nicole saphier is getting a workout, right? heading to flex everything to get us through all of this. before we go, just a real quick less art from you, doctor? b3 you know, abby, the most important thing that came out of that england study was the fact that they noted of the kids who are hospitalized or died from covid-19 or reportedly died from that, about 40% of them actually didn't die or were hospitalized from covid-19's of the numbers they had were not even accurate, the united states has not done their due diligence to do the same thing. >> harris: yeah, that's interesting. i was reading today and i said it during the 29, the amount of money that the nih and other agencies spent on covid from the big pot of cash they had to spend from was really minuscule and none of it apparently unmasking. my head just popped off but we will continue pay just ahead, a chicago officer, and we will say her name here. shot and killed in the line of duty this weekend. the moving tribute from her fellow officers'. this is ella french, 29 ye

nicole saphier. we have got new reports that the white us is really frustrated over the poor data on covid-19 that is behind a lot of restriction policies and things like mask mandates. you may be shocked at the dramatically low percentage of covid-19 samples that have been genetically tested for variants in the u.s. you're going to be surprised how low the u.s. ranks around the world in this list. is the u.s. making flawed restriction policies when they don't really know what is going on with variants? keep it here on "the evening edit." >> so many times people like tony fauci have been moving the goalposts. they have been misleading the american people because they think they know better. medical bureaucrats in washington, d.c. have no clear what american people are ready to hear. they should tell the people the facts. let people make up their own mind. i have a lot of faith in the american people but bureaucrats like tony fauci don't [ nautical horn blows ] i mean just because you look like someon

malliotakis, angelo santabarbara, roger marshall, doctor nicole saphier, former acting dhs secretary chad wolf and congressman john carico and andy harris, were watching your money the senate is set to vote within hours on the 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill and theyhe worn it does not pay for, but this morning from lindsey graham he says you know the next $3.5 trillion bill that democrats want to pass with just democrat votes senator brand warning there's nothing to stop democrats from raising your taxes by $3.5 trillion, another deadly weekend across the u.s., caught shot dead and another fighting for his life we have new polls showing concern over violent crime now at highest in years and the new report the white house is frustrated over poor data on covid-19, this ass you may be shocked at the dramatically low percentage of covid-19 samples that are genetically tested for variance and how low the u.s. ranks around the world, think low and then think lower, is the u.s. making flawed research and policies when they don't even know what is going on. the new york times and th

nicole saphier. how are you doing? it seems to me that the democrats want to hold onto the so-called pandemic crisis, take away our freedom, one size and that's why you have this idea of an interstate passport requiring everyone to be vaccinated. what say you in this? >> it's absolutely unbelievable. i almost didn't recognize you without your hat on. but you are doing a great job posting "hannity." i'm trying to get my hand on one of those hats. the reality is that it is a one-size-fits-all approach. with the biden administration. if you look at is overall it really seems like there is a lot more here than just trying to keep americans safe. the reality is that this is so much about control. if you are trying to socialize a country and ultimately turn america into a socialist nation, then maybe you go along and you see just how far you can push people, how long can you lock people down, how long you can make everyone wear masks, hello you can make our kids in school wear masks. gosh, are we going to have to have a vacc

nicole saphier, great to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >> trace: we're learning that covid-19 vaccines will be mandatory for all active duty troops. it's an announcement from the defense secretary as soon as tomorrow. lucas tomlinson is live at the pentagon with more. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, trace. a short time ago, i asked lloyd austin why he's doing this. he refused to answer. >> why are you making the covid mean mandatory? >> thank you. we're leaving now. >> last week president biden said he was directing the pentagon to examine how-1 manda. the department of justice was into the legality of mandating it since it's yet to be approved by the fda, a vaccine mandate will require a presidential waiver. >> many vaccinations are required for active duty today. i'm asking the defense department to look into how and when they will add covid-19 to the list of vaccinations for our armed forces must get. >> 64% of the u.s. military's 1.3 active duty forces have been fully vaccinated. that's more than 50% of the

