but lindsey graham is also -- >> sean: ari. ari, i love you, but they are creating a one-time new rule to make this happen. >> that was my second point that i was making there. we have traditionally raised the debt limit as a part of reconciliation, but it also shows, sean, a more fundamental issue. it is meaningless. no limit on the debt. we have a choice between default and spending. no one has gone after the spending program, new attacks but medicare, social security, meaningfully cutting spending, nobody in either party, really. the debt limit is obscure, an excuse to get into the last-minute over default. it serves no practical purpose anymore. it never limits the debt. >> sean: in reality, the government never shuts down either. not essential services, what have you. social security checks go out. the military stays working. we don't shut down the government and then a bunch of government employees get a vacation and then they get voted back pay. that's what almost always happens. this is my view of mitch mcconnell, in my

that's not lindsey graham saying that. that's the congressional budget office that biden said was the gold standard. it is the gold standard. when you do away with the gimmicks, it costs $4.9 trillion and adds three trillion to the deficit. so they're in a box. if you do away with the gimmicks, the bill cost $5 trillion, $3 trillion to the deficit. if you use the gimmicks, joe manchin won't vote for it. so the cbo score is devastating to build back better. it's the true cost, $5 trillion. the effect on the deficit is $3 trillion and there's in way they can make up $3 trillion without cutting the government or raising taxes. i think it's dead because of the cbo number. >> martha: thanks, senator graham. always great to have you on. >> thank you. >> martha: this is a opinion saying that biden should not run again and he should say hi won't. that's in "the new york times" op-ed page. mercedes schlapp and ari fleischer and juan williams. we'll be right back. >> the president has every intention of running for re-election. vete

lindsey graham said it's like pouring gasoline on it. joining us now, south carolina senator lindsey graham. first of all, i was mad at you over the infrastructure bill, i'm not as mad as i was, so we don't always agree but you rightly demanded no accounting gimmicks, you rightly demanded it be scored accurately, the democrats always said the cbo is the gold standard and when you get to the real numbers, 5.1 trillion, 3 trillion to the deficit. we been lied to the whole time. >> so what did i do? i asked the cbo to look at the bill to see if it had budget gimmicks and that's what joe manchin asked in november last month and what did cbo tell us? if the 17 program stay in place and will never go away, it's not 1.75. you spend that much money over ten years the way the bill was constructed, the deficit goes from 360 billion to 3 trillion. so it's alive. so what she said about me is a lie. the bill on the floor is a lie. the bill on the floor and set up to because 1.75 trillion based on a lie. it's a lie that these programs will go away. yo

i'm joined in a short moment by lindsey graham. he has championed the rights of the unborn in congress for decades. now in his first interview on this since the supreme court took up the largest abortion case in decades, we're going to speak with him next. >> i think with all of my heart and soul that america needs to get out of this club, that america needs to come to the aid of a baby who is 20 weeks in to the birthing process. we should stand united and stop this practice. veteran homeowners. if you haven't refinanced yet, get in on record low rates now. the newday two and a quarter refi is the lowest rate in newday's history. two and a quarter percent. just 2.48 apr. just one call, and you can save thousands every year. there's no money out of pocket and no up front fees. the newday two and a quarter refi. at these rates, you may never need to refinance again. >> martha: breaking right now. the update on the shooting death of jacqueline avant, the wife of clarence avant. let's listen in. >> i'd like to walk you through the info

but lindsey graham is also -- >> sean: ari. ari, i love you, but they are creating a one-time a new rule to make this happen. >> that was my second point that i was making there. we have traditionally raise the debt limit as a part of reconciliation, but it also shows, sean, a more fundamental issue. it is meaningless. no limit on the debt. we have a choice between -- no one has gone after the spending program, new attacks but medicare, social security, meaningfully cutting spending, nobody in either party, really. the debt limit is obscure, an excuse to get into the last-minute over default. it serves no practical purpose anymore. it never limits the debt. >> sean: in reality, government never shuts down either. not essential services, what have you. social security checks go out. the military stays working. we don't shut down the government and then a bunch of government employees -- then they get voted back pay. that's what almost always happens. this is my mitch mcconnell, and my view, it shouldn't be the majority leader an

