replacing it with a taliban flag. we have seen that a lot in the capital. it has left a lot of people very upset. >> the international monetary fund is withholding 400 60 million dollars from afghanistan citing a lack of clarity over government recognition. the u.s. has frozen $9.5 billion of afghan government assets. nearly the entire reserve of its central bank. the u.s. defense secretary has concluded evacuations from kabul have not met their target. lloyd austin has said american troops don't have the capacity to extend the on the airport perimeter to get -- to help you get more people out of afghanistan. the british prime minister says the u.k. will do all that can to avert a humanitarian crisis in afghanistan. boris johnson says he does not believe military action against the taliban is an option. president joe biden says he disagrees with the world health organizations warning against giving coronavirus booster shots. he has unveiled plans to offer them from september. stay with us. inside story is up next. ♪

so the taliban went to war with the taliban let afghanistan in 2000. what we have seen with iran over the more recent years, particularly with its relationship -- particularly as its relationship with the u.s. got worse, it started to funnel arms to the taliban. i think that's was -- that was meant to poke the u.s. in the eye and present more strength to america's rival in afghanistan. for iran, its major interest and concern is the she a muslim community in afghanistan. they are the religious minority in afghanistan, a very vulnerable community. the taliban, many of the murder. i run will wordy -- worry about their security. i think they will look to get reassurances that [indiscernible] iran does have a potential asset in afghanistan. there is a shia built militia on afghanistan that iran cultivated to deploy to the middle east and fight in the wars there. iran has the option if things came to to reconstitute that afghan/shia militia and try to deploy to protect the shieh community. that is an advantage iran has. final point, it worries about the tal

ambassador basically to the taliban negotiations has askedal the taliban, do not come into kabul under strength under the americans are out. so, it's not a question of they're not coming in, it's don't come in until americans and their allies are evacuated hopefully within 72 hours. the initial troop withdrawal from afghanistan to target multiple cities in recent days. this morning the taliban did seize control of the eastern city of jalalabad near the pakistan border. just yesterdaypa the taliban captured sharif after we were on air yesterday morning and jalalabad and kabul are still in government possession and now only one of those three cities are under control of the government.co we're not sure how much control the government has over kabul. this follows the taliban's recent capture of key cities of kandahar and, their spiritual home and take over of the country. right now 25 of the 34 capitals are in taliban control and only one major city is not and that major city is kabul. joining me from there because you are going to find this man in a place where everybody else has left in

to the taliban. china has been one of the first major nations who in fact is the first major nation to say that some actually, it could do business at the new taliban government, and will probably be recognising it. russia has had talks already, but encouragingly, russia special�*s envoy to afghanistan has spoken to his opposite number in the us, so thatis his opposite number in the us, so that is encouraging because the only way that is going to be lasting peace in afghanistan is if all the countries in the region can agree on what it looks like. i have to say that to looking down the future, i think the west will be a lot less relevant. china will want its mineral resources from afghanistan it russia well one day peaceful stable border or border area on those southern republics that stand between afghanistan and its own territory. iran has its own interests there. ararat is very close to the iranian border. but all of those countries will certainly china, russia and iran that have bad relations a

weill. has to deal with the taliban? well, remember. — has to deal with the taliban? well, remember. we _ has to deal with the taliban? well, remember, we went _ has to deal with the taliban? well, remember, we went to _ has to deal with the taliban? -ii remember, we went to afghanistan because the taliban government at the time welcomed the terrorists who caused the 9/11 attacks. this is a democratic government being replaced, overthrown by a military body which contains a large number of people regarded by international communities as terrorists. there have been talks in doha in qatar between the united states and the taliban. we don't know the status of those, but the people of afghanistan... inaudible. a brutal totalitarian... inaudible. a brutal totalitarian. .. ~ ., . inaudible. abrutaltotalitarian... ., ., a brutal totalitarian. .. more than a decade a90- _ a brutal totalitarian. .. more than a decade age it _ a brutal totalitarian. .. more than a decade ago. it is _ a brutal totalitarian. .. more than a decade ago. it is quite _ a brutal totalitarian. .. more

the taliban have... with respect, mr zakhilwal, what we see right now is the united states has cut off all of afghanistan's dollar reserves. that's billions and billions of us dollars. we see the imf has also, for the moment, suspended all economic assistance to afghanistan. we see an economy that, until two weeks ago, was 40% reliant on international economic aid and assistance. that's all gone. you'd think if the taliban were serious about trying to get some of those economic lifelines restored, they might be doing more to reach out in terms of guaranteeing rights, guaranteeing political pluralism. we're not seeing it. yeah. and that's what we are trying to get them to understand, the severity of the economy of the country, the enormity of the responsibility on their shoulders, and they must... time should be of the essence, enough urgency to them and that a political settlement, absolutely something that the economy of the future of this country will depend upon. and we hope they realise the enormity

