david: how much does it cost before we get the giant magellan telescope? walter: we are estimating a little over $2 billion. david: where is that money coming from? walter: half is coming from private sources, university of chicago being one of 11 partners who put up about half. and the federal government is now negotiating with the national science foundation to come up with the other half. david: i've often thought the way you could raise money for the giant magellan telescope is to take away the name magellan because he did not put up any money for it and let somebody very wealthy, like elon musk or bill gates or somebody say, we will name it after them and put up a billion dollars. you ever thought of that? walter: we think of that every day. [laughs] i do, yes. you have a billionaire that you would like? david: maybe not a multibillionaire but there might be someone out there. if you name somebody. it's a big naming opportunity. walter: i am laughing, but we do. we have naming opportunities all the way from a mirror, an instrument that will look for e

david: how much does it cost before we get the giant magellan telescope? walter: we are estimating a little over $2 billion. david: where is that money coming from? coming from? dollars walter: half is coming from private sources, university of chicago being one of 11 partners who put up about half. and the federal government is now negotiating with the national science foundation to showing national science foundation to come up with the other half. david: i've often thought the way you could raise money for the giant magellan telescope is to take away the name magellan because he did not put up any money for it and let somebody very wealthy, like elon musk or bill gates or somebody say, we will name it after them and put up a billion dollars. you ever thought of that? walter: we think of that every day. [laughs] i do, yes. you have a billionaire that you would like? david: maybe not a multibillionaire but there might be someone out there. if you name somebody. it's a big naming opportunity. walter: i am laughing, but we do. we have naming opportunities a

david: how much does it cost before we get the giant magellan telescope? walter: we are estimating a little over $2 billion. david: where is that money coming from? walter: half is coming from private sources, university of chicago being one of 11 partners who put up about half. and negotiating with the -- and the federal government is now negotiating with the national science foundation to come up with the other half. david: i've often thought the way you could raise money for the telescope is to take away the name magellan because he did not put up any money for it and let somebody very wealthy, like elon musk or bill gates or somebody say, we will name it after them and put up a billion dollars. you ever thought of that? walter: we think of that every day. [laughs] you have a billionaire that you would like? david: maybe not a multibillionaire but there might be someone out there. it's a big naming opportunity. walter: we have naming opportunities all the way from a mirror, an instrument that will look for exoplanets for $10 million. the mirror is going

it you're getting people to fund the giant magellan telescope. why do we need it since we have the web telescope? how much better is the giant magellan going to be? walter: four times better. david: four times better. walter: four times better resolution, which means the pictures will be sharper. but the science, the way it will work, you are seeing these pictures is very sharp. but they are identifying parts of galaxies in space almost back to the beginning of the universe that people have not seen. it cannot focus more sharply as we would like to be able to identify objects. so, the webb will identify a portion of space. the gmt, the giant magellan telescope, can in effect zoom in on that space, have a finer resolution, look at it more clearly. in addition to that, we will have a set of instruments which can collect that light, analyze it, and the sea, for example, -- and see, for example, does it contain signs of oxygen or water? so they will be complementary. david: how much does it cost before we get the giant magellan telescope? walter: we

we also discussed some regional issues the magellan and i. e, as well as some bilateral issues and up, up can be done and see what kind of a so regarding, allow turnkey. if it'll, let me point out that our countries have longstanding historical ties. america, robert island feel much less good. here we're near michaela to look for these ties, go a long way back, have positive interaction in security workers, military corporation and trade. and we know rush has positive role the positive role that played by rushes oil companies enough regarding investments and continued initiatives in oil projects in iraq, law, coil, method, gospel was sharing among them. i would like to know companies such as lu coil got from and others that i went out here to tell mom how the how cotton molly, or whom the rocky government button is grateful and we're finding we're finding ways to pay off our old standing debts to these companies and this has been discussed during the negotiations. and of course, we keep in mind the national interest and the concerns voice by

for magellan m p told us that the country's establishment isn't interested in letting the truth out as it would expose the american involvement german, me just controlled by the same forces like german government, this, the american state. so all the pricing on earth, pressing on drama, media, pressing one german government, not to be real. the truth is for me the last prove that the story is true. when i was n p, a wrote a book about steering germany from behind from to the united states, not only by us here also why of the organization, slight atlantic bridge council for relations, all the stuff. and in my personal view, mr. shoals, the whole government are as much in the iron grip, visa, american organizations, that is why they don't really reveal anything. that is why they work against german interest. that is why they will not speak out never. and that is why i call i call them. i accuse them of treatment from any official or official name. remember, you will never hear anything about the revelation what someone who has done he's if he's relations prove true, true. this can be the