camp david? how big is the site? >> 12, forget cabins, president eisenhower's, the presidential. [inaudible] -- they're all named after trees. and there are about 20 total that new york are named that way. new york >> let's talk a little bit about the staff at camp david. you are the commander. what is the size of the military staff at camp david? what kinds of jobs to they perform? >> well, over 200 sailors and marines. there were five civil engineer officers. we had one chaplain. we had two marine officers, they were in a security company. you put all the sailors and marines together and staff, we all sort of white house communication team. they were in charge of communication that was coming out of the main command downtown. >> can you tell us a little bit about how camp david has changed over the years? it was very rustic when fdr first came to camp david. there were the noticeable additions to the complex. so, now there is a chocolate camp david. talk about the buildings in the activities. h

david? david: that is upsetting to learn. david, thank you very much. meanwhile health officials across the country are calling out the lack of monoclonal antibodies and other therapeutics as omicron surges. gerri willis is here with more. a lot of hair pulling going on, gerri. a lot of health officials want the stuff and they say the shelves are empty. reporter: rite. you got that right, david. what we find is that americans are struggling to get treatments and to get covid tests amid shortages. one florida official is accusing the biden administration of holding back treatments from his state. florida's surgeon general, joseph ledapo the federal government that is quote, actively preventing the active distribution of monoclonal antibodies treatments in the u.s. by pausing shipments of the covid-19 treatments manufactured by two major drug companies. texas officials are saying they're running out of monoclonal antibodies treatments and vermont officials, they say the treatment is scarce too. the monoclonal drugs are used by people with preexisting cond

david: ok. chris: and is under massive redevelopment, and should reopen as what i think will be the best luxury hotel in new york in 2023 with 400 rooms in the same amount of high-end luxury apartments. david: so there is another rumor going around about another waldorf-astoria. it is rumored in washington, d.c. where we are now. chris: [laughs] david: the trump hotel, which has had its challenges and has reportedly been sold to somebody, and you, hilton, will manage it as a waldorf-astoria. can you comment on that? chris: i read that same rumor, but i can't comment on it. david: ok. chris: i have a strict rule. i will comment when something is done. david: ok. chris: the rumors are justified in the since there is a lot of work and discussion going on, but nothing is done. david: there is a new phenomenon that's not that new, airbnb. chris: what is that? david: when it came along, the hotel industry shrugged it off, but is it a real competitor and will you be in that business? chris: i do not th

david: and after that? chris: after that i went to harvard business school and got my mba and after that, went into consulting for a few years. david: but you spent a lot of time in the food world. you were, before pepsi -- or after pepsi, you were at kraft. is that right? chris: that's right. david: so was there something about food that really appealed to you? chris: i would say i love being in consumer industries. for me, what i really find energizing is having a tangible product that i can see, touch, feel, etc. and also one that, you know, people can relate to. when i say, you know, i work at pepsi, or i work at kraft, or i work at mcdonald's, immediately, you can always have a conversation with people. the fun thing for me in my current job, no matter where i am in the world, people have an opinion about mcdonald's and want to talk to you about mcdonald's. it makes the job fun. david: you came here in what year? chris: i was here in 2015. david: ok, and then you rose up pretty quickly to became the he

david: let's talk about this. you are an angel investor, you are doing really well with people coming to you with deals. while you might miss one or two, basically you are doing quite well. why did you join a firm called greylock, a venture capital firm, and why did you need to join a venture-capital firm when you already your own venture capitalist? why would you join greylock? reid: not surprising, i think in networks as platforms. one of the things i think a small number of very elite venture-capital firms within silicon valley and other places do is create a network. and i was originally thinking of building my own and then david and others who were general partners at greylock came and said, we are in the process of moving the firm from boston to silicon valley, where it is a rebirth of the firm, which has a great set of investors and pedigree and culture and learnings and all these things that will be very helpful. but also this idea of network amplifier for venture capital. we love it, we would love to do i