nicole saphier author of panic attacks. we're trying not to have one right now because we see the ne cases popping up 44 percent jum in new cases and when you look at that seven day rolling average of new cases, dr. anthony fauci is getting a lot of pushback on that that wearing a face mask is not a personal choice. are we on the road to a federal mask mandate in this country? >> sandra, i don't think so. first of all, i think one of th biggest services we're doing to our country right now is we don't actually know who is bein tested, why they're being tested , we just keep looking at these new cases. are these all symptomatic people ? the answer to that is no. but really shouldn't be? why are we doing so much surveillance testing on people who have been fully vaccinated are people who have recovered from covid 19 because those positive pcr tests may be completely clinically insignificant and should not wa in any policy decisions. what i would like to look at more is the symptomatic cases, the hospitalizations and the despe

nicole saphier a fox news medical contributor. dr. robert redfield was on with martha last night. >> the policies should be grounded in data as opposed to opinion. one of the things i think is really important in the classroom, for example, is how to identify the silent epidemic and why we've recommended in a number of jurisdictions doing this to do routine testing of all the students twice a week so they can find out who is infected and who isn't and get them out of the classroom. >> dana: one is their data to show kids need to be wearing masks in schools, is there? and what did ever happen to the whole idea of tracking and tracing? testing and tracing? >> dana, these are all great questions and unfortunately the cdc and the american academy of pediatrics continue to not be able to give an actual portrayal of the risk to children as it pertains to delta and covid-19 yet they continue to put forth recommendations that turn into policy without data to back it. completely ignore potential consequences. i can tell you, dana, this is gett

nicole saphier and dr. marty makary. dr. saphier, i want to begin with you. i want to focus on thesees breakthrough cases and hesitancy. let me be very clear. what we are seeing with various cases, it happened to lindsey graham and that got washington's attention clearly. it happened to one of my best friends this weekend. immediately he had a regeneron infusion and i can report today that he had a great day and is feeling better. that was saturday he was diagnosed, sunday he had the infusion entities on otheric therapeutics. then, you have provincetown. 165 million americans vaccinated and .05 breakthrough cases, very low. but provincetown to me needs to be studied, how does happen that nearly 500 cases and 74% of those cases were breakthroughle cases, people fully vaccinated, even though the hospitalization rate was very low and the death rate was very low, it still concerns me. and i think it concerns a lot of americans. >> absolutely. unfortunately we don't have all the answers i because of right are being asked. why were these individuals tested to come

fox news medical contributor doctor of nicole saphier with leo 2.0 terrell ralph. i can't help myself. leo, you saw the video. you look out there and he go to the political side in the medical side. how do you get away with this hypocrisy, the lectures, the mandates and i will get to this with dr. nicole mandating they've approved the vaccine, fda approved, now they're going to mandate employers have a vaccine mandate, what does that mean? you have a pre-existing condition, your doctor says no get it, no medical exemption for you had covid, natural antibodies, no exceptions. i don't know about this one-size-fits-all medicine, do you? >> i don't and first of all, that's not dancing. i don't know what that is. that is not dancing at all. the problem here is this, afghanistan is the focal point. that's what you see with chuck schumer entertaining and enjoying himself. the nancy pelosi situation is the classic double standard. that is exactly why her golden boy gavin newsom is facing a recall. it is a classic elitist mind-set that the democrats have. the rules do not a

nicole saphier. dr. saphier, you've been following covid as closely as anybody i know. you've seen what's happening at our southern border. we know most people are not being tested, we know they are being displaced all throughout the country, we know there's a high rate of covert positivity. is it likely that, as a result of these policies, americans will contract covid? that some will also be hospitalized, and people will die because of these very s policies, open borders? >> well, sean, this is a very heated discussion, topic of discussion, right now. tole i can't really attest what is happening at the border, i can tell you that, when it comes to infectious disease and the migrants crossing our southwestern border, that's always been an issue. we've always had concerns about tuberculosis, bringing antibiotic resistance, and other sort of infectious diseases that here in the united states may be under control. but some of those migrants coming from south america maybe don't have the same medical care or vaccination rates that we do here. the same is to be said when it

