mccarthy: no. >> last question. reporter: if they still do want those 13 who vote ted for the infrastructure bill remove fred committees, will you do that? mr. mccarthy p: our members are focused on the american public, making sure we lower inflation, making sure we have reasonable gas price, maybing sure we don't leave americans hostage in afghanistan. reporter: what would have been an appropriate punishment for representative gosar? >> sunday night on "q&a." >> so many people will pick up this book and say, i want to know the story of how america became this so-called melting pot of different cultures and cuisines. a place where you can get mexican cooking on one block and then indian koong the next anda may can cooking on the next one after that. i want my readers to understand that there is so much struggle embedded in that wonderful reality consumers. and you see that struggle and the stories of -- in the store roifs each of these women and we should honor that struggle as much as possible. >> award winning wri

so let kevin mccarthy rent. people who love their country should be feeling good tonight. >> there is also in this legislation the strongest version of tax credit for the purchase to buyers of electric vehicles -- people who go shopping for a new car. when they start going and getting electric vehicles, there's a 7500 dollar tax credit on electric vehicles. but on vehicles that were built by union labor, they will have as high as a 12,500 dollar credit. that's basically taking $12,000 off the stick or that you are looking at. >> and you can drive that car from coast to coast with thousands of electric vehicle charging stations that were installed with good paying union labor all over the country. you've got it. and when you add that to the other infrastructure products projects, there's a reason that pipe fitters and plumbers and iron workers are standing up with democrats, just like they did with me the other day in new york. this is jobs as far as the eye can see, -- they are going to get created every year un

let kevin mccarthy rant. people who care about their country should feel good tonight. >> there's also in the legislation, the strongest version of tax credit for the purchase of -- to buyers of electric vehicles, people who go shopping for a new car, they're going to be looking at everything out there, when they start looking at the electric vehicles, there's going to be a $7,500 tax credit on every electric vehicle, but on the electric vehicles that were built by union labor, those are going to have as high as a $12,500 credit. that's basically just taking 12,500 off whatever sticker you're looking at. >> yeah, isn't that amazing, and you'll be able to drive that car from coast to coast with the thousands of electric vehicle charging stations that we're installing with good paying union labor all over the country. i mean, you've got it, and when you add that to the other infrastructure projects there's a reason that pipe fitters and plumbers and carpenters, and iron workers are standing up with democrats ju

i dell think much of mccarthy -- don't think much of mccarthy's brandt. not -- rant. republicans are only about obstructing and getting nothing done and tax cuts for billionaires. host: did you watch the speech? caller: i watched clips on c-span. mccarthy just parrots whatever trump won tend to say. i'm glad the democrats have passed the big bill. it will get paid for with taxes. host: it has not passed yet. caller: i believe it is going to pass. it is not easy, because the majority is -- they get things done. i might not agree with the democrats all the time. i'm a democratic-socialist. they get things done and the republicans do nothing, say no to everything, and obstruct. the only thing they do is tax cuts for the billionaires. i am paying more taxes now in new jersey because trump's tax bill does not allow me to write off my state and local taxes. my taxes went up triple. host: did you support adding the salt taxes back into the legislation? caller: well, the salt taxes, we still can't write them off, correct? host: there is an effort to put them back in, yes. cal

remember, kevin mccarthy once thought what marjorie taylor greene did was out of bounds. his remarks on the house floor yesterday about gosar's actions, he reserved the bulk of condemnation not for the terrible things he has done multiple times but reserved his biggest condemnation for democrats. take a listen. >> for democrats, this vote isn't about a video. it's about control. that's the one and only thing democrats are interested in. not condemning violence. not protecting the institution. not decorum, or decency, just control. the democrats want control and they don't care about the consequences. they're destroying this institution, silencing the minority, and therefore silencing the millions of americans. >> mccarthy trying to play the victim card there, this defense of gosar is a reminder of how twisted of a pretzel the republican leadership has done to themselves on the party as a whole, and how they have radically transformed themselves in apparent service to donald trump and trumpism and to own the libs. mccarthy's transformation is telling, think about this, bac

mccarthy is still speaking on the floor right now, 5:01 a.m. he's already broken the 2018 one previously held by speaker pelosi for longest house speech. >> i want go back to when we were respected around the world. i want to go back to when we didn't have north korea testing nuclear weapons. i want to go back to when china wasn't flying over taiwan every day. >> you know, this day there's only one black american elected to congress and to the senate, tim scott. madam speaker, i know your body knows how to impeach. you've done it twice in my district. there's two families that grow 50% of all the carrots in the country. have you ever eaten one of these baby carrots? it's no secret. they're bigger carrots. they just chop them smaller and charge you more to buy them. >>> congressman eric swalwell translated this one. we will keep an eye on mccarthy as he continues to talk and talk and talk. when the house does return to the floor for a vote, the bill looks likely to pass. centrist democrats who wanted to see the cbo scoring on testify bill indica

