or was there any coordination at the so-called meeting before, that i guess steve bannon was at? it seems also that it opens up a lot of people to save ally ability. there were injuries. officers hurt. some were killed. ptsd. i think a lot of these records, when they come into the public, it's going to go far beyond this initial investigation. it will open up some culpability overtime, i think. but barbara is probably the better person to understand the law on this. >> and barbara, in terms of this investigation, we have seen in the past how republicans have mastered procedural delays. but on air tonight, adam schiff said that democrats learned a lot from the past. they can hold witnesses in contempt, or for them to the justice department, he thinks this is a whole different approach that we will see in this justice department. how critical is doj in all of this? and what are you watching for in that regard? >> i do think he is right in that we now have a different administration. t and the last administration we saw the justice department acting frequently as an ally of trump an

mark meadows, dan scavino, steve bannon and kash patel. all called to testify before lawmakers beginning next month. members of the committee say they want to know what trump's inner circle knew about the planning, leading up to the capitol attack and how they made decisions as the violence unfolded that day. let's begin on capitol hill with cnn capitol hill reporter melanie zanonis. what do we know about what the committee is hoping to learn from them and, i mean, are they going to challenge the subpoenas? >> yeah, well, the select committee is definitely kicking this investigation into high gear. these subpoenas are targeting some of the highest ranking staffers in the white house during trump's time in office. you have mark meadows, dan scavino, steve bannon, who had the former president's ear, and kash patel, chief of staff to the acting defense secretary. this offers a real window into the direction of the investigation. they are not only looking at the planning surrounding the efforts to overturn the election on january 6th, but also

listen. >> steve bannon on the phone, he,s telling steve bannon over at the willard hotel we need to kilt biden presidency in the crib. that the phrase based on our reporting in that conversation. >> yeah, because just let go with this illegitimate regime is doing it. killed itself, okay, but we told you from the very beginning, just expose. it just expose it. never back down, never give up and this thing will implode. >> now in the back half there, maggie, he's talking about the big lie essentially. he's still calling president biden illegitimate based on his belief or his alleged belief in the big lie, but in the first part where they are playing the interview with bob costa and bob woodward about the new book because of legitimacy, he does confirm there that he spoke to the president on january 5th. the question is why was donald trump talking to his fighter, if you will, that brought back into the circle steve bannon the day before that big rally? >> right. it may not mean anything, john. i mean, i do want to be clear here. i don't want to suggest that we know more than we do. he

bannon and steve miller's idea, which of course did not go over well for steve bannon. how he keeps coming back into donald's orbit, the guy is absolutely just nuts, and mark meadows we already know, i have no regard for him, and kash patel, that's going to be the most interesting of all four of them. what was he doing and who was he talking to? but one thing i want everybody to remember here, it's not going to be as easy as people think simply because donald trump doesn't have an email address and donald trump doesn't text message. what you have to do is look at everybody else, and you have to look at what dan scavino was, for example, saying to mark meadows. what mark meadows was saying to kash patel, what steve bannon was trying to interject on his own behalf, and then, you know, obviously they call him the boss, they call him, you know, mr. president. they would call him djt, and you have to put all of those messages together because donald would never be involved in any text message. and again, he doesn't have email. >> so that's interesting advice, i'm sure the in

january 5th, steve bannon, rudy giuliani and others at the willard hotel. danka vino was with president trump late into the night in the oval office talking about how to pressure lawmakers. the reason they sighted this book is they realize there are people who know a lot about what president trump was doing at the time. and that story still has to be told in a bigger way. yamiche: what did your report what reveal about who president trump is at his core? and the role of him being encouraged by people around him but also the grip that he has on the republican party. bob: well, he is and costa has the endurance to actually listen -- listen to the current trump rallies. they are amazing. there's a lot of nonsense about the stolen election. but then, he gets on and he starts talking like winston churchhill, we're not going to give up. we're going to keep going. it's to the trump supporters. it's passionate. it's very emotional. and it brings them into the process of, you know, you are my people. and so as we try to get some distance from the events, trump is on

january 5th, steve bannon, rudy giuliani and others at the willard hotel. danka vino was with president trump late into the night in the oval office talking about how to pressure lawmakers. the reason they sighted this book is they realizthere are people who know a lot about what president trump was doing at the time. and that story still has to be told in a bigger way. yamiche: what did your report what reveal about who president trump is at his core? and the role of him being encouraged by people around him but also the grip that he h on the republican party. bob: well, he is and costa has the endurance to actually listen -- lisn to the current trump rallies. they are amazing. there's a lot of nonsense about the stolen election. but then, he gets on and he starts talking like winston churchhill, we're not going to give up. we're going to keep going. it's to the trump supporters. it's passionate. it's very emotional. and it brings them into the process of, you know, you are my people. and so as we try to get some distance from the events, trump is on the m

