and changing economy, things that have made a lot of the gop voters uncomfortable. we're in a very transformative time right now. brad appeared where social justice and issues of the past and reckoning with our history becoming extremely important to many americans and for a lot of people that's very scary it's like the conspiracies become a way to explain away some of that discomfort and again to kind of express the victimization that a lot of people feel it in a world that seems to be working against them. so republicans but their conspiracies are really answering these theories and saying we understand we're gonna feet this beast this conspiracy beast to keep you company, to keep you voting for us. it's a long term strategy and it's working it's definitely working. >> that's a scary thing, it is working to explain so much of what is happening to the republican party. kyle spencer, kelly whale, thank you so, much i greatly prettier time and insights. coming up, it was a messy week for both donald trump and president biden. but first, richard louis is here with the

you had gop lawmakers like j.d. vance and kari lake and paul gosar putting out pictures of themselves with guns, pretending that they could shoot it down, just to be clear, a bullet fired straight up in the air might reach up to 10,000 feet, but the moon was up 60,000 feet in the air. the party of jokers making a bigger joke about it from solves this past week. and let's not forget marjorie taylor greene and particular. the far-right gop congresswoman said the great donald trump would've never allowed china to fly a spy balloon over our country. right. well, he actually did. at least three times, in fact, according to the u.s. department of defense. so, i want to speak now to someone who's been racking up views online by documenting the idiocy of a lot of republicans in realtime. join me now is jason salvage from the comedy duo, the good liars. jason, thanks for coming back on the show. what did you make of all the republican responses to this chinese balloon? what was the most ridiculous when you saw? >> i loved it

it seems to be the gop leadership, they're trying to make maga happen. i think what is going on is the maga movement is very much aware that maybe donald trump isn't their leader. they are very worried that the voter, the maga voter, will not show up. if the maga voter doesn't show up, the gop is in real trouble in future elections. so they want to say maybe donald trump may not be the future maga leader, but we have all the other maga things you know and love. it's sort of like the drummer spinal tap always being replaced but the beat goes on. that's the way the republican leadership is looking at the movement. >> i've never heard a direct comparison from fetch, which they were trying to make happen so aggressively in mean girls and the entire maga movement. i think fetch while not a great piece of slang is probably less dangerous to democracy though. >> i agree, but it's a terrible slang phrase and i think regina george was quite right to make sure it never happened. >> you don't hear a lot of people defend regina george anymore. by the end of the film

this plays well for the gop base. the last thing, there are over 270 republicans in the house and the senate. of the 270 plus, how many are black women? zero. and there's a reason why. >> well, there is that. there is that. so then back to you on this one, what is all of this to do with governing? is it just more performative politics? or what do you see the endgame being here? >> to me, i'm sorry michael. >> i'm sorry, dean. >> to me, this is about making the base happy, michael. there is a reason why trump demonized her. there's a reason why councillor omar said a few weeks ago this is because she's muslim. she is seeing the trajectory of this gop that began in 2000 in the 22,000 2012 election, saying muslims what islamic law. in 2016 trump take it to new heights saying that we have too many muslims coming into this country, islam hates a grams in this country. mccarthy saw all of that, made the base happy. kevin mccarthy is not like way anyone. he's trying to kiss up to the maga base. this is why he did. it to me t

michael steele, i'm going to rely on your connections within the gop. what do party leaders and big donors make of this rapidly escalating tension between donald trump and anyone else who dares to step into the ring with him? >> well, they are not happy about it. because it doesn't bode well for what -- the reality of it is, donald trump will try to go to some people into the race. and try to go to some people out of the race. but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because they are still at the center of the. race and until some people are able to stand up to him and push him down and push him out, he will remain the center of this race. i mean, i just find it i'm using that for the two last years since the 2020 election leading up to this moment, everyone was talking about how much power and control donald trump still had at the gop. the man hadn't engaged the party. he hasn't really done anything except for announce he's going to run again. and as soon as a head pops up with this nikki haley or wrong desantis, it is like, oh my god, yes, no we h

plus, nikki haley wants the gop nomination for president. if she can't take on her former bass does she have what it takes to be commander in chief? also tonight, the long reach of the big lie. colorado secretary of state jim griswold is here to talk about a brand new threat from election deniers. later, it's blacker all freedom week. how all of us can empower americans fastest-growing new group of entrepreneurs. this is american voices. hello, i'm michael steele in for alicia menendez. we start a new hour of american voices, we have to talk about some new reporting that frankly sounds nuts. we must take it seriously. we know donald trump loves him some law and order. reporting in rolling stone says he wants to take things back to 17 and 92 if americans sent him back to the white house. in short, he wants to expand the federal death penalty according to three sources who spoke with rolling stone, quote, trump has talked about bringing by death by firing squad, by hanging, and according to two of the sources, possibly even by guillotine. he a

