jefferson davis demand as a contradiction jefferson davis in this early life was a graduate united states military academy. he served in the frontier with the united states army. he was secretary of war under president pierce. he served the united states congress. they also served in the united states senate. and he and his wife. were the host during james buchanan's administration in washington, dc? when the south left and formed their own government, they invited jefferson davis. to become its first and only president. jefferson davis would accept that invitation and become the president of the confederate states of america. we're standing in the cell where jefferson davis was held at the conclusion of the american civil war. in 1965 jefferson davis received word from general robert e. lee the commander of the army of northern virginia that they no longer could hold the federal army back from attacking the city of richmond. with that news jefferson davis adjourned his cabinet and sent his family on the road for their protection. jefferson davis soon after that would follow he would fina

jefferson davis the man is a contradiction. jefferson davidson in his early life was a graduate of the united states military academy. he was secretary of war, he served the united states congress also served united states senate. he was a host during the james buchanan administration in washington. when the southwest formed their own government they invited jefferson davis to become his first and only president. jefferson davis would accept that invitation and become the president of the confederate states of america. we are standing in the cell or jefferson davis was held at the conclusion of the american civil war. 1965 jefferson davis received word from general robert e lee the commander they will hold the federal army back from attacking the city of virginia. with that news, jefferson davis directed his cabinet, and sent his family on the road for protection. jefferson davis soon after that would follow. he would finally catch up with his family right above the florida state line. it was here where the federal mounted unit

davies, and, yes, it's the same jefferson davies that just a few years later would be the president of the confederacy, came up with the idea of importing camels from the middle east to see if they could be used to supply these far-flung forts and settlements. it was called the texas experiment. the idea was to create sort of an american camel corps. the experiment had its problems. although those who were well-trained and experienced when camels found them to be great animals to work, others who were less trained and less experienced had had difficulties with them. now these problems along with the beginning of the civil war caused an end to the program, and, unfortunately, most of these camels were just set loose to fend for themselves. now it is reported that some of the offspring from these camels that were set loose, were still seen roaming the southwest. up until the 1940s, but a few of the camels were still used by forces in the north and the south and doug was the most famous. again, he was the mascot of the 43rd mississippi infantry, and he was used to transport some suppli

so that then secretary of war, a guy by the name of jefferson davis, and yes it's it's the same jefferson davis that just a few years later would be the president of the confederacy, came up with the idea of importing camels from the middle east to see if they could be used to supply these far flung forts and settlements. it was called the texas experiment. the idea was there create an american camel corps. the experiment had its problems. although those were well trained and experience with camels found them to be great animals to work with, others who were less trained and less experienced had difficulties with them. now, these problems along with the beginning of the civil war caused an end to the program. and unfortunately, most of these camels were just set loose to fend for themselves. now, it is reported that some of the offspring from these camels that we just set loose, were still seen roaming the southwest. up until the 1940s. a few of the camels were still used by forces in the north and the south and doug was the most famous. again, he was the mascot of the 43rd mississippi in

now, he was named after jefferson davis the president of the confederacy. it was not meant as a compliment to jefferson davis to be compared to a pig but jeff davis the pig was very popular among the troops and he could do a number of things he could march with them on his hind legs. he could smoke a pipe he could run obstacle courses and he served with them extensively including when they did occupation duty and the newly captured city of new orleans but when it came time for them to go into combat, they made the very humane decision to send jeff davis back to a farm in new haven, connecticut so he could live out the rest of his days in peace. another animal that has similar fortunate date was brewing the bear. he belonged to the 12th wisconsin infantry and he was team bear he would march with them. he would board trains with them and he went with them on an extensive series of assignments. they ended up in fort leavenworth kansas, and then they got in order that they would have to take a grueling and dangerous march to texas again. they made the humane de