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senator lindsey graham saying this is a one-two punch to build back better. he was was bonding to inflation -- he was responding to the inflation printed america. lisa: the one-two punch might just be that democrats can't get on the same page on anything. the fact that we are still talking about salt deductions, capital gains taxation, how much this gets applied, this tells you what you need to know for 2021 passage. jonathan: it is all in the sentence there for senator lindsay graham, a republican senator invoking the words of, cap. -- of a democrat. lisa: inflation is going to be probably one of, if not the key debate issue when we head into the 2022 midterms. jonathan: emily wilkins joins us of bloomberg government and washington, d.c. the inflation print is still shaping the conversation, isn't it? emily: absolutely. right now, everything focuses on send her joe manchin and kiersten's -- on senator joe manchin and, to a lesser extent, kyrsten sinema. everyone knows it. you saw senator lindsey graham saying he requested the report after joe manchin said th

seen lindsey graham come would've love that moment because it was addressing down. crapo was chair of finance took it up and move the jurisdiction to finance and they were able to get it passed and sherrod brown strong support so a big thank you to those colleagues who worked very admirably, this happen. >> last sort of question maybe. feel free to do -- one to the things that crossed my mind with the biden administration adopting this counter kleptocracy anticorruption agenda so closely so strongly that it sometimes in d.c. and partly because once i take something of the other side decides they want to start -- >> you are for its i have to be against it. >> exactly. it is been this remarkable bipartisan, you talked about all the tetchy domestic political issues, that corruption can exacerbate and, of course, corruption is a first political insult you want to fling at an opponent. given how corruption can be and is around the world it is amazing how bipartisan this sort of anti-kleptocracy effort has been so far in the congress. [inaudible] >> everyone has been work

lindsey graham said it's likee pouring gasoline on it. joining us now, south carolina senator lindsey first of all, i was mad at you over the infrastructure bill i'm not as mad as i was, so we don't always agree but you rightly demanded no accounting gimmicks, you rightly demanded it be scored accurately, the democrats always said the cbo is the gold standard and when you get to the real numbers 5.1 trillion, 3 trillion to the deficit. we've been lied to the whole time. >> so what did i do? i asked the cbo to look at the bill to see if it had budgetet gimmicks and that's what joe manchin asked i last month and what did cbo tel if the 17 programs stay in plac and will never go away, it's no you spend that much money over ten years the way the bill was constructed, the deficit goes from 360 billion to 3 trillion. so it's alive. so what she said about me is a lie. the bill on the floor is a lie. the bill on the floor and set up to because 1.75 trillion based on a lie.th it's a lie that these programs will go away. if you tell the truth about

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chris: we'll speak with lindsey graham, top republican on the senate budget committee. >>> plus, a supreme court ruling keeps in place a texas ban on most abortions. we'll ask our sunday panel what it signals for roe v. wade ahead of the midterms. >>> and our power player of the week, the doctor hoping to create an unlimited supply of life-saving organs. all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ chris: and hello again from fox news in washington. we begin with breaking news. emergency crews are searching for survivors and digging through the destruction after a trail of deadly tornadoes hit six states, the largest and most devastating tearing across more than 200 miles with kentucky bearing the brunt. the governor there saying at least 70 are dead, but that number could grow to more than 100. let's bring in steve harrigan live on the ground in mayfield, kentucky, with the latest. >> reporter: ordinarily when you see the aftermath of a tornado, you can see the past. one street gets hit, maybe the next street over does not get hit. that is not the case in this town where the destruction is

senator lindsey graham, thanks for being on justice. merry christmas. we told you last week about kids being vaxxed without their parents' consent. next we delve into another outrageous story every parent needs to hear. the reality of how the border crisis is impacting your child classroom right h >> i describe the border as chaos. >> this is the largest surge of migrants i have seen in my career. judge jeanine: the borderers in absolute chaos. , the influx of unaccompanied minors is impacting your child's classroom. jessica vaughn, thank you for being with us. i understand in addition to the alarm by the border authorities, that we have this year a jump unaccompanied children that's enormous. this year fiscal year 2021. unaccompanied children, single minors, 146,000 compared to last year it was 33,000. jessica, what is the impact of this alarming number of children and minors on our education system here in the united states? so well the effect on the schools is huge. it's one of the least talked about aspects of this border crisis ban one that affects

senator lindsey graham, thanks for being on justice. merry christmas. we told you last week about kids being vaxxed without their parents' consent. next we delve into another outrageous story every parent needs to hear. the reality of how the border crisis is impacting your child classroom right here in the u.s. stay with us. gives him a tight seal. to help block out food particles. so he can enjoy the game. super poligrip. >> i describe the border as chaos. >> this is the largest surge of migrants i have seen in my career. judge jeanine: the borderers in absolute chaos. , the influx of unaccompanied minors is impacting your child's classroom. jessica vaughn, thank you for being with us. i understand in addition to the alarm by the border authorities, that we have this year a jump unaccompanied children that's enormous. this year fiscal year 2021. unaccompanied children, single minors, 146,000 compared to last year it was 33,000. jessica, what is the impact of this alarming number of children and minors on our education system here in the united states?