shoot the sky exactly utah senator mitt romney's bold prediction saying form, will most likely be 2024, gop nobody, and u.s. border patrol agents have seized enough, this fiscal year, to kill 100 million people. i'm brian and for elizabeth mcdonald and the evening edit stars right now. brian: of them do the show ring again the socks ending mostly down following the week of concerning inflation rates and now two weeks after the train derailment in these policy income ohio, the residence in the community say they are convinced that they are sing from essentially cancer-causing chemicals that were released in fox news is live in these posting, with the latest gar garrett. guest: we assign for the residents are hoping to be able to start to get some answers this next week, but health and human services is opening up several clinics in town, experts in toxicology and medicine to meet with these residents who continue to experience symptoms despite data suggesting that the air the water are safe and one of the frustrating things for folks here is that they feel that they should happen in a loss o

how do you assess the potential run in '24 for the gop? >> well,st it's interesting, because we're talking about nikki haley jumping in, and she's put a lot of attention on age and seeing herself as the next generation. but we are expecting other people to get in wore also saying they're another generation. you just mentioned governor sununu, bloomberg reported on friday that governor desantis in florida is really building an infrastructure around him to potentially announce a race with a campaign director potentially already organizing the finances and internally polling experts. so we are expecting more people to jump in. and as rich was saying, it's going to come town to, we think as well, what happens with the economy going forward. what will americans think about where their standing is in their own households and in their own lives and who can bring them the best road ahead. shannon: yeah. because the polling continue continually shows the american people are not seeing the seeds of hope for the economy. we all know, it's the economy

some gop makers are trying to cut off additional aid to ukraine, calling the presidents policies of failure. while former president trump traveled to the site of the toxic train derailment in ohio, as he runs for president a third time. claiming the disaster is somehow the white house's fault, as a new grain the situation on the ground and east palestine and it doesn't match disturbing told by right-wing media, once again this afternoon federal authorities from the epa of the federal organizations are working hand in hand with local officials trying to clean up the mess at the southern accountable for their accident. a lot to cover so let's get started. joining me now, congressman jimmy gomez democrat of california and member of the intel committee. congressman, let's get started. let's follow up a news conference this afternoon from east palestine, ohio. a return of the environment protection agency said the agency will be taking over waste disposal at the site from north fork sudden. this also comes after residents and workers near the site, where the train carrying hazardous chemicals de

this article that says the gop, essentially, you and ambassador haley give the gop cover on issues of race. scott's message is that racism is not an institutional or systemic problem, but an individual failing. that's precisely what conservatives want to hear so they can say, well, i'm not a racist, which means we don't have to do much of anything about racism. >> the only worry can think of is hogwash. i was in austin on friday having a conversation with several hundred goper, and we talked specifically about how the jim crow south impacted my family specifically. my grandfather made the choice to be stubborn in his faith, his faith in the future, faith in himself and faith in this nation. but we had to overcome those challenges. what i don't like is when we hear president biden talk about jim crow 2.0 when my family lived through jim crow. and that's when you had to figure out the number of jelly beans in a jar in order to cast a ballot. to suggest that the current georgia election laws are consistent with jim crow, it's just a lie. and so what we have to do is make sure that we arm

so what are the specific policy areas and recommendations you would have for the gop? >> immigration is very important. skills training is important. and one huge opportunities sitting out there is to talk about labor. organized labor the way we do it in this country is a disaster. we see that even with all of the noise over the past year those who are a part of the union keeps coming down and we have done survey showing we don't want to be part of unions as they are today which are these political enterprises with political social justice. there is a huge transfer for republicans to say we want workers to have representation to have power and speak up for themselves. that cannot work anything like big labor so let's just talk about how it can work out and give workers a voice for the workplace. steve: what you are doing is incredibly important. much more to come including larry elder on a possible 2024 presidential run and also the why do vitamins and supplements cost so much more now? other companies are charging you more and more for less and less. and we hate that!