when steve bannon says you need proof. but when it comes to the 2022 brazilian election, bannon claims that balls and r a will win unless it's stolen by guess what? the machines. ceeback brazil started right before september 7th when balls and rose supporters planned shut down brazil supreme court and make him dictator for life. american viewers. that may sound familiar, but brazil has far more precedent for this sort of thing than we did. they had an actual cool, 964, followed by 20 years of military dictatorship. here in the us, our military has only been running the show for. okay, maybe maybe it's fortunately that he thought thankfully though september 7th in brazil, wound up being just as much of a fort fast as january 6 in dc. sorry to get all your fans to show up. there's something when so many of them are tired from being dead, but it doesn't look like this will be their last rock given balls in our support from police and lower ranks of the military. their biggest fear isn't just that balls in our will lose. it's

call today. >>> steve bannon, he's now known as a podcast host, a conservative figure, popular on the far right, but he's also someone we realized is talking to president trump in the final days of the trump presidency. talking to president trump even on january 5th, the eve of the insurrection. and saying to president trump based on our reporting, kill the biden presidency in the crib. january 6th has to be a reckoning. >> that of course "the washington post" robert costa one of the coauthors of the book "peril." tonight ban nonis one of four trump allies subpoenaed by the house committee investigating the insurrection. here to talk more about it is robert gibbs, and white house press secretary under president obama and michael steele, former chairman of the republican national committee, former lieutenant governor of maryland and host oft michael steele podcast. good to see you, guys. robert, costa laid out bannon. we saw mark meadows with the president on january 6th and scavino. these are the folks who have been part of his inner circle. will they comply or more likely has chairma

dan skavino, steve bannon and defense department official kash patel. the senior adviser of investigations for the house intelligence committee. a former federal prosecutor and he joins me now. dan, this is skipping past the request phase. we saw some document requests go out. what's the significance of these four subpoenas to your mind? >> well, there are several things. the first is as the committee advised this week, they were going to go directly to subpoena for people, individuals or entities who either have not been cooperative, they don't expect to be cooperative. obviously these four, they do not expect to be cooperative and that likely means litigation. the bigger thing for me, chris, is not that they're going straight to subpoenas, they're going straight to the critical witnesses. rather than in many investigations where you would start with lower level people and try to work your way up so you have a better sense of what the role is of the higher level people, but there's no time for that right now and they're anticipating litigation. >> yes.

i've got the subpoena -- the letters that have gone to mark meadows and to steve bannon. here is a little bit of what was written to mark meadows. and it says here, "it appears that you were with or in the vicinity of president trump on january 6, had communications with the president and others on january 6 regarding events at the capitol and are a witness regarding activities of that day. moreover, it has been reported that you engaged in multiple elements of the planning and preparation of effort to contest the presidential election and delay the counting of electoral votes in addition according to documents provided by the department of justice while you were the president's chief of staff, you directly communicated with the highest officials at the department of justice requesting investigations into election fraud matters in several states. "we understand in the weeks after the november 2020 election, you contacted several state officials to encourage investigation of election fraud even after such allegations had been dismissed by state and federal courts. they add

mark meadows, steve kavino, steve bannon and kash patel. i want to bring in cnn capitol hill reporter melanie zanona and eli honig, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. melanie, let me start with you with the reporting. what do we know about the four people who have been subpoenaed and what the committee is seeking? >> well, these subpoenas are to the highest ranking staffers in the trump white house, and the committee is not only seeking documents, but they also want depositions so they want these people to come up here for the commit. on that list is mark meadows, trump's loyal chief of staff. we know he went to great lengths to overturn the election results. he reportedly pressured the doj to investigate false claims of voter fraud so the committee will want to know exactly whether he was working at trump's request and what he was doing. the subpoena was sent to the deputy chief of staff as well as steve bannon, a trump veras and had the president's ear and was -- and he also said on january 5th all hell is going t

steve bannon hasn't -- he has a greater uphill battle because he was not even a government official and he had no executive privilege is. the other three were government officials so in theory, at that time, they could've claimed executive privilege, but it's important to remember, joe biden controls what's is executive privilege right now, not donald trump, and donald trump is no longer the president, so he can say, as he did, oh, i'm gonna claim executive privilege to preserve the office of the presidency, hey pal, you are no longer in the office of the presidency. what you think about the office of the presidency's irrelevant. >> there are some reporting today that the white house is considering turning over some communications that i guess, they have access to precisely under that rationale. >> well, the white house and the national archives has access to a lot of communication from white house officials and donald trump is threatening to intervene, to file a lawsuit to prevent the national archives from producing sivs documents to the select committee and he's claiming executive pr