-taliban talks in doha. meanwhile, former afghan president hamid karzai held talks today with the head of the haqqani network, a powerful faction of the taliban. this all comes as the taliban moves to secure its control of afghanistan. on tuesday, the taliban held a news conference where they promised amnesty for former government officials and pledged to eradicate opium production. the taliban also made promises to protect some rights of journalists and women. >> government offices will be activated soon and all employees, including women, returned to work and work in areas permitted by sharia law. we and you see that in the field of medicine, education, police, and other sectors of society. we need women because it is a necessity of society. amy: despite the taliban's pledges, many women across afghanistan have not left their homes since the taliban seized control. earlier today, the taliban opened fire on hundreds of protesters in northeastern jalalabad who marched through the streets holding the black, r

the american government lamed the taliban -- blamed the taliban for harboring al qaeda. the taliban says it has changed since it was last in power. we have more on how they may govern this time around. reporter: step-by-step, a return to rule. ever since the taliban signed a deal last year with the u.s., their old enemy, they have been emboldened. moments like this started to shift their international image. then suddenly, this summer, district by district, they were back in charge. these scenes were recently filmed for us in a province at the gates of kabul. scenes of an orderly transition, the taliban taking over, taking care of the people. but more grislyeos have been surfacing. alleged abuses and atrocities. whato you say to those who fear the return of the taliban? >> they should not fear because the government that will come after this will be acceptable to all. reporter: taliban rule that returns to afghanistan will be different than the one they govern so harshly in the lat 1990's. we have reported on the change, however imperfect over the last two decades. no on

the taliban could make it to kabul, and that— the taliban could make it to kabul, and that in— the taliban could make it to kabul, and that in itself is a big fear. they've — and that in itself is a big fear. they've always... even while a good negotiating with the americans. no was the answer, there was no political settlement. by the 13th of august, this was the us assessment. kabul is not right now in an imminent— kabul is not right now in an imminent threat— kabul is not right now in an. imminent threat environment. clearly. — imminent threat environment. clearly. if— imminent threat environment. clearly. if you _ imminent threat environment. clearly, if you just _ imminent threat environment. clearly, if you just look - imminent threat environment. clearly, if you just look at - imminent threat environment. | clearly, if you just look at what the taliban _ clearly, if you just look at what the taliban have _ clearly, if you just look at what the taliban have been - clearly, if you just look at what the taliban have been doing, . clearly, if you just look at what . the taliba

that taliban and this taliban is that the taliban of 2001 were new. and now this taliban is experienced, disciplined. our activities are going well. we are obeying our leaders. >> reporter: a lot of people are concerned that if the taliban takes power again, women's rights will move backwards. how can you guarantee that women's rights will be protected? >> translator: we assure this to people all over the world, especially the people of afghanistan. islam has given rights to everyone equally. women have their own rights. how much islam has given rights to women, we will give them that much. >> reporter: that is clearly open for interpretation. next to the mosque, we find a classroom of young girls. but their teacher says they will only receive religious education and will not attend regular school. at night, i am separated from my male colleagues and sleep in the women's part of the house with the children. i've been talking to some of the women in this room, and i promised that i wouldn't show any of their faces. but it's interesting because, you kno

there is a huge pakistani taliban presence, people disaffected by the pakistani taliban or who were in groups who crossed over into isis. this is seen as a for tile battle space -- as a fertile battle space by isis. >> let me get this straight. what you are saying also is the group, in your opinion, wants to establish a caliphate and also wants to reestablish some sort of relevance in afghanistan. >> they are already relevant. they just have to expand their operations. they have to take advantage of the strategic vacuum that has been created. they will want to expand into pakistan as well, where there is fertile ground. places on the western periphery of afghanistan that were formerly under the control at one point, from 2007 to the early 2010s, by the pakistani taliban. this is a battle space that they know. at the end of the day, isis in afghanistan are people from outside. this is isis parachuting people from the mothership. in the arab world, these are locals who are battle hardened, they know the terrain, and they are coming out under a new label and see they have a better opportu

taliban of 20 years ago. i think the jury is out. i think that there are a lot of, as joe biden said, the other day, the taliban has a lot of interests and not to be trusted, but their interests are aligned for the moment in trying to show the world that it is not the same organization. it was 20 years ago, i was surprised that mackenzie did embrace them as much as he did. there are so many other generals that have made exactly the antithetical case that you cannot trust the taliban at all. and people's lives and teachers are in very much in jeopardy, particularly any one that stood by us. it was interesting. the general also made a big point about the challenges that isis is going isis k is going to put on the taliban describing it them as the biggest challenge for the taliban going forward. how. how much of a worry is isis for not just the tele body for the world at large molina, i think isis k is a very big challenge. not only there, but i think you know where they are in yemen where they are in other plac