[laughter] david: right. so what is it you would like to do when you are alive after you are off the court? would you like to teach again? would you like to write? would you just like to take life easy? what would you like to do? justice breyer: it's hard to take life easy. we will see. david: so you have not thought about what you might want to do? justice breyer: eh, it goes through my mind. david: president biden has put together a commission that is going to look at the court, and you have already articulated your view that you do not think expanding the size of the court is a wonderful idea. i think you have said that. justice breyer: what i have said is that they had better be careful about, because two can play that game. what is worrying me -- and i tried to explain to people in the book the extent to which politics is relevant or not relevant or present or not present and in what form in the work of our court. and what worries me is people will think we are junior league politicians. and if they thin

david. after retirement thousand ten, michael jordan private industry is a chief executive officer of the building information technology company headquartered in his hometown of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. in october 2017, he published his first book inside camp david the private world of the presidential retreat. mike travels often speaking about the book has been covered by the wall street journal, the today show c-span and many other print radio television outlets. after our conversation, mike will be taking questions from our live audience. please be your questions for mike and the chat we will get to as many as possible welcome to white house history live mike. >> wonderful to be here. it's an honor to serve the nation. [inaudible] >> only start from the beginning, your story with camp david. tell us about how you were selected as commander of camp david, what that process was likely. >> camp david is actually a navy command naval support facility and a town nearby. the navy has operated

david: ok. chris: the rumors are justified in the sense that there is a lot of work and discussion going on, but nothing is done. david: there is a new phenomenon that's not that new, airbnb. chris: what is that? david: when it came along, the hotel industry shrugged it off, but is it a real competitor and will you be in that business? chris: i do not think it is a real competitor to us. so if you think about what we do, it is something different than what they do. i think we co-exist with them quite well. we deliver a high quality, consistent product with the amenities wrapped in service with all the technology, loyalty, and people pay us generally a big premium for that, because they want that level of consistent high-quality experience. what they do is something different. what they are doing is, by definition, cannot have the consistency, and the product, and the amenities that are tailored fit, because it is different. it does not mean it is bad. it just means it is satisfying different tri

thank you, david. david: you too. neil: we've been following the same thing you've been following, david, third day up in a row after three down days

david: i see. justice breyer: and then you try to see, and that is what i learned in the senate, you try to see where is there common ground. and is there common ground enough that you can work with it? ♪ david: you talk about the peril of politics. that's one of the main points. you do not want the court to be seen as political. yet the court can't control that because you have members of congress who are political and -- david: let's go back to your earlier life. i work on capitol hill and you worked briefly on capitol hill. you were a harvard law professor. i'm curious, when you go to harvard law school and you are at the top of your class, when you start harvard law school, there is always an intimidation factor. you have 600 people. you have to figure out if you are going to be good or not. when did you realize you were good at law school things, taking exams? did you know right away you're going to be a great law school student, and therefore, potentially become a law school professor? or w

david: ok. chris: the rumors are justified in the since there is a lot of work and discussion going on, but nothing is done. david: there is a new phenomenon that's not that new, airbnb. chris: what is that? david: when it came along, the industry shrugged it off, but is it a real competitor and will you be in that business? chris: i do not think it is a real competitor to us. so, if you think about what we do, it is something different than what they do. i think we co-exist with them quite well. we deliver a high quality, consistent product with the amenities wrapped in service with all the technology, loyalty, and people pay us generally a big premium for that, because they want that level of consistent high-quality experience. what they do is something different. what they are doing by definition can't have the consistency and the product and the amenities that are tailored fit, because it is different. it does not mean it is bad, it just means satisfying something different. if you look at t

david: your mother was a survivor of auschwitz? diane: yes. david: how did she survive auschwitz? she weighed 59 pounds when she came out. diane: 49. how do you survive? i don't know. i don't know. very, very, very few people survived. she survived. she was 22. she got arrested, she was 21. she stayed 14 months and she really got arrested very late, may 1944, but she worked while she was there, at a factory. when you were working, they won't kill you, so that is the first thing, and then after that, there was the famous death march and they went and walked to another camp. a lot of people died on the march. she thought she was going to die on the march. she didn't. after that, as they were losing the war, they pushed back more and then she ended up in another camp, and then one day, the germans had gone and the russians came and raped every girl, then after that, the americans arrived. david: your mother had a tattoo at auschwitz. diane: two. david: two. did you ever ask what it was? diane: everybody asked. then she had it removed. she had one number, then crossed in another numbe