. >> steve bannon is laying the ground work to help steal the next election. "all in" starts right now. >>> i saw a covid stat that blew my mind. the vaccine has been widely available for free for about six months. current fatalities from covid are running roughly double what they were a year ago. before we had vaccines. it seems an unspeakable tragedy. it is unspeakable. it's maddening and confusing. i think it's worth taking a second understanding of where we are in the battle against this virus now. about 62% of those eligible are fully vaccinated in this country which means we have a whole nation within a nation of unvaccinated folks. tens of millions of people who aren't vaccinated. not to mention children. unvaccinated folks are clustered in areas around each other because vaccination is not evenly distributed. there are areas like gaines county, texas where less than 25% are not vaccinated and places where 75% are vaccinated. we have a variant is more aggressive and more transmissable coupled with a total absence of public health measures to stop the sp

when steve bannon says you need proof, but when it comes to the 2022 brazilian election. bannon claims that falls in our a will win unless it's stolen by guess what? the machines. ceeback brazil started right before september 7th when balls and rose supporters planned shut down brazil supreme court and make him dictator for life. auto, american viewers. that may sound familiar. but brazil has far more precedent for this sort of thing than we did. they had an actual cool, 964, followed by 20 years of military dictatorship. here in the us, our military has only been running the show for. okay, maybe maybe it's fortunately that he thought thankfully though september 7th in brazil, wound up being just as much of a fort fast as january 6 in dc. sorry to get all your fans to show up this something when somebody of them are tired from being dead. but it doesn't look like this will be their last rock given balls in our support from police and lower ranks of the military. their biggest fear isn't just that balls in our will lose. it's the guy who probably lose to former president lula ignacio d

steve bannon's in washington. and trump is complaining that the republicans aren't doing enough for his effort. and bannon says to him, and when you read it there's sort of a certain quality to this passage. he says you've got to return to washington right now, you've got to make a dramatic return. and then he says, according to woodward and costa, and you've got to call pence off the effing ski slopes and get him back here today, this is a crisis. he calls january 6th a moment for reckoning. and then he goes even further. this is about bannon on biden. and he says, quote, people are going to go, what the f is going on here, we're going to bury biden on january 6th, effing bury him. this was, it sounds like from woodward and costa, that bannon saw this as a moment to undermine biden's legitimacy, and he goes on, according to the book, bannon says, quote, we're going to kill it in the crib, kill the biden presidency in the crib. and there are also some extraordinary scenes where bannon and rudy giuliani and jason m

steve bannon is back. this is interesting. they are focusing at the willard hotel on january 5th, the day before during an effort to persuade members of congress to block the certification of the election the next day. so, again, what went into the planning here, what was the spent. a really interesting one, patel, pentagon official at the department of defense. they want to know about his involvement regarding planning for security at the capitol january 6th and responding to events that followed the attack. so they are going right to the inner circle here. . >> talk about the next legal steps, how it will play out. >> we know donald trump will try to get in the way here. he's already said he will invoke executive privilege to try to block the committee. there's an interesting legal question, who gets to invoke executive privilege? is it the current president or the former president whose communications are at issue. now, no federal court ever ruled squarely on this. however, there is precedent telling us it's the current pre

this is a portion of steve bannon's podcast, he seemingly admits to the reporting. watch. >> we need to kill the biden presidency in the crib. that was the phrase based on reporting and our conversation. >> that's what this illegitimate regime is doing. killed itself. just expose it. just expose it. never back down. never give up. this thing will implode. >> clearly it is obvious why the committee may want to talk to him if he is admitting that on the podcast. legal exposure, significance of hearing it from bannon himself? >> bannon is not shy about these things, is he. the other two were ones in the room with trump also. legal exposure we talked about, but really their mission is getting at the truth. it would be a huge achievement to be able to show trump knew and facilitated the insurrection. >> yeah. he sounds like mcbeth in terms of -- kill the baby in the crib. it is all such violent rhetoric. this is again the day before the insurrection, and he is putting some of this out on his podcast, saying things like all hell is going to break loose. it will be interes

. >> steve bannon is laying the groundwork to help steal the next election. "all in" starts right now. ♪♪ >>> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. i saw a covid stat today that blew my mind. the vaccine as we know has been widely available for free to the public for about six months and right now as i speak to you current fatalities from covid in this country are running roughly double what they were a year ago. before we had vaccines. it seems ununspeakable tragedy. it's maddening and confusing. i think it's worth taking a second to understand where we are in the battle against this virus right now. about 62% of those eligible are fully vaccinated in this country, which means we have a whole nation within a nation of unvaccinated folks, right. tens of millions of people who aren't vaccinated, not to mention children. unvaccinated folks are clustered in areas around each other because it's not evenly distributed throughout the population. areas like gains county, texas, less than 25% of people are fully vaccinated and middlesex county, massachuset

