so there's yes, we hear level of mia zalinski, the ukrainian president in what so many people are saying seems to be an attempt by him very much to stamp his all sortie on this crisis. we have heard so little fraud, him certainly being as assertive as that. bear in mind that the ukrainian president is suffering some of the lowest popularity ratings he has in his presidency. here is a man that one the election with a promise to return these separatist controlled areas of don bass and crimea back to you grain. oh, it's fair to say that he seems to be trying to de escalate the situation. and as i say, very much stamp his authority on it by saying that no agreement can be made without ukraine's full participation. it should not be an agreement between russia and the u. s. alone and him saying that, sir, it doesn't seem to be any worse than the crisis in 2014. well, of course, bear in mind that in 2014 ukraine, last crimea, to russia and arguably, or without much of an argument, actually indeed the areas that we're standing in here on net can new hanks. the separate is controlled regions. so