senator lindsey graham, thanks for being on justice. merry christmas. we told you last week about kids being vaxxed without their parents' consent. next we delve into another outrageous story every parent needs to hear. the reality of how the border crisis is impacting your child classroom right h snacking can mean that pieces get stuck under mike's denture. but super poligrip gives him a tight seal. to help block out food particles. so he can enjoy the game. super poligrip. >> i describe the border as chaos. >> this is the largest surge of migrants i have seen in my career. judge jeanine: the borderers in absolute chaos. , the influx of unaccompanied minors is impacting your child's classroom. jessica vaughn, thank you for being with us. i understand in addition to the alarm by the border authorities, that we have this year a jump unaccompanied children that's enormous. this year fiscal year 2021. unaccompanied children, single minors, 146,000 compared to last year it was 33,000. jessica, what is the impact of this alarming number of children and minor

you as lindsey graham said, it hard to get 18-year-olds to vote. how could you get 10,000 people and again, you look at the names, they submitted names. it does not hold up. it's just not there and when something is not there, then you dig and of course, that's what the committee is doing and i think it's one of the more important investigations congress has conducted ever. >> yeah, agreed. so i've got to ask you about some of the new texts from lawmakers, bob, like the one that talks about and i quote here an aggressive strategy to overturn the election. it wasn't just trump or white house officials or his allies at the doj. it was also members of congress. how does the scope of this compare to watergate? in watergate you have the president and a few people but how does the scope of this one compare to that? >> it's much larger. i think the central mystery and it still is a mystery, who were the operational cord -- coordinators? in this case on january 6th when is the law and constitution designating that is the day and 1:00 is the time when they

we call out lindsey graham all the time. in fact, i have dedicated a lot of time to doing that. he wanted this new cbo estimate. but right there, what he just said, was the truth. after all, you just heard democratic progressive leaders say it themselves. they want this stuff to be permanent, not to go away in aeria. they are not trying to keep it a secret. phil mattingly is tout front at the white house. so, phil, they come out here and say all right. let's assume this bill does what you guys admit you want it to do which is make the stuff become permanent. it is going to add $3 trillion to the deficit, not 300 billion. does the president think given that he is going to get joe manchin and kyrsten sinema on board when they haven't been on board the past four months? >> erin, the president was asked a version of that question earlier today and he was candid. he said i don't have the answer to that and that is not a dodge, that is actually a really good window into a very tenuous moment. for the cornerstone proposal of president biden's domestic agenda. the white house has counte

here to unpack that and much more south carolina senator lindsey graham. merry christmas and happy new year. you can name one thing? >> making donald trump look better every day. i don't know. the problem, pete, is the left, the radical left has biden in a box. he can't make the adjustments on the border he needs to secure the border. remain in mexico was imposed by the court. he can't change his border policy because the left won't let him. we can't expand drilling for oil here at home because the left won't let him. the foreign policy he is just incompetent. wrong about everything for 40 years. there is a 1-2 punch. radical islam is raging in afghanistan. 2022 could be the most dangerous year for american since 1939 and the world at large. >> pete: i want to get to that in a moment. we for a very dangerous moment in the world with an absentee commander-in-chief. in 2022 does this look bigger than '94 and 2010? the dissatisfaction is so high. republicans have a golden opportunity here. >> right. if we don't blow it. think of the word back lash. there is a

on this program last night, senator lindsey graham said in 2024, there is one person who can turn this country around and the republican nomination is his to win. watch this. >> is donald trump the nominee in it 2024 right now? >> yes, if he wants it. unless there is something out of left field, it's his nomination. the republican base appreciated him. we don't appreciate all of the things he does sometimes, but from a policy point of view he was the most successful president since reagan. it's his nomination and he will be in the white house in 2024 if he runs the campaign. >> pete: now tomi lahren and tammy bruce and david webb. happy new year. tomi, i will flip the script. if you are a democrat attempting to run in 2022, what is your message? what are you running on as you you appeal to voters 2 years into the biden administration? >> it has to be smoke and mirrors. democrats are having to decide if they will listen to hillary clinton or aoc. not great choices if you are a democrat and looking to keep your seat or get elected. you don't have a lot of great options. they are banking

and later, senator lindsey graham on the congressional budget office of president biden social spending plan. >> president biden spoke to the nation in the aftermath of severe weather in the midwest that claimed dozens of lives. here's what he had to say. president biden: good afternoon, folks. sorry to get you down here late on saturday afternoon. but i want to provide an update on the deadly and devastating tornadoes that have moved across several states in the united states, including touching down across 227 miles of kentucky alone. you're monitoring the situation very closely since early this morning. this might be one of the largest tornado outbreaks in our history. earlier today i called the governors of the states that were experiencing severe impacts, including arkansas, illinois, kentucky, missouri and tennessee. i also spoke with minority leader mitch mcconnell of kentucky. governor beshear and i started off the morning together, and he said, as i was watching on television while talking to him, and his comment was, it looks like a war zone, but worse. jill and i pray, and i