mccarthy. they are not bringing the temperature down and condemning violence and they have to do that because people are getting hurt. >> really quick, let me just say, kinzinger also just voted in favor with cheney. so two republicans. >> that gets you to -- >> not surprised. >> a lot of these republicans ran for the hills when donald trump would tweet something offensive. and they didn't want to talk about it, much less censure him or say he was wrong or anything like that. so they're not going to censure gosar because there's another excuse. there's always another excuse. and i think that's what we're seeing and i agree with you because what's very sad about all of this is that this is what we're in for. you change political parties now. it's going to be an eye for an eye. and everything will become elevated to a degree that it really shouldn't be. maybe it should be handled in the ethics committee or whatever. gosar needed to be censured as far as i'm concerned for inciting violence, partic

there's real bitterness that surprised me trump has towards kevin mccarthy, despite the way mccarthy has stood by him. >> we haven't talked, and i don't know what your conversations with kevin mccarthy have been, but it is interesting, it's hard to talk to somebody off the record who hasn't written a book that

any house republican that fears kevin mccarthy? i can give you a list of 50 house democrats maybe even 100 who fear being on the wrong side of speaker pelosi. is there anyone who fears being on the other side of kevin mccarthy? >> kevin mccarthy's greatest strength and i know this from experience is that he's a really good member to his member. kevin mccarthy is the kind of guy who will call members on their children's birthdays and show up when members personal life and why he was able to survive his failed run for speaker in 2015. now, leaders, it's good to be liked, but, you know, nancy pelosi the reason she's been successful and had such staying power, you could say the same thing about mitch mcconnell in the senate members are a little bit intimidated by these leaders at least and want to stay in their good graces. kevin's strength is that he's just a really good guy. very kind. we'll see if that's enough. >> look the rush chairs at sororities are always well liked. ali vitai, this vote today, any democrats that are quietly wo

>> kevin mccarthy is kind of a fraud. he doesn't send mean tweets and he's a clean-cut guy, but he's just as pernicious in terms of blocking action on major progressive items that are frankly good for all people. so the build back better agenda contains, as we know, a lot of the human infrastructure provisions like broadband, like -- [ distortion ] -- the bipartisan infrastructure ibm and kevin mccarthy is pitting on political theater right now with this whole filibuster using a tool that's available to him add minority leader but is not generally available to house members. what he's doing is irrelevant. it's a piece of showmanship, but it's good to know that he can talk because he didn't have a lot to say when paul gosar was censured yesterday. >> i want to play an exchange from the house floor earlier. take a listen. >> what hogwash from the other side to say that this bill helps the children with the child tax credit. your child tax credit is for one year, but you're -- you're -- you're tax break for millionaires is f

>> kevin mccarthy is kind of a fraud. he doesn't send men mean tweets but he's just as pernicious on blocking action on items that are good for the american people. so the build back better plan includes a lot of human infrastructure, like broadband and [inaudible] and kevin mccarthy is putting on absurdist to the gulf theater, using filibuster that is available to him as minority leader but is generally not available to house members. it's good to know he can talk, as he didn't have much to say when paul gosar was censured. >> i want to play an exchange from the house floor earlier. take a listen. >> what hogwash from the other side, to say that this bill helps the children with a child tax credit. your child tax credit is for one year but your tax breaks for millionaires is for a ten? >> this is a wonderful place. our child tax credit is when you are more than your child tax credit. we did one this year, we will do one next year, and we will keep going. >> susan, will democrats be better off as a whole if they sold it i

obviously, mccarthy was trying to make a point. . >> maggie, if we could put up some of the things mccarthy traced in out hours of speaking out loud, baby carrots, mcdonald's, red dawn. wolverine. i'm all for it. this may not have been much about the build back better plan or red dawn about something else. >> it is new to see this on a house floor speech. clearly it was not only about the bill. it was about a load of grievances, food. i clearly missed a bunch of it. he wants to be speaker. the republican party has been defined by this ethos now that trump put in place which is fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. so look like you're fighting. even if it's not going to delay passage of this bill, look like you are trying to keep it from going through. i think that's what he is doing. he is facing blowback over the fact that 13 republicans voted in favor of this bill to advance it, and he has been getting pressure to have kept them in line. trump has been telling people privately he's frustrated with mccarthy. take all that together, look at what mccarthy wants. if republicans retake the house

which could help mccarthy or trump could privately go against mccarthy and endorse someone else. the people to keep an eye on -- again, a year away -- are the really conservative members. the taylor greenes and mark gates. they are incredibly far right. take a listen to what greene said earlier this week about what she needs from a speaker if the republicans win the midterms. >> we know kevin mccarthy has a problem and doesn't have the full support to be speaker because there are many of us very unhappy about the failure to hold republicans accountable while conservatives like me and others take the constant abuse by the democrats. >> so really, the members to keep an eye on the next year are marjory taylor greene, matt gates and members of the very conservative caucus in the house about 40 members. marjory taylor greene tweeted she had a good call with mccarthy and did say, quote, i like what he has planned. that is not a full endorsement. a lot could happen between now and next year. >> let's dive into more of this with cnn reporter erol. thank you for joining us this morning.