nicole saphier with leo 2.0 terrell. i can't help myself. leo, you saw the video. you look out there and we'll go to the political side in the medical side. how do you get away with this hypocrisy, the lectures, the mandates and i will get to this with dr. nicole, mandating they've approved the vaccine fda approved, now they're going to mandate employers have a vaccine mandate, what does that mean? you have a pre-existing condition, your doctor says no don't get it, no medical exemption for you had covid, natural antibodies, no exceptions. i don't know about this one-size-fits-all medicine, do you? >> i don't and first of all that's not dancing. i don't know what that is. that is not dancing at all. the problem here is this. afghanistan is the focal point. that's what you see with chuck schumer entertaining and enjoying himself. t the nancy pelosi situation is the classic double standard. that is exactly why her golden boy gavin newsom is facing a recall.ta it is a classic elitist mind-set that the democrats have. the rules do not apply to them. one size politicall

nicole saphier, dr. reed harvard educated medical school. about these breakthrough cases. we will also discuss something often overlooked and that is the incredible therapeutics that are now being used to treat not just breakthrough cases, but all cases. that includes, yes, the cocktail known as regeneron, the eli lilly version of regeneron. and hydroxychloroquine,i every method, you get to decide but sadly the health experts andnd biden administration do not appear capable of providing clear, consistent and guidance on everywhere, it is flipping and flopping and flailing all over the place.si people rightly are getting angry, and they feel like they don't know this is a gang that can't shoot straight. they don't know what they are doing. last week the white house said that strict, vaccines mandates. wow, i didn't think that would happen but it did. the teachers unions interestingly they are coming out against the mandates. all of a sudden, it's not exactly clear where the biden administration stands on the issue.e. of course, democrats every election season, they rake in

nicole saphier and dr. dominic dr. makary is with you. i want to really, really focus on these breakthrough cases and hesitancy. now let me be very clear here. what we are seeing with breakthrough cases, fully vaccinated people, happened with lindsey graham, that got washington's attention. it happened to one of my best friends this weekend. immediately, he had some general confusion. i can report today he had a great day. sunday he had the therapeutics and thank god, sunday he is doing well. then you have provincetown. once we have millions of americans vaccinated, .75 breakthrough cases, very low but provincetown to me needs to be studied. how did i happen that nearly 500 cases and 74% of those cases were breakthrough cases, people fully vaccinated even though the hospitalization rate, very low, death rate, very low, it still concerns me and i think it is concerning a lot of americans. >> absolutely and unfortunately we don't have all the answers because the right questions are not being asked. why were they tested? were they all asympt

nicole saphier. dr. saphier, you've been following covid as closely as anybody i know. you've seen what's happening at our southern border. we know most people are not being tested, we know they are being displaced all throughout the country, we know there's a high rate of covert positivity. is it likely that, as a result of these policies, americans will contract covid? that some will also be hospitalized, and people will die because of these very policies, open borders? >> well, sean, this is a very heated discussion, topic of discussion, right now. while i can't really attest to what is happening at the border, i can tell you that, when it comes to infectious disease and the migrants crossing our southwestern border, that's always been an issue. we've always had concerns about tuberculosis, bringing antibiotic resistance, and other sort of infectious diseases that here in the united states may be under control. but some of those migrants coming from south america maybe don't have the same medical care or vaccination rates that we do here. the same is to be said when

nicole saphier, dr. reed harvard educated medical school. about these breakthrough cases. we will also discuss something often overlooked and that is the incredible therapeutics that are now being used to treat not just breakthrough cases, but all cases. that includes, yes, the cocktail known as regeneron, the eli lilly version of regeneration. and hydroxychloroquine come every method, you get to decide but sadly the health experts and biden administration do not appear capable of providing clear, consistent and guidance on everywhere, it is flipping and flopping and flailing all over the place. people rightly are getting angry, and they feel like they don't know this is a gang that can't shoot straight. they don't know what they are doing. last week the white house said that strict, faxing mandates. wow, i didn't think that would happen but it did. the teachers unions, interestingly they are coming out against the mandates. all of a sudden, it's not exactly clear where the biden administration stands on the issue. of course, democrats every election season, they rake in m

