what is the crux of turkeys issue? bobby: turkeys issue with europe in general, with nato in particular has always been over kurdish separatists. there are different shades of kurdish separatists, some of whom turkey and the united states categorizes as terrorist groups. some of these activists live and work in nordic countries, including sweden, to a lesser extent finland. what turkey is saying is that it once its concerns to be taken more seriously, and once these countries to act against this kind of activism, to crack down against it and possibly to expel people that it regards as terrorists from living in places like stockholm and helsinki. kriti: it's fascinating that happens because, for context for our audience, sweden is actually a refugee grounds for hundred thousand kurds -- 100,000 kurds and that is the basis why turkey says they are nesting ground for terrorist organizations. geopolitics at play. i have to ask about finland, where did finland fall? bobby: there's a population of refugees in finland, not as

something he will welcome as turkey heads towards presidential elections next year are gonna. the u. s. is trying to convince turkey to soften is position d w's in his paul is in washington covering the story for us. she told us how the meeting went when finland and sweden cigna. they were thinking of making the historic decision. joining nato. the alliance expected a tough response from moscow not from one of its own. so, ever since turkey raised conditions for accepting the membership, the rest of nato was actually really irritated and pretty outspoken about it. however, we hear from today's meeting between the foreign minister of turkey and biden's national security advisor, blinking that both sides are on a path to find an agreement. but at this point, they don't mention this sir, this specifics in his pull that. so is president edwin taking a tough stance on nato expansion to leverage some sort of deal has d w's turkey correspondent, dorian jones? i think that is the expectation at the moment, or there is his belief that her anchor is in his strong position. but at the sa

another dispute is over sophisticated weaponry for turkey. the issue could actually be about us fighter jets. turkey was dropped from the f 35 advanced fighter jet development program in 2019 this was part of the us sanctions packet imposed on the country after it bought a russian air defense system. many believe anchor is now hoping to pressure the us into selling it new f. 16 fighter jets instead. an extremely controversial topic and washington, another issue in 2019 sweden halted weapons deliveries to turkey. after it attacked kurdish people's defense units in northern syria and launched and offensive there. anamosa turkish president reject type odor. one could considered this grounds enough to block the start of nato. accession talked for sweden and finland, possibly destabilizing the alliance. and the process would, it would play into president putin's hands. it would send a signal that there is no unity within nato. the wrong signal at precisely the wrong moment. ignite of 5. since i put in new york, u. s. secretary of state antony blin

i mean, the us secretary of state said he's confident turkeys. greet confident turkey grievances towards the 2 countries will be overcome swiftly. i. i don't understand why from where mr. ben can find the right people, you know, be all for the turkish government because, you know, secretary state of u. s. government, but he's focused on the b l for cookie shortages and the united states. also one of the countries who is supporting directly the service organization in the north of syria. now everybody know all public know that they are giving arms to p. k y p g in norco, syria. and these 2 groups are making attacks against turkish are men also turkish civilians for 40 years now. and we lost a lot of local for a civilian because of these attacks. and now it's like a turkey and united states are not also not sharing the same values. and i don't understand how to lincoln is talking on the well, it took us government to we have this k post on it's coming up at the end of next month. what can the us and the rest of the block can do to manage to secure turkey support by then? i think now nato i

i think right now what you see is an effort to keep it between sweden and turkey and finland and turkey and for those countries to figure out if there is perhaps symbolic concessions they convey, there is a compromise path here where perhaps a joint counterterrorism cell to investigate some of these claims are turkey has made. again, the problem here is fundamental. turkeys support for kurdish political rights and kurdish activism is criminaliszed, is considered terrorism. in sweden thatis is considered terrorism. in sweden that is not the case and there are no speech crimes and can be guilty by association. what turkey really wants which is the extradition of these figures in a crackdown on their right to free speech is in fact a deal breaker for these democratic countries. i think on the arms embargo we will probably see a compromise. we see in other countries including the uk lift all restrictions on arms to turkey. that is something where we do not a part compromise is possible. the other is that erdogan has more demands in mind or may broach them in the coming days and that might h

we will commit to turkey security, just as turkey will commit to olive security. we take terrorism seriously. we condemn terrorism in all its forms, and we are actively engaged in combating it. we are open to discussing all the concerns. turkey may have other nato nations, a confident the turkeys reservations will be overcome. but for now, at least it looks like it may be some months before sweden and finland can take part in these baltic drills as nato allies. well, earlier i spoke to jonathan cats about nato's potential nordic enlargement. he's a senior fellow at the german marshall fund, and i asked him what is needed to shift to turkey's opposition to allowing finland, unsweetened join nato? yeah, i sure i share the belief that, that, that these, the objections the tricky is put in place can be overcome. and of course, turkey has experience terrorism and loss of life. the p k. k. terrace organization is listed as a church organization, the united states and elsewhere. so there's, there's some legitimate concerns in turkey side about is security concerns. and s

