one of the most influential figures in the world of philanthropy is darren walker. he is an influential figure in the world of culture and arts. i sat down with him recently to talk about how he rose from modest circumstances to become a leading figure in the world of philanthropy, culture and art. as the head of the ford foundation you are one of the most important people in the world of philanthropy. darren: i am part of a constellation of people lucky enough to lead foundations like ford or rockefeller, any of the great legacies, but covid has absolutely impacted how we do our work, both internationally and domestically. let's start with internationally. the reality of this moment is we are seeing tremendous inequality . the ways in which vaccines are being distributed, the ways in which they are being manufactured, and the issues around cost and intellectual property, which are profound and having a dramatic impact for people in africa and much of the global south. the covid in -- in the united states, covid has meant that communities that are the most vulnerabl

i am not in demand because darren walker is that interesting of a person. i am in demand because i am president of the ford foundation. and when i am no longer president of the ford foundation, i can assure you, i'll have lots more time to have dinner with you. ♪ david: the jeff bezos fortune. he's giving away money. his former wife is giving away money in different ways. is that a new model? darren: no country in the world has the diversity of ways of giving as we do in the united states. so, i celebrate every time a new foundation is created in whatever form. ♪ ♪ david: in the united states in the early part of the 20th century and then in the mid part of the 20th century, wealthy people like rockefeller set up foundations where they would take their stock or other assets and put it in a foundation would be to some extent controlled for a while by families, but then eventually the families would not be in control. in the ford foundation case, henry ford famously got off the board many decades ago because he was not happy, it was said, with the ford

i am not in demand because darren walker is that interesting of a person. i am in demand because i am president of the ford foundation. and when i am no longer president of the ford foundation, i can assure you i will have lots more time to have dinner with you. david: the jeff bezos fortune. he is giving away money. his former wife is giving away money. is that a new model? darren: no country in the world has the diversity of ways of giving as we do in the united states. so i celebrate every time a new foundation is created, in whatever form. ♪ david: in the united states in the early part of the 20th century, in the middle part of the 20th century, wealthy people would set up foundations where they would take their stock or other assets and put in a foundation. it would be to some extent controlled for a while by families and eventually the families would not be in control . in the ford foundation, henry ford famously got off the board many decades ago because he was not happy it was said with the ford foundation. now, you have reengaged the ford family

i am not in demand because darren walker is that interesting of a person. i am in demand because i am president of the ford foundation. and when i am no longer president of the ford foundation, i can assure you, i'll have lots more time to have dinner with you. david: the jeff bezos fortune. he's giving away money. his former wife is giving away money in different ways. is that a new model? darren: no country in the world has the diversity of ways of giving as we do in the united states. so, i celebrate every time a new foundation is created in whatever form. ♪ david: in the united states in the early part of the 20th century and then in the mid part of the 20th century, wealthy people like rockefeller set up foundations where they would take their stock or other assets and put it in a foundation would be to some extent controlled for a while by families, but then eventually the families would not be in control. in the ford foundation case, henry ford famously got off the board many decades ago because he was not happy, it was said, with the ford foundati

i am not in demand because darren walker is that interesting of a person. i am in demand because i am president of the ford foundation. and when i am no longer president of the ford foundation, i can assure you i'll have lots more time to have dinner with you. david: the jeff bezos fortune. he's giving away money. his former wife is giving away money in different ways. is that a new model? darren: no country in the world has the diversity of ways of giving as we do in the united states. so, i celebrate every time a new foundation is created in whatever form. ♪ ♪ david: in the united states in the early part of the 20th century and then in the mid part of the 20th century, wealthy people like john d. rockefeller or henry ford set up foundations where they would take their stock or other assets and put it into a foundation, and then the foundation would to some extent be controlled for a while by families, but then eventually the families would not be in control. in the ford foundation case, henry ford famously got off the board many decades ago because h