bush barbara bush. yes. i did a biography of barbara bush. called the matriarch barbara bush nancy pelosi and now barbara walters one. they're complicated. to their consequential they had an impact. and three no good biography of them. so a lot of you know, yeah, there's kind. and feel on that. yeah. hi my question. that that item that you talking to speaker pelosi about in the ninth interview. what was that item actually in in your included in your book. was yeah and what? what was that? so not gonna poke the bear by telling what it was but you know, i'll tell you this. this actually makes me look smart when potentially could make me look stupid. so i'll tell this story when when i was when i was starting both books. i didn't. contact the subject of the books beforehand to see if they would cooperate. which i think potentially could be very stupid. both of them cooperated. i did interviews with barbara bush through the last six months of her life. and then the 10 interviews with pelosi for this book an

, of the major nay pelosi no barbara walters and they are complicated, and inconsequential they had an impact, three know good biography them. >> is there's open field on them. >> my question is the items that when you were talking to speaker policyhe about, was that item including both. >> its w was yes. >> and what was it. >> i'm not quite about the bear telling what it was but until you, this actually makes me look smart, when potentially could make me feel stupid so i will tell the story and one of the starting both books, i didn't contact the subject of the book to see if they would cooperate which i think potentially could be very stupid both of them cooperatedh i did interviews wih barbara bush and then the ten interviews with pelosi for this book and then an 11th interview for the hardback for the paperback which is him out a couple weeks ago the reason that i did not ask him if they would cooperate is that i thought that if they said no, mcchicken out and i thought if they said yes, my think they had some control over what i wrote him became to them and i i said, i signed a co

and i mentioned that barbara bush had passed away. and ambassador young without pausing or leaving the stage offered a beautiful prayer of remembrance for mrs. bush because that is the type of person he is. so please join me and welcoming ernie set suggs ambassador andrew young. [applause] [applause] i think at this point it might be fitting since his birthday was on saturday if you will join me ♪ ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ ♪ happy birthday ambassador young ♪ ♪ happy birthday to you. [applause] [cheering] [applause] fix thank you tony. this is crazy because i have been out in the audience many times for these events. i have stepped on this stage many times as a moderator. i've never been here to talk w about a book i have written. i appreciate you all coming out here.s when toni called me and said you wanted to do this i i was excit. then he called me and said it was sold out. i had the chance book tv the cameras are there and then that sold out. this is crazy i have never been this popular bef

i know people know about barbara bush's work with literacy. i think a lot of people remember how important lady bird johnson's work with the houston plant. she was -- in fact, now that a lot of our roadsides in the united states are now planted with wild flowers is really because of ladybird johnson's interest with that. i think, in the, and we've always come from the interest and passions of the first ladies. >> that was laura bush, first lady of texas, and wife of presidential candidate george w. bush and a spring 2000 c-span interview. the bushes moved into the white house the following january. you will hear laura bush, in her own voice, here in american history tv. how she experienced her first years as first lady featuring footage from c-span video library. first, just eight months into their term, the former librarian and teacher was transformed into a wartime first lady by the terrorist attacks of september 11th 2001. she called with reporters on -- after visiting pentagon victims in the hospital. this is laura bush in her own words. >

always we have two very revered first ladies in our state my mother-in-law barbara bush and lady bird johnson, and i i know people know about barbara bush's work with literacy, and i think a lot of people remember how important lady bird johnson's work with the environment and the use of native plants is she was very active in the highway beautification act 1964. and in fact now that a lot of our roadsides in the united states are now planted with wildflowers really is because the lady bird johnson's interest in that so i think in the end we always benefit from the interest in the passions of first ladies. that was laura bush first lady of texas and wife of presidential candidate george w bush and a spring 2000 c-span interview. the bushes moved into the white house the following january. you'll hear laura bush in her own voice here on american history tv how she experienced her eight years as first lady featuring footage from c-span's video library first. just eight months into their term the former librarian and teacher was transformed into a wartime first lady by the terrorist atta