is kevin mccarthy in charge of this caucus right now? >> he's more in charge of it than marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar who have been stripped of their committee assignments due to their outlandish and insulting comments and social media activity. for marjorie taylor greene to try to act like she's the spokesperson for conservatives in washington, d.c., it's quite laughable. look, it's really important -- i think mccarthy should have done a lot more with regard to lauren boebert aside from having a conversation with her and saying -- >> you think she should be thrown out of congress? >> i think the apology was important. she should have done that. there's no space for these kind of comments and this incendiary language on both sides, whether we're talking about anti-semitic, anti-muslim, there's no place for that for members of congress. but the frustrating thing is when we have people that are elected to congress that are less concerned with legislativing and more concerned with instigating. that's the problem here. marjorie taylo

want mccarthy to know that he stands on a trap door every day. it's these trumpy websites out there, trumpy organizations out, there they promote jim banks. he's a member of the house leadership committee now. he says he has no interest. you always say that. it's the right thing to say at this moment. the idea that you're heading into a midterm cycle, the wind is at your back, history says you should be able to take back the house, and yet you're the leader of the house republicans -- i've criticized him many times for not having the principle to stand up on many issues, including the big lie. but for many days you're on a tightrope. >> if you asked paul ryan or steve bannon about their experiences, i'm sure they would be happy to share them. for mccarthy, this has been a single focus in his climb for leadership, is he wants the lead the way as speaker. how you're thinking about getting to november, in order to be the speaker, your party has to win the majority, and then you have to be the guy who reaps the benefits of winning. so you have these

and you have whatever mccarthy is doing. what do you see americans are seeing this and between speeches about carrots and human and infrastructure and child care? >> well, i think you are exactly right earlier when you were saying all kevin mccarthy really did and he knew this from the beginning was delaying the vote. you're right. it got a daytime vote that everybody got to see. he knew this would have no impact on it and he was playing not only to donald trump, but others. he is talking about wanting to be speaker. he's tried this before. he's going to try it again if the republicans win the house. and it's not as easy as people may think if they win, right? you know, it's not a sure thing. he has been criticized by members of his caucus and he was criticized just the day before by donald trump's former chief of staff, mark meadows. he was showing donald trump and others what he was made of and that's really what that was about. and then of course, as you mentioned, democrats are moving ahead with this bill. but of course,

this is a big power move by mccarthy. he's marking his territory to become speaker if and when the republicans get the votes in 2022. i heard a prognosticator talk about this. this is a, the presidency by president biden and the democrats, mostly despite the poll numbers and pushback from the american people they will continue down this path with this reckless agenda. kevin mccarthy standing wearing khakis. you got to stand in something casual saying i don't want this to happen. if you put us, the republicans in power we will not let this happen and this is a big campaign commercial as we kick off 2022. carley: the fact that he has been speaking through the entire night most people have been sleeping, not something -- it is a big deal and nancy pelosi has the record, she spoke for a little over eight hours on dreamers in 2018-19, he is probably going to break that record but the vote could be held at 8:00 this morning and this is after the congressional budget office said the bill would increase the deficit by $360 billio

trump praise's mccarthy's speech. kevin mccarthy desperate to have -- keep donald trump on side, probably -- we talked to him directly but then maybe an indication that trump wanted this bill fought ferociously and this is kevin mccarthy's idea of fighting it ferociously, didn't someone float that trump could be speaker in the next house and the degree to which they are kowtowing to trump preemptively and that after the fact when he wants something from the top to the bottom of this party, the elected members, they're elected. trump is no longer elected. he's in charge but they're not. >> trump took another swing at -- at mcconnell today, bill, but that relationship continues -- >> mcconnell wants -- mcconnell also for all the abuse he's taken interest trump. trump endorsed a candidate in georgia whom mcconnell had privately been saying, oh, my god, we can't run him so basically it's trump's party and mccarthy and mcconnell manage that or subordinate themselves in different ways but subordinate themselves they do. >>

and for mccarthy, he doesn't want to change course. and he has decided the best thing for republicans to stay on track is to align himself with the former president. no matter how distasteful some of the comments may be. and i think we heard from congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez yesterday in the house. she is the one depicted in the animated video put out by congressman gosar, the republican from arizona. she's the victim in the video. and she gave a very plaintive cry on the house floor to speaker mccarthy saying, why is it so hard to say something is wrong? gu he didn't do that. he played whataboutism. and that's following the lead of donald trump. and this is just the latest example of just how tight trump's grip is on the republican party. >> well, garrett, just button this down for a moment before i want to bring in kristin and talk about the president's huge agenda today and whether or not that matches up with what people really care about right now on the economy. but garrett, another point about kevin mccarthy. >> andrea,