on this program last night senator lindsey graham said in 2024, there is one person who can turn this country around and the republican nomination is his to win. watch this. >> is donald trump the nominee in 2024 right now? >> yes, if he wants it. unless there is something out of left field, it's his nomination. the republican base appreciated him. we don't appreciate all of the things he does sometimes, but from a policy point of view he was the most successful president since reagan. it's his nomination and he will be in the white house in 2024 if he runs the campaign. >> pete: now tomi lahren and tammy bruce and david webb. happy new year. tomi, i will flip the script. if you are a democrat attempting to run in 2022, what is your message? what are you running on as you you appeal to voters 2 years into the biden administration? >> it has tou be smoke and mirrors. democrats are having to decide if they will listen to hillary clinton or aoc. not great choices if you are a democrat and looking to keep your seat or get elected. you don't have a lot of great options. they are banking on

graham. wow. what a way to go. that's like being able to request anything as your last meal on death row and ordering an interview with lindsey graham. what's next for chris? wallace will be joining cnn plus. well, sure. it's all part of their lose-a-chris, get-a-chris program. ( applause ) quality joe. that's a quality joke. it's true. we've learned an interesting tidbit about russian president, and man who forgot to take the coat hanger out of his jacket this morning, vladimir putin. i think you look lovely, sir. ( laughter ) putin sat down for an interview with russian state television, or as he calls it, a selfie. and he made a surprising admission-- he said that after the collapse of the soviet union, he was forced to work as a taxi driver to earn extra cash. unfortunately, he was not a very good driver, based on this review: one star. one wait time. i was murdered. still one star if you're murdered. and i'm guessing putin drives a cab the same way he rides a horse. ( laughter ) now, mov

senator lindsey graham rightly pointed out this would now send inflation even further through the roof. it will rock our economy even more. watch. >> if you believe these programs go away after one, two, or three years, you shouldn't have your driver's license. >> i am urging the democratic party to stop the madness, stop build back better, because build back better is going to be a dead blow to our economy. 6.8%. inflation is the enemy of working america. build back better aids into beds the enemy of inflation. that will drive that number higher paid >> sean: lindsey graham, the ranking member on te senate budget committee, thankfully he demanded real numbers. because the democrats have been lying the whole time for they've been using these accounting tricks to say oh, it's not going to cost a penny. we will get to that in a minute. in the last few weeks, biden and many other democrats said that over and over and over and over again, it is going to cost you nothing. let me remind you. take a look. >> will it add not -- will it not at a dime to the national debt? >> why should american

we will speak with linds lindsey graham, on the senate budget committee. plus, a supreme court ruling keeps in place a texas ban on most abortions. we will ask our sunday panel what it signals for roe v. wade ahead of the midterms. and our power player of the week. the doctor hoping to create an unlimited supply of life-saving organs. all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. we begin with breaking news. emergency crews are searching for survivors and digging through the destruction after a trail of deadly tornadoes -- the largest and most devastating, kentucky bearing the brunt. the governor saying 70 are dead but that could grow to more than 100. steve is on the ground in kentucky with the latest. >> when you see the aftermath of a tornado, you can see the path, one street gets hit, maybe the next street over, it does not get hit. the destruction is almost complete. the candle factory was one of the largest employers here. on friday, the tornado brought the building down, with 100 workers inside. including a pregnan

graham, lindsey voted for the bill when it passed 69-30. had we taken it up then in august, most observers think we would have had 40 to 60 republicans that would have voted for the bill. trump was against t he said he had a better bill. his bill was more expensive, no pay-fors and got people to get off the wagon to get this bill done. it was held hostage then by the progressives in the congress. they tried to get the build back better plan attached to this. ultimately failed, which is why they voted against the bipartisan bill at the end of the day. for us, people that helped write it, the actual blueprint, particularly in the problem solvers caucus, we won't get a -- we knew it had to pass. again, in my district, everyone knows about flint, michigan and the lead in their water line. the very next week i was out with a crew in my district replacing lead waterlines. this bill has $15 billion in it to try and help communities across the country. but whether it's ports or bridges, highways, broadband, all those things we considered as real in