so what are the specific policy areas and recommendations you would have for the gop? >> immigration is very important. skills training is important. and one huge opportunities sitting out there is to talk about labor. organized labor the way we do it in this country is a disaster. we see that even with all of the noise over the past year those who are a part of the union keeps coming down and we have done survey showing we don't want to be part of unions as they are today which are these political enterprises with political social justice. there is a huge transfer for republicans to say we want workers to have representation to have power and speak up for themselves. that cannot work anything like big labor so let's just talk about how it can work out and give workers a voice for the workplace. steve: what you are doing is incredibly important. much more to come including larry elder on a possible 2024 presidential run and also the new school choice plan. (jennifer) the reason why golo customers have such long term success is because the golo plan takes a holistic app

so what are the specific policy areas and recommendations you would have for the gop? >> immigration is very important. skills training is important. and one huge opportunities sitting out there is to talk about labor. organized labor the way we do it in this country is a disaster. we see that even with all of the noise over the past year those who are a part of the union keeps coming down and we have done survey showing we don't want to be part of unions as they are today which are these political enterprises with political social justice. there is a huge transfer for republicans to say we want workers to have representation to have power and speak up for themselves. that cannot work anything like big labor so let's just talk about how it can work out and give workers a voice for the workplace. steve: what you are doing is incredibly important. much more to come including larry elder on a possible 2024 presidential run and also the all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work, helping them achieve financial freedom. w

that amounts to a platform in the gop these days. josh marshall, -- >> that will certainly be the central platform i think, in the 2024 gop platform. >> hot tip for 2024. founder and editor in chief with talking points, it's great to have you on the show. thank you very time tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> when we come back, we will talk about what the fbi is doing at president biden's vacation home today, and what they did find, and what they did not find. plus, house democrats are picking up their efforts for the republicans knew subcommittee on the so-called weaponization of the federal government. two of their picks were heavy hitters for each of the trump impeachment proceedings. we will talk to one of them, coming up next. with intelligent alerts when a person or familiar face is detected. sam. sophie's not here tonight. so you have a home with no worries. brought to you by adt. my asthma felt anything but normal. ♪ ♪ it was time for a nunormal with nucala. nucala is a once-monthly add-on treatment for severe eosino

this article that says the gop essentially un ambassador haley give gop cover on message of grace. rates is not assisted systemic problem but an individual failing that's precisely what conservatives want to hear so they can say well i'm not a racist which means we don't hav to do much of anything about racism. >> the only word i can think of is hogwash, the fact of the matter was austin on friday having a conversation with several hundred gop years and w talked specifically about how the jim crow south impacted my family specifically. my grandfather made the choice to be stubborn in his faith, hi faith and the future, faith in himself and faith in this nation . but we had to overcome those challenges. what i don't like is when we hear president biden talk about jim crow 2.0 but my family live through jim crow and that's whe you had to figure out the numbe of jellybeans in the jar in order to cast a ballot to suggest that the current georgi election laws are consistently jim crow is just a live. what we have to do is make sure that we arm our people today with the challenges of tod

that amounts to a platform in the gop these days. josh marshall, -- >> that will certainly be the central platform i think, in the 2024 gop platform. >> hot tip for 2024. founder and editor in chief with talking points, it's great to have you on the show. thank you very time tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> when we come back, we will talk about what the fbi is doing at president biden's vacation home today, and what they did find, and what they did not find. plus, house democrats are picking up their efforts for the republicans knew subcommittee on the so-called weaponization of the federal government. two of their picks were heavy hitters for each of the trump impeachment proceedings. we will talk to one of them, coming up next. love? introducing wireless bras from knix. the ultimate in comfort and support, in sizes up to an h-cup. visit knix.com to find a wireless bra you'll love. ♪ ♪ ♪ cargurus. shop.buy.sell.online. overactive bladder, or oab, can change your world. like going hiking, just to hike to the bathroom. re

why gop leaders say it's not a revenge move. >>> well, good morning, and good to be with you. i'm anne-marie green. as texas and other parts of the

president, if you're not the nominee, will you support whoever the gop nominee is? >> it would depend. i would give you the same answer i gave in 2016 during the debate, the first question i was asked. i was asked two rather interesting questions. it would have to depend on who the nominee was. >> so, he remembers that. that was one of the versions of the answer he gave. he's clashing with the party chair he picked though, who just to show that one part again, says the loyalty pledge will be on the table. >> i expect a pledge will be part of it. it was part of 2016. i think it's kind of a no-brainer, right? >> now, republican insiders say it's a no-brainer because their party's purpose is to organize members to select nominees and unite to win nominations. a little poli-sci 101. but trump has disdain for team work or two-way loyalty. perhaps the chairwoman should just realize who she's dealing with. kendrick lamar discussed this a while back saying, tell me who you loyal to. is it money, big fame, chillen, or only the power in your name? as k dog explained that appr