. >> one of the folks getting subpoenaed here is steve bannon. we learned recently in the book "peril" from bob woodward and robert costa, he was very much the one pushing donald trump to make january 6th, the tay of reckoning. he talked about killing it in the crib, killing the biden presidency in the crib by making, convincing people that it is an illegitimate presidency and should be ignored. and bannon basically confirmed this on his podcast. let's listen. . >> we need to kill the biden presidency in the crib. that was the phrase based on our reporting in that conversation. >> yeah. because the legitimate say. we told you just expose it. just expose it. never back town. never give up. and this thing will implode. >> okay. but, paula, he knew that actually this regime, as he puts it, was relit mat. he knew the win was legitimate. all the folks around trump actually knew this. yet here he is painting this picture. what type of problem does that create for steve bannon. >> it creates a huge problem for all of these witnesses. not only are they l

here's the thing, steve bannon is not showing up for this deposition, he doesn't care that executive privilege doesn't apply. they will stall -- they will claim executive privilege, they will claim some other type of privilege, and they are not playing by the same set rules. and the only way to get their attention is to go ahead and use criminal contempt. otherwise, this will just go the same way as every other investigation has gone in the congress. >> so many things going on susan, wow, frankly, nancy pelosi has to get the sausage made. she's gotta figure out how she's gonna wrangle this time even though she is known as a master wrangler. you wrote a book about her. what is your take on how she will approach this drama on capitol hill and how, and if, more importantly, she will be able to pull off next week in terms of votes? >> it's interesting. democrats are pretty downbeat but there are two things that have struck me that make democrats optimistic. one is pelosi's record. in muscling big things through, especially the affordable care act. over and over you'll hear members of con

they include his former chief of staff, mike meadows, his former close aide, steve bannon, dance gavino, who was a deputy in the communications department, and a former pentagon official, cash patel. —— dan scavino, who was a deputy in the communications department. each of these has been given two weeks to provide copies of documents relating to communication they had with the white house in the days running up white house in the days running up to january six and on the day itself, and a week after that they will each be required to give sworn testimony to congress itself. if they declined to do so, it is possible that the us justice department could sue them for criminal contempt. 50 department could sue them for criminal contempt.— department could sue them for criminal contempt. so how close and it does _ criminal contempt. so how close and it does this _ criminal contempt. so how close and it does this cast _ criminal contempt. so how close and it does this cast around - and it does this cast around the former president's in a circle, do you think? —— how close a net?. c

mark meadows, steve bannon, dan scavino and kash patel for the defense secretary. they compel these people to turn over documents by october 7th. and then they asked them to sit for a deposition in private the following week on october 14th. phil, certainly all of this indicating and signaling the committee is taking this investigation into a much more aggressive phase. . >> one of the big questions i think we have had, particularly of those like you and myself who lived through at least the first impeachment of former president donald trump is invoking privilege. do we have any sense now if president biden is going to invoke executive privilege related to testimony to congress? >> reporter: it's certainly a hot topic. they peppered the white house press secretary about interesting answer in that jen psaki, at first she said we take this matter seriously. the president has concluded that it would not be appropriate to assert executive privilege. but then she walked that back a bit and clarified her remarks attempting to essentially clarify that position saying they

letters accompanying this subpoenas, were signed by many thompson, the letter to steve bannon says that the committee has reason to believe that the government information relevant to understanding important activity that lead to and inform the evidence at the capitol on january six. you have been identified as present at the ward hotel on january 5th 2021, during an effort to persuade members of congress to block the certification of the election the next day. you are quoted as stating on january 5th 2021, that all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. >> the chairman's letter to mark meadows says quote >> you were with or in the vicinity of president trump on january six, and have communication with the president on others on january six regarding events of the capital. it has been reported that you were engaged in multiple elements of the planning in preparation of efforts to contest the presidential election and delay the counting of the electoral votes. according to documents provided by the department of justice while you were the presidents chief of staff. you directly communica

