he promptly joined the new nixon administration in 199 working with daniel patrick moynihan and later working with domestic adviser john ehrlichman a special system to the president for urban affairs. he ultimately became head of government relations for chase manhattan bank and present ceo of the federal bank of pittsburgh. a special note jonas joined this evening by his daughter alexandria so welcome to both of you. john's new book "the last liberal republican" an insider's perspective on nixon's surprising social policy" reveals the influence of those of moynihan and ehrlichman and the broader demonstrations very at ease. these men who surrounded the president impacted american social policy for decades much of which we are only realizing now. richard nixon shocked democrats the extent of his -- he proposed a guaranteed family income and almost achieved a national health insurance program as a republican but i will save the rest of the conversations for these two gentlemen so pleased turn me in welcoming john roy price in frank gannon. [applause] b at the division of labor. it's a

proudly joined the new nixon administration in 1969. john later went into banking ultimately becoming head of government relations for chase manhattan bank and president and ceo of the federal home loan bank of pittsburgh. john has joined this evening by his daughter alexandra and son phil. welcome both of you. john's new book, the last liberal republican and insiders perspective on nixon's surprising social policy revealed influence of those across the broader administration priorities and how these men who surrounded the president and the president himself impacted american social policy for decade, much of which we're only realizing now. often richard nixon surprised democrats and shocked republicans with the extent of his pragmatism. he proposed a guarantee familied income and almost achieved a national health insurance program, if you can believe it as a republican. i'll save the best of the conversation for these two gentlemen. join me in backing john price and frank beganen. >> john is eminent, and i am imminent. division of labo

he proudly joined the new nixon administration in 1969. working with daniel patrick moynahan and later working with domestic adviser john earlson as special assistant to the president for urban affairs. john later went into banking, ultimately becoming head of government relations for chase manhattan bank and president and ceo of the federal home loan bank of pittsburgh. john has joined this evening by his daughter alexandra and son phil. welcome both of you. john's new book, the last liberal republican and insiders perspective on nixon's surprising social policy revealed influence of those including moynahan and earlman across the broader administration priorities and how these men who surrounded the president and indeed the president himself impacted american social policy for decades, much of which we're only realizing now. often richard nixon surprised democrats and shocked republicans with the extent of his pragmatism. he proposed a guaranteed family income and almost achieved a national health insurance program, if you can believe it

fellows in the nixon administration and the latest served as special assistant to counselor, rumsfeld and he was a chief editorial of the research and the memoir's writings the former president years and sent clemente. and he is the rare distinction of having sat and interviewed the formerer president for 38 hours, on tape,e, in 1983 rightn those materials now reside at the university of georgia keep body archived in our distinguished speaker is a rhodes scholar, john roy price harvard educated attorney and cofounded the society migrant from the 1968, rockefeller campaign to that of richard nixon. he probablyd joined at the nixn administration in 1969, working for the urban affairs council later working with domestic advisor, as special assistant to the president, urban affairs. john later went into banking and also becoming head of government relations firm and had a bank in of the federal loan bank of pittsburgh. and especially noted that john roy price's jointed this evening by his daughter alexandria and his son feel so welcome to both of you predict john's new book, the last repu

administration. we are going to build a million new affordable housing units. we are going to be the custodians of this planet. and while we clean the water and air, we are also going to create millions of good jobs. this is the promise of the build back better agenda. and with this momentous step, we say to the american people, we are meeting your historic challenge with historic progress. i'm so grateful to this caucus and to president biden for making this possible. rep. pelosi: thank you. you have heard me say it again and again, all of this would not be possible without members of the committee, the staff of our committee and distinguished chairs, three of them with us in terms of the substance of the legislation. we have -- of energy and commerce and mr. scott, the chairman of education and labor. but the person who facilitated this again and again, the chairman of the rules committee, mr. mcgovern. thank you for bringing us to the floor again and again. and yesterday, in record time, however,