david: your mother was a survivor of auschwitz? diane: yes. david: how did she survive? she weighed 59 pounds when she came out. diane: 49. how do you survive? i don't know. i don't know. very few people survived. she was 22. she got arrested, she was 21. she stated 14 months -- stayed 14 months, and she really got arrested very late, may 1944, but she worked while she was there, at a factory. when you were working, they wouldn't kill you, so that is the first thing, and then after that, there was the famous death march and they went and walked to another camp. a lot of people died on the march. she thought she was going to die on the march. she didn't. after that, as they were losing the war, they pushed back more and then she ended up in another camp, and then one day, the germans had gone and the russians came and raped every girl, then after that, the americans arrived. david: your mother had a tattoo at auschwitz. diane: two. david: did you ever ask what it was? diane: everybody asked. she had one number, then crossed and another number. for me, it was an odd becaus

david: you became very famous. there was a story that they were going to put gerald ford on the cover, but they went with you. diane: yes. it was march. march is usually when they want subscription renewals, and so they would think that maybe i would be a more attractive woman on the cover. diane: ok. david: ok. let's go back. you grew up in what country? diane: belgium. david: your mother was a survivor of auschwitz? diane: yes. david: she weighed 59 pounds when she came out. diane: 49. how do you survive? i don't know. i don't know. very few people survived. she was 22. she got arrested, she was 21. she stated 14 months and she really got arrested very late, may 1944, but she worked while she was there, at a factory. when you were working, they won't kill you, so that is the first thing, and then after that, there was the famous death march and they went and walked to another camp. a lot of people died on the march. she thought she was going to die on the march. she didn't. after that, as they were losing the war

david: i see. justice beyer: and then you try to see, and that is what i learned in the senate, you try to see where is there common ground. and is there common ground enough that you can work with it? ♪ david: you talk about the peril of politics. that's one of the main points. you do not want the court to be seen as political. yet the court can't control that because you have congress who are political and lots of things that are very political. for example, when you have confirmations these days, it's very political it seems. and when you are confirmed, it was not that political. but today, you have these votes that are very narrow and the democrats are voting for the democratic nominee and republicans are voting for the republican president's nominee. how do you think you can avoid politics when you have the rest of the country looking at the court in such a political way? justice breyer: i feel pretty strongly that senators will ask the questions and vote in ways that they believe their cons

david: so how do you recruit? >> we try and leverage cadet programs, explorer programs, get into the colleges, universities, kind of educate them that, while there is a narrative out there it doesn't, it doesn't reflect the good work that the men and women of police work in massachusetts do every day. david: well, no, the narrative is flat-out wrong in many cases and it's propagandized for political purposes by a lot of these groups but are you worried you may have lost enough police officers so that the citizens are at risk? >> no, i don't believe that. i think now more than ever as police reform rolls across the country we need the best people we can hire, the best qualified people, the best educated people. i don't think we're in a crisis mode where the public safety is at risk. we will continue to be vigilant to hire the best people to fill those positions. david: you know, a lot of these groups that are in to the defund police movement have gone way far ahead, much further than where the population is, even w

david: there it is. this book is an interesting book in the sense that it came from a series of lectures you gave named after somebody who was an ideological i would say opponent of some of your views. that was justice scalia. were you a friend of his even though you had ideological differences? >> i think so. we would debate those differences. i thought we had a terrific debate. in lubbock, texas, there were several thousand students. they had never seen a supreme court justice. we talked about our differences. you know, i say, if i had your theory, my goodness, don't you think -- do you think george washington knew about the internet or free speech? and scalia would say, i knew that. good point. then he would say, i'm not saying my theory is perfect. he would say, you know, the two hunters are hunting bears and one is putting on his tennis shoes, where you going? he says, a bear is coming. you can't outrun the bear. he says yeah, but i can outrun you. [laughter] that was his view of my way of deciding

. >> david isn't even in the army. his father tells him to take lunch to his brothers, who are fighting in saul's army. and this is the picture that we get painted of the boy david, right? this punky little kid who is like, nobody's going to talk to my god like that, right? and everyone else is like, calm down, man. you don't know what you're doing. but he's willing to die to protect the honor of god. >> goliath doesn't believe his eyes. he's like, are you mocking me? what is this supposed to be? this is not a contest. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> throughout the history of israel, we see this theme of the remnant that god chooses to do his greatest work through the leftovers, through the disadvantaged. and david's defeat of goliath was proof to this struggling, desperate people that the god who had established them was still with them. it elevated them as a nation. it allowed them to take pride in who they were as a people. >> this young david, when he kills goliath, he got rewarded by king saul by being appointed as the general of