that's steve bannon. patel, allegedly, was in contact constantly with meadows on january 6 and took part in discussions with pentagon officials involving capitol security. bannon, meadows and scavino did not immediately respond to request for comment while patel issued a statement that reads in part, i will continue to tell the truth to the american people about the events of january 6th. in a statement former president trump said they were part of a partisan exercise and suggested he would assert executive privilege in an attempt to block them, mika. some of this comes out, also, woodward and costa's book -- we had them on earlier this week -- and they have many details including steve bannon sitting in a war room on january the 5th, on the eve of january 6, talking about all hell breaking loose and they were going to kill the biden presidency in the crib, as he's alleged to have put it. >> some of these people are going to try to prove how they couldn't have known about this because it was, as we are fi

and that includes the big guns, like steve bannon and donald trump's former top number one aide, mark meadows, who is chief of staff. "rolling stone" reporting on the massive scope of this probe. the committee has asked the national archives for all documents and communications within that trump white house on that fateful day of january 6th, 2021. what we see here is both exactly what speaker pelosi said she was going to do when she outmaneuvered republicans and barreled forward with this committee and it's also a legal escalation. we're looking now at this clash between biden and trump, something that temperamentally, the biden administration is not super interested in having, but apparently they've decided to side with congress, with the investigation with mainly democrats who have been interested in getting to the bottom of january 6th. and we're looking now at a subpoena-powered, white house cooperating effort to get down to exactly what did happen before and during the insurrection. and by the way, you've heard me say this before and i'll say it again as a journalist. if they ge

that is what steve bannon told president trump the day january 6th would be according to the new book. it reveals that ban fan played a crucial role in the events leading up to the riot and a crucial role in trump's thinking. on ban nfan said about january 6s, people will go. what the f is going on we're going to bury him, f-ing bury hip. that got trump back on a plane back to d.c. and there he was. john kasich the former two-term republican governor of ohio. a lot to talk to you about here. let me start with the steve bannon reporting here, he was crucial convincing trump to return to d.c. he said he's in mara lag bow and might not come back. he comes back for january 6th and after bannon says it was the moment of reckoning. how much blame do you think bannon bears for what happened that day? >> well, you know, erin, this whole book and all the revelations you've been covering here in the last half an hour are just stunning. ultimately, the guy who has to bear the blunrunt of this is dod trump and those who cooperated with him, shame on them. that's why i'm in support of the commissi

four subpoenas to trump's four horsemen, mark meadows, steve bannon and scavino and patel. a subpoena implies no wrongdoing on the part of any of those men. it's just a demand that they must come testify. why them? the chairman of the committee says all four had communications with the white house or were working in it or in the days leading up to the insurrection were involved and we're going to unpack what all that means. also, we're going unpack strategies afoot for all of those men to say nothing at all. we also have exclusive new details in the gabby petito case, on top of the federal arrest warrant has been issued for brian laundrie, the fiance of petito that remains nowhere to be found. we have new details. now, first on the warrant. it was issued in wyoming, that's where petito was found dead sunday, but there are no charges in it related to her killing. the warrant is for the, quote, use of unauthorized devices related to laundrie's activities following the death of petito. he is indicted on one count of using an atm card that may have been gabby's. the indictment,

steve bannon by that point was outside doing his own stuff. the former president of the united states would -- says that executive privilegecovers their ability not to participate and not to provide information. this is what jen psaki said about that. >> the president has already concluded that it would not be appropriate to assert executive privilege. and so we will respond promptly to these questions as they arise and certainly as they come up from congress. >> so she was talking about joe biden asserting executive privilege. they'll not do that. now we have the competing executive privilege thing. how does that affect the testimony you're hoping to hear and the documents you're hoping to get? >> the twice impeached former president doesn't get to decide executive privilege. the current occupant of the white house generally has to decide, and there are also carve outs based on criminal activities. so we feel that this is important and that executive privilege doesn't apply. but we'll let the lawyers handle that and hash some of those things

the letter to steve bannon says "the select committee has reason to believe that you have information relevant to understanding important activities that lead to and informed the events at the capitol on january 6. you have been identified as present at the willard hotel on january 5th, 2021 during an effort to persuade members of congress to block the certification of the election the next day. you are quoted as stating on january 5, 2021 that all hell is going to break lose tomorrow." the letter to mark meadows says, quote, you were with or in the vicinity of president trump on january 6 and had communications with the president and others on january 6 regarding events at the capitol. it has been reported that you were engaged in multiple elements telephone planning and efforts to contest the presidential election and delay the counting of the electoral votes. according to documents provided by the department of justice, while you were the president's chief of staff, you directly communicated with the highest officials at the department of justice requesting investigations into elec