administration. saying that we are going to build a million new affordable housing units. we are going to be the custodians of this planet. and while we clean the water and air, we are also going to create millions of good jobs. this is the promise of the build back better agenda. and with this momentous step, we say to the american people, we are meeting your historic challenge with historic progress. i'm so grateful to this caucus and to president biden for making this possible. rep. pelosi: thank you. let me just say that -- you have heard me say it again and again, all of this would not be possible without the great work of the committees, members of the committee, the staff of our committee, and distinguished chairs. three of them with us in terms of the substance of the legislation. we have -- of energy and commerce and mr. scott, chairman of education and labor. but the person who facilitated this for us again and again, the chairman of the rules committee, mr. mcgovern. thank you for bringing

administration. >> i superb human being. he went on in the world of words and he wound up being a publisher and he was teaching at george washington university. >> how would you characterize general review of nixon and 66? >> i supposed, he had worked from 64, very strongly. he traveled with nixon for months during that autumn but the rest of the people were probably more with rockefeller who emerged as the counter piece, rockefeller was a big state, big government, big spender and part of the party that was liberal's. >> before he deflated, romney -- >> romney had -- he was the governor in michigan, his father had come recently. he never went to college but he was someone who wore his heart on his sleeve. his passionate, particularly a scrapper, he would wait into opposition parties, jump into a meeting or a democratic area so he had the strength of his conventions and his holdings were extraordinary, they were higher because appealed to the evangelicals, he was a mormon, lds but the sense of faith in him was so powerful he

. >> may i ask -- may i ask -- >> it actually started under the nixon administration. that was the war on drugs, which has failed. the reason people are dying from this, as greg has rightly pointed out, it's not because they're putting too much into their bodies because they don't know what they're putting in their bodies because drugs are illegal in this country. saying to kids, drugs are bad, mkay, it doesn't stop them from putting stupid things in their bodies. if we knew what were in the substances people were ingesting because, guess what, here's the actual dirty little secret, people are not going to stop doing drugs no matter what you say to them. >> i agree. >> they're not going to stop, legalize drugs so we know what's in them so our kids stop dying. >> and prince, not just kids. >> to solve this problem, you have to frame it the right way. this is not a drug epidemic. this is a mass poisoning. it's an act of terror. despite what the media says, these are not overdoses of patients, right? it is china poisoning people who use drugs. these are the people who use

a group called birds aren't real claims all birds were replaced by the government back in the nixon administration with robotic drones. so obviously the question of the morning, do the guides behind birds aren't real think birds aren't real or is it an elaborate social commentary, and they insists they are being jen been. if they were not being genuine, that would be very funny social commentary. so are birds real? we can't say. >> where are they getting money from? >> t-shirt sales. they sell a lot of t-shirts and stickers. how would the birds be recharged? you see them sitting on power lines, don't you? >> sounds like you are buying into it. >> something is going to happen at twitter today. people will be yelling and carrying signs. >> we'll be watching and waiting. >>> we are feeling the pinch from inflation, but one item getting hit especially hard, and that's beef. the price for a boneless chuck roast now approaching $8, and that's up from just under 30%. the reason is the meat packaging shortage. some companies are offering signing bonuses in four figures to get workers. diners are feeling t

administration. he likes richard nixon so much he's got a tattoo on his back. he's also donald trump's henchman and fixer which is why in 2019 stone was convicted of seven felony counts stemming from the russia investigation, including obstruction of the investigation, lying to investigators and witness tampering. that then only resulted in president trump commuting his sentence in july 2020 just in time for stone to help plan the january 6 insurrection. stone appeared at multiple stop the steal events and just this evening he was subpoenaed by the bipartisan house committee investigating insurrection. according to the subpoena, you reportedly spoke on january 5th at rallies at the u.s. supreme court held by a group affiliated with the right-wing militia the 3%ers and used members of the oath keepers as personal security guards, several of whom were reportedly involved in the attack on the capitol. you stated that you were invited to lead a march to the capitol on the ellipse rally on january 6. the