graham, lindsey voted for the bill when it passed 69-30. had we taken it up then in august, most observers think we would have had 40 to 60 republicans that would have voted for the bill. trump was against it. he said he had a better bill. his bill was more expensive, no pay-fors and got people to get off the wagon to get this bill done. it was held hostage then by the progressives in the congress. they tried to get the build back better plan attached to this. ultimately failed, which is why they voted against the bipartisan bill at the end of the day. for us, people that helped write it, the actual blueprint, particularly in the problem solvers caucus, we won't get a -- we knew it had to pass. again, in my district, everyone knows about flint, michigan and the lead in their water line. the very next week i was out with a crew in my district replacing lead waterlines. this bill has $15 billion in it to try and help communities across the country. but whether it's ports or bridges, highways, broadband, all those things we considered as real

graham, the night of january 6, said he was done with donald trump, he couldn't do it any longer. then i guess when he realized, he needed donald trump's voters, he turned around again. it was said to the reporters, it will be hard to reveal all the participants involved. >>> still ahead, the latest from illinois where osha is investigating the amazon warehouse where multiple people died over the weekend. >>> ahead, new symptoms of what to look for with omicron. >>> and ethan crumbley's parents went to court and they could be receiving even more charges. t a receiving even more charges. (vo) t-mobile for business helps small business owners prosper during their most important time of year. when you switch to t-mobile and bring your own device, we'll pay off your phone up to $1000. you can keep your phone. keep your number. and get your employees connected on the largest and fastest 5g network. plus, we give you $200 in facebook ads on us! so you can reach more customers, create more opportunities, and finish this year strong. visit your local t-mobile store today. - san francisco

graham and mike lee of utah investigated these claims. they're on trump eastside and came up with absolutely zero evidence so you know we're still waiting to see that. normally when a politician, a president makes a claim, there is some basis. this case no basis that i have seen at all. >> none. none. you reported extensively for your book "peril," you reported in that book about the president in president trump's ear leading up to the insurrection like john eastman, steve bannon. was meadows in the loop on the efforts to overturn the election? >> well, he was there. we didn't have much, we didn't have the detail but he's the one that called a meeting in his office, the chief of staff's office down the hall from the oval office with senator lindsey graham and some others and said okay, what have we got here? rudy giuliani, trump's lawyer was there and turned over these incredible documents, which we have published and shared with people where they say tens of thousands of young people voted when they weren't eligible. it hard to get 18-ye

so, it's really -- i don't think -- agree with jeff, i don't think that lindsey graham could play the grim reaper. i'm not sure that his opinion means much to the democratic caucus. but it is better to have gotten this done before the beginning of the election year, the midterm election year. and i'm sure that there is disappointment that they haven't been able to do that. >> david, let me follow up because democratic senator mazie hirono putting it bluntly and her words i'm quoting her now, she said a 50/50 senate sucks. this is a reality for president biden right now, isn't it? >> yeah, it totally is. i thought that on election night. you know, on the special election night in georgia, i thought this is a -- it is say blessing and a curse. because when you have a 50/50 senate, every senator is an entrepreneur and every senator has the ultimate ability to sink bill. and that makes it very, very difficult and president biden has experienced that. he is a veteran of the senate for decades and he is -- he's got patience, but at some point your patience runs out with this. it is a really

here is what lindsey graham from south carolina had to say. [video clip] >> the good news for the american consumer, there's not going to be anymore inflation in your stockings because of build back better. i want to thank senator manchin and others were standing their ground. my belief is that build back better never gets better, and it will never get better. you cannot make this thing -- you cannot put lipstick on a pig, and when it comes to inflation and deficit spending, this is a monster pig. [end video clip] host: once again, we want to know your top news story of the week. let's go to diondre from miami, florida, independent line. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. my personal opinion, top news story, which a lot of people are talking about, recently, a top u.s. general is threatened possibly first strike, nuclear, against russia with the ongoing situation in ukraine, and i feel a lot of concern, and this is something that would not lead to anything good, and around this time of the year, the u.s. military should explore other

. >> editor sensing lindsey graham said he got the republican nomination that we've got joe rogan predicting michelle obama the thought of him at running against michelle obama and 2024 although she is not said anything about repose president trump in the lead by far in the party. pretty much every person looking at 2024 said they would not run if president trump would run. it is so far off we have to win the midterm first. they try to federalize elections of four times this year. if they get their way to get the house in the senate bill pulled away from the state and make it impossible for republican to win in 2024 read the midterms as a whole game right now, everyone needs to get engaged to make sure we would back the house and the senate. >> you see what happens in virginia with glenn youngkin as well and you say to yourself voters have stood back that watch the carnage this year either the president said it was a banged up a great year we are feeling at the conversations are having at the kitchen table. you just hope in local elections that people get out there. you make sure the voice w