what about steve bannon in particular? he's a former white house official. rather, ig gnomes youly fired by trump early in the administration. how can the former president say this guy is so valuable as an adviser he can't speak after firing him and trashing him on twitter for three years? >> a good question. this is one of the areas that the courts are being called onto deal with, and they're going to have to deal with it, because steve bannon was not an official government adviser in any way during this period of time. and over the communications that former president trump wants to claim executive privilege over. so again, that's going to be one of the key questions that needs to be answered. and it's going to require some litigation. you know, garrett, i think a lot of people don't realize that courts don't want to deal with these issues. they don't want to get involved with making serious decisions about how broad the executive privilege is. they will go so far as to urge the parties and they did this in the hair yet meyers litigation years ago. they sa

four subpoenas to trump's four horse mern, mark meadows, steve bannon and scavino and patel. a subpoena implies no wrongdoing on the part of any of those men. it's just a demand that they must come testify. why them? the chairman of the committee says all four had communications with the white house or were working in it or in the days leading up to the insurrection were involved and we're going to unpack what all that means. also, we're going unpack strategies afoot for all of those men to say nothing at all. we also have exclusive new details in the gabby petito case, on top of the federal arrest issued for laundrie, the fiance of petito that remains nowhere to be found. we have new details. now, first on the warrant. it was issued in wyoming, that's where petito was found dead sunday, but there are no charges in it related to her killing. the warrant is for the, quote, use of unauthorized devices related to laundrie's activities following the death of petito. he is indicted on one count of using an atm card that may have been gabby's. the indictment, frankly, is unclear at

they include his former chief of staff, mark meadows, his former close adviser steve bannon, former deputy in the communications department, dan scavino, and an official at the us pentagon, a former official, cash patel. now, they have all been given two weeks in order to come up with documents regarding their communications with each other and with members of the white house in the days running up to the 6th ofjanuary and on the day of the riot itself. and a week after that deadline, each of the four man will then be required to give sworn testimony to congress. should they refuse to do so, and former president trump has himself said that he might cite executive privilege in an attempt to avoid giving evidence to the select committee, then it is possible they could be subject to criminal contempt charges. this committee wants to know what president trump knew in the run—up to the events onjanuary the 6th, what he was doing, whom he spoke to and so on, and it also wants to know what he and those around him did in order to try to overturn the results of last year's presidential election.

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galvanized by none other than steve bannon. you know that saying, good artist copy, and great artist steel, bannon is activating his army of trump worship-ing conspiracy theorist to swarmed the precincts. let's be clear, the precinct strategy is in bannon's brain child, this is simply as propublica notes something that he plucked out of obscurity. wait a minute, this strategy, maybe not so obscure, republicans have been flooding the election boards, school boards and local city county ranks for a long time. let's not forget there pinch off for purging the courts. it's just out in the open now. its use of intimidation has been truly unleashed. at this point, they are telling us exactly who they are, and what they want. the question is, what are we going to do about it? joining me now is a democratic poll strategist, a political scientists and cofounder of -- advisor for the dccc. i'm gonna start with you, he didn't come up with this and we shouldn't give him more credit than he deserves, but he understood how to use this age old

steve bannon in it. the last book was called "rage". this could be called rage 2.0". there's scene after scene of trump lashing out, showdowns, top advisers describe some of these scenes as something out of full metal jacket or "dr. strange love". i want to also say the book also deals with joe biden's first six months in office, why he pulled out of afghanistan. and wanted to do that. and also the shadow of trump over the biden white house. aides used to warn each other, don't use the t-word. they didn't even want to say his name. >> we're going to talk more about this in a few moments and bring political reporters in to help with the conversation. i want to pull the pieces together. you talked about could be rage 2.0. i say peril is appropriate. the off the track thoroughbred wants to get back on the track. when we learn this history, important for everybody out in america, democrat, republican, independent, or something else to look through the history of this, the conduct, the steps taken by general milley, the rage and fury of the president of the united states.

mark meadows, dan scavino, steve bannon and cash patel have been ordered to turn over documents by next week and all are ordered to appear for depositions the following week put it at the 14th or 15th of october. looming over everything, question of whether and however those records from the trump white house make their way to the january 6th select committee investigating the insurrection while the expresident, donald trump, said he intends to invoke executive privilege to stop his records from ending up in the hands of the committee the power isn't really his anymore it. belongs in the hands of the current occupant of the white house, joe biden politico writes, the white house said it intends to review each request on a case by case basis adding this, quote, once the documents are delivered trump legally has 30 days to approve or deny the release. if trump decides to object, biden can still turn the material over since his white house has the final say on matter back with claire and dan kplar, the white house taking sort of clarifying that their position on executive privilege is case