administration, obviously a key figure in the watergate investigation. mr. dean as always, great to have you here. so the judge criticized the trump team's executive privilege claim. give us a quick background on executive privilege. do you think it can be successfully invoked in this case? >> executive privilege comes from the separation of powers that the fact we have three branches of government and each branch can do its own thing within its own powers and the other branch has limited rights to look at what they're doing. for example we can't look at what the judge's law clerk is doing. the president is saying even though i'm no longer president this is stuff that happened while i was so therefore i have a right to withhold it. well, i don't think that is going to hold up. i think the judge sounds like she was trying to narrow the breadth of the inquiry or the request for documents a little bit but she is not buying that because this was a very unusual, if an insurrection isn't criminal it is certainly out of all boundaries of democracy. that's prett

the reagan administration, the nixon administration. i think the worry now that they're in each other's arms and you have a marriage of russian military equipment and russian natural resources and chinese technology and money. that's a lethal combination. let's say putin makes a move against ukraine this winter. what is beijing do, they're looking at that and saying wait a minute we boys wanted taiwan and we've been pretty clear that were capable of doing a military action. i think that beijing makes its move after the beijing olympics in february. david: how things have changed in just a year. good to see you. retail expert burt flickinger. holiday shopping a black friday and cyber monday. we'll find out what the numbers are and how the rest of the shopping season is looking as we deal with rising inflation in the supply chain crisis. later this hour retailers force to beef up security smash and grab a tax break out all over the country. how much more of businesses can take before they pack up and leave. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

aid and left it up to the nixon administration on how to proceed. nixon's answer came pretty quickly. may of 1969 his administration restored aid to the regime. the decision grew partly seems to me from the newer administration's broader efforts, sort of lower american ambitions to reshape brazil the for that matter lots of other developing countries in the world. nixon said in a nationally televised speech that the united states was entering a new era which it couldn't hope to do everything, couldn't hope to promote democracy and development all over the world as his democratic predecessor had done. and not only that, but he promised that the united states was going to, as he put it, deal realistically with latin american governments no matter their character. he made clear to say the united states moved on from the pay-any-price, bear-any-burden era that had come only a small number of years before. nixon's decision also may well have flowed from genuine --. if brazil was a dictatorship he said on one occasion captured on the taping system, it sho

administration, saying that we are going to build a million new affordable housing units, we are going to be the custodians of this planet, and while we clean the water and air, we are also going to create millions of good jobs. this is the promise of the build back better agenda, and with this momentous step, we say to the american people, we are meeting your historic challenge with historic progress. i am so grateful to this caucus and to president biden for making this possible. >> thank you very much. let me just say that -- you've heard me say it again and again, all of this would not be possible without the great work of our committee, members of the committee, and staffs of the committee and our distinguished chairs. three of them are with us in terms of the substance of the legislation. but the person who facilitated this for us again and again is the chairman of the rules committee, mr. mcgovern. thank you, mr. mcgovern, for bringing us to the floor again and again and yesterday in record time. however, good thing that that happened. and then i'm honored to be here also with o

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administration, saying that we are going to build a million new affordable housing units. we are going to be the custodians of this planet. and while we clean the water and air, we are also going to create millions of good jobs. this is the promise of the build back better agenda. and with this momentous step, we say to the american people, we are meeting your historic challenge with historic progress. i am so grateful to this caucus and to president biden for making this possible. >> let me just say that -- you've heard me say it again and again. all of this would not be possible without the great work of our committees, members of the committee, and staffs of the committee, and tour distinguished chairs. three of them are with us in terms of the substance of the legislation, mr. pallone and chairman -- i should say, chairman, chairman, chairman, of education and labor. but the person who facilitated this for us again and again was the chairman of the rules committee, mr. mcgovern. thank you, mr. mcgovern for bringing us to the floor again and again, and yesterday, in rec