we will commit to turkey security just as turkey will commit to our security. we take terrorism seriously. we condemn terrorism in all its forms, and we are actively engaged in combating it. we are open to discussing all the concerns. turkey may have other nato nations competing. the turkeys reservations will be over come, but for now, at least it looks like it may be some months before sweden and finland can take part in these baltic drills as nato allies. let's take a closer look at nato's potential nordic enlargement with jonathan cats. he's a senior fellow at the german marshall fund and joins us from washington. welcome to d. w. what is needed to shift turkey's opposition to the finish and swedish applications? yeah, i sure i share the belief that, that, that these, the objections the turkey is put in place can be overcome. and of course, turkey has experience terrorism and loss of life. the p k. k. terrace organization is listed as a church organization in the united states and elsewhere. so there's, there's some legitimate concerns in turkey side about i

a turkey from nato. a certain leave is a des, either fact or within nato, and the mo, the crises sweeter be going on in ukraine. the more actually are russia will gain positions on the ground on the, on sanctions. we do nothing or to stop a russia of the more or different position we will emerge within nato member states on turkey. we try again to maximize its own position as a balance between nor russia and united states, yet the backdrop to that as well. of course as turkey blocking sweden and finland from joining nate. so as all new applications need to be agreed upon unanimously, is that going to lead to, to more instability within the alliance? then, of course, or because her, as i said, are turkey's more more, using a is position to with in a nate to, to impose its own national interest and says they consider about children. and sweden wrote support for terrorist to well of kurdish organizations to once independence are they? they went to a, you was earth this to nato enlargement possibility to wer

thanks for joining us. turkey has blocked talks on finland and sweden joining nato. both nordic nations have now formerly submitted membership bits. new members need unanimous agreement from all 30 current members, but turkey has said no turkish precedent. rich of type ad on accuses finland and sweden of harboring kurdish terrorists and other dispute is a sophisticated weaponry for turkey. the issue could actually be about us fighter jets. turkey was dropped from the f 35 advanced fighter jet development program in 2019 this was part of the us sanctions packet imposed on the country after it bought a russian air defense system. many believe anchor is now hoping to pressure the u. s. and to selling it new f. 16 fighter jets instead. an extremely controversial topic in washington. another issue in 2019 sweden halted weapons deliveries to turkey after it attacked kurdish people's defense units in northern syria and launched and offensive there. anamosa. turkish president, reject type odor. one could considered this grounds enough to block the start of nato. accession ta

we will commit to turkey security, just as turkey will commit to olive security. we take terrorism seriously. we condemn terrorism in all its forms, and we are actively engaged in combating it. we are open to discussing all the concerns. turkey may have other nato nations competing. the turkeys reservations will be over come, but for now, at least it looks like it may be some months before sweden and finland can take part in these baltic drills as nato allies. let's take a closer look at nato's potential nordic enlargement with jonathan cats. he's a senior fellow at the german marshall fund and joins us from washington. welcome to d. w. what is needed to shift turkeys opposition to the finish and swedish applications? yeah, i sure i share the belief that, that, that these, the objections the tricky is put in place can be overcome. and of course, turkey has experience terrorism and loss of life. the p k. k. terrace organization is listed as the chair organization in the united states and elsewhere . so there's, there's some legitimate concerns in turkey side about

but then no inter naming turkey directly saying that in fact i, it is up to turkey to really set an example and that it is open. in other words, finland sweetie, are open to discussing all of turkey's concerns, and that they, the 2 nations take all forms of terrorism seriously. and in turn they would combat all forms of terrorism seriously know why is he saying that? well. c turkey has accused sweden and finland of harboring terrorists, namely that they support and finance allegedly, to groups that turkey deemed to be terrorists. now obviously these are allegations that finland and sweden deny and these are the issues that are being worked out. but this is why turkey has opposed these memberships. now, the white house says that it is confident this can be worked out and ultimately get through this 1st hurdle. but even if this 1st stage is advanced, there are still opportunities for turkey along the way to oppose this membership. so there's a long way to go. but again, the white house says it is fully, it's pro is full support behind these applications. it believes that this is an opportunit

a business turkeys sky. high inflation rate continues to climb. prices in the country rose by almost 70 percent in april, according to new official statistics. the new figure gifts turkey, the dubious honor of having the 6th highest inflation rate in the world. it comes as president regis tab out of order. one continues to insist, interest rates be cut to stem inflation. the opposite of what conventional economists recommend that the rising prices are putting further pressure on turks who are struggling to make ends meet. we ask them people on the streets of istanbul, how inflation is impacting their lives. i'd wish joking. inflation is much higher than 70 percent. it has even passed 100 percent. there is an incredible increase, so i don't know that our end is not good at all. it's a nightmare. everyone's life is a nightmare. everyone in worried. what will happen to morrow? no, we do where we headed. everyone has that fear formed little busy. the situation is breaking asada to lose or having a 100 layers to