so mccarthy is all about vengeance. i have to tell you, anderson, what really struck me after listening to mccarthy yesterday and then hearing him today is that yesterday he took to the floor of the house, and he said what the democrats were doing was an abuse of power, and then today he promised that if he were to become speaker he would do exactly the same thing. so he's effectively saying well, okay, an eye for an eye, but i accuse them of abusing power, but when i do it it won't be abusing power. it's hard to understand. >> kirsten, what does it say about the party that republicans like gosar and greene have become elevated and yet liz cheney and 13 who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill, some of whom are now getting death threats, are shunned and practically ex-communicated? >> well, it shows you where the seat of power is in this party, and i think that you hear kevin mccarthy saying these things because he is afraid, particularly of marjorie taylor greene, who has made noises about leading a revolt agai

there is one thing kevin mccarthy did do. he gave the democrats their win in broad daylight in the middle of a friday when everybody was paying attention, congratulations, kevin, way to go. there is a lot to discuss tonight. let's bring in our panels. anita, i will start with you, i feel like there is a split here. there is a juxtoposition of democrats governing and getting massive consequential things going through and you have whatever mccarthy is doing. what do you see americans are seeing this and between speeches about carrots and human and infrastructure and child care? >> well, i think you are exactly right earlier when you were saying all kevin mccarthy really did and he knew this from the beginning was delaying the vote. you are right. it got a daytime vote that everybody got to see. he knew this would have no impact to it and he was playing not only to donald trump but others. he's talking about wanting to be speaker, he tried this before and he's going to try it again if republicans win the house and it's not as ea

and the message to mccarthy is trump has the leverage, trump has all the cards and mccarthy shouldn't assume his path to the speakership will be a cake walk even if it is the most likely scenario, it's not going to necessarily be easy and there will be challenges ahead for mccarthy, assuming they of course win the majority. >> so, congressman, how is it that mitch mcconnell manages to vote for the infrastructure bill and do his own thing, and still control the republican party in the senate, but kevin mccarthy doesn't seem to feel he has that much flexibility in the house? >> i think there is a lot more diversity in the house and when i say diversity, i mean on the political continuum. you really do have some center-right conservatives in the house that in swing districts that voted for the infrastructure bill, for example. but you have this large group, principally driven by hyper-gerrymandered districts, that their only mission really is to go up there and vote hard red. oppose everything the democrats are doing. but in the senate, mitch mcconnell -- i think it's a little more -- th

this is mccarthy's less chance to convince them. carley: he doesn't have to do this because speaker pelosi already delay the vote to 8:00 this morning. fred, from pennsylvania last hour, why is the minority leader still speaking of the vote will take place in 3 hours and congressman dollars that he speaking directly for the american people. you can see him getting applause from his party who supports him and that is because the minority leader and republicans feel this bills back better bill will damage the country by increasing the size of the government. when you think of the irs looking into people's bank accounts and giving handouts to the american people with no work incentives attached, something that could fundamentally change this nation. todd: this is not what the american people want because the american people are smart, they recognize all this is going to do even if they get some free stuff is going to drive up costs via inflation. they know this is happening, they are seeing it happening currently and pumping this much

mccarthy, denying him once again the dearest object of his ambition. that ambition, which has slipped from his grasp before, is the passion, and obsession of mccarthy's life. it is the load star that guides his every action and utterance. bill, what does it say that the house republican leader my indeed have to suck up to a woman that is both a crossfit and conspiracy aficionados. and has your committee assignments. >> not an election truth in our. and an anti-vaccination person. what it says is that the republican party is in very bad shape. not a news flash there. but a reinforcement of that is truly six argued. i had to previous discussion, they anti-vaccination stuff is more startling now as we face this unfortunately new area. let us hope is not more severe. probably is going to be spread more easily it looks like than the existing ones unfortunately. more vaccines, we might need new vaccines. much more testing. to reassure people if it spreads, so we don't have to shut down a whole classroom or school if one teacher comes up with it. hopefully a

and the message to mccarthy is trump has the leverage, trump has all the cards and mccarthy shouldn't assume his path to the speakership will be a cake walk even if it is the most likely scenario, it's not going to necessarily be easy and there will be challenges ahead for mccarthy, assuming that they, of course, win the majority. >> so, congressman, how is it that mitch mcconnell manages to vote for the infrastructure bill and do his own thing, and still control the republican party in the senate, but kevin mccarthy doesn't seem to feel he has that much flexibility in the house? >> i think there is a lot more diversity in the house and when i say diversity, i mean on the political continuum. you really truly do have some center-right conservatives in the house that, in swing districts, that voted for the infrastructure bill, for example. but you have this large group, principally driven by hyper-gerrymandered districts, that their only mission really is to go up there and vote hard red. oppose everything the democrats are doing. but in the senate, mitch mcconnell -- i think it's a li