she has to tow the gop line. i think we are going to see a campaign that is replete live, republican athens. we have already seen this in her opening bid. racism, homophobia, and the and hire ignorance of the reality of america's past, and her unwillingness to grapple with that. i don't really think we are going to see much interesting or unique in her campaign, at all. i think she is also opening the door for other candidates, which would be precisely what donald wants. he knows the bigger the field the better off he is. >> mary, the dominion voting systems 1.6 million dollar lawsuit against fox news for defamation has revealed that even marquee hosts like tucker carlsen and laura ingraham and fox news did not actually believe donald's big lie. do you think fox news viewers, the ones who are voting for donald trump, do you think they're ready to have the scales fall from their eyes finally? >> no. quite honestly, katie, i don't know that they are ever going to hear about what is actually going on with the domini

you had gop lawmakers like j. d. vance and kari lake and paul gosar putting out pictures of themselves with guns, pretending that they could shoot it down, just to be clear, a bullet fired straight up in the air might reach up to 10,000 feet, but the moon was up 60,000 feet in the air. the party of jokers making a bigger joke about it from solves this past week. and let's not forget marjorie taylor greene and particular. the far-right gop congresswoman said the great donald trump would've never allowed china to fly a spy balloon over our country. right. well, he actually did. at least three times, in fact, according to the u.s. department of defense. so, i want to speak now to someone who's been racking up views online by documenting the idiocy of a lot of republicans in realtime. join me now is jason salvage from the comedy duo, the good liars. jason, thanks for coming back on the show. what did you make of all the republican responses to this chinese balloon? what was the most ridiculous when you saw? >> i loved it

southern border in arizona with freshman gop lawmakers. the speaker, who has been critical of the line and administration border policy, will get a tour from u.s. customs and border protection. watch live coverage here on c-span at 4:45 p.m. eastern time. you can also watch on c-span.org and our free video app, c-span now. ♪ >> all this week, beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern, c-span is featuring encore presentations of q and a, our hour-long interview programs with nonfiction writers, journalists and more. tonight, northeastern university's margaret burnham shares her book which examines the racial violence experienced by blacks in the south and the jim crow era legal system that supported it. tonight at 7:00 eastern on c-span's q and a. you can listen to q&a and all of our podcasts on our free c-span now app. >> president biden gave an update on the three unmanned aerial objects that were shot down over the weekend by the u.s. military. pres. biden: good afternoon. last week, in the immediate aftermath of the incursion by china's high-alt

the inevitable and point of the modern-day gop? what do you attribute it to? >> i think it's important to point out that i think it is still in mainstream position that republican parties choose to support ukraine. i was just at the munich security conference, and there are a lot of republicans, both senators and house members from the republican side of the aisle who were there pledging their support. some of them are pretty high making members, trying to die on this hill because that reminded them of the struggle of world war ii. that it was such a clean cut battle, good versus evil. as for what is happening on the far-right wing of the party, i think it's got several explanations. one is the kind of -- as american as apple pie isolationism which runs strong in american politics from the very beginning. part of it is trump's embrace of russia, and the fact that russia in the administration has been seen more as a friend. because russia tried to help them in the election, indefinitely put their thumb on the scale during the 2016 presidential election. putin a

that's exactly why the far-right members of the gop wanted that leverage. so, some of the 21 measures who initially voted against mccarthy as speaker have already been appointed to plump positions. for example, conspiracy theories, andy biggs, lauren boebert, paul gosar, and anna paulina luna, and scott perry, the chairman of the far-right freedom caucus, also a subject of the january 6th investigations, have all been appointed to the oversight committee! it's considered one of the most powerful panels in the house. is expected to launch numerous investigations into the biden administration over the next two years. meanwhile, this process -- it's also allowed republicans to exact political revenge on democrats for previously marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar from their committee assignments after they each made threatening posts against some of their democratic colleagues. now, last, week speaker mccarthy blocked representatives adam schiff and aaron swalwell from returning to their posts on the house intelligence committee. schiff and swalwell are outs

