tom bevin, to you first here, we don't know, you can't really read all that much from just listening to this. we don't know the court's decision until next june probably, but it did sound especially from what chief justice was saying they are trying to find the way to sort of thread the needle here so that they may uphold the mississippi law, which is a 15-week limit, and as we heard chief justice roberts say that's not out of line with international standards, while perhaps not striking down all of roe v. wade in a way that would allow states to ban abortion. what's your sense about how this may play out? >> i think that sounds about right. it's certainly seemed like the conservative justices were open to the idea of revisiting the issues surrounding both roe and [inaudible]. whether they decide to strike it down remains to be seen. i think this is a situation too where this has been one of those issues where the public has -- attitudes on abortion really haven't changed. people who are in favor have stayed in favor. people against abortions have stayed against abortions. i'm not su

i stole this from tom bevin's web page. when joe biden was elected president on january 20, 2021 his approval was 66%. he went from being up 20 to down 7. the reason is what you just walked through. -- 56%. afghanistan broke all of the dams. joe biden had bipartisan support and botched it. did it terribly. that opened up the doors to all of his other botches starting with covid. he made the most irresponsible promise any politician ever made when he said i will shut down the virus. he hasn't come close. he made things worse. on issue after issue, inflation and the southern border and afghanistan and the virus and crime, this country is going on the wrong track and people blame the president for it. >> laura: vaccines we were told in the spring, summer and fall were going to set us free. not according to biden's cdc. watch this. >> we have the tools 2 protect ourselves against covid-19. we have vaccine and boosters and we know masks indoors and practicing social distancing are important even if you are vaccinateded and boost

let's go to tom bevin the real clear politics co-founder. tom where is build back better going? >> well, i mean, all indications are they are going to try and reboot it. it's in sort of a zombie phase, it was dead but now it's sort of wandering around aim leslie trying to president construct it this is all going to come down to joe manchin again and whether he basically writes what he wants and the democrats and the progressives in the house in particular swallow it and that's kind of what its always been, but there was this back and forth between manchin and the white house he said the white houses staff people, that they were pointing fingers at each other and the white house released this blistering statement but now it appears they are trying to patch things up, nancy pelosi has signaled she feels like there's progress to be made after the first of the year so we'll see. i think it's still maybe 50/50 at best, neil, something gets done at this point. neil: so you know, if they have to open it up again, and just sort of prioritize on what they want, we're told the things that

let's go to tom bevin of real clear politics. as remarkable as that sounds, used to be common place for presidents to go through their vice presidents like tissue paper. f.d.r. switched running mates every run. so since we haven't seen it whether we're about to now. >> seems unlikely, neil. the latest -- go back to the 70s with gerald ford replacing spiro agnew. but it certainly hasn't happened in the modern era. she cannot be fired obviously. there's talk that she might get a supreme court appointment. someone would have to resign or die. that seems like a bank shot. and at the end of the day, you know, biden could -- if he's going to run for re-election, he could choose to drop her and replace her with pete buttigieg. he would be under pressure to not do that from plenty of people in the democratic party. >> normally everything is right, you have to deal with the earpiece here, but everything is right when the administration turns itself right or comes through bad poll numbers. that is one of the first things an administration

tom bevin is co-founder and president of real clear politics and joins me now. tom, good morning. what do you make of the latest poll results? the president's approval rating has continued to sink throughout the year. >> yeah, good morning, cheryl. this is a story we've seen repeating itself in poll after poll for the last three or four months, essentially. and biden still has pretty strong support among democrats, low to mid-80s in terms of his job approval rating and obviously republicans are overwhelmingly against him in the 90s. but it's independents whereby den started off his administration with pretty strong support among independents but he's seen that deteriorate to the point where you have more than 40% in most polls not just disapprove but strongly disapprove of the job the president is doing overall and that number actually goes up when you dig into particular issues like crime and immigration. so he has loss the support of independents across the board and it's really been hurting him politically. cheryl: yeah. well, there's another new poll that shows 45% of independ