and i know people know about barbara bush's work with literacy. and i think a lot of people remember how important lady bird johnson's work with the environment and native plants is. she was -- in fact, now that a lot of our roadsides in the united states are now planted with wild flowers is really because of ladybird johnson's interest with that. i think, in the, and we've always come from the interest and passions of the first ladies. >> that was laura bush, first lady of texas, and wife of presidential candidate george w. bush in a spring 2000 c-span interview. the bushes moved into the white house the following january. you will hear laura bush, in her own voice, here in american history tv, how she experienced her eight years as first lady featuring footage from c-span video library. first, just eight months into their term, the former librarian and teacher was transformed into a wartime first lady by the terrorist attacks of september 11th, 2001. she called with reporters on september 12th after visiting pentagon victims in the >> the people

>> i believe it was barbara bush. >> it was barbara bush, who loved to swim. and i think she had to be very careful when she wore her white terry cloth bathrobe, he got by without anybody seeing her. [laughter] i remember old pictures of the white house showing they had a greenhouse or a conservatoriesome. >> yeah. so the -- conservatory? >> yeah. so the greenhouses and the conservatory are both 9th century -- 19th century aspects of the white house and the white house grounds. the conservatory was a private space rather for the president and first lady, their invited guests, and it was this beautiful, kind of exotic place. it was, and it was located on top of the west terrace, you know, the west colonnade. and it was accessed through what was at one time president grant's billiard room. and the greenhouses were just exactly what it sounds like, a series of working buildings that produced camellias, ferns, orchids. there were actually two rose houses at its peak, and so, again, with two rose houses, it shows you where the priority's always been for presidentia

and during that program i found out that former first lady barbara bush had passed away while the program was underway. and so we got to the end of the program and i thanked catherine and i thanked ambassador young and then i mentioned that barbara bush had passed away. and ambassador young without pausing or leaving the stage offered a beautiful prayer of remembrance for mrs. bush. because that's the type of person he is. so please join me in welcoming ernie suggs dong bermudez and ambassador, andrew young. and i think at this point it might be fitting since his birthday was on saturday if you will join me in happy birthday to you. happy birthday to you. happy birthday, ambassador young. happy birthday to you. ernie thank you. thank you very much. thank you, tony. and this is this is crazy because i've been out in the audience many times. for these events. i've sat on this stage many times as a moderator, but i'd never in my wildest dreams. thought i'd be here. talking about a book that i've written. so i appreciate you all coming out here. and when tony told me that when tony called me

barbara bush has recently said that she was pro-choice, while her husband wasn't, was that similar situation for you and president reagan, agreeing to disagree but not public? >> why did i know this was gonna come up. [laughs] i just knew it was gonna come up. well, i don't know where you put me really, i'm against abortion, i don't believe in abortion on the other hand i believe in a woman's choice. so, it puts me somewhere in the middle but i don't know what you call that. [laughs]. >> also during the period the united states and the soviet union -- gorbachev first game in power after --, and i don't know -- >> everybody kept dying on us [laughs] >> you felt very strongly about the opportunity there for friendship between your husband and gorbachev, i'm wondering if you could --, you had in a sense of personal influence may have resulted in a fact? >> well, it seemed to me so silly, to have these two huge countries here added not have them talking to each other, trying to get together as they say, everybody kept eyeing on is on the other side. so, we needed to wait for somebody to live lon

barbara bush has recently said that she was pro-choice, while her husband wasn't. was that similar situation for you and president reagan, agreeing to disagree but not in public? >> why did i know this was going to come up. [laughs] i just knew it was going to come up. well, i don't know where you put me really, i'm against abortion, i don't believe in abortion. on the other hand i believe in a woman's choice. so, it puts me somewhere in the middle but i don't know what you call that. [laughs]. >> also during the period the united states and the soviet union -- gorbachev first game to power after chernenko and andropov, and i don't know -- >> everybody kept dying on us [laughter] >> you felt very strongly about the opportunity there for friendship between your husband and gorbachev, i'm wondering if you could --, you had in a sense of personal influence may have resulted in a political effect? >> well, it seemed to me so silly, to have these two huge countries here added not have them talking to each other, trying to get together as they say, everybody kept eyeing