mccarthy said he called him in the last week that the video came down, but mccarthy has never explicitly condemned any of it. so now democrats of course moving forward with this censure vote tomorrow. >> jessica, for this censure to work, the congressman has to be present in the house chamber. explain that and what happens if he doesn't show up, please. >> reporter: right. so one of these very -- again, a unique thing about this is that he will stand in the well of the house as this resolution is read. that's part of the whole censure procedure. he is required to be there. now, if he didn't show up, the sergeant at arms could go find him and haul him onto the house floor, but house democrats we've spoken to say they're kind of underscoring that as very unlikely to happen. but he is required to be there. again, is required to stand there as they read this resolution to him. back in 2010, we heard from rangel for about one minute after the vote. we'll see if that's how it transpires tomorrow. >> most republicans aren't expected to join democrats on this vote, correct? >> reporter: that's r

his actions, but mccarthy said he called him in the last week that the video came down, but mccarthy has never explicitly condemned any of it, so now democrats, of course, moving forward with this censure vote tomorrow. >> jessica, for this censure to work, the congressman has to be present in the house chamber. explain that and what happens if he doesn't show up, please. >> reporter: right, so, again, a unique thing about this is that he will stand in the well of the house as this resolution is read. that's part of the whole censure procedure. he is required to be there. now, if he didn't show up, the sergeant-at-arms could go and find him and haul him onto the house floor, but house democrats we've spoken to said they're kind of underscoring that as very unlikely to happen, but he is required to be there. and, again, is required to stand there as they read this resolution to him. back in 2010, we heard from rangel for about one minute after the vote. we'll see if that's how it transpires tomorrow. >> most republicans aren't expected to join democrats on this vote, correct? >> that'

but he doesn't really love mccarthy. so mccarthy could well win back the majority in the house, and then donald trump, the ever loyal donald trump could turn on him and decide he wants to back somebody else for speaker. i mean, mark meadows just suggested that maybe donald trump ought to be the next speaker of the house. so you have to consider this in its context. which is just kind of flexing his muscle a little bit because he can. >> yeah. just i'm talking to my colleague gloria borger here, because we're awaiting a vote on the president's build back better plan in congress. we should get it soon, if kevin mccarthy decides to give up the floor. he is speaking now, as we've been saying. kevin mccarthy is giving this long drawn-out speech on the floor. some democrats near mccarthy said that's all right. i got all night. and the group of democrats responded so do we, regarding the build back better, we've been wait for this for a long time. the white house saying the bill is fully paid for and will reduce the deficit. ho

senator mccarthy, i never saw it. senator, i have the application that he filled out, and i can show you. >> don't tell me i notarized it. >> no, you merely signed it. [laughter] >> there were 36 days of hearings in 1954, and television came into the picture, and people began to see -- and i must say, mccarthy was a heavy drinker, and he was constantly starting to go too far. he would interrupt people terribly, point of order, point of order. >> i don't know what it is, but it is a point of something. >> my point of order is that mr. jenkins yesterday was imposed upon and so was the secretary of the army by having a doctored or altered photograph produced in this courtroom as if it were honest. >> it was a committee rule. >> it was just rude and unruly. they said people started to joke about point of order on the streets of america. when tv showed for 36 days running the kind of guy he was he lost a lot of public support. , then he tried to name this young lawyer and whenever you -- whenever he named somebody it , was

quote if mccarthy doesn't appease green, she and the other deplorables might with hold votes from mccarthy denying him the dearest object of his ambition. that ambition which slipped from his grasp before is the passion. and obsession of mccarthy life. it is the load star that guides his every action and utterance. what does it say that the house republican leader might indeed have to suck up to a woman who is both a cross fit and conspiracy. and has zero committee assignments. >> and election truth denier. and antivaccination person. it says the republican party is in bad shape. not a news flash there. a reenforcement of that. again the previous discussion, the antivaccination stuff is more startling now as we base this unfortunately the new variant. which let us hope is not more severe. probably spread easily. the existing ones unfortunately. more vaccines. new vaccines. more testing. to reassure people if it spreads. we don't have to shut down the classroom and school. if one teacher comes up with it. hopefully a minor breakthrough situation. i mean i think biden should go after them on

if it can ever get out of the house with kevin mccarthy. and they're about to pass the social spending thing soon. kevin mccarthy's theatrics. ron, why is he doing this in what is his agenda? >> first of all, wouldn't it be great if a filibuster in the senate was this, where someone talked as long as they could and when they couldn't talk anymore you got to vote? >> so are you saying kevin mccarthy is a proponent of the standing filibuster? >> yeah. i think he's doing it for an audience of one. i think he's trying to show donald trump that he's doing everything possible to resist this bill. and therefore he is worthy of of being speaker if they get the majority next year. but look, this is -- this would be in one bill probably the most sweeping agenda democrats have passed since the great society congress in '65-66. if you look at the provisions of this legislation, for one thing the climate, $550 billion to accelerate the transition from fossil fuels to clean energy. but then all of the provisions. as austan said, it's not going to directl