111, and he said, and i will give you an excerpt, now therefore i, jefferson davis, president of the confederate states of america in name do declare and pronounce said benjamin butler a felon and deserved of capital punishment and order that he no longer be considered or treated simply as a public enemy of the confederacy of the united states of america, but outlaw and common enemy of mankind and in the event of the capture, the officer in charge of the capturing force do cause him to be immediately executed by hanging, and i do further order that no commissioned officer of the united states taken captive shall be released on parole before exchange until the said butler shall have met with due punishment for his crimes. now, davis went on, adding, in this proclamation, that all negro slaves captured in arms be it once delivered over to the executive authorities of the respective states to which they belong, to be dealt with according to laws of said states, that the like orders be executed in all cases with respect to all commissioned officers of the united states when found serving

therefore i, jefferson davis, president of the confederate states of america in name do declare and pronounce said benjamin butler a felon and deserving of capital punishment. i do order that he be no longer considered or treated simply as a public enemy of the confederacy of the united states of america, but as an outlaw and common enemy of mankind and in the event of the capture, the officer in command of the capturing force do cause him to be immediately executed by hanging, and i do further order that no commissioned officer of the united states taken captive shall be released on parole before exchange until the said butler shall have met with due punishment for his crimes. now, davis went on, adding, in this proclamation, that all negro slaves captured in arms be at once delivered over to the executive authorities of the respective states to which they belong, to be dealt with according to laws of said states, that the like orders be executed in all cases with respect to all commissioned officers of the united states when found serving in the company with armed slaves and insurrection ag

private property, that's difference. >> and the jefferson davis highway existed until about a year ago. >> it doesn't surprise me, but, this was an attempt to-- as davis said to reconcile a country torn apart, but going too far. going too far with that and not thinking about the feelings and the sensibilities of one part of the citizenry, that is to say, know, african-americans who had been enslaved in the confederacy. and unionists, white people in the north and south who remain loyal to the american nation, which is what-- we talked about johnson, that that was a good point about him is that he believed in the american union. >> back to kate in sacramento's text, she had a follow-up question, who is your next planned book subject? and might i suggest clara barton or lucy stone, both outspoken abolitionists? >> well, i have a couple of projects that i had to interrupt to do juneteenth here that i ended up, you know, pushing aside for the moment. i'm doing a second volume of the hemmings family story. i'm taking them from charlottesville after jefferson dies in 1826 and taking it up to

to get to the grocery store jefferson davis highway. again, my parents live on a street today named after somebody who enslaved 1150 people. i didn't know those things at all growing up. i have no real conception of who these folks were and to the extent that i did, i was just told that they were important men in my louisiana history and what's interesting is like robert e lee isn't even an important man and louisiana history. he's from virginia. their multiple levels to this certainty. >> so why are we told these things? by our children told these men are important to us and why should we revere these monuments? what you say to your kids about this? >> the reason so many of these confederate statues to slaveholders were erected with this specific intention of distorting their legacy and to mold their legacy and a way that was much more favorable than the reality of the project they were type two so this confederacy is by historical fact grounded in this document, a territory treating fist territory from the united states and raised an

to be conceptualized in 2017 watching the statutes come down of robert e lee, jefferson davis. what does that mean i grew up in the majority black city in which they were to enslaved people and how the city reckoned with or failed to reckon with its own relationship is ingrained and embedded in the physical infrastructure. and how so much of this -- i've been writing it for four years but so much of it is animated by trying to write into the gaps and fill the gaps i felt like i had experienced and that i was carrying from a young age trying to answer questions and fill the voids in my own education that i hadn't hadn't turns and it was a an attempt of trying to fill the gaps.iz >> i was wondering if you could read this one paragraph on page 171 when you talk specifically about what you said. the reasonen i want you to readt is because i want those that are here today to see how beautifully he renders the emotion and the memory and inspiration of m the book. white men on pedestals and where black people play trumpets and trombones to drown out the song. in my hometown in new orl

davis. that's an absolutely totally appropriate response to something that shouldn't have been there to begin with and definitely shouldn't be there now. i'm so happy they did that. actually, the great granddaughter of mr. stewart was the first descendant of one of the black veterans that i made contact with and has been very supportive with this. she was very much a mover in getting this name change. >> excellent. >> that's one story i wanted to make sure i got in there. >> that's an excellent story and definitely needs to be remembered. one thing i really enjoyed about the book too is it's not just a book of stories, but it's an excellent, excellent resource to actually go through the last part of your book where you've got these wonderful tables that have all the information about every person you found. one thing i found fascinating is it goes on for pages. the stories aren't well known, to be honest. if you ask the random person off the street how many african americans served from wisc

