we have former va head colonel robert wilkie. he was in the air force reserve and served in the u.s. navy reserve with joint forces intelligence command. colonel wilkie, thanks for joining us. your thoughts on benjamin hall's story there. how do we get the two marines out of russia? >> the tragedy, is, putin is playing three dimensional chess and biden is playing checkers. look at ukraine. they provided ukraine with meals ready to eat to confront his tanks and planes. president trump sent missiles to take out the tanks and planes. when president biden got into office he reversed back to giving meals ready to eat. putin doesn't feel any pressure from this administration and the hardened kgb colonel he is is he has the measure of this president and the white house. elizabeth: meanwhile the families are heartbroken and their loved ones are not at home. they served our country and this is not happening. i would like to move on to this, sir. "the washington post" are talking about the historically low veterans in congress. 1/5 of cong