bush, a grandmother figure for the country, tough love when we needed it and word of encouragement. now juan from germany. >> i would like to know your favorite 4th of july tradition. trey: this will not surprise anyone, it is a 4 person golf tournament here. you are probably wondering what july 4 has to do with golf. people do dress in patriotic colors there are flags abounding, there is this, i have played with the same three guys for about a quarter of a century. we're allowed order, we don't -- we're a lot older, we're still together, different, changed in many ways but still together that is a metaphor for the country. things change, times can be tough, but we stick together. trey: coming up is the future of america in the hands of generation z . if it is, i better figure out what it is. hailey is joining us next on "sunday night in america." trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america," generations z represents those born between 1997, and 2012, this generation which includes one of my children, will soon become largest votes bloc in america, they have been turns out to pol

of the events and issues of of the reagan years now barbara bush has recently said that she was pro-choice while her husband wasn't was that a similar situation for you and president reagan agreeing to disagree but not public or why did i know this was going to come up? i just know was gonna come up. well i don't know where you'd put me really. i'm against abortion. i don't i don't believe in abortion on the other hand. i believe in a woman's choice, so it puts me somewhere in the middle. but i don't know what you call that. that's the best way i can answer it. and also during the during the period united states and soviet union. well when gorbachev first came into power after chenango and and drop off and i don't know who else was everybody kept dying on us. you felt very strongly about the opportunity there. for friendship between your husband and gorbachev i'm wondering if you could i mean you had an in a sense again a personal influence which may have resulted in a political effect. well, it just seemed to me. so silly to have these two huge countries. here and not we have them talking

of the events and issues of of the reagan years now barbara bush has recently said that she was pro-choice while her husband wasn't was that a similar situation for you and president reagan agreeing to disagree but not public or why did i know this was g to come up? i just know was gonna come up. well i don't know where you'd put me really. i'm against abortion. i don't i don't believe in abortion on the other hand. i believe in a woman's choice, so it puts me somewhere in the middle. but i don't know what you call that. that's the best way i can answer it. and also during the during the period united states and soviet union. well when gorbachev first came into power after chenango and and drop off and i don't know who else was everybody kept dying on us. you felt very strongly about the opportunity there. for friendship between your husband and gorbachev i'm wondering if you could i mean you had an in a sense again a personal influence which may have resulted in a political effect. well, it just seemed to me. so silly to have these two huge countries. here and not we have them talking to

there was an easy caricature created of hillary clinton and of nancy reagan, of barbara bush, a view, of all first ladies. how wide was the gap between the price perception of you and who you really were? who you felt should be conveyed to the press. >> i remember, after jimmy was elected, there was a whole page cartoon in the washington post of the carter family, jimmy's mother, and me. we had haystacks, we had a straw hats, and there was a straw between our teeth. i went from that to being a steel magnolia. i thought that was pretty good because steele is tough and magnolia's southern. then, i was fuzzy. i was fuzzy for a while. and then, i was most powerful. i had a full range of images. i didn't think i was any of that. i was proud i was from the south. i hope i was tough. i didn't think i was fuzzy. when we came to washington, i knew it i wanted to do. i had worked on mental health problems while jimmy was at governor. i had been the governor's wife. i had had my project. i had entertained ambassadors instead of heads of state. i had entertained georgia legislators instead of con