it's time to external turkey, nato. let it go to russia, let it go to china, let it go to one good written tradition. turkish, a political scientist owner seen on google ton says that some western powers that have been seeking to undermine turkey is the western media reflective voice of their governments. it's normal for such needs and they will issue to come out against if the western media objective, i will talk that the best that they would consider these facts. although turkey hasn't been a member of nato since 1952 western countries have never stopped their anti turkish activities. i mean, it was what kind of it is that the members of nato, like united states of america, france, germany, belgium, has to be them. and the finance and the others also, they never stop, not just the sport financially, but also finance for military terrorist organizations. like p k y, p g r q id. and the good enter is organization. also my personal opinion. as long as western countries attached to it, or just national interest, it make n

we will commit to turkey security, just as turkey will commit to olive security. we take terrorism seriously. we condemn terrorism in all its forms, and we are actively engaged in combating it. we are open to discussing all the concerns. turkey may have other nato nations, a confidence the turkeys reservations will be overcome. but for now, at least it looks like it may be some months before sweden and finland can take part in these baltic drills as nato allies. earlier i spoke to jonathan cats about nato's potential nordic enlargement. he's a senior fellow at the german marshall fund, and i asked him what is needed to shift to turkeys opposition to allowing finland to and sweden join nato. yeah, i sure i share the belief that, that, that these, the objections the tricky is put in place can be overcome. and of course, turkey has experience terrorism and loss of life. the p k. k. terrace organization is listed as the chair organization in the united states and elsewhere . so there's, there's some legitimate concerns in turkey side about is security concerns. and so

it's time to external turkey. they don't let it go to russia, but it go to china, let it go to long, good written turkish political scientist owner seen on a ton says that some western powers have been seeking to undermine turkey. is to western media, reflective voice of state governments. it's normal for such needs and they will issue to come out against if the western media objective, i will talk that the best that they would consider these facts. although turkey has been a member of nato since 1952 western countries have never stopped their anti turkish activities. i mean, it was what kind of for us that the members of nato, like united states of america, france, germany, belgium, has to be them. and the finance and the others also, they never stop, not just the sport financially, but also finest military terrorist organizations. like with peachy k y, p g r q id and the good enters organization. also, my personal opinion, as long as western countries attack, turkish touches, national interests, it make more sen

but so finland and sweden, he says, are not respecting turkey security concerns. he's accusing the 2 countries are providing sanctuary for a group that on crow blaine for carrying out the failed qu, attempt in 2016 and also full members of the militant group. kurdish group, p k. k, which is internationally designated as a terrorist organization and has been fighting a turkey state for several decades. encore also says that these cannon even countries are also providing refuge for supporters of the syrian kurdish group. the y p g, which has been for so fighting turkey, which isn't designated as a terrace group. now anchor expects movement expect change on these 2 countries stance and the message from prisoner on to day to his parliamentarians was very clear. he said, unless a change has thought they shouldn't st. diplomats here to change turkey's mind while dorian isn't president out of the one in danger of isolating turkey further within nato. nato. well, i've been present on police. he really isn't. of has a very strong position. he has a veto, old may 2 members

it's time to external turkey. they don't let it go to russia, go to china, let it go to ron, written, turkish political scientist to own or seen on. all ton says that some western powers have been seeking to undermine turkey. is to this, amid the voice of state governments. it's normal for such needs and they will issue to come out again. stuart, if the western media objective, i would hope that the best that they would consider these facts. although turkey hasn't been a member of nato since 1952 western countries have never stopped the anti turkish activities. i mean, it was what kind of it is that the members of nato, like united states of america, france, germany, belgium asked to be them and the finance and the others. also, they never stopped, not just the sport financially, but also financed for me to produce organizations like p j, k y, p g r, p y d, and the letters organization. also my personal opinion. as long as western countries, a doctor to national interest, it make no sense for turkey to be in the s

so turkey, the issue could actually be about us fighter jets. turkey was dropped from the f 35 advanced fighter jet development program in 2019 this was part of a us sanctions packet imposed on the country after it bought a russian air defense system. many believe anchor is now hoping to pressure the u. s. and to selling it new f. 16 fighter jets instead. an extremely controversial topic in washington. another issue in 2019 sweden halted weapons deliveries to turkey after it attacked kurdish people's defense units in northern syria and launched and offensive there. anamosa. turkish president, reject type err to one could considered this grounds enough to block the start of nato. accession talked for sweden and finland possibly destabilizing the alliance. and the process would, it would play into president putin's hands. it would send a signal that there is no unity with the nato. the wrong signal at precisely the wrong moment signifies insipid. in new york, u. s. secretary of state antony blinkin and his turkish counterpart may have looked shop of shallow met in an attempt to find the c