i am remembering as well nixon's administration. alexander butterfield, one of the most loyal deputies to president nixon that you would ever find, ultimately concluded his loyalty had to end somewhere where it was starting to pain his future and his sense of self. and he ultimately agreed to tell the committee, and ultimately tell the world, that nixon had been taping all of these conversations that were the evidence of him trying to obstruct a criminal probe. >> it's such a good -- sometimes the watergate parallels don't hold up because our country is less than it was then, if that lands uncomfortably, i'm sorry. that's the truth. but it is important to remember that we don't know what we don't know. in this statement that i read from from liz cheney and chairman chompson, they say once again, more than 150 people already talked to us. we don't know who those are. we only know these ones that are fought, that are subpoenaed. that's a great point. i ask both of you to stick around. we will have much more on the breaking news of the

whether joe biden has chosen to assert it, you know, donald trump as the nixon versus administrator court also recognized the former president does have the ability to assert the privilege. now, whether it's enforceable or not, you know, i think is probably a facts and circumstances question. but here the former president has invoked, which is going to be relied upon by both bannon and a prosecution and presumably by mark meadows as well in contention with, you know, how he deals with congress in the future. >> but has trump invoked the privilege to stop bannon and/or meadows or anyone else from testifying, ellie? >> he sent a letter saying, yes, i would like you to not -- i would like you to give me a chance to play this out in the courts and see how it comes out. now, bob's right that privileges are important. we shouldn't just throw all privileges out the window because we want to know everything. however -- and that's exactly why steve bannon is in a tricky spot here. steve bannon would have been much better situated to defend himself if he was selected, if he said, i invoke privilege

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and ford administrations. a new book "master of the game, henry kissinger and the art of middle east diplomacy" chronicles the strategy behind the scenes. i spoke with author martin indyk. welcome to the "newshour." it's very good to have you with us. congratulations on the book. let me ask you aut what you've written here. we know henry kissinger, enormously influential figure in american foreign policy, yet he's been out of office for, what, over 45 years. and people think of him, many do, in connection with china, vietnam. but you've chosen to focus on the middle east. why? >> two reasons -- and thank you so much for having me -- the first is that kissinger's time as secretary of state, his four years as secretary of state, was essentially consumed with middle east peace making and that's not commonly understood. the second reason was a personal one. you know i have been involved in peace making both in the clinton administration and then in the obama administration. in the clinton administration, it blew u

administration. >> i don't disagree with that. i just want to point out another clarion call of concern from the editorial pages, this from thomas edsel, his piece entitled "democrats shouldn't panic, they should go into shock." in the rise of inflation, supply chain shortages, a surge in illegal border crossings, persistence of covid, mayhem in afghanistan and the uproof over critical race theory, all of these developments individually and collectively have taken their toll on president biden and democratic candidates. so much so that democrats are now the underdogs going into 2022 and possibly 2024. edsel goes on to note that the dismal poll numbers which tells the tale as things stand, if the midterm elections were today, 51% of registered voters say that they would support the republican in their congressional district, 41% say the democrat. that's the biggest lead for republicans in the 110 year abc post polls that have asked this question since 1981. and he continues, these and other friends have provoked a deepening pessimi

your final word, senator boozman. >> the difference between nixon and ford this administration is intentionally creating higher prices. when you go to get rid of the keystone pipeline, when you have a situation where you nix drilling on public lands, we're getting more oil from russia, than we are from alaska. that is driving up cost. the average price of gasoline's a dollar quarter more than it was a year ago. americans this thanks giving in many areas will be a lot colder. people on fixed incomes, because fuel costs are going to be up 30%. elizabeth: we got to go. senator john boozman, ashley hinson. "the washington post" issues dozens of corrections on stories going back years how fictitious the hillary clinton steele dossier is bad as it is. how do up next congresswoman michelle steel on house republicans demanding the education secretary turn over all documents on the targeting of school board parent as domestic terrorists. what does the education department have we don't know about? we investigate. back in two. as someone who resembles someone else, i appreciate that liberty mutual knows