i between the taliban right now and the taliban— between the taliban right now and the taliban 20 _ between the taliban right now and the taliban 20 years _ between the taliban right now and the taliban 20 years ago. - between the taliban right now and the taliban 20 years ago. those . between the taliban right now and the taliban 20 years ago. those in power— the taliban 20 years ago. those in power 20 — the taliban 20 years ago. those in power 20 years _ the taliban 20 years ago. those in power 20 years ago _ the taliban 20 years ago. those in power 20 years ago killed - the taliban 20 years ago. those in power 20 years ago killed people. the taliban 20 years ago. those in i power 20 years ago killed people and i don't _ power 20 years ago killed people and i don't know— power 20 years ago killed people and i don't know when _ power 20 years ago killed people and i don't know when they _ power 20 years ago killed people and i don't know when they will _ power 20 years ago killed people and i don't know when they will start - i don't know when they will start again _ i don't

it is clear that the tallahassee a taliban /* -- taliban are involved. today with greater urgency in negotiations with the president with his advisors with the americans at some location here. it's not clear if it is in kabul. it was said to me by the presidential palace there are no taliban in the presidential palace at this point, having these negotiations. but a lot moving here today. i have never seen a day like this in 20 years in afghanistan. it is seismic and the pace in which the taliban appear to be able to dictate how this unfolds is utterly startling and a chronic indictment of u.s. intelligence assessments. 30 days was their worst idea. we are here right now. it is essentially encircled. you can just see in the fact that there are apaches flying over the embassy compound here, releasing defensive flares thatner not relaxed about getting people out. this is moving out. joe biden suddenly with a wave of his hand it seems bringing 1,000 more troops into country. something announced last night, is a startling move and shows, i think, the urgency

they've had many battles with the existing taliban and seems like the taliban was pointing the finger to groups like this. how does this complicate our getting out of town effort, presumably to get done by tuesday? >> i would suggest this is the reason that the president has decided to get out of afghanistan. the problem is when you pull out of places like afghanistan, you leave a vacuum. whenever you're in a situation of withdrawal like we are right now with the u.s. military withdrawing by tuesday, you have a situation where terror groups will try to take advantage of that. they did that with the sovieting in 19899. they want to look like they're firing on you the way out. this is the nightmare scenario the pentagon planned for. they knew it was a possibility but it was the worst case scenario. it's highly improbable thepresident will beside to ramp up and send more forces, stay, take over bagram air base. those seem like possibilities that i'm having here at the pentagon. general mckenzie said that he still has 5,200 troops on the ground in kabul at the airport. he does not anticip

and people are very uneasy about the return of the taliban. despite all of the assurances from the taliban, that this is not the taliban of all. that there are guarantees about education for girls about women's rights and so on. there is still still a lot of needs, but i think gradually that has been an acceptance that well, the taliban is back and we have to make due with it. it has caused, as i said, panic. and if people have been able to get out of afghanistan, get hold of a passport, we've seen an awful lot of that, a real desperate attempts by people to get out of afghanistan, but then accepted by most people that yes they, they don't have that option. so they have to make the best of it and we'll be talking to people on the streets. they have been speaking to us saying, well maybe it's not that bad. if we have some sort of power sharing agreement or bring them back into government in one form or, or another. but you shows you just how quickly this scenario of change that's all out of date. and that was just people talking to days ago. because of course, there's nobody seemingly for t

we can judge the taliban _ are they a change taliban? we can judge the taliban by _ are they a change taliban? we can judge the taliban by their- are they a change taliban? we can judge the taliban by their words i are they a change taliban? we can judge the taliban by their words orj judge the taliban by their words or we canjudge the judge the taliban by their words or we can judge the taliban by their actions stop for afghans it has to be by their actions. their words say repeatedly this will not be the taliban rule between 1996 and 2000 won. a harsh, authoritarian rule, which led to them being a pariah state. what is the evidence on the ground? in recent months, as the taliban overran district after district, the schools were shut, girls were allowed to go to school, mainly up to the sixth grade. music was banned, media outlets were shut down, men were told to grow their beards. this led afghans to say, yes, the taliban have changed, but actually they are worse than they were the first time round. but they give us a different picture