where is the gop now? are they more in that camp. you heard mitt romney say this week he thinks former president trump is likely to win the republican nomination. >> look, i think we're a far cry from that and speaking with rational republicans and even more importantly, key gop donors, they're ready to turn the page and looking at other candidates, nikki haley, tim scott, desantis, youngkin, several people testing the waters going out to early states and getting the support and endorsement from big donors and money talks and they're gravitating toward a message of positive vision for the future. they're done with election deniers and conspiracy theorists as we've seen in previous elections. here is the thing. >> not in michigan, clearly. >> but -- >> right. >> social evangelicals which are a key voting block for donald trump and republicans in general. they were supportive of trurmp' endorsement and ready to turn the page because too far to the right is good for the primary but a losing formula for an election. >> i want a fox news

its first major gop challenger, former south carolina governor nikki haley, who served as u.n. ambassador under mr. trump, announcing she is running how the former president is responding >>> the remarkable a 65-year-old found alive after more than 200 hours beneath the rubble as the earthquake toll nears 40,000 >>> dramatic testimony in the alex murdaugh trial. what his slain wife's sister revealed about her conversation with murdaugh after the murders. >>> and the perfect gift for your valentine. how to get a love song personalized >> announcer: this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt >>> good evening there has been another -- sadly we can all finish the sentence there has been another mass shooting. another place struggling to comprehend the kind of horror that happened elsewhere until it

new reporting about comments made by minority leader mccarthy about nancy pelosi during a tennessee gop dinner last night. some pretty shocking audio that we're getting right now. listen to this >> nancy pelosi hand me that gavel. [ cheers and applause it will be hard not to hit her with it. i want you to watch nancy pelosi hand me that gavel [ cheers and applause and i promise you this, i won't bang her with it, but i'll bang the end to the socialism, and yes to america >> seth: are you -- sure you didn't bang yourself with it [ laughter ] "i'll bang the end to the socialism and yes to america." i can't believe that soaring message didn't resonate. [ light laughter ] he has the same broken syntax as a norwegian tourist looking for the m&ms store "can you say 'where is the store of the chocolate circles who mouth melt without doing the same to one's hands?'" [ laughter ] so mccarthy and the gop were full of bravado about how they would seize the gavel in a show of republican power and confront joe biden and the democrats. instead we got this split screen -- feuding republicans in utter

plus, the gop culture wars, attacking diversity in the curriculum. professors tommy about the cost of that. and real solutions for police reform. i'll talk to a colorado long make her about what her state has done. and, if it could be a model for the nation. this is american voices. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we begin with a historic moment for the president on tuesday. president biden plans to frame his state of the union address by highlighting his administration's achievements during his first two years in office. the speech may also serve as a preview of what a possible 2024 reelection bid might look like. a person close to the white house tells nbc news biden will focus on his plans to reduce prescription drug costs and upgrade the nation's aging infrastructure. once the speech is over, biden's cabinet will take their message on the road, touting their accomplishments throughout the nation. this all comes as, after a red hot report, shows the u.s. added half 1 million jobs in january. the nation's unemployment rate also fell to 3.4%, the lowest rate in 54 y

and as you can well imagine, gop lawmakers were slamming twitter today. marjorie taylor green saying to the executives, you discuss me. nancy macey saying, "thank god for elon musk," who in the hell do you think you are. here is aoc's take. >> we could be talking about abortion rights and civil rights and voting rights, but instead we are talking about hunter biden's half fake laptop story. this is an embarrassment >> half fake? we'll see about that. also, tonight on pbs, president keenly aware of the expansive reach of gop lawmakers now that they controlled the house, said the public was not going to be paying much attention to any gop investigation of his family. that's either trace, you can argue a case of extreme confidence or maybe just whistling past the graveyard. we'll see. >> thank you, trace. what the pentagon says is part of a larger surveillance program with a mass and size and scope that spans the globe. this is as the anywayty cons to work around the clock to recover the rest of the down air ship down south carolina. >>> the illegal immigran

so where is the gop now? are they now in that camp? you heard mitt romney also say this week that former president trump is likely to win the nomination. >> speaking with rational republicans and even more importantly, key gop donors, they're ready to take the page and whether it's nikki haley or tim scott, desantis, junkin and several people testing the waters and they're getting the support and endorsement from big donors and money talks and they're gravitating toward a message of a positive vision with the future and they're done with election deniers as we've seen in previous elections and here's the thing. not in michigan, clearly. >> right. >> even evangelicals which are a key voting bloc for donald trump and republicans in general. they were supportive of trump's endorsement of scalia-like justices. they're ready to turn the page because they realize too far to the right is good for a primary, but is a losing formula for the general election. >> i want to get the fox news bit in here before they go because it all ties into this,