, camp david? was it an executive order, was it legislation or did he just have someone go out with lumber and paint and redo the signs? >> i like the second explanation best, but i don't know. i imagine there must've been something signed to change the name from the shangri-la moniker to camp david. we'll have to check the archives together, colleen. >> right. karen asks, when a president chooses not to visit camp david very often, how does that change staffing and operations? >> staffing operations don't change because you're always ready, or your mission is to be always be ready to receive. and some presidents have let camp david be used by guests. some presidents have allowed staff to use it. but if no one's there, you're just maintaining the place and taking care of it. and that can be a morale issue. if no one visits. and that's a lot of time not to do your job, per se. so you have to practice at times. and then some weekends, some presidents, it becomes quite an increase in up tempo or opera

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david asman in for neil cavuto. david, take it away. david: ashley, good to see you, welcome to "cavuto: coast to coast." i'm david asman in for neil cavuto. happening this hour president biden speaking with a group of governors right now as omicron surges all over the country. he admits he has regrets how it has been handled. we have the latest on that. the administration trying to build back up from the build back better bust. will the president try to push this megaspending plan through by executive order? a mass migration is happening. we're not just talking about the southern border. new census data showing people fleeing blue states for red states. the chief financial officer of florida is here to discuss that. but first, president biden joining a big meeting between governors and his covid response team to lay out plans to deal with the rapid spread of the omicron strain. steve harrigan live in atlanta with the very latest. hi, steve.port david, the press able to see the start of the meeting president biden with white house covid

david: ok. diane: it started from these little sweaters that ballerinas wear, you know, when they get cold. it is like a kimono, right? it is like a japanese kimono, but very tight, and because it was jersey, you wrap it very tight. that was the difference. it is just a wrap dress. it was printed because i was in this print factory. first, it was a wrap top with a skirt. and it did really well. then i said, i have got to turn it into a dress. then it became a dress. and before i knew, at the age of 26, i was making 25,000 wrap dresses a week. david: and you became very famous. diane: and i became very famous. david: there was a story that they were goingerald ford on the cover, but they went with you. diane: for winning his primary. yes, but that i discovered it was the month of march. and the month of march is usually when they want subscription renewals, and so they would think that maybe i would be -- david: a more attractive woman on the cover -- diane: -- would be a more attractive woman on

david, thank you so much. david: yep. charles: all right, folks, good afternoon, everyone, i'm charles payne this is "making money. breaking right now the markets are in broad retreat as investors grapple with the new threat of lockdowns, reaction to the spreading omni cron variant. jay powell, 3.0. bigger longer term issue. run away inflation. joe manchin making it official, he is no on build back better. this is a bombshell. i've been saying for a bombshell

david asman in for neil today. david, take it away. david: we do hang on, don't we ashley. good to see you my friend. ashley: we do. david: hank on down there in florida. i'm david asman in for neil cavuto own "coast to coast." the president biden ringing the year into wilmington, he closes out the year with another kind of messy message if you can say that. the president tweeting about the best economic record in 50 years. meanwhile inflation is running rampant. a lot of americans are concerned about that. we have a top economist to break down what is true and what is about the state of our economy. the nightmares of travel drudge on for the 7th straight day. we have a report what you need to do before planning a trip to the airport. the ball getting ready to drop in new york city, closing out 2021, thank goodness, and mayor bill de blasio's tenure. thank goodness to that as well. eric adams is set to take office with the city realing from covid, crime and mandates. we have the man who ran against adams, curtis sliwa is here a little later this hour. you don't want to miss

david? david: a lot of people do. good to see you rich edson, thank you very much the holiday travel nightmare is not letting up. hundreds of more flights canceled today on top of thousands grounded since christmas eve. mike tobin live at chicago's very busy o'hare airport. mike. reporter: david, airlines at times like this try to go dynamic to solve the problems. one industry spokesman told me they will start moving people around to cover the holes in the staffing line-up. they have the advantage of using planes to do that. so things are not really back to normal or business as usual but one spokesman tells me they're hoping they're making a step in that direction. you see the tsa line behind me here at o'hare international airport. frankly that does look like business as usual. in terms of backups at o'hare this is nothing. if you look to check-in at american airlines, you can see the ability to close part of the check-in and consolidate everything as things start to get back to normal to some extent. this particula