but, of course, in nixon versus general services administration, they said the former president also holds the privilege. it is the institutional privilege so important here. because we want people to be able to speak freely with an executive on matters of strategy, security and otherwise. but, again -- >> again, i mean, again, on that, u.s. v. nixon established a president has legal duty to provide evidence to a president -- a sitting president has a duty to provide evidence of one's communications when relevant to a criminal case. >> yeah, but -- but executive privilege is a well known status and the mazar case, the supreme court emphasized the sanctity of executive privilege. once it has been invoked, go to the court and have the court determine how it should be applied. the house could have gone to court, had the discovery dispute resolved by court and mr. bannon's lawyer said to the house committee, if a court orders me to comply with this and says privilege doesn't apply, i will comply. >> the former president, look, he may have some interesting arguments to make when it comes

. >> mark on nixon? >> as i mentioned quickly in my presentation, nixon was eternally criticized from his own party you can see that as the watergate crisis develops. you can also see it in a broader sense as the 1970s advances in a different brand comes powerfully to the floor that is quite critical of what he stood for foreign policy is the best place to see that. it's pretty broad critique of this relatively moderate style of politics and foreign policy and reagan does in a different direction. i would not call it hatred. i think it would call it something more like indifference or a desire to distance oneself from what had come just before but there certainly individuals who might be characterized as having hated nixon. barry goldwater gives us some of the most colorful language that anyone has given us and criticizing richard nixon. >> let me offer if i may a bonus president bill clinton during the era of impeachment obviously he was justified by his enemies throughout his presidency. once he was im

may of 1969 his administration restored aid to the regime. the decision grew partly seems to me from the newer administration's broader efforts, sort of lower american ambitions to reshape brazil the for that matter lots of other developing countries in the world. nixon said in a nationally televised speech that the united states was entering a new era which it couldn't hope to do everything, couldn't hope to promote democracy and development all over the world as his democratic predecessor had done. and not only that but he promised that the united states was going to, as he put it, deal realistically with latin american governments no matter their character. he made clear to say the united states moved on from the pay any price, bear any burden era that had come only a small number of years before. nixon's decision also may well have flowed from genuine --. if brazil was a dictatorship he said on one occasion captured on the taping system, it should be, he said, in order to cope with disorders internationally and throughout latin america. e

so the nixon versus the general services administration case exactly said what you said, which is that really it is and the presidential records act which was pasted in the post watergate period says that the privilege resides primarily with the current executive. and biden has waved that privilege. trump has a right to his opinion but ultimately the court should rule in my estimation in favor of no privilege because biden and congress need the information or want the information and trump's desire should be overcome by that desire for disclosure. >> really fascinating topic. thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> it seems like the price of everything is going up with surging inflation and it is really hurting food banks. up next, we'll be joined by the head of the greater chicago food depository to talk about what they're seeing this year. >>> plus another person has died from injures due to the surging crowd at the astro world concert. how could future tragedies be avoided. that conversation is ahead. nk bt if a pair of gogglgles can help your backhand get better yeah! then your bank s

he likes richard nixon so much, she's got a tattoo of nixon on his back. still also, notoriously is donald trump's longtime associate, ally, henchmen, and fixer. which is why in 2019, stone was convicted of seven felony counts, stemming from the russian investigation, including, obstruction investigation lying to investigators and witness tampering. that then only resulted in president trump committee with his sentence, in 2020. just in time for stone to help plan the january 6th insurrection, stone appeared at multiple stop to steal events. in the days leading up to the attack. and just this even he was subpoenaed by the bipartisan house committee investigating the insurrection. according to the subpoena, quote, you reportedly spoke on january 5th a rallies that the u.s. supreme court, held by a group affiliated with the right wing of the c three percenters at the freedom plaza. while in washington, you reportedly use members at the oath keepers and personally security, guard several of them were reportedly involved in the attack on the u.s. capitol. you