i think out think about iran and turkey. i think those 2 counties would be an important elias to the brakes because of their economic co, important in the world. and because they, they have natur alliance with current members. of the brakes were turkey, if it were to join, would also find itself in quite an interesting position not dissimilar to india, as a nato member with also close ties to russia. yeah, it's true, but i think that the turkey has in the special situation. whoa, whoa, turkey is a member of, of the, of the nature of so 30 has a, has a long history in relationship with therapy in union and united states. i think that i think turkey in the last 10 years, he's looking for more independence, a place in the road. so i think that turkey could be a very important ally to the brakes. of course, we're talking about is low and we're not talking. i repeat, we're not talking about a fast track alliance, but i think that in that there will politico the strategy, i think that to attract iran and turkey is very important t

as turkey has announced fresh military operations in syria. i'm joined now by a christian hell burg freelance journalist and middle east analyst who specializes in syria. simply put, kristen is turkey engaging an ethnic cleansing of northeastern syria. well, there are several 100 thousands of especially kurdish population that has fled due to turkish interventions during the last 2 years. be, have a very good documentation of what happened in a free and for example, in africa, the local militia that work closely with turkey. edwin's proxies that say inside syria, the syrian national army has committed crimes like confiscation of property, confiscation of homes, violations, torture. the destruction of religious shrines of edy, religious science for example. so there is proved that definitely current population is being driven out and the plant to resettle $1000000.00 syrians in these areas means that it's mainly arabs that will be said that they are because the vast majority of refugees inside turkey are from other regions. namely from the surr

it's time to external turkey. let it go to russia, go to china, let it go to turkish political scientist, owner seen on it goes on tongue, says that some western powers have been seeking to undermine turkey. is to western media, reflective voice of state governments. it's normal for such kneeves and evolution to come out against. if the western media objective, i will talk that the best that they would consider these facts. although turkey hasn't been a member of nato since 1952 western countries have never stopped their anti turkish activities. i mean, it was what kind of for us that the members of nato, like united states of america, france, germany, belgium, has to be them. and the finance and the others also, they never stop, not just the sport financially, but also for sport, military, terrorist organizations like p j, k y, p g r, q id, and the good enters organization. also, my personal opinion, as long as western countries attack turkish touches national interest, it make no sense for turkey to be in the sa

and the turkey's objections now was sending mixed signals. you can understand that i am a bit confused. at what we heard to 2 days ago was different than yesterday. we again heard the turkeys open to our membership, but it turned back to no. i think that what we need now is sir very clear answer. i'm prepared to have a new discussion with president her dawn about her when i got the latest from d, w 's, brussels bureau chief, alexandro, vonem, and in berlin, following the foreign ministers, nato meeting. so the apart press conference is still taking place is bring us up to speed on what's been said so far. so we know that sir turkey has some objections with regards to sweden and finland, sir, becoming a member, members of nato, and the turkish foreign minister. actually, he made it pretty clear what the expectations are from ankara. they want to continue talking with sweden and finland. they wanted them to drop their support for extremist kurdish group such as p k, k. and they want also wanted them to lifted their arms embargo against a turkey

they're confident the issue with turkey will be resolved soon. i heard almost across the board, very strong support for finland, nato joining the alliance if that's what they choose to do. ah, and i'm very confident that we will reach consensus on that. all 30 nato states have to approve the admission of new members a process that normally takes month. but ministers and berlin said they want to speed this up to prevent the so called grace period in which finland and sweden would not be protected by nato's article 5 weeks. as an attack on one is an attack on all. it was expected as soon as finland and sweden applied for nato membership. the process would be smooth and swift but turkey's position may now have flo days down. no one can say for sure when the toma flax will be added to this collection step, fasten al jazeera in berlin, sweden and finland have beneficial nato partners since 1994 and have taken part in several nato mission since the end of the cold war. let's take a look at what they need to become full members. made o candidates must b

another issue in 2019 sweden halted weapons deliveries to turkey. after it attacked kurdish people's defense units in northern syria and launched and offensive there. anamosa. turkish president, reject type err to one could considered this grounds enough to block the start of nato. accession talked for sweden and finland possibly destabilizing the alliance. and the process would, it would play into president putin's hands. it would send a signal that there is no unity with the nato, the wrong signal at precisely the wrong moment ignites of 5. since i pulled in new york, u. s. secretary of state antony blinkin and his turkish counterpart medlock shop of shallow met in an attempt to find a compromise there. shall charlemagne turkeys position clear your gear as being supporting the open door policy on nato even before this war. but with regard to this possible or candidate already, candidate countries, you know, we have also legitimate security concerns that they have been supporting her terrorist organizations. and they're also an expert restrictions