i had to go down jefferson davis highway. the street my parents live on today and after somebody who had over 150 insulate people. i didn't know those things at all really growing up. i had no real conception of who these folks were, and to the extent that i did i was just told that they were important men in louisiana history. what's interesting is that robert e. lee isn't even an important man in louisiana history. he's from virginia. there are multiple levels to the sort of absurdity. >> so why are we told these things? why our little children told these that are important to us and why should we review these monuments? why are they there? what do you say to your kids about this? >> the reason so many of these confederate statues and slaveholding statues to slaveholders were erected was with the specific intention of distorting their legacy, and to sort of mold their legacy in a way that was much more favorable than the reality of the project that they were tied to. so the confederacy is by fact, by like historical fact an

colored troops, instead of jefferson davis. i think that's an absolutely, totally appropriate response to -- um -- to something that shouldn't have been there, to begin with. but definitely, shouldn't be there now. # i am so happy they did that and actually the -- a great granddaughter of -- of mr. stewart was the first descendent of a vet, of one of the black veterans that i made contact with and has been very supportive with this. and she was very much a mover in getting this name change. so -- >> excellent. >> that's one story i wanted to make sure i got in there. >> that's an excellent story and definitely needs to be remembered. one thing i really enjoyed about the book, too, is it's not just a book of stories but it's an excellent, excellent resource to actually go through the last part of your book. where you have got these wonderful tables that have all the information about every person you found. and one thing that i found fascinating and was just -- it goes on for pages. and you think -- you know, the stories aren't

davis. and what happened there secession from the union and the destruction of the united states of america will talk about those kindsri of things but it does not have to be a statutes. i would be for removing those statues from public places, private properties, cemeteries, battlefields. >> host: does it surprise you right across the river here in arlington, virginia they rename the highway about a year ago? >> it does not surprise me. it's an attempt as david said to reconcile a country that of been torn apart but going too far, going too far with that. not thinking about the feelings and the sensibilities in one part of the citizenry that african-americans have been enslaved in the confederacy. and unionism. white people in the north and south remain loyal to the american nation which we talk about johnson that was a good point he believed in the american union. she went back to kate in sacramento's text she has a follow-up question, who is yourur next play in a book subject in my i sugg

jefferson davis was jailed for some time, but none of them really suffered. jefferson davis writes this huge memoir after he's released saying it was all about states' rights, nothing to do with slavery, the civil war. they're all there to propagate their own views and they're really not punished that harsh. did you have a question? jeremy. and then i'll come to you, ryan. >> yeah, the 13th amendment, like, originally stated there shall be no slavery except as a punishment for crime. so how significant do you think that played for, like, the south's part as far as like enforcing the black codes and that type of thing? >> yeah, very good question, jeremy. we're going to be talking about black codes, right? southerners use all kinds of legal and constitutional loopholes besides violence, like plain out violence, to undermine reconstruction and the project for black rights. so you know, people use criminality, this is when they start convicted black people for minor crimes. and then using them as convict labor. so you know, there are theories about mass incarcer

host: does it surprise you in arlington virginia the jefferson davis highway existed until about one year ago? >> it doesn't surprise me but it is an attempt to reconcile a countryry torn apart. that going too far with that. and not thinking about the feelings in the sensibilities of the citizenry of african-americans who were slaves in the confederacy and unionist, white people in the south who remained loyal to the american nation which when we talk about johnson that he believed in theel american union. host: there was a follow-up question what is the next planned book subject could i suggest clara barton or lucy stone as outspoken abolitionists quick. >> i have a couple of projects i have had to interrupt. and doing a second volume of the hemmings family story taking them from charlottesville and taking up through the civil war. at thepping them off beginning of the 20th century. because things change after that. world war i. the modern world begins in the old world they were a part of. they are not a coherent subject matter after that. and then there are people who continue want

in arlington, virginia, the jefferson davis highway existed until about a year ago? >> guest: well, it doesn't surprise me, but you know, it's an attempt as it's been said to reconcile a country that had been torn apart, but going too far, going too far with that, and not thinking about the feelings and the sensibilities of one part of the citizenry that is to say, you know, african americans who had been enslaved in the confederacy and unionists, white people in the north and the south who remain loyal to the american nation, which when we talk about johnson, that was a good point about him is that he believed in the american union. >> host: back to kate in sacramento's text, she had a follow-up question. who is your next planned book subject? and might i suggest clara barton or lucy stone, both outspoken abolitionists? >> guest: well, i had a couple projects that i had to interrupt to do juneteenth here, that i ended up pushing aside for the moment. i'm doing a second volume of the heming family story. i'm taking them from charlottesville, after jefferson dies in 1