now, those lies live on a new generation of gop stars. plus, the most important election you've never heard of. wisconsin attorney general josh -- joins me to discuss the critical state supreme court race, and why it will affect all of us. and, abortion on the line yet again. a new ruling this week could

is it just isolationism is an inevitable end point of the modern day gop? what do you attribute it to? >> i think it's important to point out that i think it's still a mainstream position in the republican party to support ukraine, and i was jury service at the munich security conference and there were a lot of republicans both senators and house members from the republican side of the aisle pledging their support, some house ranking members pledging to die on this hill because it reminded them of the struggle of world war ii because it was just a clean cut battle of good versus evil. as for what's happening on the far right wing of the party i think it has several explanations. one is kind of as america is apple pie isolationism that runs strong in american politics from the beginning of our republic. part of it is trump's embrace of russia and the fact that russia during his administration was seen more of a friend in part because russia tried to help him win the election and definitely put their thumb on the scale during the 2016 presidential election. p

again, in particular, the one involving new jersey gop council member as well. the very latest for you tonight.er, they hav please do not have a suspectmine and jump alex murdaugh. they have yet to determine a motive in either shooting.he and despite the similarities, they don't believe they are related yet. say yet because i and i say yet because it seems a strange when you think aboutt all the math, you put it all gop together. what are the odds that two council members, both from a the gop in new jersey, of all places, are shot dead a week apart from kevin ?ic, th >>an it's horrific. thank you. yeah, total amount of intelligence gathering to look at the totality from western intelligence to go put together by the east so i can but i kouroussa through busway is is could i lose one of your losses on target on the killer sideway as one of your losses on the international military busway? >> late last night, he told judy woodruff it wasn't a big deal . and tonight he tells telemundoac it's not a majorh, c breach .e p we'll consider the disturbingy a details about

it is caused by the gop. democrats are trying to bring people together and get things accomplished without calling them names. i think joe biden is a good example of that. thank you. host: onto a republican line, bessemer city, north carolina. mike. caller: yes. it was a joke. he didn't talk about the main things that are affecting this country like the southern border. 5 million illegals crossed the border just under his watch for two years. imagine what it will be in four years. it is talking about assault weapons and gun violence, but it does talk about the crime with thugs and ammo that were doing the smash and grabs in broad daylight killings of people. assaults on people. they won't talk about republicans. the democrats are driving with blinders on. there is no crisis of the border. there is no crisis. these are all humanity crisis. these are people, they don't want to talk about the god away and it will bite this country in the rear end because these people, they don't want to get caught. we will have

trump's position poses the gop first test, let's see who passes. liberal says, david brooks says desantis will turn off the nonpopulus parts of his party. so we have a number of gop potential candidates very clear about where they stand on ukraine. can he, can desantis afford to stay vague? >> i think at this point he can. he's still vague whether he's getting into the race. we feel an infrastructure, we know a lot of the pacts are not directly aligned with him say we are putting the infrastructure together in case you decide to jump in, but i think the hints on big issues are certainly a look at where he'll be on some of the issues and i think it's an interesting one. we know here in washington there is a grumbling. some is public, about where we go with this ukraine situation and if we are going to have more funding, does the president come out and make a clear case for what the end point is. so i think candidates, gop and other democrats get in, i think that they are all going to have to articulate where they are on this. as you say, it lands in

her first campaign event tomorrow in south carolina, she'll be walking the political tightrope every gop challenger will face carving out support among new republican voters without alienating the trump base. in washington, alice barr, nbc news. >> former vice president mike pens is expected to fight a subpoena from the january 6th special counsel. pence was subpoenaed last week after months of negotiations by his legal team. people familiar with pence's plans says he'll use his former role in the government to fight it. it's unclear if that strategy will help him avoid testifying before a grand jury. pence previously cooperated with investigators regarding classified documents found in is indiana home. he's expected to run for president in 2024 and taking a hard line stance against the justice department could be useful from the republican primary. >>> a new york appeals court upheld a fine against former president trump. in may a judge imposed it on him for refusing to turn over financial documents. the fine was $10,000 a day until he gave those documents to the courts. it eventually t

in the 2024 gop platform. >> hot tip for 2024. founder and editor-in-chief of talk points memo, it's great to have you on the show. thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks for having me. when we come back we'll talk about what the fbi was doing at president biden's vacation home today and what they did find and what they did not find. >>> plus house democrats pick their members for the republicans new subcommittee on the so-called weaponization of the federal government. and two of their picks were heavy hitters for each of the trump impeachment proceedings. i'll talk to one of them coming up next. t proceedings. i'll talk to one of them coming up next. a must in your medicine cabinet! less sick days! cold coming on? zicam is the number one cold shortening brand! highly recommend it! zifans love zicam's unique zinc formula. it shortens colds! zicam. zinc that cold! my asthma felt anything but normal. a blood test helped show my asthma is driven by eosinophils, which nucala helps reduce. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection fo