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i think out think about iran and turkey. i think those 2 counties would be an important elias to the brakes because of the economic co important in the world. and because they, they have natur alliance with current members of the brakes for turkey, if it were to join, would also find itself in quite an interesting position not dissimilar to india, as a nato member with also close ties to russia. yeah, it's true, but i think that the turkey has and the special situation. oh, turkey is a member of the of the, of the native. also turkey has a, has a long history in relationship with their opinion and united states. i think that i think turkey in the last 10 years, he's looking for more in depth and, and a place in the road. so i think the turkey could be a very important ally to the bricks. of course we're talking about is low and we're not talking i repeat, we're not talking about a fast track lions. but i think that in the political strategy, i think that to attract iran and turkey is very important to is trans griggs in the

turkey raised objections. ambassadors meeting in brussels failed to reach consensus on starting negotiations. with a promise the process would be swift and smooth, but turkey will have to be calm before the ratification can take place. here is more on why turkey objects to sweden and finland taking nato membership. >> this follows years of deteriorating relations between turkey and the west under president erdogan who has pursued an increasingly aggressive policy toward western countries. there are many people who question what turkey is still doing in nato. many believe it is kind of a cold war relic and doesn't really reflect modern geopolitical realities. so this kind of obstructionism is only going to increase those arguments. that being said, there is no question that turkey can veto the succession. it requires unanimous consent of all nato countries, so everyone is in a powerful position here. the thinking is he is using this opportunity to go after several individuals who have been granted asylum in swe

he's under major internal pressure within turkey. he wants to win the parliamentary and presidential elections next year and then moved within the society has turned against you in refugees because they are being blamed for that economic crisis within turkey. and the nationalist, a position within turkey even wants to send back more out on, wants to deliver on that he wants to be serious about sending the ceilings back so he will follow this plan. as you well know, or to one is threatening another military incursion into northeastern syria. do you think he will carry out that threat? i think he is decided to do so because it's not only about settling soon. refugees is. it's as well about rooting out a kurdish melisha called the white p g, the people's protection units that took it, considered to be a terrorist organization because of its affiliation with a p k. k. for the americans and the europeans, it's a strong ally in their fight against the islamic state. so the terrorist of mr. add one of the allies of the west in ne, syria, wh

so what do you think is more important to turkey? do you think it's maintaining strong relations with russia or it's nathan membership? and well, what need to wants from turkeys obedience and mediums would in our country's case mean to having our country divided actually because this is the natal plan for turkey. this is the us plan for turkey, dividing our country ethnically and the longest sector in line. so if b would accept that, if you would prefer natal membership over an alliance with russia, you would have to accept the constitutional change 1st concerning turkey, which introduces new, different regions along ethical lines and deepening sector and ethnical conflicts. this is no go. and this is just, this is far beyond the matter of gas or short term economic relations that we have russia. it's about turkey's existence about the, the black sea poets. the west is blaming russia for ukrainian ships with weights aboard being stuck in the black sea port. but turkey is saying the key of his minds, the water way, leaving ships unabl

we look at turkey's plans to reset the region. ah a michael ok welcome. ukrainians. officials say russian forces have now entered the city of severity and ask after days of intense, showing the eastern city has become the focus of moscow's push to capture all of the dumbass region. president, val, autumn is zalinski, said russian bombs had destroyed almost all the city's critical infrastructure and damage. most buildings. meanwhile, on sunday, zalinski made his 1st official visit outside the capital to meet troops on the front line near hall. keith, assessing the damage with his own eyes, ukraine's president visited the wall ravaged region of hockey. ukraine has pushed back the russian offensive here, leaving behind ruins in his 1st official trip out of cave since the russian invasion. zelinski also met troops have been fighting on the front lines a little bit below. what i want to thank each of you for your service. you risk your life for all of us and for our state. thank you for defending the independence of our country. it wil

well, what it means as a citizen, say, is a nightmare in turkey. basically this is the official figure which puts turkey the 6th position in the highest inflation league. and this is the official figure. so there are many express today in turkey, analysts and economists saying that the real life inflation is much higher, especially in the food prices. that's all that obviously is backbreaking 4 or can classes in turkey. so it is indeed a nightmare. a lot of the economists on the say that president add ons economic policies. we've mentioned it earlier. he insist that interest rate should be cut instead of raised, like most economists would think to contain this inflation. do we see any sign that he's starting to to break away from, from that policy? and now that inflation is rising so much, not at the moment. no, because they are invested in government president that on himself is invested very heavily on this low rate policy. so this has started, but his agreed towards the end of last year. so the main principal was that lower interest rates, highe