davis highway existed until about a year ago. annette: this is an attempt to reconcile a country that had been torn apart but going too far. going too far with that and not thinking about the feelings in the sensibilities of one part of the citizenry. that african-americans who have been enslaved in the confederacy and the union is, my people in the north and in the south who remain loyal to the american nation we talked about johnson, is a good point about him is that he believed in the american union. peter: 'eight in sacramento, she had a follow-up question, how is your next clan a book subject am i suggest clara barton prices down, both outspoken abolitionists. annette: yes well i have a couple of projects that i had to interrupt to do juneteenth. i'm doing a second volume of the hemmings family story. and taking them from charlottesville after jefferson dies in 1926, and taking them throughout the civil war. and dropping them off at the beginning of the 20th century, the first couple of decades, it is a great war. things cha

the buildings you get history books you will always talk about robert e lee and jefferson davis. their secession from the union and the attempt the destruction of the united states of america. we talk about those kinds of things. i would be for moving the statues from public places,. >> does it surprise you right across the river here inha arlington, virginia the jefferson davis highway until about a year ago? >> it doesn't surprise me. it was an attempt to reconcile a country that have been torn apart. but going too far, goingar too far with that. not thinking about the feelings when part of the citizenry that african americans who had been enslaved in the confederacy and unionists. in the north and the south remained loyal to the american nation. we talk about johnson but that was a good point about him, he believed in the american union. stu went back to kate in hasacramento's text, shut a follow-up question. who is your next planned a booked subject and might i suggest clara barton or lucy stone both are outspoken abolitionists. >> i have a couple of projects i had to interru

so we didn't know until they changed the name that it was named after jefferson davis, the president of the confederacy right through the heart of the african-american community. but, in reality, i guess it made sense because african-americans didn't come into this community until after the war. it was close to the other parts of town where they were working. they could walk to work and walk back home. we're at the franklin primary health care center. that's the namesake for dr. james franklin. and dr. franklin actually grew up in tennessee. he went to school at lincoln university. and then he attended the university of michigan in 1909. upon arrival, he had to sleep in the boiler room which was where the air conditioning and heating equipment was. he took his trunk and that was his desk with a night lamp and he slept on a cot for four years. finished second in his medical class. dr. franklin was our grandfather. he was my maternal grandfather. so he comes back to alabama and starts practicing medicine in evergreen. and if i had known i had been doing this, i would be asking him a lo

it is surely enough just to quote from confederate president jefferson davis message to congress declaring that a stage of war existed with united states on april the 29th. 1861 quote in our independence. we seek no conquest. no aggrandizement. no session of any kind from the states with which we have lately. confederated all we ask is to be let alone and quote. but i ask let alone to do what? i will surprise to discover first enrichment virginia newspapers that confederate journalist boldly proclaimed that they were succeeding and fighting the war to change the world. naturally. we should use scholarly detachment about what is written in the press. but ambitious plans for the future will also expressed and then attempted to be implemented by leading confederate who my term the planners. many of them were politicians who did so in speeches proclamations and legislation from davis himself to his vice president alexander stevens and his old rival from mississippi days henry foote from across the confederate congress and state legislatures. business leaders also planned as evidenced by the pr

., jefferson davis highway. again, i street my parents live on today is named after somebody who was enslaving 1150 people so i didn't know those things at all growing up, i had no real conception of who these folks were and to the extent that i did, i was just told that they were important men in louisiana history and what's interesting is robert e lee is even an important man in louisiana history, he's from virginia so if there are multiple levels to this absurdity. >> so why are we told these things? are children told that these men are important to us and why should we revere fees monument friday that luck what you say to your kids about this the reason so many of these confederate statues statues slaveholders were erected was with this specific intention of distorting theirdi legacy and mold their legacy in a way that was much more favorable than the reality of the project they type two so the confederacy is by historical factde and grounded in document, a territory that defeated, from united states and rai