bush, view of all of the first ladies. how wide was the gap between the price perception of you and who you really were, who you felt should be conveyed to the press? >> i remember, after jimmy was elected, there was a whole page cartoon in that washington post with the carter family. there were haystacks. we had on straw hats, and there was straw between our teeth. then, i went from that to being a steel magnolia. i also thought that was pretty good because steele is tough, and magnolia's southern. then i was fuzzy. i was fuzzy for a while. then, i was most powerful. i had a full range of images. i didn't think i was any of that. i was proud i was from the south. i hope i was tough. i didn't think i was fuzzy. when we came to washington, i knew it i wanted to do. i had worked on mental health problems while jimmy was governor. i had been the governor's wife, i had had my projects, i had entertained ambassadors instead of heads of state. i had entertained georgia legislators instead of congress people. there was a lot that

bush of you of all of the first ladies. how much how wide was the gap between the the press perception of you and and who you really were who you you felt should be conveyed to the press. i remember after jimmy was elected. there was a whole page cartoon in the washington post with the carter family. jim is mother me. and there were haystacks we had on straw hats and there was drove between ideas. from that to being the steel magnolia and but i thought that was pretty good because steel is tough and magnolia southern. and then i was fuzzy. that was fussy for a while. and then i was most powerful. so i had a full range of images. i didn't think i was any of that. i was proud. i was from the south. i hope i was tough. i didn't think i was fuzzy when we came to washington. i knew what i wanted to do. i had worked on mental health problems wajima was governor. i had been the governor's wife. i have had my projects. i had entertained ambassadors instead of heads of state had entertained, georgia legislators instead of congress p

bush, and now to me, we can gain a new appreciation, not just of first ladies, but also of women's history and presidential politics in the course of our great country's history. from their political role to the public image to their private lives, each first lady has shaped her position based on her own past experiences, interests, and aspirations. i have certainly been inspired by the women who came before me, and i have learned so much in reading about their lives. i often have hope that more americans could learn more about these women, and not just see them as stereotypes or cardboard cutouts because each of them had a rich history which she brought to the white house. and, many of them, i think, would be quite surprising, even to people today, to read what they wrote, to read what they said, and you understand the role they played in influencing their husbands and the course of american politics. actually, i take some comfort in that because -- [laughter] -- because, it is probably true to say that anything which has ever been said about any of us was said about one of the other of u

abelia furniture silver and china from martha, washington to barbara bush and now to me we can gain a new appreciation not just a first ladies but also of women's history and presidential politics in the course of our great countries history. from their political role to their public image to their private lives. each first lady has shaped her position based on her own past experiences interests and aspirations. i have certainly been inspired by the women who came before me and i have learned so much in reading about their lives. i often have hoped that more americans could learn more about these women and not just see them as stereotypes or cardboard cutouts because each of them had a rich history, which she brought to the white house and many of them i think would be quite surprising even to people today to read what they wrote to read what they said and to understand the roles. they played in influencing their husbands and the course of american politics. actually. i take some comfort in that because it is probably true to say that everything which has ever been said about any us w

bush, and now to me, we can gain a new appreciation, not just of first ladies, but also of women's history, and presidential politics in the course of our great country's history. from their political role, to the public image, to their private lives, each first lady has shaped her position based on her own past experiences, interests, and aspirations. i have certainly been inspired by the women who came before me, and i have learned so much in reading about their lives. i often have hope that more americans could learn more about these women's, and not just see them as stereotypes, or a cardboard cutout. because, each of them had a rich history which she brought to the white house. and, many of them, i think, would be quite surprising, even to people today, to read what they wrote, to read what they said, and you understand the role they played in influencing their husbands and the course of american politics. actually, i take some comfort in that. [laughs] because, it is probably true to say that anything which has ever been said about any of us was said about one of the other of us. >>