now, they could be rivals for the gop 2024 nomination. to this current investigation and any possibility of a presidential campaign for either of them? >> well, there's a lot to be seen. right? that depends on what happens here. obviously, for president trump, ultimately indicted some fashion. some damning discovery for this process that becomes public. that's one thing. you know, at this rate, we don't know. it's been more than two years since january 6th. we don't have a good sense of where [inaudible] jack smith are going to take this. ultimately, of course, jack smith as special counsel will be [inaudible] merrick garland to make the final decision, if there's a recommendation along those lines. as for pence, the problem for pence has always been, even before this, that he doesn't have a clear lane to running for president. if you are pro trump, you don't like. and there are people calling to hang mike pence on january 6th. if you're anti trump, you don't like him, because he's trying too hard. even now, to stick close to trump even a

he will advance in the gop primaries. and once he starts gaining delegates, he will start to look at it again. that's all you want in 2015. i can see without republicans trying to target him. without trying to -- tell east separate themselves in a way that make a distinct. i can see trump going for a repeat of that. i would not be surprised. we saw it in 2020. he tried to repeat in 2016 campaign. no reason he wouldn't do it again in 2024. >> i was gonna say. part of the problem with 2016 was every republican wanted to attack each other but not trump. they were all vying to be the last person standing and then none of them were left standing. michelle, i want to switch to the democratic side of the aisle here. you wrote an essay for the times called biden's a great president. he should not run again. provocative headline but a compelling case you made recent polls show you are not alone, actually and thinking this. why do you think democrats are turning away from biden? to a person, that they would all say he succeeded exp

it's an inevitable and point of the modern-day gop? what do you attribute it to? >> i think it's important to point out that i think it's still a mainstream position in the republican party to support ukraine. i was just at the munich security conference. and there were a lot of -- and house numbers members from the house republican side of the aisle, they are pledging their support, some of them pretty high-ranking members pledging to, quote, die on this hill because it reminded them of the struggle of world war ii. that it was such a clean cut battle, good versus evil. as for what is happening on the far-right wing of the party, i think it has several explanations. one is the kind of -- american as apple pie isolationism which runs strong in american politics from the very beginning. of our republic -- part of it is trump's embrace of russia, and the fact that or should during the administration was seen more as a friend, in part because russia tried to help him win the election, and definitely put the thumb on the scale during the 2016 presidential election. pu

things are not so contentious with the witnesses, this the is first gop herring in the house. we've seen a lot of tense moments between republicans and democrat. >> just a few days ago he said the border is not open. would you agree with that? >> no. >> they tell us the reason they're here is because president biden and welcoming sign. >> the republican majority seems interested only in showboating. they continuously talk about a so-called biden border crisis even though this administration kept in place numerous policies from the trump administration. >> reporter: we're expecting another hearing on the border next tuesday. house oversight chairman james comer will hold that hearing. he will bring in border agents to testify. we're expecting congressman andy biggs to introduce articles of impeachment against homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. that is set to happen sometime this afternoon. he would be the second republican to do so this year, neil. no word yet though on whether or not the gop conference will actually take a vote on it. neil? neil: thank you, ashiah

also the gop pushback as president biden is calling on a divided congress to pass several key issues. >>> tragedy and triumph in a quake zone. rescue efforts continue and stories from survival. >>> we start this afternoon, broken glass covering yet another street. we are trying to get the theon bay st, blocks from ghiradelli square. we found at least 12 cars with broken windows. whoever did this went down the line busting out the passenger windows. property crime is an ongoing problem. there was something stolen from them sometime during the last five years. the photographers have the threat of being robbed has them on edge. >> possibly next year, i want to have that many. that is coming from the chronicles next program. it is a bit of a decrease when the city was ranked number one in the country for property crime. the police department said last year more than 20,000 break-ins were reported. back to the smash and grabs, we have reached out to police and >> aba mobeot ba hapated es, the pd pulled up and said do not park here, your window will be smashed. something has to give. we don