davis schools named after lecture represents late 1900 sf attempt to essentially gaslight this country into thinking who these men were is not who they actually for we see that like alexander stephens in 1861 a cornerstone speech where he says the confederacy is founded on the principle of superiority in the attempt to engage in child slavery. 1865 comes back and people are like what you have to say for yourself? you lost the war, this country attempted to this union and you said all these things about slavery and he was like, i never said that. they would like what you talking about? we were there and saw you, it was in the paper. he said he must be mistaken, i never said that. it's parallel to some of the same things we say now where people are trying to tell us we are not seen for we just saw an attempt to tell us that things are not about what the people have engaged in that behavior say so i learned about these things, many of the steps i learned from the process of writing the book, i think i knew he was named after confederate leader until maybe two years ago and this was my mid

lee boulevard and jefferson davis highway. the street by parents upon today is named after someone like that. so i didn't know those things that all growing up. i had no real conception of who these folks were handed extent that i did i was just told that they were important men in louisiana history. and what's interesting is robert e. lee isn't even an important men in louisiana history. is from virginia so there are multiple levels to this absurdity. >> so why are we told these things? why are children told these men are important and why do we revere these monuments and why are they there? what do you say to your kids about this? >> the reason that there were some newbies can confederate statues and statues were they were erected was with the specific intention of extorting their legacy and to sort of mold their legacy in a way that was much more favorable than the reality of the project that they were tied to so this confederacy is by facts, historical facts the territory that defeated treasonous territory that defeated th

so we didn't know until they change the name that it was named after just jefferson davis, the president of the confederacy, right through the heart of the african american community. but, in reality, i guess it made sense because african americans didn't come into the community until after the war, because it was close to the other parts of the town where they were working and they could walk to work and walk back home. we are at the franklin primary health care center. the name sake for dr. james franklin. doctor franklin, actually grew up in tennessee. he went to school at lincoln university. then he went to the university of michigan in 1909. and upon arrival he had to sleep in the boiler room. and he took his trunk, and that was his desk with a night lamp, and he slept on top of it for four years. he came in second in his medical class. doctor franklin was my maternal grandfather. he comes back to alabama and starts practicing medicine, and if i had known i've been doing this, i would've asking hate him a lot of questions. i had no idea would be doing this trail today. and first of

lincoln was being besieged by ministers and politician and he knew jefferson davis was also being staged saying god is on our side. i love this photograph and i think it is kind of a reflective thoughtful lincoln so here he's working this out and you never thought anybody would see this but as you think about it for a while you realize it is the foundation of the second inaugural address. a year before or two and a half years before, lincoln is asking the question where is god in the midst of a civil war. sometimes i think it is misunderstood in a couple of different ways, one lincoln doesn't know. he's humble he's not just going to be so arrogant to say i know that he does believe that there is a force working in the civil war. often these historians use the term fatalism to make that the general direction of lincoln's thinking but i discovered a book writtenhe by an episcopal minisr a man who would become one of the first professors of the seminary in cambridge whose international fatalism was a variety of unbelief, not belief. i think that now he moved over against fatalism to a god o

davis is also seized by a politician and ministers god is on our side. i love this photograph. so here lincoln is working never thought anybody would ever see this document but as you think about a while, it really is the foundation of the second inaugural address. howeverot you date it, a year before or two and a half years before lincoln asks the question, where is god in the midst of the civil war? sometimes a couple of different ways, one lincoln doesn't know, lincoln is humble, he's not going to be so arrogant to say i know but he does believe is a force working in the civil war and use the term fatalism, that direction of lincoln's thinking but i discovered a book written by a minister a man who come one of the first professors of the episcopal seminary in massachusetts so i think lincoln is on his journey against fatalism to a god of providence. no one in the second inaugural, john found it in his lincoln straw and that's why it's there now. he gave it the titleon meditati, lincoln did not title it. thinking out loud, what is the will of god? >> y

davis was beset by politicians and ministers,god is on our side. and i love this of lincoln, and he was working this out and never thought anyone would ever see this document, but as you think about it for a while, you realize it really is the foundation of the second inaugural address. however you date it, a year before, or two and a half years before lincoln is asking the question, really, where is god in the midst of a civil war? sometimes i think it's been misunderstood in a couple of different ways. one lincoln doesn't know. no, lincoln is humble, he's not going to be so arrogant to say i know, but he does believe that there's a force working in the civil war. often the historians have used the term fatalism to make that the general direction of lincoln's thinking, his causistic or determinative thinking. i discovered a book written by an episcopal minister in 1859, one in cambridge, massachusetts who said fatalism was a variety of unbeliefs, not beliefs. and i think that lincoln moved over from fatalism to a god of provenance. a god who acts