the turkeys concerns can be addressed. finland and sweden are working directly with turkey to do this, but we're also talking to the turks to try to help facilitate president biden will meet with his finish and swedish counterparts at the white house on thursday. kristin salumi al jazeera, the united nations, the earlier feminine sweden submitted their formal applications to join made hope that ambassadors handed letters to the chief of military alliance. jen st oldenburg . both countries have been neutral for a long time. but russia's invasion of ukraine are rapidly shifted public opinion in favor of joining nato. i think at this stage, we have to keep our eyes on the ball and that is of very smooth and fast ratification of our membership in every nato, amanda country. so this is what we are focusing now, and i think are most important. her job in nato is to defend our own country, our own region. now also making sure that the whole nordic nordic region is secure . or company 5, nato members, sherland borders with russia. they include the entire eastern frontiers of estonia and latvi

it's time to external turkey. they don't let it go to russia, go to china, let it go to ron. written. turkish, a political scientist owner seen on a ton says that some western powers have been seeking to undermine turkey. is to western media reflective voice. so still, governance is normal for such needs and evolution to come out against. if the western media objective, i will talk that the best that they would consider these facts. although turkey hasn't been a member of nato since 1952 western countries have never stopped their anti turkish activities. i mean, it was what kind of for us that the members of nato, like united states of america, france, germany, belgium, has to be them. and the finance and the others also, they never stop, not just the sport financially, but also for sport, military peers. organizations like with peachy k y, p g r, p y, v, and the good enters organization. also, my personal opinion, as long as western countries attack turkish it urges national interest. it make no sense for turkey

apparently they are coming to turkey on monday. are they coming to try and convince us, sorry to wear yourselves out here above anything else during this process, we cannot say yes to those who impose sanctions on turkey. on joining nato, which is a security organization, neither country sweden or finland has an open, clear stance against terrorist organizations. told on the west might not even realize how deep the tensions between turkey and nato have been running. that's according to turkish university, professor burris, i'll be delhi less has not yet realize how big the conflict is. but gradually the pressure from the u. s. and nate will increase because there is little light time left for the natal mother summit and also the u. s. at nato made say, let's accept feel, and susan as members of nato and then we will solve your problems. i have to say this is unacceptable solution for charging nato itself, one civilian and feel, and a membership more than these countries. because natal wants to close baltic sea to russia by turning

but so finland and sweden, he says on not respecting turkey security concerns. he's accusing the 2 countries are providing sanctuary for a group that uncross blaine for carrying out the failed qu, attempt in 2016. and also 4 members of the militant group, the kurdish group, p k. k, which is internationally designated as a terrorist organization and has been fighting a turkey state for several decades. encore also says that these cannon even countries are also providing refuge for supporters of the syrian kurdish group. the y p g, which has been full so fighting turkey, which isn't designated the terrace group. now encore expects movement expect change on these 2 countries stance and the message from prisoner on to day to his parliamentarians was very clear. he said, unless a change has thought they shouldn't st. diplomats here to change turkey's mind while dorian isn't president out of the one in danger of isolating turkey further within nato. nato. well, i've been present on police. he really isn't. of has a very strong position. he has a veto, old nato members

and that turkey's objections now was sending mixed signals. you can understand that i am a bit confused at what we heard. 2 days ago was different. then yesterday we again heard that sir. turkeys opened to our membership, but it turned back to no. i think that what we need now is sir. very clear answer. i'm prepared to have a new discussion with president her dawn about her new the problems he has raised azure i spoke to d. w. brussels bureau chief alexandra vaughan, norman, who's in following the meetings in berlin. so we know that a turkey has some objections with regards to sweden and finland, sir, becoming a member, members of nato, and the turkish foreign minister. actually, he made it pretty clear what the expectations are from ankara. they want to continue talking with sweden and finland. they want them to drop their support for extremist kurdish group such as p k, k. and they want also wanted them to lifted their arms embargo against a turkey. and we have to notice here that it's that only fin london, sweden. there is a number of europ

as turkey has announced, fresh military operations in syria, miss. and i am don't now by kristin harrisburg, a freelance journalist, and middle east analyst who specializes in syria. good to have you with us. and simply put, kristen is target engaging and ethnic cleansing of northeastern syria. turkish interventions have displeased several 100 thousands of people close to the areas to the northern areas and northern syria, mainly coach population, but as well as syrians in east since 2016. so the property and the land of these people has been confiscated by chalk is proxy there, which is the syrian national army. it's a group of extremists in islamist, malicious. so displacing these kurdish people, mainly kurdish people and now wanting to resettle mainly era refugees from turkey means that they are really trying to change the demographic realities along the border. and this will create more social unrest within the searing society that is already deeply divided after 10 years of war and violence. and how likely is it that president ad tuan will get a