[laughs] david: ok. if the president of united states called you and said, you are running a gigantic company and have done a terrific job. i need some more women leaders in government. why don't you come be secretary of something important? what would you say? julie: i would say, i am honored to be asked, but i have really important work to do in the private sector. david: you wouldn't go right now? julie: that is not my current aspiration. david: somebody who is watching this would say, this person has an incredible professional life. rose up to be partner at cravath. now she is ceo of this gigantic company. can you cite something that did not work out in your professional life, so people can feel you are not just a superhuman and make people feel good they can see somebody made a mistake? do you have mistakes you made or failures you can talk about? julie: you know, people ask that question as if the only challenge is at work. and for me, work has been a great place. i have had a lot of success, and i

david: i see. justice breyer: and then you try to see, and that is what i learned in the senate, you try to see where is there common ground. and is there common ground enough that you can work with it? ♪ david: you talk about the peril of politics. that's one of the main points. you do not want the court to be seen as political. yet the court can't control that because you have members of congress who are political and lots of things that are very political. for example, when you have confirmations these days, it's very political, it seems. and when you were confirmed, it was not that political. but today, you have these votes that are very narrow and the democrats are always voting for the democratic nominee and republicans are voting for the republican president's nominee. how do you think you can avoid politics when you have the rest of the country looking at the court in such a political way? justice breyer: i feel pretty strongly that senators will ask the questions and vote in ways that th

[laughs] david: ok. so if the president of united states called you and said, you're running a gigantic company. you've done a terrific job. i need some more women leaders in my government. why don't you come be secretary of something important? what would you say? julie: i would say, i'm honored to be asked, but i have really important work to do in the private sector. david: ok, so you wouldn't go in right now? julie: that is not my current aspiration. david: somebody who is watching this would say, this person has an incredible professional life. rose up to be partner at cravath. now she is ceo of this gigantic company. can you cite something that didn't work out in your professional life so that people can feel you're not just a superhuman and then make people feel good they can see somebody made a mistake? do you have any mistakes you've made or failures you can talk about? julie: you know, people ask that question as if the only challenge is at work. and for me, work has been a great place. i've ha

david? david: hillary vaughn, thank you very much. there is a radical agenda to kill capitalism and it is not leaving with omarova with the radical professor who with drew her nomination. the problem is not professor omarova. the problem is the administration who put up a nominee to move the lifeblood of capitalism for private banks into the hands of government. that is professor omarova wanted to do. that would destroy private enterprise in america. will the administration continue to pursue its anticapitalist agenda with or without this nominee? joining me former economic advisor to president trump, freedom works economist steve moore. steve, thanks for being here. do we know who actually put up this nomination? >> we're trying to figure that out, david, and i think you really hammered it. this really isn't about omarova. obviously she had pretty crazy ideas way outside the mainstream of most americans but it was really more, this tells much more about this administration, that they would actually put someone like that up for nomina

david: and how did the company do? noubar: the company failed to fail and succeeded eventually in becoming the largest instrument company in the biotech field at the time, which was the 1995 to late 1997 timeframe. we invented a number of new technologies that could be used to study and create equipment. -- and create proteins. about 900 other people. it was a public company for a number of years. lots of ups and downs. for the period, it was ultimately a successful venture. david: you sold it to perkinelmer? noubar: yes. david: you cashed out, got a lot of money for a young person. did you say, i'm going to retire now or just go teach? or just relax, what did you decide to do? noubar: it was complicated because along the way i had cofounded, co-started a number of other companies. between 1994 and 1997, four other companies. each of them went public, three of them got sold. it was worse than just doing one thing and calling it a day. because i had also sampled doing multiple things, and instead -- so i did not conside

david: four grandchildren. so what do you do for rest and relaxation, spend time with your children and grandchildren? phebe: that is joyful, but i would not call it restful or relaxing. three toddlers and one newborn is hardly relaxing. [laughs] but my husband and i walk a lot, hike a lot, and we talk a lot. he is finishing his doctorate at princeton theological seminary in ethics, and so i find those kinds of conversations really stimulating and interesting. they are a respite for me, but they are also a lot of mental gymnastics to try to keep up. david: other people have said it seems, in congress, it would seem having a spouse getting a degree from princeton seminary is very spiritual, presumably, and you are in the aerospace defense business. does anyone say that seems unusual? phebe: i think it is unusual, but when you are in leadership positions, it is important to look at all of your decisions through a moral prism, irrespective of the industry that you are in, and to make sure that you are doing the ri

david: are you worried about this? sen. manchin: i'm the chairman right now of a committee which i enjoy very much. i have been ranking before which on the committee, which is the minority part. lisa murkowski, one of my great friends and dear partner, and we worked really well together. but it is much better off when you can control the agenda. you can't do anything about it. i have always said that the best politics is good government. today, that is not what we are practicing. today, it's not about -- the republicans are missing a golden opportunity not to jump on the infrastructure bill. and be overwhelmingly bipartisan. and taking credit. i've seen people take credit of good legislation that voted against it. david: i can't believe that happens in washington. [laughter] ♪ david: so is this making you more popular in west virginia or less popular? sen. manchin: it depends on what corner of town you go to. david: do you go back? sen. manchin: i go back all the time. i love my state. i was born and raised in a mining to