nicole saphier says biden should be consistent when dealing with covid-19 from foreign countries. >> when it comes to infectious disease and the migrants crossing our southwestern border, that's always been an issue. it doesn't really make sense that we're going to put travel bans on the u.k. and other of places across the globe because of certain variants circulating, yet we do have people coming from the southwest border. if we do not have the resources to test, trace, quarantine and to ensure follow-up, then, no, that would be irresponsible and then that could lead to further spread. todd: the city of laredo texas found that 40% of migrants who were puffed in tested positive for covid-19. jillian: a minneapolis democratic leader defending rioters who burned a police precinct as a, quote, act of pure righteousness as the minnesota supreme court refuses to review an order to hire 700 police officers. nolan wecht is here to react. thank you for being here. here's the headline it says, quote, the cops started it. south side pride. it says like it or not, setting the third precinct on

nicole saphier doctor have to thank you iou a drink you're very fantastic thank you for that guidance a few weeks ago. >> absolutely. and here we are together again because those breakthrough cases and folate vaccinated are overwhelmingly like an annoying summer cold which you can attest too. >> was talk about children. based on the medical evidence that what you have seen, is the delta variant more dangerous for children than proved previous iterations are variants of covid? what guys this is important to get rights. we have to know by looking at the data not just the u.s. data looking at the data from other countries, israel, uk and more there are rising cases of sars covid two in children but because they are cases it's leading to more illness more hospitalizations. the number of children have been hospitalized has increased. we look at the rate of hospitalization that has actually gone down. it's about a 2% hospitalization rate in children that is now down to 1%. if you turn on the headlines you think children from covid-19. here's the thing the children less than 18 still make up

nicole saphier says the president has been inconsistent when it comes to dealing with covid-19 from foreign countries. >> when it comes to infectious disease and the migrants crossing our southwestern border, that's all been an issue. it doesn't really make sense that we're going to put travel bans on the u.k. and other places across the globe because of certain variants circulating, yet we do have people coming from the southwest border. if we do not have the resources to test, trace, quarantine and to ensure follow-up, then, no, that would be i responsible and then that -- irresponsible and that could lead to further spread. jillian: 40% of migrants that were buffed in from the border tested positive for covid-19. todd: the white house vowing to flight ron de santiss threat to cut teacher salaries over mask mandates. jillian: they used incorrect data to back up the logic. ashley strohmier joins us with more as the cdc scrambles to correct itself. >> reporter: the white house denied it was waging war against governor ron de santis. take a listen for yourself. >> our war is not on de santis

nicole saphier, a fox medical contributor. you have to have a vaccine pass important or proof to get into a new york city restaurant or a gym now. >> you know, i obviously have a lot of opinions on this. the point is what is the end point here? we're looking at harm reduction strategies but we have to do them smartly. new york city is trying to emulate what we're seeing in france and other places across the world. what the difference is, new york city only proof of vaccination will do. now you look at france and other countries. they accept natural immunity, proof of recent infection as a form of immunity. they say for people that can't get vaccinated or who have chosen not to get vaccinated, they need a negative test result to prove they're not infecting other people. we have to allow some movement so people are not feeling so boxed in. there are people that cannot go and get the vaccine. maybe they're waiting for the fda approval? i don't know. what is the end point? look at new york city. less than 20 cases per 100,000 peop