does he cut a deal with taliban taliban the -- with the taliban? is there any issue with the withdrawal? can it be conducted in an orderly fashion? in the coming days and weeks, i expect al qaeda and other terror groups, keep in mind the united nations called the deputy mayor of the taliban and military strategist who is the man with the plan to take over afghanistan. host: there's also a call for a human emergency meeting. guest: this is all perfunctory. the time for diplomacy and a stern word of statements has long passed. diplomacy and a stern word of statements, that's what got us here. the u.s. officials thought there was a diplomatic solution when the taliban always had a military solution. host: bill roggio, you can find his reporting and his work. we appreciate your time. guest: thank you for having me. it was a pleasure. host: we are going to take a short break. woman come back, we will continue talking about afghanistan. -- when we come back, we will continue talking about afghanistan. was leaving afghanistan a mistake? yes, no, unsure an

yes, the taliban are letting people through right now but the taliban is the taliban so the chances of something breaking out is there. it is not without risk. host: in illinois, you are next. caller: good morning. a long time ago i watched a documentary called -- about a forward base in a valley. soldiers were getting shot at from the high ground. as an unsophisticated person, you would watch this and say who would put a forward base in a valley. my point is this, we were there for 20 years. we were told this was not vietnam. why did we fail? what would it have taken to win? did we need to use tactical nuclear weapons? did we need to change completely the rules of engagement? how could we have won? as assumed people had thought this out about why we were there. what did winnie look like and why didn't we win -- what does winning look like and why didn't we win? host: thank you for the call, bill. guest: that base was in the cornwall valley. i have been to the cornwall valley. the soldiers in that unit were there for 15 months, day after day of patrolling and standing watch and trying

afghanistan. 50 of taliban rising in dpans. afghanistan.— of taliban rising in dpans. afuhanistan. ,, , ,. ., , afghanistan. so the us is scrambling to evacuate its _ afghanistan. so the us is scrambling to evacuate its citizen _ afghanistan. so the us is scrambling to evacuate its citizen and _ afghanistan. so the us is scrambling to evacuate its citizen and the - afghanistan. so the us is scrambling to evacuate its citizen and the us - to evacuate its citizen and the us has put in billions of dollars to shore up afghanistan and build a civic society whashs, what do you make of antony blinken saying the mission has been successful? the biden mission has been successful? tie: biden administration is mission has been successful? ti9: biden administration is lying the emphasis on the successes achieved in terms of counter terrorism and going after al-qaeda, decimating al-qaeda, it is degraded and pointing out that osama bin laden was killed ten years ago. he was it bears mentioning he was killed in pakistan and not afghanistan. there was a second part of the mission from

the taliban does not trust the pakistan intelligence agency. the taliban has become powerful. it has relationships with other countries, including iran. it also has, because of this international legitimacy it has gained with its travel toguest:. this kind of military independence that he gained makes it less reliance upon back standing -- upon pakistani support. host: this on twitter from jordan, an independent film maker showing an independence day protest in kabul. he said they marched past taliban soldiers with some of them screaming back at the protesters. some of the video filmed by that filmmaker. what does that seen -- scene tell you? guest: that is a striking development and it shows you, tells you that afghanistan of 2021 is not the same as the afghanistan of 1990 six or even 2001. there are these -- afghanistan of 1996 or even 2001. that have come of age and have freedoms at the time they did not have the five years that the taliban ruled from 1996 to 2001. they will not accept a taliban government without protest. there is a notion that the afghan flag have been re

a number ofjournalists, many taliban of journalists, many taliban fighters ofjournalists, many taliban fighters have been reported as getting treatment in hospitals in peshawar. they have money and weapons and treatment facilities. those are lords of the reasons they have been able to manage all these years and it also used the ethnic and tribal vision. you have various tribes and they used the tribal connections to negotiate with people to ask people to switch other sites. you see what happened the last time, they were using brute force in 1996 and 1995. this time they have been using a carrot and stick policy, negotiating with the regional governors, negotiating with the army commanders, we will give you a safe passage because many people can't. they have been using this in this round of offensives in the past few days and that is why in the provinces they simply give up without a fight. you have brought up pakistan. we havejust been without a fight. you have brought up pakistan. we have just been speaking to the british mp tobias ellwood who has said pakistan has a lot to answer for

they weren't motivated like the taliban. they weren't organized like the taliban. and now that all the foreign troops are leaving that country, it seemed pretty obvious that the taliban would take that place over without much of a fight. and that's what's happened. the question is, is how quickly will that happen, just in the 72 hours n the next three days, will wext see a total transanything that country? that's more likely it will i happen. as it happens, you are also seeing a mass exodus from that country. people who over the last two decades had hoped for a brighter future for themselves, for their children who thoughts, they had seen the end of that very harsh taliban rule are now escaping, pouring across the border here, into iran, leaving everything they have in that country behind, trying to desperately leave with their families w their children, their wives, to eek out some sort of a very difficult existence here in iran but something that's preferable to what they would face in afghanistan. >> stay close. want to keep coming back to you for analysis of wh