union and gop in california. next, our media talk why the reparations hearing had to be delayed. plan has been delayed. according -- the flight issues getting back from vacation in columbia. it has been nearly two years in the making and is now the late area more on the story thank you for coming on the show. for viewers who had not been following the story, explain what the plan was what was supposed to happen today. >> the city reparations task force after a resolution by a supervisor authored in early 2020. over the last two years, the committee has been meeting to get ready for the the scheduled to happen on tuesday. >> in the plan? >> issue about $5 million lump sum payments to eligible residents in san francisco. economically, i have been told that is not feasible and people have latched on to this one item that lays out a history of how the community has been displaced , forced through racist housing policies as a result of redevelopment and traces the harm that has been done when it comes to incarceration

house the gop already has a razor-thin majority to begin. and with a needs every vote that he can get. what does this or how does this impact him at all. if it does. >> this is going to be much more complicated for kevin mccarthy. because there are certain republicans that have been elected this congress. who are sitting in districts where they are really purple districts. and they are beholden to the people that sent them to congress. so he is going to have to bring that caucus along to some of the most extreme pieces of legislation. and i have heard from several republican members. one in pennsylvania, one in south carolina. that they are opposed to the extreme position on taking away a woman's right to choose. they are also completely opposed to this, what we were just discussing. to defunding the war in ukraine. they need to focus on issues that are going to resonate in their district. so now, all we need for democrats and the caucus is those five republicans. who will vote with democrats, to be able to do the work for the american peopl

and house gop and trump, they're ready to countermessage. plus, now this, general james mattis, he is discuss disputing and contradicting the white house leak about chinese spy balloons under trump. and get the, so does biden's nsa, jake sullivan. with us tonight, former arkansas governor asa hutchen southern, former omb director mick mulvaney. the washington examiner's byron york, a new york city schoolteacher fired for not getting vaccinated and ford o'connell. an fbi whistleblower testifies behind closed doors on how the doj and fbi are politicized. we're on it. and more reports about hunter biden, foreign money and the president's very secretive think tanks. and vaccine mandates are vanishing nationwide, but who is going to the help the thousands fired and bullied over that? plus, the new nationwide push to stop the white house getting at your are retirement savings for their political agendas. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ muck. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: welcome to the show. check your stocks, higher in chop

biden shook new house speaker kevin mccarthy's hand and challenged the gop to work with him. the people sent us a clear message. fighting for the sake of fighting. power for the sake of power conflict for the second conflict gets us nowhere republicans to help him finish the job when it comes to major issues like the economy and new social programs, he tried to reassure weary americans 41% who in a new poll say they're worse off economically since he took office, but we have more to do. but here at home inflation is coming down. here at home gas prices down a dollar 50 from their peak food. inflation is coming down. not fast enough. he touted accomplishments like the bipartisan infrastructure law, the chips act and the inflation reduction act. the speech comes amid a standoff over the debt ceiling. republicans boot and called him a liar when he suggested they wanted to cut social security and medicare, as we all apparently agree. so security. medicare is off off the books now. alright script a handful of times to go toe to toe with republicans out of control, inflation and vi

now, those lies live on a new generation of gop stars. plus, the most important election you've never heard of. wisconsin attorney general josh -- joins me to discuss the critical state supreme court race, and why it will affect all of us. and, abortion on the line yet again. a new ruling this week could throw access even greater debt. we can explain all of that and more. i'm ayman, let's get started. m ayman, let's get started >> election denialism and conspiracies have a stranglehold on republicans. sitting politicians, party activists, everyday registered republicans. the idea that elections, multiple elections, plural here, have been stolen and that it's only republican elections that have been stolen is now common wisdom from many corners of the gop. just last night, the michigan republican party elected christina karamo as their new chair. here's a quick refresher for you. she's a 2020 election denier. he lost her race for secretary of state by 14 points in last year's midterms. she has refused to concede her race, making countless

these are forums including conforming to the gop agenda. as the associated press reported this week, desantis, quote, announced plans to block same colleges from having programs on diversity, equity and inclusion. and critical race theory. in his latest step on to the front lines of the nations culture wars. this comes after florida rejected a navy course on african american studies and high schools. following the move, the college board revised ap guidelines. removing the works of several black authors deemed problematic by florida officials. the college board, however rejects any notion that they caved to political pressure. but what is the cost of whitewashing this final portion of american history? let's ask professor of history at nyu ruth bin yacht. she is author of strongmen, mussolini to the present. professor, thank you for joining us. look, ron desantis is there in florida. you know, this looks like it could be addressed rehearsal for the 2024 republican primary for president. there may be a day when more americans have to contend