nicole saphier. dr. saphier, when you start to see it put into graphs like it was on the cover of the "new york post" last week, i've seen it in other areas it puts into far dirt perspective with headlines. where are we with respect to the risk, what should we be doing and where do we go for here? >> charles this is a very important topic of conversation. even the cdc and white house are having infighting because of the messaging. the white house is feeling that the cdc is leading fear-mongering headlines causing people to panic when they don't need to be. really at the end of the day the message needs to show how well the vaccines have really uncoupled severe diseases from new cases. we're seeing an increase of transmission. delta variant is contagious. we're seeing some people fully vaccinated get symptoms after they have been exposed to the virus again but what does appear to have happened, those who are fully vaccinated if they are exposed again, if they get symptoms, the far majority, it is like a s

nicole saphier joins us now. the president touched ton importance of getting kids back to school. there has been a back and forth between him and a couple of governors in florida and texas about getting masks on kids going back to school. that will be the latest argument between the schools, the governor, and the government. should kids be masked when they go back to school in your opinion? >> julie, first of all nothing is black and white. i do -- we did correct president biden said 350 million americans had been vaccinated. 350 million doses have been administered. that's one of the strongest vaccination campaigns of our history. over 70% of americans have gotten at least one dose. we know immunity is rising. as it comes to children, it is incredibly frustrating and disheartening to see how they continue to be politicized throughout the course of this pandemic. and so when we look at them going back to school we talk about yes, they have to be in person and full-time. but it is not just that. we have data after data showing us the consequences of them being taken out of school f

nicole saphier, some good news and some not so good news they are. the good news is the governor says that the schools will reopen in the fall, that this is not permanent. he wants to prevent an outbreak, but one thing that i wanted you to drill down on, doctor, he said anyone who tells you you can safely open schools without masks is lying to you, what do you think about that statement? >> the one thing he did not mention is a new jersey mom of three which is why i have a massive opinion on what we just listen to. >> john: we omitted that. give us the opinion. >> i think that he is blessed with the gift of >> anita: a lot of rhetoric. i think that they are missing the mark when it comes to school reopening, yes. first and foremost, getting children back in person learning full-time is the most important thing. absolutely, but i don't think that it is as black-and-white as people want to see. new jersey is not where arkansas, florida, and other states in the sun belt are right now with low vaccination levels and high case transmission. here in new je

nicole saphier fox news contributor. we're waiting for a peak maybe the end of august still. is the peak in sight? he says we're not there yet. >> i can tell you i respect dr. collins immensely but i don't appreciate the hype he shallly. -- the last year and a half has been bad. we won't see it that bad again. no, the worst is not yet to come. do we have rising cases in the united states right now? absolutely. in fact, we're almost at 50% of where we were during the winter months but it is not necessarily just about new cases. we know the virus is still transmitting but we have to look at our hospitalizations and deaths. our deaths are still about 10% what those were in the winter months, bill. that's important to remember. so while they reported younger people are being hospitalized with covid-19, that is because that's the population that hasn't been vaccinated at the same prevalence that the older populations have. so good news in the sense our elderly are being protected. bad news is we still have a large amount of the 20 to 49-year-olds choosing not to get the vaccine. t

nicole saphier. let's get to the masks in just a second, but there has been a marked increase in the number of cases among young people from the week of july 29 until augus0 824 cases, that represented 15 percent of all covid cases. parents are becoming increasingly concerned. what is your message to them? >> john, undoubtedly, i want to get out of the minutia and look at the big picture. we have a rise of new cases in children when it comes to sars co. v2. the rate of hospitalization seems to be constant or even lower than it was last year. because we are seen to marquesas, we are seeing more children being hospitalized right as were heading into the new school year, we're all starting to wonder if our kids are safe. i can tell you i want people to remember that while about one of every to hundred children exposed to this virus may be hospitalized with covid 19, at the risk in young children of rsv, which every parent is well aware of what rsv is, it's another respiratory virus, the risk of hospital