either taliban or certainly taliban linked group. so you got to remember that the that taliban is not one. 3 1, a great hierarchy that's extremely disciplined to mean it out. there are different factions in different gr with it. so there are, have been certain taliban linked groups, at least on the streets who seem to have taken over a role of policing of, of directing traffic, checking vehicles, the kinds of things that the police normally do that interestingly, normal police units in hearing cobble are still also on the streets, but quite a few of them and we've seen them ourselves. i've actually been dispensing with that police uniform because they know that's the uniform of and outgoing administration and dawning the civilian clothes, but still doing the job of policing. so it is a very confusing situation on the streets here with a parent taliban doing policing work on the police. doing also policing work in civilian clothes. robot is a confusing picture. jimmy knows where the african precedent is. if we know who the african pre

taliban has been. it is and the taliban has been. it is complicated — and the taliban has been. it 3 complicated because afghanistan is so important to iran, both economically and regard to the amount of trade but also because afghanistan is home to so many she a muslim. the islamic regime of iran is sheer. and that is key to understanding the difference between the taliban and the islamic regime of iran when it comes to their relationship. the taliban is here and the islamic regime of iran is sheer. and historically they have been better enemies. there was one key event where the taliban assassinated almost one dozen iranians diplomats and a journalist and it almost led to war between the two. instead, a run opted to co—operate with the us in order to topple the taliban. come 2001, the us led invasion in afghanistan and that calculation changed on iran's part. they began cooperating with the taliban and to stave off the us influence, so much so that the us officials accused iran of having supplied

taliban controls that area. i will say as has been pointed out, the taliban is composed of a lot of bad people. a lot of folks that have that relationship are members of the hakani network and a lot of organizational affiliations are fluid. current day members of the taliban might, in fact, migrate to isis because of its extremist views. therefore in the waning days as the military presence draws down, i think there's going to be increasing anxiety about potential for follow on isis-k attacks at the gates and points of entry. i know the u.s. military and intelligence officers are doing everything possible to understand what's outside the gates, but again, in waning days, it will be very difficult to ensure safety and security of american personnel and those afghans that are trying to get onto the airport. >> i guess that raises the question, clint, how much our intelligence can protect us in the waning days when the footprint goes down, as we know, danger goes up. >> it will be tough, chris. increasingly need hu

we never talk about moderate taliban, but i do want to talk about pragmatic taliban. some of them have been in the past and today show they can be pragmatic. >> they are in a difficult neighborhood. they might want alternative points of contact as well. >> you cannot rule it out. i agree. after all is said and done, that is what happened with vietnam. it is going to take time. it took 20 years in vietnam for us to recognize them and for them to recognize us and all of that. but what? we just have to wait and see. everybody says this may not be the same taliban as it was 20 years ago. the leaders have changed. you have secondary and tertiary leadership that has changed. it ain't going to happen quickly. we just need to be seen where they are, watch developments, and i would only recommend reaching out once we have a better sense of where they are. i think premature efforts to do so, we might regret later, soliciting where they are. >> don't forget that until a couple of years ago, the tallest building in ho chi minh city was citibank. >> i totally agree. it took a whil

troops and the taliban, nor has there been confrontation between u.s. troops and the taliban. over the koerx of the next two hours, we'll be focusing this show on what's unfolding in afghanistan. as you sit at home tonight, you likely have the same questions we do. what does this mean for the afghan people? what does this mean for women and girls in afghanistan in particular? what does this mean for the american empire writ large, and for the seemingly baseless belief that america can change other places for the better? what does this mean for terrorism around the world and for geopolitics. but let's begin this hour in tehran, where humanitarian crisis is unfolding as people flee to safety across the border. ali arouzi joins us live. tell us what you have been seeing and hearing as the afghan people seek refuge in iran. how is tehran handling the refugees? >> well, it can only be described as a desperate exodus out of afghanistan to anywhere that will take them, and of course, iran shares a very long porous border with afghanistan. there's already around 2.5 million afghans li

same taliban. lara: same time. >> same people, and expecting different results, and every time i had an opportunity to ask people, who are negotiating, i -- justed is what the evidence they have changed, i am assured no, don't worry they are more nationalistic they have changed. . another sam octoberfest? nein. make it ten! i like this guy. (cheers) priceline works with top hotels, to save you up to 60%. these are all great. and when you get a big deal... you feel like a big deal. ♪♪ priceline. every trip is a big deal. finding new routes to reach your customers, and new ways for them to reach you... is what business is all about. it's what the united states postal service has always been about. so as your business changes, we're changing with it. with e-commerce that runs at the speed of now. next day and two-day shipping nationwide. same day shipping across town. returns right from the doorstep, and deliveries seven days a week. it's a whole new world out there. let's not keep it waiting. it'