the justice department lawyer said yes, under a supreme court decision involving president nixon and the general services administration, the supreme court did say that former presidents have some authority, but that the ultimate decisionmaker is the current occupant of the white house. so the justice department said to the judge, yes, mr. trump has some authority to exert executive privilege, he's done so, and the president has rejected his claim. and that's the end of the matter. it's not up to the judge to second guess it. so for all those reasons, hallie, and others, i think it's clear that the judge here is going to deny the president's request to try to block this. >> what is the timeline for next steps here? lay out sort of where this goes from here. >> well, the deadline that's been set by archives when they would begin to turn over this disputed material is november 12th. and the judge said she will issue her ruling, as she said today, expeditiously. and she did do this on a hurry up schedule, this hearing. i would assume that she'll issue a ruling in the next few days. then

because of what the administration was doing or, quite frankly, lbj and his great society. [laughter] >> yeah. that failure of the '70s had a lot of fathers. we've been talking about the fed and president biden, there's plenty the of blame to go around here. but it's really, it is just the most destructive thing you can do when you start the messing with what is really a bedrock of society, the value of our currency. and let's hope they focus on solving that that problem. dagen: well said, james. hey, we got almost, we have more than two and a half hours, so save your good stuff the for later. i'm just kidding. thank you, james. >>> coming up, biden's approval rating plunging to new lows. we get into the numbers. but no gifts under the tree are, a record number of americans are sitting out holiday season. we'll tell you why in this morning's hot topic buzz. ♪♪ [engine humming] [clapping] “we will rock you” by queen ♪ the new gmc sierra with hands-free driving offers the most advanced and luxurious pick-up in its class. ♪ yeah, it rocks. ♪ yeah, it rocks. today

so let me end by saying this, now as we step back 25, 30 years from the wilson administration, we now can see how splendid the day was during governor wilson's tenure. thank you. [applause] >> -- a place where everybody refers to everybody else as my friend. it can hard to form real and lasting friendships in a place like congress. that's why we have been so grateful to have pete and gayle wilson as true friends for many years now. he was already in the senate when i arrived in 1985. i liked him right away. he was a principled leader and an effective legislator across a number of subjects. but of course [inaudible] -- one step in his career as public service. he stood up for things like public safety. imagine that. so my friend, i'm sorry i couldn't be there to celebrate in person. congratulations on this occasion and on your remarkable record of accomplishments. >> i was lucky enough to get to know pete and gayle when i was just starting [inaudible]. pete always welcomed diversity in the party, the government, and our country. he was a stalwart champion of the contributions the immig

this is the story for the administration right now. that is why i asked the question to ann marie. have we moved on already? alix: it really feels like yes. you can look at the market reaction to the heart and for structure bill, and it was pretty nonexistent. maybe individual idiosyncratic sectors or stocks, but that was kind of it. let's get more into this. andy blocker, invesco head of u.s. government affairs, joins us now. guy and i were talking about the fact that the market moved on. we really need to trillion dollars worth of stimulus? bidens approval rating is also pre-low. do you think we are at an inflection point for the biden administration? andy: i think you are having the right conversation, but let's take a step back. president biden campaigned on being able to work in a bipartisan manner to get things done for the american people, so getting the bipartisan it for structure bill is a big win for him. but you are also talking about the fact that inflation is a huge issue. so even though they are happy that they got this done, he still hasn't seen it in his numbers. he

it wasn't nixon, it was ford and kissinger lost after nixon's efforts, kissinger's efforts, carter lost and bush did not get a second term. i don't think that we can lay it on the basis of their middle east peacemaking, but it is an interesting commonality. one structural contrast i wanted to ask about is we are talking about two episodes in one president and there is a fundamental difference between being the elected president and being the appointed and confirmed secretary of state. can we say word about the relationship between president and secretary of state in the relevant administration, and how much that mattered to the success or lack thereof of the diplomacy? and the effort to achieve a certain worldview that animated the diplomacy in each of these cases? let's work backwards. susan, let me start with you with the baker-bush relationship. >> that is an important one to spotlight. unlike the kerry-obama recent experience, baker and bush really were a partnership that is almost historically without other precedent. in some ways they were the closest secretary of state and americ