nicole saphier, lives in new jersey and she said this. watch. >> dr. fauci last summer said when we get to below 5% positivity, then schools should be able to open up free and clear. guess what? here we are. less than 5% positivity in new jersey. we have one of the highest vaccination rates in the country. we have some of the lowest case transmission rates in the country. and yet we're saying that all children k-12 have to be masked. >> sounds like governor murphy is the definition of moving the goal posts what do you think? >> i can understand her frustration. a pandemic by its very nature is a situation of uncertainty. things are changing. when the governor said we wouldn't be moving to masks, fauci said we would be back to a normal feeling, i was feeling optimistic what school could look like. then the delta variant arrived. that's changed things. it's so critically important that we keep in people's minds the idea that as the situation changes, guidance needs to change. what we're seeing with the delta variant is that it is far more contagious than

saphier and marc siegel will be here. oregon drops proficiency requirements for math and readings for high school graduation. loudoun county tearfully quits over critical race theory. a lot to talk about the next two hours. i'm john roberts. join shannon bream and me at the top of the hour for america reports. see you then. ♪ >> kayleigh: gold medal winning wrestler tamyra after winning gold in the 68-kilogram final. that moment went viral when she said, quote: i love representing the u.s. i freakin' love living here. reflecting on that moment again today. watch. >> when he asked me that, i felt like i went into transand got spoke through me. i look at the camera and just go. and i know that there has been a lot of negativity going on and i just want to enlighten people of my feelings to spread positivity shoot, it happened. >> kayleigh: carley, when i saw tamyra mensa stock her joy was contagious. i almost tead up. watched her hold herself in that flag and hug it. >> carley: i'm glad you are saying that even looking at

. >> bill: a host of questions from nicole saphier and former doj prosecutor and hello to both of you, doctor, will this encourage more to get vaccinated or not? >> i think you will see what other countries have seen. a small bump in vaccines for the next couple of days just because it will be an inconvenience for people but i don't think this is a good long-term solution. it doesn't make sense in terms of an endpoint. new york city has less than 20 cases per 100,000 population. about 1 to 3 people dying daily and it completely ignores the fact that you have upwards of 10 million children with natural immunity who have such lower risk of a severity of covid than any vaccinated adult. unvaccinated children have the same risk as a vaccinated adult. at some point the united states has to start following the science and truly start acknowledging natural immunity and the fact that children are at very low risk. the vaccine passports don't make sense and don't follow the science. >> bill: watch that. you say we've gone from urging, to bribing, to mandating. is it legal? >> yeah, we have and

saphier take you both for being with us, professor, let's hear your case you're saying it's unnecessary in the state doesn't have a compelling interest, why. >> good morning, this is pretty straightforward, i got covid early on, i wish i hadn't got covid, i know what it's like to get covid and i don't want to get it again so i'm not cavalier about this but i did get covid and if i had been vaccinated that i would've gone vaccinated but they would didn't exist. but i did get covid in my colleagues wants to make me get vaccinated in order to do my job and the evidence is clear on this which a natural immunity is as least as good as it's not better protection at least covid perfection with all the vaccines on the market i've been working with immunologist and i have a series of antibody test that show that my immune protection is very high and there is a lot of evidence, all the evidence points to the idea that those had natural immunity, or an elevated risk of side effects, for me is literally all of the risk and none of the benefit of getting vaccinated at this point but it's even worse

nicole sapphire. good morning, dr. saphier. double masks in philadelphia. of course, the vaccine mandate as well, but double masking. there's just no scientific -- i defer to you. there doesn't seem to be any scientific backing for these measures. >> well, will, obviously what we want to see is to get high vaccination rates in the majority of the country x that's going to help lower the transmission risks. so in addition to these vaccine mandates, i guess they're saying if you're not going to be vaccinated, then you have to be double masked. well, yes and no, masks do work in certain situations. small congregated indoor situations if you do wear a medical grade mask, it can lessen transmission. it doesn't get to zero, but it does lessen it. and some people are saying you can wear a cloth mask outdoors, which we know does nothing, so they're trying to tailor it, but they're more just grasping at i straws at this point. we really should be focusing on increasing vaccination rates, we should absolutely be acknowledging the fact that if someone has proof of pri