graham stresses the legislation actually cause closer to 5 trillion dollars over 10 years. its programs are not allowed to expire between soaring inflation and they're true cost of build back better. these are 2 daggers that will stab the economy in the heart and destroy the ability of working people to make it in this country. using was all to try to attack the president's plan. kate berner with the biden administration argues the bill would cut taxes and lower the cost of prescription drugs, health care and child care. >> and she says steps the white house took in recent weeks are already working good progress this keep prices starting to >> and some of those steps include boosting the processing of cargo from congested ports and also releasing crude oil from the petroleum reserve live in washington. i'm jessi tenure. >> major retail. saying enough is enough now calling on congressional leaders to pass a piece of legislation that aims to prevent people from selling stolen goods online. these are the types of crimes top executives. some retailers like cbs, best buy and nor

he also says that he once briefed senator lindsey graham at the white house in mark meadows' office with rudy giuliani in the room. it is a bit of information that if true, could prove useful to the january 6th committee, as it pieces together who knew what and when. joining me now, carol leonnig, eugene daniels is a white house correspondent for politico, and the co-author of "playbook." and ben rhodes is a former deputy national security adviser under president obama. it is good to see you all. carol, your colleagues at "the post" note that there were a number of republican lawmakers besides graham who were aware of this powerpoint presentation and its contents, according to your reporting, what do we know about who these lawmakers were and what they might have known prior to january 6th? >> a lot of people, alicia, were listening in, if you will, as advisers to donald trump, as cheerleaders for donald trump's effort to claim that the election was rigged and stolen, especially in late december. and this powerpoint presentation, which my colleagues so, you know, explosively, as you say,

but the reason they are saying they do that is because lindsey graham says if you believe these programs are going away after one or two years, you should have a drivers license. child tax credits are not going to go away after year. what does the white house say? ms. psaki: to quote norm ornstein at the american enterprise institute, cap assume they will be extended just because lindsey graham wants to assure that. an estimate based not on what is in the bill is bogus and dishonest. this is a fake score. it's not about the existing bill anybody is voting on. this is about proposing the extension of programs that have not been agreed to without the commitment of the president, which he has made repeatedly known that he would not support these programs if they were not paid for. that has been his commitment, that is his commitment. i would also note there is an irony here, it should not be lost on the senator, maybe it is, but i don't know. but the plan proposed and plast into law, the 2017 tax cuts, work to trillion dollars which were not paid for. that did not seem to upset them at all.

. >> senator lindsey graham held a news conference to discuss the congressional budget score on the social spending can best plan. saying passage of the bill along with rising inflation would be a death blow to the economy. this is about half an hour. sen. graham: thank you all. i am senator graham from south carolina, i am the ranking number, the lead republican on the budget committee and we have some news to share with the american people about the true cost of filled back better and what started this conversation was a belief by senator manchin and many others about the original score. the original bill was scored at 1.7 $5 trillion -- 1.7 $5 trillion in cost and the way they got the number was the took 17 new programs created by back better and sunsetted them, one year, 2, 3 years. if you believe they go away after 1, 2, or three years you should not have a drivers license. ronald reagan said the closest thing -- here. if i am wrong i would like a letter from senator schumer and the democratic conference saying they are ok with these programs terminating in one year or two years. the

republicans like south carolina senator lindsey graham say they plan to expose the truth calls of the 1.7 5 trillion dollar bill. there is not a plan to pay for it. if there is. i missed it so give it to me. >> give it to the american people before we vote in the senate. show me how you pay for this bill. but kobe sure says there is a plan to pay for the legislation. this bill is paid for but paid for by taxing the wealthiest graham says the massive spending bill will only make the inflation situation worse. >> this bill build back better will be gasoline on the inflation problem and west virginia senator joe manchin says he still has a number of concerns about the legislation and he remains a key holdout for senate democrats reporting in washington rashad hudson back to all right. well, here's a live look at radar right now. you can see that weather in the storm. >> all across the bay area here. we're going to have more updates on the forecast and your commute in just a few minutes. i was injured in a car crash. i had no idea how much my case was worth. i called the barnes firm. when

my sponsor was, his senator, president trump's best friend in the senate, lindsey graham, lindsay voted for the bill when it passed 69-30. had we taken it up then, in august, most observers think we would have had 40-60 republicans who voted for the bill. trump was against it, said he had a better bill, this bill was too expensive, and that got people off the wagon to get this bill done. but it was held hostage by progressives in the congress. they tried to get the build back better than attached to this and failed, which is why they voted against the bipartisan bill. but for us, people that helped write it, the actual blueprint, particularly the problem solvers caucus, we were not going to back off for a need we knew had passed. in my district, everyone knows about flint, michigan, the lead in the water lines. the next week, i was out with a crew in my district replacing led waterlines. this bill has $15 billion in it to try to help communities across the country, whether it is ports, ridges, broadband, all those things we considered as real infrastructure needs and needed to be done w