time that wanted the records, said, look, presidents ford and carter who came after president nixon, they weren't asserting executive privilege. that made part of the difference in that case. we've got the same thing here. even though we've never had a situation where the sitting president is absolutely refusing to exert it, it's enough like that that i just don't see how president trump is going to prevail in the end based on supreme court precedent. >> joan, i'm going to read it because i think the language of the supreme court is interesting from the 1977 ruling that you just talked about. the privilege is not for the benefit of the president as an individual, but for the benefit of the republic. so that seems like it would be the precedent. joan, do you think this case, this donald trump records case is headed for the supreme court ultimately? >> ultimately, probably, alisyn. i'll tell you why. he's probably going to lose at the court of appeals ultimately because he just doesn't have the legal arguments right now that would over come what judge chuck en wrote this week. it's rea

every administration has lied. every administration has tapped, wired, cheated, so on. this one just had the bad luck to get caught. >> i'm told that i'm on the nixon tapes 26 times. i later found out that he audited my staff. >> by the way, when i was sitting in that witness chair, i felt guilty. it's a very strange feeling sitting there. >> may have been the first one. >> dick cavett was doing things that carson wasn't in ways that carson wasn't. >> i got used as a stick to beat johnny. somebody made the smart-ass remark, we can count on cavett to have somebody from watergate on while johnny has charo. >> but more people liked carson, and cavett could never crack that. >> you're tangled up in your wires there. >> hold it, hold it. >> hold, it hold it. >> hold it. >> hold, it hold it. >> we'll be right back. >> yes. we'll be right back! so you both sleep just right. and it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. so, you can really promise better sleep? yes! you'll know exactly how well you slept, night after night. we

and really the supreme court hasn't weighed in since nixon. there are some foggy issues left to be adjudicated with the assertion of executive privilege. here it wasn't necessarily an easy decision for the biden administration to step in and say, look, we're waiving the privilege as the executive now. we want these records to be turned over because the privilege does maintain attach to the former president once he's out of office. they're arguably are communications involved here that would be covered by the presidential communications privilege, the deliberative process privilege. all these things are issues that, when decided, will have precedential value. meaning they will be taken into account in the future. and so the biden administration wants to make sure that if they waive the privilege now, it's not going to come back and haunt them later do you think the road in their administration when the tables are turned. so there are some real novel issues to be decided here. >> really quickly before we let you go, keith kellogg, who was vice p

the biden administration says it has procured enough vaccines to distribute to all 28 million children ages 5 to 11 in the united states governor nixon was in southern california today, promoting covid-19 vaccinations and booster shots. the governor along with senator alex padilla, we're at a vaccine and flu shot clinic in los angeles. they talked about the state's ongoing efforts to increase vaccination and booster rates. governor newsom also says flu shots are just as important as we head into the winter months. winter is coming. um, winter is here. and as we are want to be reminded and should be reminded. last year we had a challenging winter, particularly down here in southern california. we started to see around this time last year case rates. positivity rates. hospitalization rates icu numbers start to increase this year. just wanna remind people that we want to avoid the twinned emmick that is referred to by some oh, and get that flu shot. according to the state's covid-19 website, more than 55 million doses of covid-19 have been administered right here in california, and just l

giving good advice to a president, and unfortunately for trump, the supreme court has already ruled in nixon cases that it is the current president that gets that deference. it is ironic that the trump folks are trying to argue that waiving the privilege in this instance as the biden administration wants to do is going to somehow upset the balance of power, lead to maybe abuse of overly partisan politics, when the very thing being investigated, january 6th insurrection, is an example of using and abusing the power of the presidency to encourage an insurrection. i think this is probably a losing argument. he hasn't articulated any personal harm. he is putting all the eggs in one basket of saying he as former president has a right to control executive privilege, and that's not going to be right legally. >> because this will be a re-examination of executive privilege, what do you think the potential long lasting effects could be on the privilege that we give to presidents in this country? >> i actually don't think there will be much long lasting effect. that's because this was an extraordinaril