and the following day june 26, there will be another meeting between pope and edwin stanton, meet in private chambers in the war department, stanton will finally reveal there's a fiasco between jackson and fremont stanton conceives in this meeting that we can and himself are to blame for all that developed and come across from the fallout of the most recent campaign in the shenandoah valley. stanton says we make mistakes in the following ways. first, we played political patrons in command of his armies, shouldn't have done that. we also shouldn't have tried to regulate movement from washington d.c. after these commands were defeated across public, stanton and lincoln finally given to what secretary of the treasury has been are going about four weeks what they have been arguing, what he's been arguing is these two armies in the valley and urban mcdowell's army need to be united under one commander following the defeat, cross keys of port republic lincoln and stan given, the genesis for lincoln's trip to west point, the genesis stanton pope east. testing reveals an objective for the ne

and he has his first interview that day with secretary of war edwin stanton. he goes, he sits with stanton, and there they sit, and they sit, and they look at each other, and they size each other up. they have some very small chitchat about light hearted topics and that's it. stanton shares no reason to pope one day in dc why he's been called there. there's a reason for it. stanton cannot say anything to pope until lincoln gets back to washington, d.c. you see, lincoln had left for west point on june the 23rd. he kept his departure a secret from those in washington, d.c. and a secret from the press. he's heading up to west point to meet with general winfield scott to, quote, ask my views in writing as to further dpis positions to be made. lincoln is traveling to west point to meet with winfield scott to ask scott if pope is capable of commanding several armies in the eastern theatre of the war. sounds like lincoln's placing a lot of confidence in pope, and that perhaps pope's braggadocios has something to back it up with. scott nor lincoln specifically mention

when it comes down to the military proclamation, many believe general stanton -- edwin stanton had dictated a large portion of the military proclamation and there's accounts that say that lincoln had reviewed that military proclamation before pope made it public. those same sources point that to general orders 5, 7, and 11 as well that pope is not necessarily 100% of the mastermind behind the original orders. i think the truth lies in between. certainly he's not issuing them without somebody knowing their context, whether that be stanton, lincoln or hallic at the very least. i would say the war department and lincoln administration has input on those orders. >> last question. >> ben keller from fredericksburg. general lee had nothing but contempt for pope. was that well founded? >> yeah, 100% and it's a result of the military proclamation. when that military proclamation comes out, that leaves robert e. lee to make the famous statement, labelling pope a miskreernt and it's at that moment, many historians will argue that pope's command becomes lee's objective. ; that lee may have had other p

in late august of 1862 as manasis is playing out in virginia, edwin stanton are enduring desperate pleas from the governor of minnesota, a desperate war out there known as the sioux uprising. they need help. lincoln and stanton focusing all their energies on virginia, john hayes one of lincoln's private secretaries who had gone out there months earlier goes out and tells lincoln this war is growing more extensive out there. they need help. now if pope has lost confidence of lincoln and stanton, if he is being banished out west, why would you send someone that is so inept, that was defeated at second manasis to go be in charge and carry out a war by themselves in minnesota? look where mclelland goes. he goes back to new jersey, not a lot going there, but send this guy to another theater of the war that's been forgotten about, and pope thrives once again. he handles the sioux war, the dakota war of 1862 with movements of the campaign began, did you know grant calls pope east to congratulate him for everything he's doing and to have pope counsel grant on how to deal with the situation in th

and late august of 1962, as they were playing out of virginia, abraham lincoln and edwin stanton are ignoring desperate pleas for help from the governor of minnesota. there is a serious serious war waging out there, an uprising of the dakota war of 1862. they need help and lincoln and stanton had been focusing all of their energies on virginia and john hay one of lincoln's private secretaries and got out there months earlier he comes back and tells lincoln that this war is growing more extensive other than they need help. now if pope had lost confidence in lincoln, and instead in and he's being banished out was would you send someone that is so inept that was defeated the second to go to be in charge and carry out a war by themselves in minnesota. where would we call ago, he would back to new jersey, not a whole lot going on there. in this guide went to another theater of the war that is been forgotten about an pope thrives once again any handles the war the dakota war of 1862 with brilliance in a continue to the star rise through 1863 into 1864 and he continues to impress all of his

and he has his first interview that day with secretary of war edwin stanton. he goes and sits with stanton, and there they sit, and they sit and they look at each other and they it size each other up. they have some very faint chitchat about light hearted topics and that's it. stanton shares no reason to pope one day after being in d.c. why he's been called there. there's a reason for it. stanton cannot say anything to pope until lincoln gets back to washington, d.c. you see lincoln had left for west point on june 23rd 37 he kept his departure a secret from those in washington, d.c. and a secret from the press. he's heading up to west point to meet with general scott, to quote, ask my views in writing as further dispositions to be made. lincoln is traveling to west point to meet with scott to ask scott if pope is capable of commanding several armies in the eastern world. sounds like lincoln is placing a lot of confidence in pope. and perhaps pope has something to back it up with. although nor scott nor lincoln mentioned pope in this conversation, in the suitab