senator lindsey graham. your chairman the senator passed a resolution on the debt ceiling. did a republican cave this time? >> this was not the debt ceiling but keep the government funded until february eighteenth. i predict that not one republican will vote to raise the debt ceiling. >> sean: they said they would not do it in september and then other republicans caved like a cheap suit. >> you are right. i don't think it will happen again for a lot of reasons. keep this tape and see if i am wrong. tonight was about funding the government. you are the only guy in the whole town talking about the fraud of the build back better bill. this is a fraud. it doesn't cost 1.6-trillion dollars over 10 years. it cost 4.8 trillion dollars depending on who you believe. the bipartisan budget group. it added 2.7 trillion dollars to the debt. the programs in this bill be budget gimmicks. we expand child tax credit and pay for free community college. these programs go away after 2 years. i will be in the nba before these programs go away. they are never going away. when your look at these

lindsey graham. i am hearing that build back better green new deal is dead. manchin said it's bs because democrats turned on him and they are trying to make the case he is trying to kill the child tax credit. that's a lie. he's always been for that credit. his own party turned against him. he is looking out for the energy sector which is such a big part of the west virginia economy. >> yes. build back better is dead forever. let me tell you why. joe manchin won't vote for a bill that will add to the deficit. well, build back better ads 3 trillion dollars and makes inflation worse. the child care provision in build back better prohibit religious institutions from receiving money. if you have a child in a religious institution providing childcare, you won't be eligible for money from the government because that child goes to a religious institutions. it increases the wages of child care providers so the families will have to spend more. it's an inflation bomb. at the end of the day joe manchin promised the people of west virginia i will not vote for a bill that

you will get the here is lindsey graham. i am hearing thatha build back better green new deal is dead. that doesn't mean it's going away. i watched manson -- mansion today. manchin said it's bs because democrats turned on him and the are trying to make the case he is trying to kill the child tax that's a lie. he's always been for that credit. his own party turned against him. he iswn looking out for the energy sector which is such a big part of the west virginia economy. > i think build back better is dead forever. let me tell you w joe manchin won't vote for a bill that will add to the def well, build back better ads 3 trillion dollars and makes inflation worse. the child care provision in build back better religious institutions from receiving money. if you have a child in a religious institut providing childcare, you won't be eligible for money from the government because that child goes to a religious institution it increases the wages of child care providers so the families will have to spend $13,000 more it's an inflat

graham and senator mike lee of utah, big donald trump supporters and they came up and they discovered that all of these claims are false and that one of the lawyers from donald trump actually wrote a blueprint which we have the book coming this is so, where does this and, history is never over right-handed the opportunity to find out more and define this,. >> were you surprised during the research>> and peril with bob costa, reese president trump as much fuel in m the state, coming when you watch january 6, that was the end of don company seems to be beyond being alive and well, his heart and soul the republican party. >> as he is, tens of millions of people believe the election was stolen. we are looking at we looked we have documentation we showed that there is nothing there so here we are and divided america into big journalistic problem but a moral problem to the country of people do not listen to the other side. the great novelist, senate do not despise your enemies, or people who are on the other side, they have a case and we need to understand the case. >> where were you on jan

it is people like senator pat toomey and lindsey graham who have made overtures and said, if you go through this process, we will not make it take too long, it will not quite take two weeks, so they are still trying to figure out the deadlines and they're looking to people like toomey and graham to see what exactly that process will be like. tom: educate us on the arduous washington december. when do they go home? i have a mind of december 20 -- monday of december 22 thursday of december 23. when do they leave? jack: the past three years, a lot of the time, they do not finish until the friday before christmas. this year happens to be christmas eve, so it is hard to say what the practical deadline is when lawmakers get fed up with the inconvenience and the travel holidays. but right now, you can pretty much through the congressional calendar out the window and said it will go up probably close to the holidays, especially as we get closer to december 21 or so, whatever the hazy debt limit deadline is looking like sometime around christmas. if they have a plan and can follow through it leading

