint at the event when you look

and china seems to be doing their whole treasure fleet. situation again. so just so you know, for what happens in that with the treasure fleet of china, is that 500 years ago china destroyed its world dominating navy because its political elite was afraid of free trade. and the 1400s, china owned the greatest c going fleet in the world, up to $3500.00 ships at its peak. the u. s. navy today has only 430. some of them are 5 times the size of the ships being built in europe at the time. but by 1525, all of china's treasure fleet had been destroy, because the political or we were afraid of the, of the actual entrepreneurial business elite. so they destroyed that, and that seems to be going on there again. and of course, china did think then for the next few 100 years, that's the key point there. the, the china went in that became the hermit kingdom, or hydra disappeared off the map after they did that for many years. and so they have a propensity to commit financial suicide. where are they doing that again today? because the elite sphere, the rise of the merc

while china's official sin one news agency portrayed harris's visit as a drive to contain china. and it also describes the us approach as outdated cold war thinking intended to create division and confrontation. now one of the things that harris will have to contend with during her visit is answering questions about of gonna start collapse and answering questions about us as credibility and commitment and keeping its foreign policy promises. now to the united states where at least 22 people have been killed during flooding in central tennessee, maybe 430 millimeters of rain fell on saturday. shattering a previous record rescue crews a searching for dozens were still missing, but parker. hampering those efforts the floods have washed away roads and destroyed homes. tropical storm on re is battering a stretch of the northeastern coast of the united states, just hours after being downgraded from hurricane. millions of people are bracing for flash floods, violent winds, and power cuts. john henry reports now from montauk new york bond re rolled into rhode island on massive waves maki