also coming off on the program, turkey president once again expresses his opposition to finland, done sweden's session to nato, accusing the countries of supporting terrorism that says, a bid also faces some internal opposition. we speak to a finish journalist to burden the military alliance flag in the center of health and medical devices. and then in the media now completely under the control of make time to finish media is completely one sided about night. but in fact, the most serious problem in finland is social met with joe by the states, the u. s. is ready to intervene militarily. if china takes military action against taiwan on a group of pro russian hackers, declare war on governments, they see as unfriendly to moscow. we speak to kill net about their goals. we want to open people's eyes to what's happening. the u. s. has placed a huge battle ukraine and he's afraid to lose what is driving more and more countries into this conflict with, for your counseling program from across the globe today. welcome to moscow into the world news update on r t. i'm you know, new russian undo

i think out think about iran and turkey. i think those 2 counties would be an important elias to the brakes because of their economic co importance in the world. and because they, they have natural alliance with the current members of the brakes for turkey, if it were to join, would also fund itself in quite an interesting position not dissimilar to india, as a nato member with also close ties to russia. yeah, it's true, but i think that the turkey has in the special situation. whoa, whoa, turkey is a member of, of the, of the nature of po, 30 has a, has a long history in relationship with therapy in union and united states. i think that i think turkey in the last 10 years, he's looking for more independence, a place in the road. so i think that turkey could be a very important ally to the brakes. of course, we're talking about is low and we're not talking. i repeat, we're not talking about a fast track alliance, but i think that in their politico, the strategy, i think that to attract iran and turkey is very important to is

we will commit to turkey security, just as turkey will commit to olive security. we take terrorism seriously. we condemn terrorism in all its forms, and we are actively engaged in combating it. we are open to discussing all the concerns. turkey may have other nato nations, a concert in the turkey's reservations will be overcome. but for now at least it looks like it may be some months before sweden and finland can take part in these baltic drills as nato allies. and he has a quick look at some other news. italy and sweden have joined a string of european countries and the u. s. in reporting their 1st cases of monkey pox, the red as ease normally only occurs in central and western africa. the world health organization is calling for vigorous contact tracing, but officials stress the risks to the general population is low. and spain's former king juan carlos is visiting his homeland after nearly 2 years of self imposed exile, crowds turned out to see him. the 84 year old abdicated after a series of financial scandals. the royal family says he will return to his home

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still hasn't forgotten about one turkey signed the deal. the purchase rushes as 400 air defense systems back in 2017. when you can't win by traditional rules, go around them. there was a lot of thought given toward banishing turkey from nato anyway, especially after president air dawn bought russian s 400 air defense systems from moscow 3 years ago. perhaps now is precisely the moment simply to stand up to these loan strong men who have managed to burrow their way deeply into democratic institutions. and while nato was on the hunt for new members, turkey's disagreement with washington haven't even led column as in canada to call for it to be expelled from the alliance altogether. expelled, took it from nato, that should resolve multiple challenges until now. turkey has been a 5th column of islamism embedded within the west to undermine it. that sentiment can also be found in europe, where a guest on polish tv argue that turkey would be better off and in alliance with russia. next time, turkey let it go. go to china, let it go too good. now,

it's time to external turkey. they don't let it go to russia, but it go to china, let it go to spectrum scientists and i sit down because those have believe some less than powers are seeking to undermine taking is to western men. the voice of state governments is normal for such needs and they will issue to come again to start. if the western media objective, i will talk that the less that they would consider these facts. although turkey has been a member of nato since 1952 western countries are never stopped the anti turkish activities. i mean, it was what kind of for the members of nato, like united states of america, france, germany, belgium, sweden, and finland and others. also, they never stopped, not just the sport financially, but also for sport, military peers. organizations like with peachy k, y, p g r, p y, v, and the good enters organization. also, my personal opinion, as long as western countries attacked a national interest, it make no sense for turkey to be in the same earlier with these companies. a

s. congress to recall numerous pass grievances with neighboring turkey. from an aerospace of violation to the invasion of cyprus, he called for the legislature to nicks a bag in administration, deal to sell advanced weaponry to turkey denouncing it as quote, source of instability. the last thing that natal needs out of time, one of focus is on helping ukraine defeat russia's. aggression is another source of instability on nato's south eastern flank and ask you to take this into account when you make defense procurement decisions concerning the eastern mediterranean. the greek leader has been concerned about biden's proposal to approve $400000000.00 worth of weapons for turkey, including cutting edge missiles and equipment for anchors fleet of f. 16 fighter jets of the same time greece is processing a deal to buy the latest f $35.00 jets and i want to beats. but grace can be hardly called the only breaking point in relations between nato and turkey. as the main agenda in brussels right now is to accept finland and sweden into the military block, but on cra