>> barbara bush loved to swim, she had to be very careful to make sure when she wore her white terry cloth bathrobe down the colonnade she got by without anybody seeing. i remember old pictures of the white house showing they had a greenhouse or a conservatory. >> the greenhouses and the conservatory are both 19th century aspects of the white house and of the white house grounds. the conservatory was a private space for the president and their invited guests. it was a beautiful, exotic place. it was located on top of the west terrace. it was accessed through what was at one time president grant's billiard room. the greenhouses were exactly when it sounds like, a series of working buildings that produced camelias, ferns, orchids, there were actually two rows houses at its peak. and tomorrow's houses show where the priority has always been for presidential flowers. these were not small enterprises, they cover significant acreage and they were located where the modern-day west wing is. in fact, they were removed in 1902. >> he ran a family space inside the white house. six kids underfoo

>> barbara bush left to swim, she had to be very careful to make sure when she wore her white terry cloth bathrobe down the colonnade she got by without anybody seeing. i remember old pictures of the white house showing they had a greenhouse or a conservatory. the greenhouses and the conservatory are both 19th century aspects of the white house and of the white house grounds, the conservatory was a private space for the president or they're invited guests. it was a beautiful, exotic place. it was located on top of the west terrace. it was accessed through what was at one time the president billiard room. the greenhouses were exactly when it sounds like, a series of working buildings that produced chameleons, ferns, orchids, there were actually two rows houses at its peak. and tomorrow's houses show where the priority has always been for presidential flowers. these were not small enterprises, they cover significant acreage and they were located where the modern-day west wing is. in fact, they were removed in 1902. >> he ran a family space inside the white house. six kids underfoot. >> thos

i think of first ladies in modern times the only other person with similar preparation was barbara bush who also had served eight years in the role call second lady had been the wife of a member of congress somebody who had run for office over and over again. there's no definition. like there's nothing there's nothing there's no job definition. there's no paycheck that comes with it. did joe biden arrive in the white house with a clear idea about what she wanted to do in this role? absolutely. because again, she had been thinking about being first lady during those previous campaigns that never went anywhere so she had an idea of what she wanted to do and even before she became first lady. she took some steps to resurrect the military families initiative that she had worked on with michelle obama, and she knew that she would have a platform to promote those issues cancer research education those types of issues that she's worked on her whole life. i also think one of the things that was really important to her was to come in and continue to work and you know, it's funny for those of us

i think of first ladies in modern times the only other person with similar preparation was barbara bush who also had served eight years in the role call second lady had been the wife of a member of congress somebody who had run for office over and over again. there's no definition. like there's nothing there's nothing there's no job definition. there's no paycheck that comes with it. did joe biden arrive in the white house with a clear idea about what she wanted to do in this role? absolutely. because again, she had been thinking about being first lady during those previous campaigns that never went anywhere so she had an idea of what she wanted to do and even before she became first lady. she took some steps to resurrect the military families initiative that she had worked on with michelle obama, and she knew that she would have a platform to promote those issues cancer research education those types of issues that she's worked on her whole life. i also think one of the things that was really important to her was to come in and continue to work and you know, it's funny for those of us

barbara bush, and the bushes loved bill clinton. they may not have loved the carters as much. so it was, you know, a real challenge for us but also fascinating -- a look into a role that enforcement, enforcement judgments going to take some part, i hope to. >> so it's interesting. you had to do all of the first ladies so you didn't get the pick and choose like aaron and kathy did. but you also had this problem, i think, if i remember correctly, maybe at one point the idea was to do a first lady a week. but then you found yourself you, and susan, at the time, hampered by the lack of material about some first ladies, especially, you know, the ones in the 18 hundreds. now james buchanan was a was a bachelor and so he had his daughter do the work. so there were some that we combined a couple of first people who played the role of first lady in the show and weren't the official first lady and i know we talked about eleanor roosevelt being the first official first lady who defined the role, but i think katherine you might also say that valley madison may have been the one who starte