people struck being corralled by the taliban. our correspondent are on the ground in the afghan capital and speaking to ali musarri of the national resistance front of afghanistan in this bulletin. this is live from paris. ♪ thank you very much for being with us. the taliban is excusing -- is refusing to extend the deadline for evacuations at kabul airport after the u.s. entered toxin on issue and france requested the deadline -- entered talks on the issue and france and requested the deadline be extended. a soldier was apparently shot in the arm. people are being herded in dire condition and delavan have seen striking people with -- and the taliban have been seen strong people with sticks and whips. an insight into life there now. >> there's something of a rhythm now in central kabul. we were driving around the city earlier on, and it's just very striking that taliban fighters are omnipresent, on patrol in vehicles throughout the city, heavily armed men are watching over everything that is going on. they surround the airport,

taliban fighters are in kabul and taliban officials are in talks at the presidential palace. kabul's streets were mostly empty this morning as taliban fighters approached. early this morning, reportedly wiout any fighting, the taliban took control of jalalabad, a key city to the east of the capital then, by midday, the president of afghanistan, asaf ghani, left the country after appearing in a televised address where he made no mention of leaving. one of the top afghan peace negotiators, abudllah abdullah, urged the taliban to negotiate a peaceful transfer of power and called ghani “the former president of afghanistan” >> ( translated ): the fact that the former president of afghanistan has left the country, and left behind the nation and the country in this situatn, god will hold him accountable, and the people of afghanistan will judge him accordingly. >> sreenivasan: there were reports of gunfire at kabul's airport, and the u.s. embassy issued a statement to “shelter in place” and not come to the embassy or the airport. but throughout the day and night helicopters

the taliban spokesperson had no announced the taliban were set to conduct a clearing operation and having a indefinite curfew which seems to be a reaction to today's protests. that all shows that the taliban apparently don't like this and are not afraid to act decisively against it. >> we will see what develop means occur with that clearing operation. taliban cofounders -- this teledyne co-founder is one of a number of leaders that have returned from exile. tell us more about him and what part he is likely to play. >> he was the guard of the taliban and then he was arrested anspent years in a pakistani president which beat at his health. he was then released to move forward peace talks. he was up on his valise. he presided over negotiations that led to the u.s. telemann agreement signed in february of 2020. subsequent negotiations between the taliban and then -- the then african government. it is unclear what exactly it means. there has not been any official statement since he returned. the taliban have ousted the former government. to all the deputies, their whereabouts are unknown. it i

the taliban have taken power. and the biden administration faces a new urgent mission evacuating thousands of americans and afghan allies stuck on the ground. the pentagon has sent nearly 6,000 u.s. troops to protect kabul's airport to allow for flights out of the country and the u.n. report shows the taliban are already carrying out a door-to-doorman hunt seeking reprisals against afghans who were allied with the u.s. on friday, the president acknowledged the danger of this mission. president biden: i cannot promise what the final outcome will be. and it will be without risk of loss. but as commander in chief, i can assure you that i will mobilize every resource necessary. pete: what's the latest in afghanistan? how did we get here? and what's next? joining us tonight with more insight are four top reporters on this story. peter baker, the chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." and here in the studio with me anne gearan the white house correspondent for "the washington post." vivian salama the

taliban? who ultimately will rise up and fight them? >> reporter: so two people have formed an opposition, the former sort of security chief and a war lord, his son have formed a bit of a resistance group but that's about it. there was the old generation of war lords. as people -- it is important to remember a little bit of this history. you had the war lords, the mujahedin who were here. they with the cia's help pushed out the soviet union in the '80s and that was their sort of big moment. and the war lords because they were able to push out the soviet union rose up. they got a lot of clout. they became famous and got a lot of momentum. there's been talk since then that these war lords, these famous mujahedin were going to stand up and fight against the taliban. they didn't. a lot of them escaped. they escaped at first contact. because over the last 20 years these war lords were living on their name, on their reputation. they said that they had all these thousands of fighters. they actually d

the taliban and — die and not just at the hands of the taliban and isis k, there will be from _ taliban and isis k, there will be from the — taliban and isis k, there will be from the us and uk france. how and where the intelligences _ from the us and uk france. how and where the intelligences coming - where the intelligences coming number one for those us strikes, those drone strikes considering looking forward, that there aren't going to be in neat forces, us forces uk forces or any allied forces uk forces or any allied forces in afghanistan of the question is, where is the intelligence going to come from? that is really interesting point and we've seen in the past couple of days, i was struck by the reports of this family that had been killed and no one seems to know exact facts. it doesn't matter but for the sake of the report, a large family had died in the age of the children and the exact place that the incident happened is a bit vague and it's because we don't know or have the eyes on the ground any more and yet, as you say, the uk government in the us government is saying tha