it's time stone, turkey. they don't let it go to russia. go to china, let it go to take a special scientist and because they'll, sam, believe somebody empowers are seeking to undermine taking is to western media selective warsaw state governance. it's normal for such needs and they will issue to come out against if the western media objective, i will talk to the less that they would consider these facts. although turkey hasn't been a member of nato since 1952 western countries, 7 never stopped the anti turkish activities. i mean, it was what kind of for us that the members of nato, like united states of america, france, germany, belgium, to be them and the finance and the others also, they never stop, not just the sport financially, but also for meeting terrorist organizations like p j k y, p g r, p y v, and the letters organization also my personal opinion. as long as western countries, a doctor to purchase national interest, it make no sense for turkey to be in the same earlier with these companies. as i mean, the church in nor more share

what's, what does turkey want out of this meeting? right, so, and gross main demands are for the nordic countries to hold support for kurdish millison or groups present on their, on the nordic, a territory. and they also are want them to live their bands and some a sales of arms to turkey, add ons, or is obviously using the current war in ukraine to raise his case, as he knows or how important it is for nato to stay united against vladimir putin plus adon is also facing an election with in his own country and his paws are really down. so he definitely wants to show strength to his own people yet. and this is not his 1st, her argument with nato allies. so clearly he is not bothered about his country being isolated within the alliance. oh, well i wouldn't go so far, but i think it is fair to say that he is often playing kind of both sides. what do i mean with that? a, for example, he fights with russia and syria are on the one hand, but supports ukraine against prudence. army. so why does he do that? because he wants to be seen as kind

but turkey's position may now have slow this down. no one can say for sure when the tomo flex will be added to this collection step. fasten al jazeera in berlin, sweden and finland have beneficial nato partners since 1994 and have taken part in several nato missions since the end of the cold war. let's take a look at what they need to become full members. made o candidates must be democracies, have an open market economy and be able to contribute militarily to the alliance, finland, and sweden check all those boxes, have strong militaries, and sweden is a major supplier of weapons. once the application goes through the parliaments of all 30 nato countries, need to approve new members. finland says it already meets nato as target of spending 2 percent of his g. d. p on defense, sweden expects to reach that by 2028. ah. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in finland's capital, helsinki. owen mcnamara, visiting research fellow at the finish institute of international affairs in brussels. in belgium, theresa fallon, director

what does turkey want out of this meeting? >> and cara's main demands are for the nordic countries to halt work for -- on the northern territory, and they want them to lift bans on sales of arms to turkey. they are using the current war in ukraine to raise his case, as he knows how important it is for nato to stay united against vladimir putin. plus, erdogan is facing an election in his own country and his polls are really down, so he definitely wants to show strength to his own people. phil: this is not his first argument with nato allies, so he is not worried about his country being isolated within the alliance. >> i wouldn't go so far, but i think it is fair to say he is often playing both sides. what do i mean with that? for someone who fights with russia and syria on the one hand , but supports ukraine against putin's army. why does he not? he wants to be seen as an indispensable mediator, which allows him, after all, to keep doing business with everyone he wants to. phil: so is the thinking that turkey will really stop s

he has spoken with turkey in mind in the sense that turkey is already objecting to the situation, so russia doesn't have to come out and repeat that. in other words, pressure can be magnanimous and say it is nothing to russia. mark: magnanimous is not a word many people use about russia right now. thank you very much for giving us that insight and analysis on the issue. thank you very much indeed. the u.k. says it intends to make changes to the post brexit deal, the northern ireland protocol. the foreign secretary said downing street still wants to talk about a negotiated solution with that you -- with the e.u. it looks like they want to press on and change its own protocol. >> making a u-turn from the very agreement it signed, the u.k. government has announced a new law to alter the northern ireland protocol. >> our preference remains a negotiated solution with thee.u. , and in parallel with the negotiation being introduced, we remain open to further talks, if we can achieve the same outcome through negotiated settlement. >> the northern ireland protocol is at the heart of a politic

or the gone on turkey are, are quite isolated on right now. you know there strategically very important oper, western strategic interest in ukraine us, ter, theresa mentioned. but of course it is not in arrogant interest to be isolated within nato either. and if i could also follow up with you, if things are able to get back on track now if things are able to be smoothed over when it comes to turkeys. objections, how long might the accession to nato take when it comes to finland and sweden? so what we're looking at now, and in the next week or 2, we're looking at phil and, and sweden filing their applications for nato membership. it is likely then that spin london, sweden will be issued an invitation to join nato at ne hose madrid somewhere in june. and from there, depending on different parliamentary procedures and different parliamentary protocols, because of course, nato is in the lines of consensus. all 30 nasal member states will have to agree. there is no fixed time limit on, on this. but the most ambitious or fast track our perception o