people are not going to huge lengths to hide behind tor browsers and on the dark web, because they don't need to. and i've seen it for myself in these birds that often get mutilated. they're crammed in these really crowded boxes, dying of dehydration. it's a slow, painful, miserable death for a lot of these birds. lara: back in the new forest, i asked chris about the wider impact of the illegal wildlife trade. we are in the middle of a climate and biodiversity crisis, which is really, really seriously impacting on our lives — even if we haven't felt it here in uk yet — so stamping out illegal wildlife crime is absolutely critical. the principal culprits here for me are not those poachers — sometimes, people living in poverty that can't do anything but capture birds in the forest to feed their family — and tackling that part of the crime would be extraordinarily difficult. the easier part would be dealing with those platforms. they have the technological capacity to stop this, i believe, overnight if there was a will. what do you feel that conservationists could do to help with th

browsers and on the dark web, because they don't need to. and i've seen it for myself with these birds that often get mutilated. they are crammed in these really crowded boxes, dying of dehydration. it is a slow, painful, miserable death for a lot of these birds. lara: back in the new forest, i asked chris about the wider impact of the illegal wildlife trade. we are in the middle of a climate and biodiversity crisis, which is really, really seriously impacting on our lives — even if we have not felt here in uk yet — so stamping out illegal wildlife crime is absolutely critical. the principal culprits here for me are not those poachers — sometimes people living in poverty that cannot do anything but capture birds in the forest to feed their family — and tackling that part of the crime will be extraordinarily difficult. the easier part would be dealing with those platforms. they have the technological capacity to stop this, i believe, overnight if there was a will. what do you feel that conservationists could do to help with this cause

browsers and on the dark web, because they don't need to. and i have seen it for myself with these birds that often get mutilated. they are crammed in these really crowded boxes, dying of dehydration. it is a slow, painful, miserable death for a lot of these birds. lara: back in the new forest, i asked chris about the wider impact of the illegal wildlife trade. we are in the middle of a climate and biodiversity crisis which is really, really seriously impacting on our lives — even if we have not felt here in uk yet — so stamping out illegal wildlife crime is absolutely critical. the principal culprits here for me are not those poachers — sometimes people living in poverty that cannot do anything but capture birds in the forest to feed their family — and tackling that part of the crime will be extraordinarily difficult. the easier part would be dealing with those platforms. they have the technological capacity to stop this, i believe, overnight, if there was a will. what do you feel that conservationists could do to help with this cau

browsers and on the dark web, because they don't need to. and i've seen it for myself in these birds that often get mutilated. they're crammed in these really crowded boxes, dying of dehydration. it's a slow, painful, miserable death for a lot of these birds. lara: back in the new forest, i asked chris about the wider impact of the illegal wildlife trade. we are in the middle of a climate and biodiversity crisis, which is really, really seriously impacting on our lives — even if we haven't felt it here in uk yet — so stamping out illegal wildlife crime is absolutely critical. the principal culprits here for me are not those poachers — sometimes people living in poverty that can't do anything but capture birds in the forest to feed their family — and tackling that part of the crime would be extraordinarily difficult. the easier part would be dealing with those platforms. they have the technological capacity to stop this, i believe, overnight if there was a will. what do you feel that conservationists could do to help with this cause?

people are not going to huge lengths to hide behind tor browsers and on the dark web, because they don't need to. and i have seen it for myself with these birds that often get mutilated. they are crammed in these really crowded boxes, dying of dehydration. it is a slow, painful, miserable death for a lot of these birds. lara: back in the new forest, i asked chris about the wider impact of the illegal wildlife trade. we are in the middle of a climate and biodiversity crisis which is really, really seriously impacting on our lives — even if we haven't felt here in uk yet — so stamping out illegal wildlife crime is absolutely critical. the principal culprits here for me are not those poachers — sometimes people living in poverty that cannot do anything but capture birds in the forest to feed their family — and tackling that part of the crime will be extraordinarily difficult. the easier part would be dealing with those platforms. they have the technological capacity to stop this, i believe, overnight, if there was a will. what do you feel that conservationists could do to help with

browsers and on the dark web, because they don't need to. and i have seen it for myself with these birds that often get mutilated. they are crammed in these really crowded boxes, dying of dehydration. it is a slow, painful, miserable death for a lot of these birds. lara: back in the new forest, i asked chris about the wider impact of the illegal wildlife trade. we are in the middle of a climate and biodiversity crisis which is really, really seriously impacting on our lives — even if we have not felt here in uk yet — so stamping out illegal wildlife crime is absolutely critical. the principal culprits here for me are not those poachers — sometimes people living in poverty that cannot do anything but capture birds in the forest to feed their family — and tackling that part of the crime will be extraordinarily difficult. the easier part would be dealing with those platforms. they have the technological capacity to stop this, i believe, overnight, if there was a will. what do you feel that conservationists could do to help with this cau

browsers and on the dark web, because they don't need to. and i've seen it for myself in these birds that often get mutilated. they're crammed in these really crowded boxes, dying of dehydration. it's a slow, painful, miserable death for a lot of these birds. lara: back in the new forest, i asked chris about the wider impact of the illegal wildlife trade. we are in the middle of a climate and biodiversity crisis, which is really, really seriously impacting on our lives — even if we haven't felt it here in uk yet — so stamping out illegal wildlife crime is absolutely critical. the principal culprits here for me are not those poachers — sometimes people living in poverty that can't do anything but capture birds in the forest to feed their family — and tackling that part of the crime would be extraordinarily difficult. the easier part would be dealing with those platforms. they have the technological capacity to stop this, i believe, overnight if there was a will. what do you feel that conservationists could do to help with this cause?

browsers and on the dark web, because they don't need to. and i've seen it for myself in these birds that often get mutilated. they're crammed in these really crowded boxes, dying of dehydration. it's a slow, painful, miserable death for a lot of these birds. lara: back in the new forest, i asked chris about the wider impact of the illegal wildlife trade. we are in the middle of a climate and biodiversity crisis, which is really, really seriously impacting on our lives — even if we haven't felt it here in uk yet — so stamping out illegal wildlife crime is absolutely critical. the principal culprits here for me are not those poachers — sometimes people living in poverty that can't do anything but capture birds in the forest to feed their family — and tackling that part of the crime would be extraordinarily difficult. the easier part would be dealing with those platforms. they have the technological capacity to stop this, i believe, overnight if there was a will. what do you feel that conservationists could do to help with this cause?

browsers and on the dark web, because they don't need to. and i've seen it for myself in these birds that often get mutilated. they're crammed in these really crowded boxes, dying of dehydration. it's a slow, painful, miserable death for a lot of these birds. lara: back in the new forest, i asked chris about the wider impact of the illegal wildlife trade. we are in the middle of a climate and biodiversity crisis, which is really, really seriously impacting on our lives — even if we haven't felt here in uk yet — so stamping out illegal wildlife crime is absolutely critical. the principal culprits here for me are not those poachers — sometimes people living in poverty that can't do anything but capture birds in the forest to feed their family — and tackling that part of the crime would be extraordinarily difficult. the easier part would be dealing with those platforms. they have the technological capacity to stop this, i believe, overnight if there was a will. what do you feel that conservationists could do to help with this cause? fra