isis is incensed by the taliban's victory. and the taliban does not really need isis. it is a small group in afghanistan so it does not need to make any deals with isis. >> our jihadist media specialist. do follow her on twitter. for observations and insights that are fascinating. i'm just seeing from abc, president biden h as been interviewed and says "i don't think it could've been handled in a way that we would go back in hindsight a look at the idea that somehow there is a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing." that question continues to be asked. i think he may be answering it for a little while hands -- hence as well. let us move on. to a different topic. health officials have laid out plans for rolling out the booster doses of the covid vaccine starting next month. those of the pfizer moderna jabs. this will be eight months after receiving their first. health-care care workers, nursing home residents and older adults will be first in line. the nation's surgeon general explained the necessity of the third jab earlier. >> we see data that is -- essentially

the taliban for— at the airport and were held by the taliban for a short while. luckily they— taliban for a short while. luckily they all— taliban for a short while. luckily they all got released, but the worry is that— they all got released, but the worry is that trying to even get from the gurdwara — is that trying to even get from the gurdwara to the airport is a task in itself— gurdwara to the airport is a task in itself without help from the international community. how long are they able _ international community. how long are they able to _ international community. how long are they able to stay _ international community. how long are they able to stay in _ international community. how long are they able to stay in the - are they able to stay in the gurdwara for? obviously we are hearing about shortages of money, for a start. you will as well. what is the plan?— for a start. you will as well. what is the plan? what is the strategy? at the moment, _ is the plan? what is the strategy? at the moment, yes, _ is the plan? what is the strategy? at th

interesting you say the taliban will have to - say the taliban will have to cooperate. that is not in the international community's hands, is it? it international community's hands, is it? , a, u, international community's hands, is it? , ., it? it is, if you have got british troo ts it? it is, if you have got british hearts in _ it? it is, if you have got british troops in there _ it? it is, if you have got british troops in there and _ it? it is, if you have got british troops in there and there - it? it is, if you have got british troops in there and there will l it? it is, if you have got british l troops in there and there will be thousands of us forces in there, and they have got a role in this as well. and there is more where they came from. we have to toughen up our approach here and go to them and say, listen, you are going to have to play ball here. we have got enough forces in kabul right now to make sure that happens. serra; enough forces in kabul right now to make sure that happens.— enough forces in kabul right now to make sure that happens. sorry to cut

with the taliban.— with the taliban. we always appreciate _ with the taliban. we always appreciate your _ with the taliban. we always appreciate your help. - with the taliban. we always appreciate your help. thank with the taliban. we always - appreciate your help. thank you very much indeed, trying to help us understand how this takeover by the taliban fits into broader calculations about a possible increase in islamist terrorism, as she was explaining to me that something that will take days, weeks and months to evolve and for us to understand. now, after the scenes we saw in kabul in the last 48 hours, let's check in on the situation today. there has been a relative calm. western forces have ta ken there has been a relative calm. western forces have taken kabul. you can see indian personnel here being evacuated earlier on tuesday, and we understand a french pain is also able to fly out. on the evacuation efforts, here is the uk's commander ofjoint operations. led by a significant investment in us shapes, and outcome o

thank _ taliban flag. we always appreciate you coming on. thank you - taliban flag. we always appreciate you coming on. thank you very - taliban flag. we always appreciate i you coming on. thank you very much indeed, our chief international correspondent live from kabul. let's stay in afghanistan. there's increasing security concerns at the airport. on saturday the us advised its citizens to avoid the area because of a potential threat from is militants. also on saturday — this french military aircraft was vidoed dropping flares as it exited the airport — they're used to protect aircraft from some types of attacks. expert charles lister explains... abdirahim saeed is a jihadist expert from bbc monitoring. thank you for your time. help me understand the nature of the islamic state group in afghanistan. what is its strength? to state group in afghanistan. what is its strength?— its strength? to start off with isis, it hasn't _ its strength? to start off with isis, it hasn't issued - its strength? to start off with isis, it hasn't issued an - its strength? to star

now will the taliban accept that? and what leverage do the security council have of the taliban? certainly with her to from the ambassador of pakistan. he wasn't invited to the security council meeting, became a brief reporters and many of chrome told us that he believes that the taliban are talking about some sort of inclusive government. and he thinks that that is definitely a possibility. what is clear is that there are some of the key political leaders who were allied with the government in cobble, who are still that. i think the only leverage that the international community has of the taliban right now is the whole issue of recognition at the meeting of the security council. the african ambassador was the ambassador that was appointed by the government that no longer exists. the taliban, i'm sure would like to have the seat at the united nations and be recognized by all the countries of the world that i think is the only thing the international community have to try and convince the taliban to broaden government governance and bring in other figures was, was the un european