so mccarthy is all about vengeance. i have to tell you, anderson, what really struck me after listening to mccarthy yesterday and then hearing him today is that yesterday he took to the floor of the house, and he said what the democrats were doing was an abuse of power, and then today he promised that if he were to become speaker he would do exactly the same thing. so he's effectively saying well, okay, an eye for an eye, but i accuse them of abusing power, but when i do it it won't be abusing power. it's hard to understand. >> kirsten, what does it say about the party that republicans like gosar and greene have become elevated and yet liz cheney voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill, some of whom are getting death threats and are shunned and excommunicated. >> it shows you where the seat of power is in this party and i think you hear kevin mccarthy saying these thing because he is afraid of marjorie taylor greene and he's saying this to try to appease her and keep her off of his back and then thrill the base wit

>> reporter: it's uncertain because kevin mccarthy is on the floor. they don't have filibusters in the senate -- in the house, but he is performing what is essentially a filibuster, which is under the procedures in the house, the majority leader and minority leader have what's called the magic minute. they're given one minute to speak, but they really can speak for as long as they want, and that is exactly what kevin mccarthy is doing. he started at 8:38 p.m. eastern time. we are now past 11:00 on the east, and he is still going, and there's no clear sign about exactly when he will speak, but he can go for as long as he wants. the question is will he try to go as long as nancy pelosi did when she was minority leader back in 2018, when she spoke for eight hours on the house floor during the time where she was protesting the issue of immigration? but here mccarthy is railing on the democrats' plans, railing on the biden agenda, talking about everything from afghanistan to defunding the police, you name it. kevin mccarthy is going after it. but it's not

mccarthy speaking for over eight hours. the gop leader highlighting the run-away spending and the impact on american families. >> some of its effects will be quickly felt. others not for a few years. but i guarantee you that no matter the timeframe, all the new washington spending in this bill is only the beginning of the disaster being thrust upon us. maria: more coming from the speech this morning, plus the details of the cbo's score on the bill, coming up right here. markets this morning are selling off. take a look. we are at the lows of the morning right now, futures indicating a decline of 200 points on the dow industrials, down 203 right now, s&p 500 down 11 and-a-half, nasdaq is higher, up 50 and three quarters, further into record territory. yesterday was another record setter. the s&p 500 and nasdaq both closed in unchartered territory yesterday, even with the dow slipping slightly, it too finished near record highs. the dow was down 60 points, the nasdaq at an all time high this morning with a gain of 72, s&p 500

on the matt gaetz, threw shade at kevin mccarthy and kevin mccarthy who needs those votes gives the eight-hour speech. >> and the reason kevin mccarthy didn't become speaker in the first place, paul ryan did, because mark meadows led the group to block it. >> what is mark meadows going to do next time around when kevin mccarthy is positioned to be the next speaker of the house if the republicans take back the majority. his conduct during this period of time very interest, and i think it could tell us. >> kevin mccarthy playing up his relationship with the president saying they spoke on the phone, right? >> that's his rejoineder to all of that, but because he needs the votes he won't allow shame or decency to be part of the family. up next for his, justice this afternoon, justice for two very lucky turkeys. president biden takes his first turn at a decades-old white house thanksgiving tradition. it's the ultimate sleep number event on the sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to relieve pressure points. and its temperature balancing so you both sleep jus

how is mccarthy playing that too? is he going to cave to those in the freedom caucus and move to take assignments or somehow publish -- punish the republicans who crossed the party lines? >> republicans are getting more heat within the republican conference than paul gosar is for this video. so far, it doesn't appear kevin mccarthy is going to support the effort to strip them of committee assignments or have punitive damage against them. he's really told his conference that now is not the time for this fight. he wants them to be unified against the build back better act. the other thing to really think about here is the comments that we're hearing from republicans privately is this is a really big, slippery slope. all of a sudden, if you vote for something the leadership is opposed to, that could mean you're going to be taken off committees, what happens when kevin mccarthy wants to be potentially speaker and you have a lot of these conservative members who might not want to vote for him? are they going to face the fa

back to kevin mccarthy. everybody knows how much he wants to be speaker of the house, still wanted to be when you were still in house of representatives yet he bends over backwards to please trump and then trump's allies, former white house chief of staff, mark meadows, float ideas like donald trump becoming speaker of the house. let's listen. >> i would love to see the gavel go from nancy pelosi to donald trump as -- talking about melting down. people would go crazy. as you know you don't have to be an elected member of congress to be the speaker. wouldn't you see -- she would go from tearing up a speech to having to give the gavel to donald trump? oh, she would go crazy. >> congressman, what's your response to that? >> i read that this morning and couldn't believe it. our entire party is suffering from what i would call a trump domination syndrome. the leaders of our party sycophantically going to see trump and soliciting his views. the inability to be reasonable about people like paul gosar and about the