bannon.. my guess is you'll see a lot of back and forth, criminal contempt we've really not seen that. it's a difficult thing to pull off. where an executive branch doj official decides to bring a criminal case for someone who is or was in the executive branch, it's possible. we'll see what happens. but i think the select committee is on the right track, narrowly focused on issuing subpoenas to four men who are intimately involved with what unfolded on the day of january 6th, communications, logistics, talking to various people know what was in the former president's mind, donald trump's mind which is incredibly important to understanding how responsible donald trump was. so there will be some legal wrangling but at the end of the day whether they're vindicated quickly or not the right side is on the side of the committee. >> we know, gentlemen, of course it could be a very protracted time to actually understand whether they'll actually testify or not. however, there's one roadblock removed an

they include his former chief of staff, mark meadows, his former close adviser steve bannon, former deputy in the communications department dan scavino, and an official at the us pentagon, a former official, cash patel. now, they have all been given two weeks in order to come up with documents regarding their communications from each other and with members of the white house in the days running up to the 6th ofjanuary and on the day of the ride itself. and a week after that deadline, each of the foreman will then be required to give sworn testimony to congress. should they refuse to do so, and former president trump has himself said that he might cite executive privilege in an attempt to avoid giving evidence to the select committee, then it is possible they could be subject to criminal contempt charges. this committee wants to know what president trump knew in the run—up to the events onjanuary the 6th, what he was doing, whom he spoke to and so on, and also wants to know what he and those around him did in order to try to overturn the results of last year's presidential election. david

which is sort of catching the idea -- you can point at steve bannon for that. there is the talk of a meeting back in december where he tells trump to focus on january 6th. then there is the meeting the day before at the willard hotel. you have scavino promoting january 6th, and mark meadows talking with department of justice lawyers about ways to undermine the election. so each one of these people, including patel, who has a hand in the security of it, has a role to play in the plot to stop joe biden's lawful decree and award the election to donald trump. it's actual low very clear when you look at everything. now, what we don't have are certain details that may connect the dots further, but a lot of this, as has been said, was planned in the opening. and there is a lot of reporting around it, about the pressure they put on mike pence to accept a fake slate of electors instead of the real slate of electors, to have the house of representatives throw out lawful votes so that joe biden can't actually get 270 electoral college votes and it goes to a vote of the ho

. >> and there's also steve bannon. remember he told the then-president to kill the biden administration in the crib. also cash patel, they want to ask him about reports he was talking nonstop to mark meadows on january 6th. now, the committee is investigating efforts that the trump white house took to potentially overturn our free and fair election and how the big lie fueled the violence that exploded into the capitol insurrection. a lot more to come on that in just a moment so make sure you stay tuned. meanwhile there is this crisis -- this ongoing crisis on the border. the biden administration ramping up deportations as heavy machinery and dump trucks clear out the makeshift migrant camp in del rio, texas. the scenes there are really horrific. they are hard to watch. and then true to disgusting form, over at the propaganda network, the fox propaganda network tucker carlson cynically using what's happening at the border to stoke white nationalism, push the bogus great replacement theory that falsely claims that white

four subpoenas to trump's four horsemen, mark meadows, steve bannon and scavino and patel

this is the big moment, and at the hotel you have giuliani,, steve bannon and other allies huddling together in the own sort of war room and out in the streets, those industries in washington that night reporting and it was chaos. cops fighting with protesters. .. bob woodward said to me it's almost reminded him of the send talking to the pictures on the walls in 1974 >> what's interesting about it and bob costa and i talked about this at length because when we discovered what hammond did, at this moment it's almost a mystical engagement trump has with the mob up there, the people and he's mesmerized by it and we discussed this. when nixon in his final days was talking to the pictures on the wall, nixon was talking to washington and lincoln. trump was talking to his mob. and that is his connection to the population. and it is the last lines in the book are peril remains. because trump and what he stands for is out there in the political world now. some polls show that he would be biting. he has 30 to 40 percent of the people believing that the election was stolen from him when you know, the

so, he was on steve bannon's podcast. he's a frequent guest on this podcast. he was talking about supporters of bolsonaro in social media saying they've been de-platforms, a lot of same language used, tech firms in silicon valley de-platformed president trump. keep it in context. he's promoting this social media app which donald trump, by the way, has not joined since miller started getter. he's out there trying to play up this app and, of course, he has this big customer base in brazil. but certainly echoing a lot of the same language that conservatives, anti-tech conservatives in the united states are talking about really embracing these pro-bolsonaro supporters. >> michael, thank you so much for that reporting. look, we're not to the bottom of this, right? we're not. but we know you'll keep track. thank you so much. >>> that add, getter app reminds me of the banter dating app, ted lasso. i get them confused sometimes. i'm sure that's not what jason miller is doing in brazil. to be fair, i don't know what jason miller is doing in brazil. >> it's so bizarre.