. >> david: yeah. the frigid cold keeps the riffraff out of the city, for sure. >> anthony: fred morin and david mcmillan. restaurateurs, chefs at the legendary joe beef, bon vivants, raconteurs, historians of their beloved great white north. princes of hospitality. and what do men like this do for fun when the rivers turn to ice three-feet thick? when testicles shrink and most of us scurry for warmth and shelter? if they were like so many other canadians, they would go ice fishing on the st. lawrence river. >> david: the cabin fever induces in the québécois family. because we are confined, perhaps, to spend so much time indoors, a lot of the families love to do, you know, activities together like this. go to the cottage. go ice fishing. you know, it, like, gets you out of the house. and it's very much a family thing. >> anthony: like many of their ilk, they'd seek one of the temporary small towns of sled-borne cabins, drill a hole in the ice, and wait. but these are not normal men. so is quebec bett

[laughter] david: ok. justice breyer: einstein was right. [laughter] david: einstein was right. you have said you don't want to die on the court and nobody would want you to. [laughter] justice breyer: einstein is coming back. [laughter] david: what would you like to do after you are off the court? would you like to teach again? would you like to write? would you like to take life easy? what would you like to do? justice breyer: it's hard to take life easy. we will see. david: you have not thought about what you would like to do? justice breyer: eh, it goes through my mind. david: president biden has put together a commission to look at the court and you have articulated your view that you do not think expanding the size of the court is a wonderful idea. justice breyer: what i said is they better be careful about that because to complain that game. what is worrying me -- and i tried to explain in the book the extent to which politics is relevant or not relevant or present or not present and in what form -- and what worries me is people will think we are junior league politicians

david: absolutely. let me start with why the most recent cases with jesse when he came out with this initial charges everyone he was absolutely correct he was the victim here even though the details did not square with each other we found out why of course later on. it's great to find the truth when it appears. it would have been much harder i think to come to the truth when he first announced his case about a year ago, right? >> absolutely and let me say truth to earth will rise again. what makes me so sad about the jussie smollett case is a young man lives in a time he feels he has to do those types of things to gain attention. that is very sad. of course we have consequences and we must pay for our actions. that is were justice has been. it's still a tragedy to me and i want young people all over to learn, you do not have to do theatrical things to get attention. just try to do what is right. i'm a little sad, mixed emotions. we do have to pay for our consequences which is what he has learned, sadly.

david: i often ask how they stay there. you don't feel inadequate being the second wealthiest man, do you? the most senior person in the u.s. military is always the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. the 20th person to hold that is general mark milley. he was appointed by president trump and continue to serve under president biden. i had a chance at the national archives to sit down with general milley to discuss a wide range of civilian and military issues the chairman now faces. so this is where our constitution, the original copy, is stored and it is over there. what does the con -- conversation mean to u.s. the chairman of the chiefs of staff? >> for us and all of us in uniform, we swear an oath and that is to the constitution and we are sworn to protect and support and defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic. we don't take an oath to an individual, a king, queen, tribe or any of that, we take an oath to the idea of america and that is expressed in the documents you see here, the declaration of independen

david: record low valuations. i cannot remember the price being like this, too, so that would obviously be a record low. to help with the extent of all of this, stephen engle, our chief north asia correspondent is in our studio to put everything together for us. we are going to start with alibaba. stephen: we have to talk about didi. we've been talking about the valuation structure, and this morning's story was the sec saying they are finalizing rules as mandated by congress to set out the criteria for delisting of companies that do not comply with accounting and transparency rules that the sec has, and even gary gensler had mentioned chinese and hong kong companies in particular are the ones that have not been complying, so you kind of connect the dots and ask if this will lead to an avalanche of chinese delisting in the united states -- well, lo and behold, we just got news that didi is filing for delisting in the united states while simultaneously also going to apply for a listing here in hong kong. this is wha