taliban? who ultimately will rise up and fight them? >> reporter: so two people have formed an opposition, the former sort of security chief, and a war lord, his son have formed a bit of a resistance group but that's about it. there was the old generation of war lords. as people -- it is important to remember a little bit of this history. you had the war lords, the mujahedin who were here. they with the cia's help pushed out the soviet union in the '80s and that was their sort of big moment. and the war lords because they were able to push out the soviet union rose up. they got a lot of clout. they became famous and got a lot of momentum. there's been talk since then that these war lords, these famous mujahedin were going to stand up and fight against the taliban. they didn't. a lot of them escaped. they escaped at first contact. because over the last 20 years these war lords were living on their name, on their reputation. they said that they had all these thousands of fighters. they actually

talks with the taliban. he is now leading 300 taliban fighters in his province. do you want the taliban regime to come back into power, or do you think there should be a power—sharing deal with the current government, like the discussions that are being had in doha? translation: we would be happy to have a joint government under. the umbrella of islamic sharia. a sharia—based system in afghanistan, like the system the taliban used to have. if we talk about law and order and justice, if someone were to steal or commit adultery, what should happen to them? translation: all this is clearly stated in the koran. _ if someone steals, there is a punishment, for example, for some thefts, the punishment is cutting off the hand and foot. and if someone commits adultery, then they should be stoned. what about girls going to school? can they go to school and if so up until what age? translation: iii until what age? translation: , ., , ., until what age? translation: , ., , translation: if she wants to she can but th

the taliban is not scared. the taliban is doing what the taliban was going to do and america has -- has wrongfully participated in this debacle. mike: we understand president biden has had conference calls with the security team. i recognize, laura that polling suggests american troops coming home but this and what about the american blood and treasure lost in the longest american war? >> i think we will have to reflect long and hard about that as republicans, democrats and independents. this is not a partisan issue nor weponized against any particular president. 70% plus of americans want us out of afghanistan, 56% of republicans, so this is an issue that actually unites americans and we see former republican hagel that biden's move is courageous. 3 presidents before him were unable to make and so what we see here is tragic and some would say inevitable and i just also want to counter the point that we left armaments there. we spent $2.3 trillion, $90 billion arming the afghans to put up self-defense, to take

the taliban denied involvement. they seem to want to play down their more hardline views internationally but at times are in tune with some conservative afghans. many here praise improved security. accompanied by taliban fighters at all times, it's hard to know what residents really think. having already captured many rural areas and some border crossings, the taliban are now pushing in on afghan cities. half an hour's drive away, in mazar—i—sharif, the government are still in control. there's a greater sense of personal freedom here that it's hard to imagine the taliban accepting. many fear the taliban want to resurrect their practice 0n the steps of the government's old courthouse in balkh, the taliban's legal system is in force. thejudge he says he's never ordered serious corporal punishment and that there is a system of appeal courts but he defends stoning adulterers and cutting the hands of thieves. many people here in afghanistan and around the world would be horrified... the taliban are capturing new terr

look at the huge taliban convoy that's speeding towards it. the taliban have been making conciliatory noises in public, but many fear they won't tolerate any challenges to their authority. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. within the last hour, the us broadcaster abc has aired an interview with president biden. in it, he said that "chaos" was inevitable once the united states decided to leave afghanistan after two decades of war, and he said the collapse of the afghan army was to blame for the taliban's success. when you had the government of afghanistan, the leader of that government taking off on a plane and going to another country, when you saw the significant collapse of the afghan troops we had trained — up to 300,000 of them — just leaving their equipment and taking off, that was, you know, that's what happened. that's simply what happened. i'm joined now by our north america correspondent, david willis. a strong defence from president biden that wejust a strong defence from president biden that we just heard. can we see this as an

he said this is not about pressing the taliban shortly after saying the taliban has given its word for safe mass single for americans, friends of americans that want to leave the country. that doesn't appear to be the case right now. he also said that we're acting with one voice. the fact of the matter is, the british, germans and the french have criticized our approach and inability to lead the perimeter around the kabul airport that has been set up by the taliban. so they're not speaking with one voice. he also said these evacuations don't have an expiration date. parentsly they do with the eyes of the taliban see. by august 31, all u.s. personnel would be out of the country. a taliban spokesperson saying that that is a red line. that is a fixed date. the answer would be no, quoting the qatar based taliban spokesperson that is doing an interview with sky news saying that if not, there would be consequences. so what to make of this with jennifer griffin at the pentagon in this race against time a little more than eight days away if you accept the taliban at face value here. that is a