there was a near contemporaneous historian named lyman draper who traveled 50,000 miles by horseback interviewing. he didn't interview daniel boone himself, but he interviewed people who had hunted and fought old men by this point hunted and fought and pioneered with daniel boone and lyman drapers contemporaneous papers were so useful. so worthwhile to us in our research. and the thing that tom and i would go back on the phone saying do you believe this do you believe this i mentioned before cotton mather exterminate the heathens daniel boone had an empathy and the sympathy there's a difference between the two he had both for the indigenous peoples who were populated this continent millennia before we showed up from europe and for instance. he told his first biographer and school teacher named john filson. he said i'm not much of a religious man, but i have as much esteem for the shawnee or the cherokee great spirit as i do for the christian god. it seems to me they're both the same people he had perhaps naively a feeling that if he can only and this greats on 21st century sensibilit

referred to lyman draper, a sad character. he went 50,000 miles -- did all this research -- collected all these notes -- >> on horseback. >> -- spent years and years to be able to write this opus about one of the most remarkable characters in american history and he started writing and at a certain point developed writer's block and couldn't write anymore. and he died leaving his book unfinished. thankfully, his notes and interviews and everything are available to researchers and that was an enormous help to us. >> it was. sarah, it was a pile. i'm trying to think, it was 130,000 pages, something like that. it's at the wisconsin historical society. and you asked what our -- our system is, i guess is basically what you're asking, how do two people -- tom likes to say he writes one sentence, i write the next, he writes one sentence, i write the next. but what happened is we developed a very henry ford like assembly line. tom is -- you could send me into the library of congress or the national archives and i probably would come o

referred to lyman draper, a sad character. as bob said, he went 50,000 miles, he did all this research, he collected -- >> on horseback. >> on horseback. all these notes. spent years and years and years so he would be able to write this magnum opus about one of the most remarkable characters in american history and he started writing and at a certain point developed writer's block and couldn't write anymore. and he died leaving his book unfinished. thankfully, his notes and interviews and everything are available to researchers and that was an enormous help to us. >> it was. sarah, it was a pile. i'm trying to think, it was 130,000 pages, something like that. it's at the wisconsin historical society. and you asked what our -- our system is, i guess is basically what you're asking, how do two people -- tom likes to say he writes one sentence, i write the next, he writes one sentence, i write the next. but what happened is we developed a very henry ford like assembly line. tom is -- you could send me into the library of congress