bush and the bushes love bill clinton. it may not have loved the carters as much so it's a it was a you know a real challenge for us, but also fascinating looking into a role that the first man is first gentleman is going to take at some point. i hope soon. so it's interesting. it's so beautiful. yeah, you had to do all of the first ladies so you didn't get to pick and choose like like aaron and kathy did but you also have this problem. i think if i remember correctly maybe at one point the idea was to do a first lady a week. but then you found yourself you and susan at the time hampered by the lack of material about some first ladies, especially, you know, the ones in the 1800s. there were some in the first half of the series that were a little bit tougher. i mean thomas jefferson wasn't married when he was in the white house. now james buchanan was a was a bachelor and so he had his daughter do the work. so there were some that we combined a couple of first people who played the role of first lady in the show and weren't

cortez, cori bush, and congresswoman barbara lee among those arrested. barbara lee is joining me now. obviously free after having been arrested. glad you are well, congresswoman. thanks for joining us on this. you and i spoke immediately after the overturning of roe outside the supreme court, a day after it was, i believe almost a month to the day, let me ask this, what have democrats done so far to make progress in the last four weeks? >> well, thanks a lot. nice seeing you again. thank you for having me. we've done quite a bit, but you know, yasmin, first of all, i have to say, we've been waiting for the state, we knew it's coming. so, we were prepared even before the decision. first of all, we passed the women's health protection act, led by our great leader, -- who sponsored the bill in the house for the second time. we passed it last year, now we passed it an additional time a couple weeks ago. now it is in the senate, we're hoping that the movement really lets the senators know who we are going to vote for, that this broad movement about taking awa

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it's my pleasure to welcome the honorable barbara hackman franklin. she served as the 29th us secretary of commerce under president george hw bush and was the second woman to hold that position 20 years earlier secretary franklin led the first governmental effort to recruit women into high-level government jobs as a staff assistant to president nixon and effort which resulted in nearly quadrupling the number of women in those positions. her story is told in a book by lee stout entitled a matter of simple justice the untold story of barbara franklin and a few good women and the secretary will be available and signing copies of that book in the library's gift shop immediately after this program. she served on the boards of 14 public companies and was one of the first women graduates of the harvard business school. in fact time magazine named her one of the 50 women who made american political history. secretary is joined this morning in conversation by heath hardage lee and historian curator and biographer who is currently at work on the first commercia

what marina has made a start with the bush that like tanya and her children, olga also comes from moscow. she was a successful business woman. they are producing high tech wheelchairs after she took part in anti war protests. the authorities put pressure on her and her family . she gave everything up, but she doesn't want to stay in georgia. i was, you see the plaintiff. but there's a notice up here in the corridor saying that 20 percent of georgia is occupied and russians are therefore not welcome here. but i'm not ashamed of being russian. i didn't vote for this president and his government. i'm not responsible for their actions. those with the bush is ready in time for lunch. tanya can imagine living for a long time in georgia with her children. ideally, she'd work as a nutritionist for children. emma, but there's as long as it's 8. i can help mother say a to which would also give me a big list. you said it might not work out as we not really welcome as ration say, the masses isn't amazing of activities, which if we need to be prepared for that. so kind of like the faddle. ah, tanya h

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i didn't know if i did what marina has made a start with the bush that like tanya and her children, olga also comes from moscow. she was a successful business woman. they're producing high tech wheelchairs after she took part, an anti war protests. the authorities put pressure on her and her family. she gave everything up, but she doesn't want to stay in georgia unless you see the plaintiff. but there's a notice up here in the corridor saying that 20 percent of georgia is occupied and russians are therefore not welcome here. but i'm not ashamed of being russian. i didn't vote for this president and his government. i'm not responsible for their actions. and those with the bush is ready in time for lunch. tanya can imagine living for a long time in georgia with her children. ideally she'd work as a nutritionist for children m a, but as long as it me, i can help mothers say a to which would also give me a big list. you said it might not work out as we not really welcome as ration to say the massive isn't. why is it an event that he's looking? we need to be prepared for that. so have like a