i also realized that what jefferson davis is saying in 1862 which is a response to the preliminary emancipation proclamation, in anticipation of it being passed in 1863, that black soldiers were going to be a fact and how to deal with them. interestingly, he makes this argument that these men do have to be delivered to state authorities in order to be dealt with. according to the laws of the states, for sure, which would definitely entail perhaps court processes, unfair court processes, as well as execution, but also this requires, essentially, keeping the men alive in order to deliver them to one place, from battlefield to executive authority of the state. so something to consider. i started pulling on this thread once i was thinking about this. okay, what was going on with these men? but as i went through the official records, i kept finding these really interesting details. i found out of more than 120 volumes of correspondence, four instances of testimony from black men themselves. these first-person testimonies. two were from black sailors from new york. two were from black sergeants who h

he knew that jefferson davis was being also used by politicians andministers saying god is on our side . i love thisphotograph . i think it's reflective thoughtful lincoln so here lincoln is working this out. he never thought tanybody would ever see this document. but as you think about it for a while you realize it really is the foundation ofthe second inaugural address. however you date it , a year before or two and half years before lincoln is asking the question really, where is god in the civil war? sometimes i think it's been misunderstood in a couple of different ways. one, lincoln doesn't know so lincoln is humble, he's not going to be so arrogant to say i know but he does believe that there's a force working in the civil war. often the historians have used the term elizabeth to make that the general direction of lincoln's thinking. his determinative thinking but i discovered a book written by an testable minister in 1859, a man who would become one of the first professors of the episcopal seminary in cambridge massachusetts who said actually fatalism was a party belief so i th

davis was being besieged by politicians and ministers saying god is on our side. i love this photograph, a thoughtful lincoln. lincoln is working this out and he never thought anybody would ever see this document, but as you think about it for a while, you realize, it really is the foundation of the second inaugural address. however you date it, a year before, or two and a half years before, lincoln is asking the question, really, where is god in the midst of the civil war? sometimes i think it's been misunderstood in a couple of different ways. one, lincoln doesn't know. no, lincoln is humble, he's not going to be so arrogant to say i know. but he does believe that there's a force working in the civil war, often the historians have used the term fatalism to make that death the general of lincoln's thinking as thinking. i've discovered a book written by an episcopal minister in 1859 a man one of the first professors of the first episcopal seminary, he says that it was a variety of belief not unbelief. so i think that lincoln on his journey moved over against fatal

davis. and what happened there secession from the union and the destruction of the united states of america will talk about those kindsri of things but it does not have to be a statutes. i would be for removing those statues from public places, private properties, cemeteries, battlefields. >> host: does it surprise you right across the river here in arlington, virginia they rename the highway about a year ago? >> it does not surprise me. it's an attempt as david said to reconcile a country that of been torn apart but going too far, going too far with that. not thinking about the feelings and the sensibilities in one part of the citizenry that african-americans have been enslaved in the confederacy. and unionism. white people in the north and south remain loyal to the american nation which we talk about johnson that was a good point he believed in the american union. she went back to kate in sacramento's text she has a follow-up question, who is yourur next play in a book subject in my i sugg

davis and what happened from their secession from the union and the construction of the will talk about these things statute so i would be full stature, private property cemeteries and battlefield across the river from d.c. highway until about a year ago surprise me but to reconcile a country that had been torn apart going too far with that thinking about sensibilities of one part of the summary african-americans enslaved in the confederacy and unionists, who remained loyal to the american nation and we talked about johnson, that was good about believed and. >> back to her and she had a follow-up, who is your next plant i suggest clara martin for lucy stone abolitionist. >> i have a couple of projects i had to interrupt to do juneteenth here but i ended up pushing aside for the moment during a second volume of the hemmings family story taking that from charlottesville after guys in 1826 taking civil war and dropping them off at the beginning of the 20th century, first couple of decades, the great war because things changed after that. world war i, modern world begins in the world that t