. >> sandra: will there be consequences in the mid-terms and see a wipe out for democrat as lindsey graham predicted on this program yesterday? when you consider this "wall street journal" polling on which party is better suited to fight crime. americans respond: republicans are favored to tackle this more than democrats. >> well, of course they are. a couple of democrats who won elections in 2020 who said the movement to defund police almost cost them their seat. it's illogical. congress doesn't have as much to do with local crime. but they are the same party. i think this soft on crime approach is really a bad thing. the tragedy is we know how to bring down violent crime. the question is whether the authorities in power, the mayors and the district attorneys will back their police or won't back their police. if they don't you get what we see now. >> sandra: bill, we just received a statement from the district attorney for those statements he issued that seemed to ignore the crime crisis that is happening in that city. he wants us to know this: that's not what i meant. complete answers ar

senator lindsey graham. your chamber, the senate passed a resolution on the debt ceiling. did a republican cave this time? >> this was not the debt ceiling but keep the government funded until february eighteenth. we haven't addressed the debt ceiling yet. i predict that not one republican will vote to raise the debt ceiling. the democratic party -- >> sean: senator come i don't mean to interrupt you, but the republican party said they wouldn't do it in december. other republicans caved like ra cheap suit. >> you are right. i don't think it will happen againit for a lot of reasons. keep this tape and see if i am wrong. tonight was about funding the government. you are the only guy in the whole town talking about the fraud of the build back better bill. this is a fraud. it doesn't cost 1.6-trillion dollars over 10 years. it cost 4.8 trillion dollars depending on who you believe. the bipartisan budget group. it added 2.7 trillion dollars to the debt. how can that be? the programs in this bill be budget gimmicks.s. we expand child tax credit and pay for free community college

the proposals are popular but right now, and i think this is what you are hearing from lindsey graham, being successful thing forget about the individual parts of the bill, look at the ultimate price tag and the idea that some of these programs may remain in place even once the bill is done and accrue even higher type price tags. joe manchin is reluctant to sign on right now. i don't think the bill is dead but right now you can anticipate it's going to be, i don't even know if january is a realistic juncture. kennedy: how do they negotiate? is not just the child tax credit, that's very narrow, the legislative tax is not finalized, they don't have proper cbo score and there are elements that can be problematic for senators and purple state. >> that's right, play along with our youth fruitcake, you got to make sure the people are willing to eat there fruitcake and build back better. manchin said he's in up next 1.75 trillion. so the question is, what is in that? that's where you have to start scripting things out, get rid of it burn in the toilet and so far joe in the democrat are reluc

graham said that we should have and right now, i will ask you, in fact. ted cruz has an amendment, which will restore this pipeline operation and we can still do great harm there. and then why didn't we do that and then use it as a negotiating tool? >> well, you were in the room as well. eighteen or 19 months where we made clear that we know that he didn't have soldiers on the border, his determination and the points are exactly right. i have not seen the details of the senator ted cruz amendment. i know we have seen a lot, denying the russians the ability and the capacity that he has in places like nuremberg and germany. i hope that the biden administration will do it on their own as they should have. and also and that includes the things that the american people care about and then it comes time and there are places where we can work together and you can't do it from a place of deference and appeasement, larry. larry kudlow: thank you for that. how can the united states ever agree to allowing russia's argument that no more nato countries and no more eu

lindsey graham and all of them have been great. they've got their own agendas. host: that was calvin in south carolina. this is rich in pittsburgh. good morning. caller: how are you doing? host: go ahead. caller: regarding the biggest loser, in my view it's the media. these people are not talented people. the only talent they've got is being professional liars. the people are being fed misinformation constantly. the majority of your listeners are illiterates. thank you. host: colin in virginia. good morning. caller: i think that two sides of the same. the biggest winner is glenn youngkin and the other is terry mcauliffe. objectively, there was a 12 point swing from 2020 two republicans and 2021. host: take us back to that night. were you expecting at that point that mcauliffe was going to be able to pull it out? how big a surprise was it? caller: it was like watching a slow-motion train wreck. i had been seeing more and more polls that were pro youngkin. you could -- if you were watching the messaging, flyers were saying things like glenn youngkin endorsed by tr

senator lindsey graham said he asked the cbo to evaluate that bill. here's what he said on hannity. >> i asked the cbo to look at the bill to see if it had budget gimmicks, the 17 program stay in place the bill never go away, it was $5 trillion, the bill on the floor is a lie. todd: democrat still hopeful they will push the embattled spending over the line as the year comes to a close but a long road ahead if they think of that. carley: it is almost christmas. that is when this is going down. the times 11 minutes after the hour. gone in an instant, kentucky family after a tornado flattens the restaurant that has been in their family for 75 years. todd: but they are not giving up and are ready to rebuild. we talked to one of the owners next. ♪♪ it's my 4:05 the-show-must-go-on migraine medicine. it's ubrelvy. for anytime, anywhere migraine strikes, without worrying if it's too late, or where i am. one dose can quickly stop my migraine in its tracks within two hours. unlike older medicines, ubrelvy is a pill that directly blocks cgrp protein, believ