i still think if republicans win mccarthy will probably be speaker. >> brez, the idea of a speaker mccarthy actually had me rooting for speaker jordan -- had me rooting for speaker mccarthy. the panel is going to stick with me because we have to sound off to them other sunday shows. stay right here. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ want your clothes to smell freshly washed all day without heavy perfumes? to unveil them to the world. try new downy light in-wash scent beads. it has long-lasting light scent, no heavy perfumes, and no dyes. finally, a light scent that lasts all day. new downy light! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ with chase security features, guidance and convenience, banking feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. [gaming sounds] [gaming sounds] [gaming sounds] just think, he'll be driving for real soon. every new chevy equinox comes standard with chevy safety assist, including automatic emergency braking. find new peace of mind. find new roads. chev

trump praised mccarthy's speech, he praised kevin mccarthy speech, he is desperate to keep donald on his side. it's an indication that trump wanted this bill fought ferociously. i think someone said that trump would be speaker in the next house, the degree to which they are from [inaudible] the top to the bottom of this party no elected he is in, charge and they are not. >> and trump took another swing at mcconnell today, bill, but that relationship continues? >> mcconnell, also, for all the abuse he has taken from trump and a tiny bit of pushing back, he endorsed walker just a couple of weeks ago, trump endorsed camp a bit in georgia, who mcconnell had been saying a couple of months before all my god, we can't have him. they sickly it's trump's party, mccarthy and mcconnell subordinate themselves in different ways, but subordinate themselves they do. >> our thanks to our two friends donna edwards and bill crystal for joining us on a friday night, especially given the week we have all had. coming up for us after our next break, pulitzer prize willing presidential historian john meach

there kevin mccarthy understands. it which is why, he is rewarding the worst behavior of his own congress. he is putting paul co-starred in the back. and, now, today, pledging not only to restore marjorie taylor greene, that she was stripped. from but to give them promotions. >> do you plan to give marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar, their committee assignments back? >> they all have committees. the committee assignment they have, now they may have other committee assignments, they may have better committee assignments. >> that is an added point for gosar. from leadership, after he posted a video of murdering his colleague. and, keep in, mind there are dozens of people, auditioning right now to be the next most extreme house republican. things don't stop, right? for america, we have found nearly 50 2022 king grass candidates, who -- if you think this freshman classes, bad just weeks. u.s., not all of these candidates are gonna. win but at one point they will. or some other person with these fringe extremes beliefs

i think mccarthy will be the next speaker. there are people he has to placate and doesn't feel great with boebert and greene saying outrageous garbage commentary. it doesn't speak for me as a republican, i know it doesn't speak for ramesh. republicans have the path forward for the country to get us out of them. these people get in the way of having discussions about these policy issues when they say crazy things. i wish kevin mccarthy would take a stronger hand with these folks and let them know that the republican brand depends on us having messages against joe biden and the problems he's causing and not messages like what we're seeing out of boeb bert and greene and others. >> nice to see you all in person. happy thanksgiving. >>> coming up, a moderate democrat. i went back home to spend time with the congressman there to see how the fight for the balance of power is really playing out. i got the awesome new iphone 13 pro and airpods, and t- mobile is paying for them both! and this is for new and existing customers. upgrade

the only fun anyone got out of this demented spectacle was getting the chance to heckle mccarthy like when ohio congressman tim ryan yelled at him from the back, "keep going, no one's listening. [ laughter ] and then yesterday mccarthy went on one of fox news's most deranged shows, with maria bartiromo, to be congratulated for going off the deep end, while whining about democrats interrupting him >> congratulations, how is your voice after doing eight and a half hours speaking? >> you know, my voice is still strong because it's still strong for the american people. you know, when i went to the floor i had no idea we would speak that long. it wasn't about breaking the record it was about breaking down this bill and the amount of heckling that they would try to do to stop me from being able to talk. >> seth: "i never thought i'd talk that long, but right before i went on the floor i got this very jarring news about baby carrots. [ laughter ] this guy is such a goober. he sounds like a substitute teacher complaining to the principal that his high school class won't stop chucking things a

lean on mccarthy and even as he tries to crack down. look at the top house republican fund-raisers of the top 15, not all of them, you see the leader steve scalise and kevin mccarthy one and two, marjorie taylor greene, jim jordan, matt gaetz, lauren boebert, madison caw thorngs all in the top 15. the trump base, the small donor base of the republican party sends them money which makes them forces to be reckoned with in the republican family. that's what kevin mccarthy looks at which he shouldn't. >> look, it's a choice that mccar think is making and all republicans are facing. yes, they want to win the majority and yes they are looking at what is actually going on with their base and the fact that their base is very much still loyal to trump and also that their base is believing the big lie, so this party has to decide and these republican leaders have to decide are they going to try to steer their voters towards the truth, or are they going to continue to lie to them in order to win elections? >> really quick. lauren boebert made thos