steve bannon and kash patel. all four to provide documents within two weeks before private depositions that are scheduled soon after. this is obviously extremely significant and it comes as we're learning the biden white house is working to give the committee more information about what then president trump and his aides were doing on the day of the insurrection. information that the trump and aides have refused to provide. biden white house might do it. manu is out front. you're breaking the news about the subpoenas. tell me what you know. this is coming out in significant way. >> they are asking for both documents and closed door depositions with these four very close allies of the former president. former chief of staff mark meadows. steve bannon. long time police adviser cash patel. top national security official. someone involved in various a pektss through the trump administration. what this committee is asking for documents in that deposition, by early part of october and deposition by mid-october. they ar

. >> rudy giuliani, jason miller, steve bannon as depicted in this book, and also new information about the role bannon played egging trump on. you have to make it back from mar-a-lago to make a dramatic appearance. this is a crisis, the moment for reckoning. people are going to go what is the f is going on here? we're going to bury biden january 6. f-ing bury him. >> bannon once fired is back in the fold. he appears, according to woodward and costa's reporting, a svengali like figure january 6. donald trump is down in mar-a-lago. he was playing golf. he wanted to go to his new year's eve party the next night. bannon says you have to come back. then there is a scene where he is there, you say, with rudy giuliani, jason miller. it's a war room like setting. they're talking to trump the night of the 5th. and saying very inflammatory things to say the least. i think the january 6 select committee is going to be taking a very close look at the entire book, and at steve bannon's role. >> we came closer to stealing an election than we knew. it was pretty darn close. when you have pence callin

and it will be very important to hear from both steve bannon and cash patel. bannon, of course, infamously, is now reported to have said the day before january 6th that it would be, you know, wild and dangerous and that all hell would break lose. it's important to know what he knew when he made that comment and others. kash patel, of course, was at dod, where there was a three-hour delay in releasing the national guard to work with capitol police. and it will be important to understand what role, if any, the white house played in that holdup. so chris, now we've got a professional organization run by battle-hardened congressional leaders, who have learned how to do this in the crucible of indictment proceedings. and they have, again, brought on professional investigative staff. their lead investigator is a former united states attorney, tim haffey from virginia, who ran the investigation into charlottesville after the white supremacist protest there. this will move forward in a professional manner, akin to a criminal investigation, and get some of those detail

steve bannon is not showing up for this deposition. he doesn't care that executive privilege doesn't apply. so they will stall. they'll claim executive privilege. they'll claim some other time of privilege. and they're not playing by the same set of rules. the only way to get their attention is to go ahead and use criminal contempt. otherwise, this will just go the same way as every other investigation has gone. >> yes. just so many things going on. nancy pelosi has to get the sausage made. she has to figure out how the wrangle this. you wrote a book about her. what is your take on how she'll approach all this drama on capitol hill and if more importantly, she'll be able to pull off next week in terms of votes. >> democrats are pretty down beat. but there are two things. one is nancy pelosi's record in muscling big things through, especially the affordable care act. so over and over again, you'll hear members of congress. i heard one on the show just before this one with eric swalwell saying that he trusted nancy pelosi to make a deal.

mark meadows, dan scavino, cash patel and steve bannon, who is one of his closest advisors during his presidential campaign and then also served in a counselor roll during the early portion of the trump administration. these are a group of men that not only had trump's ear on a regular basis but also were around him and in conversations with those planning the rally that took place in front of the white house that served as the prelude to the january 6 capitol insurrection. it's clear just what the thinking is of this committee in terms of what they are looking for, that they are starting with this group to ask serious questions about what they knew in the events leading up to january 6 and the reaction and response to it. >> do they shed light on where the investigation is headed? >> it does. when you read the requests that they sent to these four men about what they are looking for in terms of records. the reason that they are asking for the records and for these private interviews. will read from the letter to dan scavino, who is the former president's deputy chief of staff. the se

former trump add viedzer steve bannon and kash patel, while the white house is making more available to action that day, meaning the biden white house, the former president is threatening to invoke executive privilege likely setting the stage for a legal battle. letters to scavino and bannon cite the new book by bob woodward and robert costa of the "washington post" "peril" about the last months of the trump administration january 6th and the transition of power. the letter to scavino cites reporting in "amanpour" that scavino was with trump, quote, january 5th, the day before, when he and others were trying to convince others members of congress is not to certify the election for joe biden. joining me is robert costa, the post reporter. hey, let me just say how pleased i am with your success. and how cool it is to see you acknowledging and thanking three of your teachers at the pennsbury high school. good for you, i bet they're happy to see a number one best-seller being penned by a student of theirs. >> i appreciate you, michael. i've been listening to you over 20 years you're a cl