i think kevin mccarthy is the odds on leader. but let's not forget, jessica, what the danger is here. lauren boebert is lying. lauren boebert, what she said about ilhan omar, she's a bigot. boebert is a bigot. but most importantly lauren boebert incited violence against another fellow member of congress. she called a fellow member of congress a suicide bomber. the scary thing, though, jessica, is lauren boebert is exactly where the republican party base is. you and i consider what she said to be outrageous. the base doesn't. >> it is outrageous. and to just sit there and listen to it, you hear her getting laughs from the crowd there, it is clearly done for laughs. and she's probably going to fund-raise off of it and make a fair amount of money for her re-election campaign. it boggles the mind, but to your point, that's where her base, that's where the republican party base is right now. >> that's the danger. look, lauren boebert is who she is. jessica, the danger for all of us is the republican party base does not consider outrag

kevin mccarthy cheers him on with excuses. meantime, republican provocateur, marjorie taylor greene dropping bombs on her twitter page. praising anti-semitic leader lewis farrakhan and the nation of islam's opposition to vaccine mandates and calling the 13 house republicans who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill traitors, tweeting out their phone numbers. >> it's a terrible way, you know, we've seen civility really down slide here. >> reporter: one of those republicans, congressman fred upton blaming green after receiving numerous disturbing phone calls, one of which his office provided to cnn. >> [ bleep ] traitor. that's what you are. you're a [ bleep ] traitor. i hope you die. i hope everybody in your [ bleep ] dies. >> it truly is frightening. a real, real bad mark in terms of the civility across the country as we've seen these issues like this jump. >> reporter: former president trump is amplifying greene's message at a florida fundraiser last night according to a gop source who heard the remarks. blasting the 1

but listen, here's what mccarthy thinks. mccarthy sees the democratic party trying to muscle through legislation having these inter-party struggles, these inter-party wars and he doesn't want to step on that message with his own party being kind of an open conflict of so that's what's driving him here but yes, behind the scenes he did tell gosar to take down the tweet and he did force him to release a statement that says he's not for violence but, i mean, again, i would have to say here gosar's bizarre fantasy of killing another member of congress and the fact that he not only -- whether he had it commissioned or not, he posted it, left it up for a period of time and had to be told to take it down speaks to the fact that this person and this -- the politics has don completely nuts. and gosar has obviously has some strange things on his mind. >> you know, punchbowl news put it this way, if you like the flavor and the vibe of the republican majority, you know, take this into consideration and you listed what we did as well. bu

and quite frankly, mccarthy is scared of their influence. after all, marjorie taylor greene says she doesn't think mccarthy is a shoo-in for the speaker's gavel. she said donald trump's endorsement will make the final difference. mark meadows, who used to be a member of congress, is currently essentially evading a duly ordered congressional subpoena, he's out there plugging trump for the position of speaker himself. >> i would love to see the gavel go from nancy pelosi to donald trump, you talk about melting down. people would go crazy. as you know, you don't have to be an elected member of congress to be the speaker. wouldn't you see, she would go from tearing up a speech to having to give the gavel to donald trump. oh, she would go crazy. >> now, at least that's honest about your vision of government for the country. now, there odds of donald trump, a man who has zero interest in governance in the house are quite low, but a crescendo will build for it, 100%. the sentiment is out there. kevin mccarthy understands it, which is why he's rewar

mccarthy is just stating what we already know. that if this party comes back, it's going to be one giant revenge fantasy. >> what they have started cannot be easily undone. their actions today and in the past have forever changed the way the house operates. and furthermore, it means that under the pelosi president, all the members that i have mentioned earlier will need the approval of a majority to keep those positions in the future. >> that's not a serious man. he is just not. so while the responsible party, the only party left that cares about democracy at this point, the yes sometimes irritating party that keeps the lights on and makes sure you go to the doctor, that part of the democrats, well, they spent today working to clear the messy final hurdles to pass the billion dollar billion bill which will get americans day care and home health care and cheap prescription drugs and help save the planet. a vote on that is expected later tonight. while they are doing that, like regular politics, your drunk mostly absentee nazi curio

leader mccarthy wouldn't do it. so democrats had to. first of all, we know that hate speech leads to hate crimes. we know that death threats lead to death. look at what is taking place throughout the country in terms of women and people of color and the threats we are receiving each and every day. i have had decades of death threats. i know what this is about. we had to do something. enough is enough. this hatred, this trying to mischaracterize what mr. gosar said and did, it is no laughing matter. this was a direct threat to congresswoman ocasio cortez and to our president and it cannot be tolerated. in the broader community throughout the country, this could have been an act that could warrant some criminal charges. so, come on, the minimal we could do is what we did today in terms of censure and take him off his committees. enough is enough. >> congresswoman, his brother believes that criminal investigation and prosecution is warranted. do you see that in the cards? >> well, i'm not sure. you know, the authorities have to address tha